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1. 05:14 AM - Re: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet (orchidman)
2. 08:12 AM - Re: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet (Vernon Smith)
3. 08:38 AM - Re: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet (Kelly McMullen)
4. 09:48 AM - Re: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet (Deems Panel) (Robin Marks)
5. 10:57 AM - Re: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet (Deems Panel) (Sean Stephens)
6. 11:40 AM - Adel Pliers (johngoodman)
7. 12:10 PM - TDT rises from his slumber (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
8. 12:11 PM - Re: Re: Fuel injection servo attachment - concerned ? (John Cumins)
9. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet (jim@CombsFive.Com)
10. 12:52 PM - Re: Leaning For Taxi (John Cumins)
11. 12:57 PM - Re: Adel Pliers (John Cumins)
12. 02:29 PM - Page 9-15 Step 7, Trim cable attachment question (John Trollinger)
13. 02:33 PM - New Hartzell Available (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
14. 02:41 PM - Re: Adel Pliers (John Cox)
15. 02:50 PM - Re: New Hartzell Available (Tim Olson)
16. 02:52 PM - Re: New Hartzell Available (pascal)
17. 02:55 PM - Re: New Hartzell Available (John Cox)
18. 02:56 PM - Re: Page 9-15 Step 7, Trim cable attachment question (David Maib)
19. 03:09 PM - Re: Page 9-15 Step 7, Trim cable attachment question (Perry, Phil)
20. 04:57 PM - Re: Page 9-15 Step 7, Trim cable attachment question (Kelly McMullen)
21. 05:10 PM - Re: New Hartzell Available (Robin Marks)
22. 05:34 PM - Another Milestone (Deems Davis)
23. 05:43 PM - Re: Another Milestone (David Maib)
24. 06:00 PM - Re: Adel Pliers (dmaib@mac.com)
25. 06:18 PM - Re: Re: Adel Pliers (Fred Williams, M.D.)
26. 06:35 PM - Re: Another Milestone (Byron Gillespie)
27. 06:35 PM - Re: Another Milestone (Bill Gipson)
28. 06:54 PM - Re: Another Milestone (Kelly McMullen)
29. 07:23 PM - Re: New Hartzell Available (Miller John)
30. 07:39 PM - Re: New Hartzell Available (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
31. 07:44 PM - Re: Installing Hartzell prop on IO540 (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
32. 08:04 PM - Re: Adel Pliers (Larry Rosen)
33. 09:35 PM - Re: New Hartzell Available (Vernon Smith)
34. 10:39 PM - Re: Another Milestone (Bob and Karen Brown)
35. 10:41 PM - Re: Adel Pliers (Bob and Karen Brown)
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| Subject: | Re: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet |
bkbrown(at)minetfiber.com wrote:
> Doesn't Rob Hickman include something like that on his EFIS?
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Yes he does. You can see a screen shot of it also on his web site
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Engine, Fiberglass - SB
(N2GB registered)
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| Subject: | W&B envelope program/spreadsheet |
Hi Bob=2C
If memory serves me Deems is using Avidyne EFIS' with a Dynon backup.
Vern Smith (finishing=3B engine baffles fitted & painted:)
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> From: bkbrown@minetfiber.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet
> Date: Thu=2C 5 Mar 2009 19:32:00 -0800
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> Doesn't Rob Hickman include something like that on his EFIS?
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> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Thursday=2C March 05=2C 2009 5:27 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet
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> Does anyone know of or have access to a Weight and Balance CG program
> that incorporates a graphic 'envelope' to depict the ranges? I saw one
> that TDT posted=2C but it's password protected.
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> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
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| Subject: | Re: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet |
Actually I believe he went whole hog with Ops technology.
Vernon Smith wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> If memory serves me Deems is using Avidyne EFIS' with a Dynon backup.
>
> Vern Smith (finishing; engine baffles fitted & painted:)
>
> do not archive
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> > From: bkbrown@minetfiber.com
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet
> > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:32:00 -0800
> >
> <bkbrown@minetfiber.com>
> >
> > Doesn't Rob Hickman include something like that on his EFIS?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:27 PM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know of or have access to a Weight and Balance CG program
> > that incorporates a graphic 'envelope' to depict the ranges? I saw one
> > that TDT posted, but it's password protected.
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> > Deems Davis # 406
> > 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
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| Subject: | W&B envelope program/spreadsheet (Deems Panel) |
Picture worth 1000 words... No Avidyne here
Robin
Executive assistant to Deems Davis
CFO (Chief Flying Officer)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McMullen
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet
Actually I believe he went whole hog with Ops technology.
Vernon Smith wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> If memory serves me Deems is using Avidyne EFIS' with a Dynon backup.
>
> Vern Smith (finishing; engine baffles fitted & painted:)
>
> do not archive
>
> > From: bkbrown@minetfiber.com
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet
> > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:32:00 -0800
> >
> <bkbrown@minetfiber.com>
> >
> > Doesn't Rob Hickman include something like that on his EFIS?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems
Davis
> > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:27 PM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know of or have access to a Weight and Balance CG
program
> > that incorporates a graphic 'envelope' to depict the ranges? I saw
one
> > that TDT posted, but it's password protected.
> >
> > Deems Davis # 406
> > 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> > http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet (Deems Panel) |
I believe it was TDT that was going Avidyne? Not sure if that is
still the plan as I believe he stated a while back that he no longer
worked for them? At the time I remember TDT mentioning something
about Avidyne possibly moving toward better experimental availability,
but not sure where that stands.
On Mar 6, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
> Picture worth 1000 words... No Avidyne here
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> Robin
> Executive assistant to Deems Davis
> CFO (Chief Flying Officer)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:37 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet
>
>
> Actually I believe he went whole hog with Ops technology.
>
> Vernon Smith wrote:
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > If memory serves me Deems is using Avidyne EFIS' with a Dynon
> backup.
> >
> > Vern Smith (finishing; engine baffles fitted & painted:)
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> > > From: bkbrown@minetfiber.com
> > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: RE: RV10-List: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet
> > > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:32:00 -0800
> > >
> > <bkbrown@minetfiber.com>
> > >
> > > Doesn't Rob Hickman include something like that on his EFIS?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems
> Davis
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:27 PM
> > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: RV10-List: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of or have access to a Weight and Balance CG
> program
> > > that incorporates a graphic 'envelope' to depict the ranges? I
> saw one
> > > that TDT posted, but it's password protected.
> > >
> > > Deems Davis # 406
> > > 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> > > http://deemsrv10.com/
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Has anybody tried out these Adel Clamp Pliers from Wicks? If so, are they worth
the money?
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=17313~subid=12123/index.html
John
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#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started.
N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | TDT rises from his slumber |
I hung around Avidyne just long enough to get my "employee discount" on
a PFD and MFD. My airplane building is a little slow, but 2009 should
be the year!
I have only observed it tangentially, but it seems my former colleagues
have not moved to support experimentals as much as I would have hoped.
They have been going after some of the certified retrofit market
instead, but now Garmin is moving in that sector, too. Hard to compete
with someone who has the amounts of cash that Garmin generates.
With the overall economy the way it is, and the OEMs cutting way back, I
can imagine it would be getting stressful. Garmin has their
home/auto/marine groups to at least diversify. (But presumably those
sectors are contracting, too.)
Did I post a W&B spreadsheet? It shouldn't be password-protected.
Somebody point me to it and I'll check it out. Or was it someone else?
TDT
Tim Dawson-Townsend
Aurora Flight Sciences
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel injection servo attachment - concerned ? |
If any one needs good aircraft hardware go to JCAero.com. He has anything
and everything you need if it is not on his web site give him a call and we
will have it or he can order it. I get all my hardware from him and he is
way cheaper then the other places.
But I can drive right up to his shop and get anything I need on a moments
notice.
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President
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Fairfield Ca 94533
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fuel injection servo attachment - concerned ?
My FWF kit that I picked up approx August '07 has these plain 1/2" long
1/4x20 bolts. They use this "tab/washer arrangement" to secure the bolts in
place. I consider this a poor solution and potentially dangerous giving you
four more pieces of steel in the FAB.
I may have located the drilled 1/4 x 20 bolts at Spencer Aircraft in
Washington State.
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Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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| Subject: | Re: W&B envelope program/spreadsheet |
It's not a graph per se, but the EFIS does do the calculations with
current fuel and zero fuel to let you know if the CG will move out of
range. They do show a CG line along with CG limit lines and change
the colors (green = OK, Red = You really should not do that!).
It's really nice to load up and just dial in the numbers to know you are
good to go. Although try asking a couple of ladies what their weight
is! Should you guess? How lucky do you feel today? Most of the
men don't mind
Food for thought!
Jim C
N312F /
40192 - Flying (Phase I - COMPLETE!) - Installing the AFS autopilot
servo's now
"orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
bkbrown(at)minetfiber.com wrote:
> Doesn't Rob Hickman include
something like that on his EFIS?
>
> --
Yes he does.
You can see a screen shot of it also on his web site
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Engine,
Fiberglass - SB
(N2GB registered)
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| Subject: | Leaning For Taxi |
I do agree with leaning during taxi. But also spend the big bucks and get a
set of fine wire plugs they will last almost the full life of the engine and
are not as apt to fowl if you forget to lean. Once we did that in the
IO540K series engine we have had perfect run ups with and with out leaning.
When I do the engine on the 10 it will for sure have the fine wire p[lugs in
it. I also like the looks of the g3 mfd electronic ignition system that
will work on either bendix or slick mages.
John G. Cumins
President
JC'S Interactive Systems
2499 B1 Martin Rd
Fairfield Ca 94533
707-425-7100
707-425-7576 Fax
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Leaning For Taxi
The safe way to do it with any aircraft engine is lean till the engine
almost quits while you are taxiing. That way any advance of the
throttle will make the engine stumble, so you don't forget as you take
the runway.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Fred Williams, M.D.
<drfred@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
> <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
>
>
> Jason;
>
> Just pulled my plugs and cleaned them at 80 hrs because I didn't lean on
the
> ground. Another lesson learned. Started having asymmetrical mag drops.
As
> the other posts have said. Lean out aggressively once you get the engine
> started.
> Let us know when you fire it up!
> Dr Fred.
>
>
> jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com wrote:
>>
>> We started writing out checklists (POH) and have noticed that a few
>> samples have the operator lean the engine after start and before taxi.
What
>> are the reasons for leaning during taxi? Upsides, downsides? Is this
just
>> a fuel savings measure, does it prevent fouling?
>>
>> Just getting ready to dump in oil and fire it up!!
>>
>> Thanks, Jason Kreidler
>>
>> #40617 N44YH
>> Sheboygan Falls, WI
>> (4) Partner Build
>> Jason Kreidler
>> Kyle Hokel
>> Tony Kolar
>> Wayne Elsner
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Wow I wish I had a set of those when I did the engine overhaul on the
Saratoga. I have a hard rule no tie wraps in the engine compartment just
clamps as needed and wires tied with the proper wire string as needed.
The engine looks perfect and everything is secure.
John G. Cumins
40864 horz stab priming
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 11:40 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Adel Pliers
Has anybody tried out these Adel Clamp Pliers from Wicks? If so, are they
worth the money?
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=17313~subid=1212
3/index.html
John
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#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started.
N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Page 9-15 Step 7, Trim cable attachment question |
So I bought the after market trim cable attachment brackets from
Cleavland tools and am ready to assemble. The vans instructions say
to use a LP4-3 to put the pieces together. The aftermarket bracket is
pretty thick and I was thinking about dimpling the WD-415 and then
countersinking the bracket to accept the dimple and then using an
AN-426 and back rivet it together.
Just wanted to get some group feedback on my plan and see what others
using these brackets have done.
thanks,
John Trollinger
Builder 40923
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| Subject: | New Hartzell Available |
Anyone notice this this week?
http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2009/090305hartzell.html?WT.mc_id0306epilot&WT.mc_sect=gan
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1236378475-338-27&browse=props&product=csprop-hartzell
At over 15k it must be heated and add 15kts. Sheesh
Rob, did you ever get time to make any runs with the prop?
Michael
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No. However a simple piece of hacksaw blade and your pencil grinder can
make an Adel lock tool which is easy to install, easy to remove and just
plain slick. Discarded Medical Forceps work on the cheap.
If you are doing triple stacked or quad stacked Adels for a living then
maybe the tool will prove itself.
John Cox
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of johngoodman
Sent: Fri 3/6/2009 11:39 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Adel Pliers
<johngoodman@earthlink.net>
Has anybody tried out these Adel Clamp Pliers from Wicks? If so, are
they worth the money?
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=17313~subid
=12123/index.html
John
--------
#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started.
N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Re: New Hartzell Available |
And over $16,000 with the required spinner....
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
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> Anyone notice this this week?
>
> http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2009/090305hartzell.html?WT.mc_id0306epilot&WT.mc_sect=gan
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1236378475-338-27&browse=props&product=csprop-hartzell
>
>
> At over 15k it must be heated and add 15kts. Sheesh
>
> Rob, did you ever get time to make any runs with the prop?
>
> Michael
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Hartzell Available |
2.5 times the price of the two blade aluminum is nuts!
At AOPA last November I was given the scoop from a source within Hartzell
that the two blade is the best blade for the RV-10, he suggested I get the
blade balanced and I would have everything that the three blade would offer
except the looks and maybe a slight decrease in climb performance, but with
the RV-10 the climb would still outpace another three bladed plane anyway,
he saw I was married and knew I wasn't looking to impress any women along my
travels and hence told me to stick with the 2 blade.
Interesting thing is my wife wanted a 3 blade but changed her mind when I
mentioned the difference in price.
But that is nice looking blade!
--------------------------------------------------
From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: New Hartzell Available
> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
> Anyone notice this this week?
>
> http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2009/090305hartzell.html?WT.mc_id0306epilot&WT.mc_sect=gan
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1236378475-338-27&browse=props&product=csprop-hartzell
>
>
> At over 15k it must be heated and add 15kts. Sheesh
>
> Rob, did you ever get time to make any runs with the prop?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
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First positive today was the news that Rob's prop is now VAN approved
for the rest of us. The second was the picture of Robin's panel and the
third is word from Phoenix (Deer Valley)- that we are ALL waiting for.
So I am listening with anticipation and have a foot that is hoping like
a rabbit that another Barrett / Forsling / James Fire Breather "Chunky
Monkey" is ready for launch into the heavens.
John Cox
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Fri 3/6/2009 2:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: New Hartzell Available
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Anyone notice this this week?
http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2009/090305hartzell.html?WT.mc_id=
090306epilot&WT.mc_sect=gan
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1236378475-338-27
&browse=props&product=csprop-hartzell
At over 15k it must be heated and add 15kts. Sheesh
Rob, did you ever get time to make any runs with the prop?
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: Page 9-15 Step 7, Trim cable attachment question |
Back in December, when I disassembled the airplane for the paint
shop, I decided to attach them with nutplates for the re-assembly. It
was a real bear to get the trim cable panels off with the brackets
riveted on. I believe others have done this, as well.
David Maib
40559
flying
On Mar 6, 2009, at 5:27 PM, John Trollinger wrote:
So I bought the after market trim cable attachment brackets from
Cleavland tools and am ready to assemble. The vans instructions say
to use a LP4-3 to put the pieces together. The aftermarket bracket is
pretty thick and I was thinking about dimpling the WD-415 and then
countersinking the bracket to accept the dimple and then using an
AN-426 and back rivet it together.
Just wanted to get some group feedback on my plan and see what others
using these brackets have done.
thanks,
John Trollinger
Builder 40923
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| Subject: | Re: Page 9-15 Step 7, Trim cable attachment question |
I dimpled the access panels and machine counter sunk the brackets to use
AN 426AD4-5? Don't remember the length...just used rivet gage for
whatever worked on that combination. Comes out nice to have flush rivets
to keep bottom of plate smooth. As mentioned, an alternative would be to
rivet nut plates to the brackets and use countersunk screws to hold them.
John Trollinger wrote:
>
> So I bought the after market trim cable attachment brackets from
> Cleavland tools and am ready to assemble. The vans instructions say
> to use a LP4-3 to put the pieces together. The aftermarket bracket is
> pretty thick and I was thinking about dimpling the WD-415 and then
> countersinking the bracket to accept the dimple and then using an
> AN-426 and back rivet it together.
>
> Just wanted to get some group feedback on my plan and see what others
> using these brackets have done.
>
> thanks,
>
> John Trollinger
>
> Builder 40923
>
>
>
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| Subject: | New Hartzell Available |
Just a point of clarification... The panel image I posted was of Deems'
layout as Vern thought Deems was using the Avidyne system. I wanted to
answer for Deems as he is otherwise occupied. (I went with the
G900X/Dynon Back Up)
As far as props go... $15,000 is in the ball park when compared with the
other 3 blades out there. Throw in a custom paint scheme. Cough, cough
(Deems) and my guess is that all 3 blades are running $15 ish.
Unfortunately with all the equipment out there we still have no, zero,
zilch, nada side by side comparisons. So how is one to know what is the
fastest or best option? My choice was $6.5k, two blades and easy cowl
removal. Heck most of my friends don't have an airplane so ego still
intact. I have a feeling that when all is said & done the BA Hartzell
may be the fastest of them all in cruise.
Of note those thinking of the James cowl will need to buy a $1,100+ 14"
spinner.
My Barrett / Forsling / James Fire Breather "Chunky Monkey" is almost
dressed (painted)...
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: New Hartzell Available
First positive today was the news that Rob's prop is now VAN approved
for the rest of us. The second was the picture of Robin's panel and the
third is word from Phoenix (Deer Valley)- that we are ALL waiting for.
So I am listening with anticipation and have a foot that is hoping like
a rabbit that another Barrett / Forsling / James Fire Breather "Chunky
Monkey" is ready for launch into the heavens.
John Cox
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Fri 3/6/2009 2:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: New Hartzell Available
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Anyone notice this this week?
http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2009/090305hartzell.html?WT.mc_id=
090306epilot&WT.mc_sect=gan
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1236378475-338-27
&
browse=props&product=csprop-hartzell
At over 15k it must be heated and add 15kts. Sheesh
Rob, did you ever get time to make any runs with the
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Well today marked another pretty big milestone for me. Gary Towner (DAR)
drove down from Overgaard today, and performed an inspection of N519PJ.
Gary had all of the parperwork ready, except for the affidavit, that I
had to have notarized, and we began by completing the required forms.
Made appropriate entry in my (new) Airframe log book, and then we moved
to the inspection. Gary's primary focus and concern was the flight
controls. we began inside of the cockpit, and then proceeded outside to
all of the flight surfaces and connections. His next stop was the
firewall forward area. I pointed out to him one item I noticed
yesterday, where I hadn't sealed (RTV) a firewall passthrough. Gary
spent about 1 1/2 hours on the inspection, and didn't note any squawks.
We moved back to finalize the A/W certificate, and went through the Ops
Limitations. Gary gave me a REALLY big Phase 1 test area. Essentially
DVT to Kingman, to Laughlin (Colorado River) down the river to Parker
then SouthEast all the way to Casa Grande, then back west of PHX
(Goodyear, Glendale) and back to DVT. Gary helped walk me through the
repairmans cert application, and then handed me the A/W cert and the Ops
Lim and made the official entry in the Airframe logbook.
1st flight will occur as soon as the FAA sends my medical. My AME said
to expect May1 :'(
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Final%20Assembly/slides/DSC07403.html
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done............ period!
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Another Milestone |
Congratulations Deems! Great news! Now if OKC will just move along
smartly for you............................
David Maib
On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Deems Davis wrote:
Well today marked another pretty big milestone for me. Gary Towner
(DAR) drove down from Overgaard today, and performed an inspection of
N519PJ. Gary had all of the parperwork ready, except for the
affidavit, that I had to have notarized, and we began by completing
the required forms. Made appropriate entry in my (new) Airframe log
book, and then we moved to the inspection. Gary's primary focus and
concern was the flight controls. we began inside of the cockpit, and
then proceeded outside to all of the flight surfaces and connections.
His next stop was the firewall forward area. I pointed out to him one
item I noticed yesterday, where I hadn't sealed (RTV) a firewall
passthrough. Gary spent about 1 1/2 hours on the inspection, and
didn't note any squawks. We moved back to finalize the A/W
certificate, and went through the Ops Limitations. Gary gave me a
REALLY big Phase 1 test area. Essentially DVT to Kingman, to Laughlin
(Colorado River) down the river to Parker then SouthEast all the way
to Casa Grande, then back west of PHX (Goodyear, Glendale) and back
to DVT. Gary helped walk me through the repairmans cert application,
and then handed me the A/W cert and the Ops Lim and made the official
entry in the Airframe logbook.
1st flight will occur as soon as the FAA sends my medical. My AME
said to expect May1 :'(
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Final%20Assembly/slides/DSC07403.html
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done............ period!
http://deemsrv10.com/
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John, I would love to know more about the hacksaw blade/pencil grinder adel clamp
tool. Sounds intriguing!
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233544#233544
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dmaib@mac.com wrote:
>
> John, I would love to know more about the hacksaw blade/pencil grinder adel clamp
tool. Sounds intriguing!
>
> --------
> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233544#233544
>
>
>
My guess is a slot cut in a short piece to lock the two halves together.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Dr Fred.
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| Subject: | Another Milestone |
Congrats Deems...
Many of us have been following along with the build and very excited for
you - Keep it up!
Byron
N253RV assigned - Just need to get it all finished!
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Another Milestone
Well today marked another pretty big milestone for me. Gary Towner (DAR)
drove down from Overgaard today, and performed an inspection of N519PJ.
Gary had all of the parperwork ready, except for the affidavit, that I
had to have notarized, and we began by completing the required forms.
Made appropriate entry in my (new) Airframe log book, and then we moved
to the inspection. Gary's primary focus and concern was the flight
controls. we began inside of the cockpit, and then proceeded outside to
all of the flight surfaces and connections. His next stop was the
firewall forward area. I pointed out to him one item I noticed
yesterday, where I hadn't sealed (RTV) a firewall passthrough. Gary
spent about 1 1/2 hours on the inspection, and didn't note any squawks.
We moved back to finalize the A/W certificate, and went through the Ops
Limitations. Gary gave me a REALLY big Phase 1 test area. Essentially
DVT to Kingman, to Laughlin (Colorado River) down the river to Parker
then SouthEast all the way to Casa Grande, then back west of PHX
(Goodyear, Glendale) and back to DVT. Gary helped walk me through the
repairmans cert application, and then handed me the A/W cert and the Ops
Lim and made the official entry in the Airframe logbook.
1st flight will occur as soon as the FAA sends my medical. My AME said
to expect May1 :'(
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Final%20Assembly/slides/DSC07403.html
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done............ period!
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Another Milestone |
Deems=2C congrats on your passing the DAR inspection. I went thru the same
exercise 3 weeks ago. Passed without any real squawks. I too have a medi
cal issue with OKC and am waiting on their approval. My AME was a jerk abo
ut my medical this time=2C so he shipped it to OKC without even telling me.
I have a BP problem according to him. This was in November and I've lost
nearly 25 lbs since and my blood pressure is down below FAA maximums. I'v
e jumped thru hoops with my internist since then and now am waiting for FAA
approval on my medical. Bud Warren has been my test pilot for N730WL. He
flew the first flight last week. And I can't wait to fly my LS1 powered R
V10. Hope to meet you soon at Oshkosh??
Regards=2C
Bill Gipson
N730WL
> Date: Fri=2C 6 Mar 2009 18:29:48 -0700
> From: deemsdavis@cox.net
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Another Milestone
>
>
> Well today marked another pretty big milestone for me. Gary Towner (DAR)
> drove down from Overgaard today=2C and performed an inspection of N519PJ.
> Gary had all of the parperwork ready=2C except for the affidavit=2C that
I
> had to have notarized=2C and we began by completing the required forms.
> Made appropriate entry in my (new) Airframe log book=2C and then we moved
> to the inspection. Gary's primary focus and concern was the flight
> controls. we began inside of the cockpit=2C and then proceeded outside to
> all of the flight surfaces and connections. His next stop was the
> firewall forward area. I pointed out to him one item I noticed
> yesterday=2C where I hadn't sealed (RTV) a firewall passthrough. Gary
> spent about 1 1/2 hours on the inspection=2C and didn't note any squawks.
> We moved back to finalize the A/W certificate=2C and went through the Ops
> Limitations. Gary gave me a REALLY big Phase 1 test area. Essentially
> DVT to Kingman=2C to Laughlin (Colorado River) down the river to Parker
> then SouthEast all the way to Casa Grande=2C then back west of PHX
> (Goodyear=2C Glendale) and back to DVT. Gary helped walk me through the
> repairmans cert application=2C and then handed me the A/W cert and the Op
s
> Lim and made the official entry in the Airframe logbook.
> 1st flight will occur as soon as the FAA sends my medical. My AME said
> to expect May1 :'(
>
> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Final%20Assembly/slides/DSC07403.html
>
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done............ period!
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another Milestone |
Congratulations Deem! I guess you have time to do a few more modifications. 8>)
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Well today marked another pretty big milestone for me. Gary Towner (DAR)
> drove down from Overgaard today, and performed an inspection of N519PJ. Gary
helped walk me through the
> repairmans cert application, and then handed me the A/W cert and the Ops Lim
> and made the official entry in the Airframe logbook.
> 1st flight will occur as soon as the FAA sends my medical. My AME said to
> expect May1 :'(
>
> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Final%20Assembly/slides/DSC07403.html
>
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done............ period!
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Hartzell Available |
You'd a thought you'd at least get 20 yrs and 2,000 TBO for this
price.....
Grumpy
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On Mar 6, 2009, at 4:31 PM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> >
>
> Anyone notice this this week?
>
> http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2009/090305hartzell.html?WT.mc_id0306epilot&WT.mc_sect=gan
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1236378475-338-27&browse=props&product=csprop-hartzell
>
>
> At over 15k it must be heated and add 15kts. Sheesh
>
> Rob, did you ever get time to make any runs with the prop?
>
> Michael
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Hartzell Available |
No kidding...my MT was only a bit more that the 2 blade Hartzell...I chose it for
smoothness and looks not performance...but alas it only has the standard ILS
paint...grey with white tips on the front.
Rick Sked
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From: Miller John
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ReplyTo: Rv
Sent: Mar 6, 2009 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Hartzell Available
You'd a thought you'd at least get 20 yrs and 2,000 TBO for this
price.....
Grumpy
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On Mar 6, 2009, at 4:31 PM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
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> Anyone notice this this week?
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> http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2009/090305hartzell.html?WT.mc_id0306epilot&WT.mc_sect=gan
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> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1236378475-338-27&browse=props&product=csprop-hartzell
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>
> At over 15k it must be heated and add 15kts. Sheesh
>
> Rob, did you ever get time to make any runs with the prop?
>
> Michael
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| Subject: | Re: Installing Hartzell prop on IO540 |
I ended up drilling a hole, taping it, and using a screw through a piece
of scrap to pull the plug out. I tried prying the cap out using tools
thru the hole. That didn't work.
There is a rear plug installed that seals this section of the crank. A
shaft with a cut-out in it is installed across the mouth of the hollow
crank which must be where the oil enters/exits the crank.
Thanks for the help all.
> --> <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
>
> Does the metal cup pressed into the end of the crank have to be removed
> before installation of the constant speed prop?
>
> I assume that cup is in place for fixed pitch props. But I can't find a
> specific reference to the need or procedure for removing it in the
> documentation. Even reading the procedure for changing between constant
> speed and fixed configurations doesn't directly address removal of the metal
> cup.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Bill
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I use a small pair of hemostats to hold the andel clamp closed. You can
usually pick them up at a flea market of fly mart for a couple of bucks.
Larry Rosen
johngoodman wrote:
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> Has anybody tried out these Adel Clamp Pliers from Wicks? If so, are they worth
the money?
>
> http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=17313~subid=12123/index.html
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> John
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| Subject: | New Hartzell Available |
Robin=2C
Thanks for setting me straight. I don't get out of the Northwest much=2C bu
t just wait till N44QT is done!
Vern
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Subject: RE: RV10-List: New Hartzell Available
From: robin1@mrmoisture.com
RV10-List: New Hartzell Available
Just
a point of clarification=85 The panel image I posted was of Deems=92
layout as Vern thought Deems was using the Avidyne system. I wanted to answ
er for
Deems as he is otherwise occupied. (I went with the G900X/Dynon Back Up)
As
far as props go=85 $15=2C000 is in the ball park when compared with the oth
er
3 blades out there. Throw in a custom paint scheme. Cough=2C cough (Deems)
and my
guess is that all 3 blades are running $15 ish. Unfortunately with all the
equipment
out there we still have no=2C zero=2C zilch=2C nada side by side comparison
s. So how
is one to know what is the fastest or best option? My choice was $6.5k=2C t
wo blades
and easy cowl removal. Heck most of my friends don=92t have an airplane so
ego still intact. I have a feeling that when all is said & done the BA
Hartzell may be the fastest of them all in cruise.
Of
note those thinking of the James cowl will need to buy a $1=2C100+ 14=94
spinner.
My
Barrett /
Forsling / James Fire Breather "Chunky Monkey" is almost dressed (painted)
=85
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Friday=2C March 06=2C 2009 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: New Hartzell Available
First
positive today was the news that Rob's prop is now VAN approved for the res
t of
us. The second was the picture of Robin's panel and the third is word
from Phoenix (Deer Valley)- that we are ALL waiting for. So I am listening
with anticipation and have a foot that is hoping like a rabbit that another
Barrett / Forsling / James Fire Breather "Chunky Monkey" is ready for
launch into the heavens.
John Cox
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Sent: Fri 3/6/2009 2:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: New Hartzell Available
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Anyone notice this this week?
http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2009/090305hartzell.html?WT.mc_id=0
90306epilot&WT.mc_sect=gan
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1236378475-338-27&b
rowse=props&product=csprop-hartzell
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| Subject: | Another Milestone |
I know how that all feels...and it all feels good. Congratulations Deems.
Bob Brown
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 5:30 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Another Milestone
Well today marked another pretty big milestone for me. Gary Towner (DAR)
drove down from Overgaard today, and performed an inspection of N519PJ.
Gary had all of the parperwork ready, except for the affidavit, that I
had to have notarized, and we began by completing the required forms.
Made appropriate entry in my (new) Airframe log book, and then we moved
to the inspection. Gary's primary focus and concern was the flight
controls. we began inside of the cockpit, and then proceeded outside to
all of the flight surfaces and connections. His next stop was the
firewall forward area. I pointed out to him one item I noticed
yesterday, where I hadn't sealed (RTV) a firewall passthrough. Gary
spent about 1 1/2 hours on the inspection, and didn't note any squawks.
We moved back to finalize the A/W certificate, and went through the Ops
Limitations. Gary gave me a REALLY big Phase 1 test area. Essentially
DVT to Kingman, to Laughlin (Colorado River) down the river to Parker
then SouthEast all the way to Casa Grande, then back west of PHX
(Goodyear, Glendale) and back to DVT. Gary helped walk me through the
repairmans cert application, and then handed me the A/W cert and the Ops
Lim and made the official entry in the Airframe logbook.
1st flight will occur as soon as the FAA sends my medical. My AME said
to expect May1 :'(
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Final%20Assembly/slides/DSC07403.html
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done............ period!
http://deemsrv10.com/
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Hemostats and a tapered punch are hard to beat.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Adel Pliers
I use a small pair of hemostats to hold the andel clamp closed. You can
usually pick them up at a flea market of fly mart for a couple of bucks.
Larry Rosen
johngoodman wrote:
>
> Has anybody tried out these Adel Clamp Pliers from Wicks? If so, are they
worth the money?
>
>
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=17313~subid=1212
3/index.html
>
> John
>
> --------
> #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started.
> N711JG reserved
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233494#233494
>
>
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