---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/23/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:31 AM - Re: Importing a Canadian Amateur Built aircraft into the US (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 2. 05:18 PM - N519PJ Weigh -In (Deems Davis) 3. 05:35 PM - Re: N519PJ Weigh -In (David Maib) 4. 05:36 PM - Re: N519PJ Weigh -In (Robin Marks) 5. 05:37 PM - Re: N519PJ Weigh -In (Jeff Carpenter) 6. 05:47 PM - Re: N519PJ Weigh -In (dmaib@mac.com) 7. 05:47 PM - Re: N519PJ Weigh -In (Rick Sked) 8. 06:09 PM - Re: Importing a Canadian Amateur Built aircraft into the US (DejaVu) 9. 06:13 PM - Re: N519PJ Weigh -In (David McNeill) 10. 06:32 PM - Re: N519PJ Weigh -In (Tim Olson) 11. 07:13 PM - Re: N519PJ Weigh -In (Kelly McMullen) 12. 07:34 PM - Re: GRT Serial Connections (Sheldon Olesen) 13. 07:42 PM - Re: N519PJ Weigh -In (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 14. 07:57 PM - OT - The hydraulic ram on my HF engine hoist failed (Bill Mauledriver Watson) 15. 10:43 PM - Finish and Paint questions ?? (AirMike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:51 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Importing a Canadian Amateur Built aircraft into the US Hmm, haven't heard that before. Jesse might be a good resource on navigati ng the requirements of importing an amateur built aircraft from another cou ntry. Michael From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Edwin L (Ted) French Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:48 PM Subject: RV10-List: Importing a Canadian Amateur Built aircraft into the US It has been my understanding that a amateur built aircraft imported into t he US from Canada had to have a minimum of 100 hours on it before it would be considered elegible to be brought in. I spent a good part of my afternoo n trying to find something on the various web sites that might confirm this and came up with a blank. Does anyone on the list know if this is a requirement and if so, where I mi ght find it on the web. e.g.: FAA site, etc Thanks Do Not Archive Ted French C-FXCS RV-10 Flying http://www.matronicp; the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http: //forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.c om/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c========== ====== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:59 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In Well today, I got up enough courage to put in12 qts if mineral oil and push N519PJ up on the scales. I figured with the 'mods' that she might be a bit on the portly side, sort of expected something in the neighborhood of 1700lbs. The only thing she lacks is some carpet. Well, the number turned out to be 1772 ! A bit more than I was expecting, but I remembered that we had 40 + lbs of air in each tire, ....... so I let out 15 lbs out of each tire, so she should only weigh 1737 now. (that makes me feel slightly better), I'm not sure how many lbs I have in the O2 tank, but when I get a guage on it, I figure there should be 1000lbs or more, so I'll just bleed off enough to get her down to her fighting weight. Deems #406 it's all done, ......gonna light the fire soon. http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:44 PM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In Deems, I feel somewhat relieved that my 1769 lbs. (WITH carpet) has been bested! However, if your 1772 is with paint, I may still own the most portly 540 powered -10. I have not weighed mine since paint, but the paint shop told me that they estimated 25-30 lbs. Best regards, David Maib 40559 On Feb 23, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Deems Davis wrote: Well today, I got up enough courage to put in12 qts if mineral oil and push N519PJ up on the scales. I figured with the 'mods' that she might be a bit on the portly side, sort of expected something in the neighborhood of 1700lbs. The only thing she lacks is some carpet. Well, the number turned out to be 1772 ! A bit more than I was expecting, but I remembered that we had 40 + lbs of air in each tire, ....... so I let out 15 lbs out of each tire, so she should only weigh 1737 now. (that makes me feel slightly better), I'm not sure how many lbs I have in the O2 tank, but when I get a guage on it, I figure there should be 1000lbs or more, so I'll just bleed off enough to get her down to her fighting weight. Deems #406 it's all done, ......gonna light the fire soon. http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:50 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In From: "Robin Marks" Deems, You can consider "9PJ" to have one of the largest payloads of any 3 place RV built to date. BTW I am right there with you ~1700# before paint, interior. Looking forward to your start. That engine/exhaust combination is quite motivating. Robin Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:15 PM Subject: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In Well today, I got up enough courage to put in12 qts if mineral oil and push N519PJ up on the scales. I figured with the 'mods' that she might be a bit on the portly side, sort of expected something in the neighborhood of 1700lbs. The only thing she lacks is some carpet. Well, the number turned out to be 1772 ! A bit more than I was expecting, but I remembered that we had 40 + lbs of air in each tire, ....... so I let out 15 lbs out of each tire, so she should only weigh 1737 now. (that makes me feel slightly better), I'm not sure how many lbs I have in the O2 tank, but when I get a guage on it, I figure there should be 1000lbs or more, so I'll just bleed off enough to get her down to her fighting weight. Deems #406 it's all done, ......gonna light the fire soon. http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:58 PM PST US From: Jeff Carpenter Subject: Re: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In Can you take any weight out of the pilot? On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Deems Davis wrote: > > Well today, I got up enough courage to put in12 qts if mineral oil > and push N519PJ up on the scales. I figured with the 'mods' that > she might be a bit on the portly side, sort of expected something > in the neighborhood of 1700lbs. The only thing she lacks is some > carpet. Well, the number turned out to be 1772 ! A bit more than I > was expecting, but I remembered that we had 40 + lbs of air in each > tire, ....... so I let out 15 lbs out of each tire, so she should > only weigh 1737 now. (that makes me feel slightly better), I'm not > sure how many lbs I have in the O2 tank, but when I get a guage on > it, I figure there should be 1000lbs or more, so I'll just bleed > off enough to get her down to her fighting weight. > > > Deems #406 > it's all done, ......gonna light the fire soon. > http://deemsrv10.com/ > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:18 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: N519PJ Weigh -In From: "dmaib@mac.com" [Wink] I wish I could take some weight out of this pilot! do not archive -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231726#231726 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:34 PM PST US From: Rick Sked Subject: Re: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In That's cruel....I say Deems and I come over and take some weight outta you!!! :) Rick S. 40185 Paint in the works.. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Carpenter" Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:37:27 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In Can you take any weight out of the pilot? On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Deems Davis wrote: > > Well today, I got up enough courage to put in12 qts if mineral oil > and push N519PJ up on the scales. I figured with the 'mods' that > she might be a bit on the portly side, sort of expected something > in the neighborhood of 1700lbs. The only thing she lacks is some > carpet. Well, the number turned out to be 1772 ! A bit more than I > was expecting, but I remembered that we had 40 + lbs of air in each > tire, ....... so I let out 15 lbs out of each tire, so she should > only weigh 1737 now. (that makes me feel slightly better), I'm not > sure how many lbs I have in the O2 tank, but when I get a guage on > it, I figure there should be 1000lbs or more, so I'll just bleed > off enough to get her down to her fighting weight. > > > Deems #406 > it's all done, ......gonna light the fire soon. > http://deemsrv10.com/ > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Importing a Canadian Amateur Built aircraft into the US From: DejaVu Unless something changed since 2000 this is not the case. My old -6 was brought into the U.S. with 30 hours, re-registered, inspected, and was up flying a few weeks later. Anh RV-10 Flying On Sun 02/22/09 10:48 PM , "Edwin L (Ted) French" ted_french@telus.net sent: DIV { MARGIN: 0px } It has been my understanding that a amateur built aircraft imported into the US from Canada had to have a minimum of 100 hours on it before it would be considered elegible to be brought in. I spent a good part of my afternoon trying to find something on the various web sites that might confirm this and came up with a blank. Does anyone on the list know if this is a requirement and if so, where I might find it on the web. e.g.: FAA site, etc Thanks Do Not Archive Ted French C-FXCS RV-10 Flying http://www.matronicp; the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ================ HTTP://WWW.MATRONICS.COM/NAVIGATOR?RV10-LIST [1] HTTP://WWW.MATRONICS.COM/CONTRIBUTION [3] Links: ------ [1] http://metromail.metrocast.net/HTTP://WWW.MATRONICS.COM/NAVIGATOR?RV10-LIST [2] http://metromail.metrocast.net/HTTP://FORUMS.MATRONICS.COM/ [3] http://metromail.metrocast.net/HTTP://WWW.MATRONICS.COM/CONTRIBUTION ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:05 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RE: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In A couple of weeks ago I was called a Cirrus by the RYN tower but I did not qualify. I wasn't heavy enough. The DVT tower is going to begin mistaking you for an SR22. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In Well today, I got up enough courage to put in12 qts if mineral oil and push N519PJ up on the scales. I figured with the 'mods' that she might be a bit on the portly side, sort of expected something in the neighborhood of 1700lbs. The only thing she lacks is some carpet. Well, the number turned out to be 1772 ! A bit more than I was expecting, but I remembered that we had 40 + lbs of air in each tire, ....... so I let out 15 lbs out of each tire, so she should only weigh 1737 now. (that makes me feel slightly better), I'm not sure how many lbs I have in the O2 tank, but when I get a guage on it, I figure there should be 1000lbs or more, so I'll just bleed off enough to get her down to her fighting weight. Deems #406 it's all done, ......gonna light the fire soon. http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:38 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In Now THERE you go....when you're flying into North Las Vegas, just call in as "Cirrus NXXXX".....they'd never recognize the subtle differences, and then you wouldn't have to worry about banning experimentals. ;) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive David McNeill wrote: > > A couple of weeks ago I was called a Cirrus by the RYN tower but I did not > qualify. I wasn't heavy enough. The DVT tower is going to begin mistaking > you for an SR22. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:15 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In > > > Well today, I got up enough courage to put in12 qts if mineral oil and push > N519PJ up on the scales. I figured with the 'mods' that she might be a bit > on the portly side, sort of expected something in the > neighborhood of 1700lbs. The only thing she lacks is some carpet. > Well, the number turned out to be 1772 ! A bit more than I was expecting, > but I remembered that we had 40 + lbs of air in each tire, ....... so I let > out 15 lbs out of each tire, so she should only weigh > 1737 now. (that makes me feel slightly better), I'm not sure how many lbs I > have in the O2 tank, but when I get a guage on it, I figure there should be > 1000lbs or more, so I'll just bleed off enough to get her down to her > fighting weight. > > > Deems #406 > it's all done, ......gonna light the fire soon. > http://deemsrv10.com/ > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In From: Kelly McMullen I suspect Tim has had far more ATC personnel refer to his plane as a Cirrus, due to the tail number. These days not many ATC are pilots, and you could probably tell them you were a Lancair or Cessna 400 or Comanche, and they wouldn't know the difference. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Now THERE you go....when you're flying into North Las Vegas, just > call in as "Cirrus NXXXX".....they'd never recognize the subtle > differences, and then you wouldn't have to worry about banning > experimentals. ;) > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > David McNeill wrote: > >> >> A couple of weeks ago I was called a Cirrus by the RYN tower but I did not >> qualify. I wasn't heavy enough. The DVT tower is going to begin mistaking >> you for an SR22. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis >> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:15 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In >> >> >> Well today, I got up enough courage to put in12 qts if mineral oil and >> push >> N519PJ up on the scales. I figured with the 'mods' that she might be a bit >> on the portly side, sort of expected something in the neighborhood of >> 1700lbs. The only thing she lacks is some carpet. Well, the number turned >> out to be 1772 ! A bit more than I was expecting, >> but I remembered that we had 40 + lbs of air in each tire, ....... so I >> let >> out 15 lbs out of each tire, so she should only weigh >> 1737 now. (that makes me feel slightly better), I'm not sure how many lbs >> I >> have in the O2 tank, but when I get a guage on it, I figure there should >> be >> 1000lbs or more, so I'll just bleed off enough to get her down to her >> fighting weight. >> >> >> Deems #406 >> it's all done, ......gonna light the fire soon. >> http://deemsrv10.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:22 PM PST US From: Sheldon Olesen Subject: Re: RV10-List: GRT Serial Connections Bob, Is this offer still open? When it was first posted back in June I had no need for it so I saved it just in case. I have pretty much the same main equipment and I am having some trouble with the interface between the 480 and 330. I've got a pair of Horizon 1's. Also the fuel/air data between the GRT and the 480 has been a problem. How does the 330 get its encoder data from the GRT? I'm trying to get everything working for a trip to Farmington, NM in mid March and a trip to avionics shop to upgrade the 480 on Fri. I've got my hours flown off and took a trip IA to pick up my mother- in-law for a 2-3 week stay. That 4 hour round trip sure beat a 12 hour car trip. To my surprise the gas going down was about the same as driving. I been having fun so far. Thanks, Sheldon Olesen N475PV On Jun 11, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote: > > > Using GRT Wx with the WS/HS versions of the GRT requires high speed > serial inputs to each DU (as opposed to using inter-DU communication). > When the new HX displays are on the scene they will use USB > directly to > the Wx receiver (processor box not needed with the HX). Only ports > 1 & > 2 on the WS/HS support the 115,200 high speed serial rate. For > redundancy there are some cases where a single device (like the > AHRS/ADC) feeds multiple DUs. > > I'd be happy to email my connectivity and configuration documents to > those interested. My panel config has the following so it's pretty > complete starting point: > GRT (3 screens) > PMA-8000B > SL-30 > GNS-480 > GTX-330 > TruTrak Digiflight II-VSGV > GRT Weather receiver/processor > CO Guardian 353 > AOA Pro > > It is a relatively minor wiring difference between the GNS-480 I'm > using > and a 430W and doesn't impact the serial port configuration. > > Bob > N442PM > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William > Curtis > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:47 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: GRT Serial Connections > > > Jason, > > Your GRT configuration is and will probably continue to be a popular > configuration. I still have not decided on which solution I'm going > with and will probably not for a while yet even though most of the > electrical work is done. Why don't you share with the list what you > are trying to accomplish. Those that have sent suggestion off list, > might I suggest sharing with the list for those that are considering > this same configuration. > > http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/91Panel/10PanelGRT.jpg > http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/91Panel/index.html > > Remember, for each transmit (Tx) serial line you can have multiple > receivers (Rx). Many of your listed devices only require one or the > other. Only a few require both Tx and Rx. > > GNS430; Tx Aviation data to EFIS1/2, GTX327, TT VSGV > EFIS; Tx Icarus altitude data to GNS430, GTX327 > EFIS; Tx / Rx to - from SL-30 > > I'll have to look up what the GRT XM Weather requires. > > William > http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:15 PM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In Geeze, you can tell which ones are the American built RV-10's. HA! I can make fun.... for now. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In Deems, You can consider "9PJ" to have one of the largest payloads of any 3 place RV built to date. BTW I am right there with you ~1700# before paint, interior. Looking forward to your start. That engine/exhaust combination is quite motivating. Robin Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:15 PM Subject: RV10-List: N519PJ Weigh -In Well today, I got up enough courage to put in12 qts if mineral oil and push N519PJ up on the scales. I figured with the 'mods' that she might be a bit on the portly side, sort of expected something in the neighborhood of 1700lbs. The only thing she lacks is some carpet. Well, the number turned out to be 1772 ! A bit more than I was expecting, but I remembered that we had 40 + lbs of air in each tire, ....... so I let out 15 lbs out of each tire, so she should only weigh 1737 now. (that makes me feel slightly better), I'm not sure how many lbs I have in the O2 tank, but when I get a guage on it, I figure there should be 1000lbs or more, so I'll just bleed off enough to get her down to her fighting weight. Deems #406 it's all done, ......gonna light the fire soon. http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:40 PM PST US From: Bill Mauledriver Watson Subject: RV10-List: OT - The hydraulic ram on my HF engine hoist failed It seems that the ram on my Harbor Freight engine hoist failed. Suddenly, after getting my engine mounted, the ram ceased ramming. There was no leakage. Pumping had no effect. My guess is that some internal seal failed. I followed the directions to bleed it. After making a bit of a mess, the ram still appears to have failed. I don't know what to do next. Replace the ram, the whole hoist, or repair. I'm wondering what caused it.I left the engine hanging on the hoist for several months (with protection but the whole weight was borne by the ram). Is that the reason? Advice is sought and welcome. Bill "it sure looks great up on the wheels and with the engine on it" Watson ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:43:55 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Finish and Paint questions ?? From: "AirMike" getting toward the finish line and I would like to get some feed back on paint and finish 1. Cowling - how many are using just smoothprime to finish the cowling prior to painting? Sealing pinholes seems to be a big problem here. 2. PPG DCC Concept seems to be a very popular paint right now. Does anyone who has used it have any feedback - (expensive) 3. I was told today that PPG DCC Concept does not need to follow the traditional : scotch brite (aluminum) - alodine - prime - paint protocol I was told that you can go right to the paint from the alodine process?? -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231758#231758 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.