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1. 05:49 AM - Real airplanes fly 24 volts (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
2. 05:59 AM - Re: Real airplanes fly 24 volts (Kelly McMullen)
3. 06:02 AM - Re: 24 Volt Electrical System (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
4. 08:39 AM - Re: 24 Volt Electrical System (Robin Marks)
5. 10:21 AM - Remembrance of Mark Ritter (John Cox)
6. 01:23 PM - Re: Adel Pliers (John Cox)
7. 01:53 PM - Aviation Consumer (BrianNC)
8. 02:05 PM - Re: 24 Volt Electrical System (johngoodman)
9. 02:05 PM - Re: Adel Pliers (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
10. 02:11 PM - More LOP (BrianNC)
11. 02:14 PM - Re: 24 Volt Electrical System (Mike Much)
12. 02:14 PM - Re: More LOP (BrianNC)
13. 02:14 PM - Re: Aviation Consumer On LOP (BrianNC)
14. 02:16 PM - Re: Advance pilot seminar (lean of peak) (BrianNC)
15. 02:16 PM - Re: Advance pilot seminar (lean of peak) (BrianNC)
16. 02:30 PM - Re: Advance pilot seminar (lean of peak) (BrianNC)
17. 02:41 PM - Re: Advance pilot seminar (lean of peak) (BrianNC)
18. 02:44 PM - Re: Advance pilot seminar (lean of peak) (BrianNC)
19. 03:28 PM - Re: Re: 24 Volt Electrical System (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
20. 03:40 PM - Re: 24 Volt Electrical System (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
21. 05:06 PM - FW: Remembrance of Mark Ritter (david b. jones)
22. 08:01 PM - Re: Top COMM antenna (Marcus Cooper)
23. 08:01 PM - Re: Adel Pliers (Marcus Cooper)
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| Subject: | Real airplanes fly 24 volts |
We've got a 24 volt system, like all REAL airplanes! : )
Or like people who are pushed that way by their avionics.
But it does make for fun poking around to try and find the appropriate
24 volt contactors, etc. . . .
TDT
40025
Tim Dawson-Townsend
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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| Subject: | Re: Real airplanes fly 24 volts |
Ah yes, *those* real aircraft that require real aircraft parts at unreal
pricing with unreal supply chains. 8-)
Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote:
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> We've got a 24 volt system, like all REAL airplanes! : )
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> Or like people who are pushed that way by their avionics.
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> But it does make for fun poking around to try and find the appropriate
> 24 volt contactors, etc. . . .
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> TDT
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> 40025
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> Tim Dawson-Townsend
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> tdt@aurora.aero <mailto:tdt@aurora.aero>
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> 617-500-4812 (office)
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| Subject: | Re: 24 Volt Electrical System |
I will be running dual Oddessy batteries for both=C2-12 and 24 volts in m
y 10.=C2- Same thing I did on the Cozy MKIV.=C2- I want 24V cranking th
e engine and=C2-then have the flexibility to mix 12/24 volt as needed.=C2
- With the batteries wired=C2-together, I tapped the buss bar that conn
ects them for my 12V supply.=C2- Some state that one of the batteries wil
l drain first and the other will become a donner battery, killing the batte
ry in short order.=C2- Has not happened yet in the Cozy.=C2- There is a
battery equalizer that will solve the problem but it costs about $275 that
will prevent this. .=C2- One guy just flip-flops his batteries at every
oil change and states he never has had any problems.=C2- I made a very sl
ight modification to the Van's battery tray in the kit and dual Oddessy's f
it perfectly.=C2- I also added a second master solenoid.=C2- One for 12
volts and the other for 24.=C2- My engine is currently set up for 12 vol
ts (its out of a Maule) so I will need to swap out the starter and alternat
or.
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From: "Dave Fritzsche (Building)" <fritzsch@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:37:47 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RV10-List: 24 Volt Electrical System
mo.com>
Are there any RV-10s that are running on a 24 volt electrical system?
Dave
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| Subject: | 24 Volt Electrical System |
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| Subject: | Remembrance of Mark Ritter |
Today is the One year anniversary of Mark Ritter's "Gone West" flight.
Mark was a valued contributor on this list and we shared several
memorable discussions "offline" over the months and years. Attached is
a picture of Mark's Scheme Designer paint job. Each loss to our group
is a painful one, but I reflect on the valued lesson Mark left behind
for me. Friends share observations with friends.
As a retired Pilot Examiner, I without fail would include an Oral
question for both Private and Commercial applicants from FAR 61.53 and
often would query the use of "Over the Counter" medications. Years
later the FAA expanded our responsibility to include a Task from the
Area of Operations in the PTS, of Preflight Preparation. I would always
delve into Aeromedical Factors. Applicants knew they would be getting
questions on the recognition and remediation on hypoxia and
hyperventilation. Sometimes a distracter to induce potential vertigo
would be included. Today, in the Air Carrier Maintenance arena - Human
Factors are the big FAA push. Fatigue/Distractions/Complacency/the list
goes on to make up the Dirty Dozen.
Mark was not my first friend to be lost to potential medical issues.
Another pilot Bob McCann "Went West" making a similar solo flight in
connection to that simple "Pilot's Pancake Breakfast" just an hour away.
The Search and Rescue effort brought scores of pilots into the mix with
the CAP (and a topic I won't go into here). We each benefit by our
candid discussion with friends when we observe something out of the
ordinary then do something more than silent observation. We each carry
the financial cost of increased insurance rates after their passing.
Let's all hope that Mark's passing is the beginning of a long and
extended period of Safe Flights in the RV-10 that are devoid of medical
issues.
I remember an incident in A&P school where another friend, Alan Johnson
(retired AF crew chief) seemed just a bit unusually stresses over our
Bendix Pressure Carb Fuel Metering Class. I let Alan know repeatedly
that he just did not look his Rosey self. Green and Grey with
perspiration were not typical school colors. Alan reluctantly visited a
doctor after class that day. Seems his smoking, drinking and sedentary
lifestyle required an immediate quadruple bypass. Although Alan left
that class and the program, the years have passed gently. Today Alan can
be found on the ramp of airports in Arizona with his Canon capturing the
aircraft he loves.
Let's spend a minute, think of Mark and others who have passed and
reflect on the value of sharing our observations.
I don't have an answer for you on those who pilots who cognitively fly
into bad weather or disregard clear and concise information to the
contrary in attempting flight with known aircraft problems. May 2009...
and Beyond continue the pattern... and that Mark be our last loss. I
know we're are all one day closer. <<Mark Ritter N410MR.pdf>>
John Cox
#600
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Here are the shots I promised. One is a range of cheapo tools, another
is a modified Canon Plug pliers, another is the use of the ole busted
hacksaw blade. They should be self explanatory. They are designed to
work in Tight spaces to which the really cool $86 pair will not fit.
The blade is grooved with a 3" Harbor Freight cutoff wheel to accept 6,8
or 10-32 Adel Screws and MS attachment nuts. Your fingertips will love
you.
John
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Adel Pliers
No. However a simple piece of hacksaw blade and your pencil grinder can
make an Adel lock tool which is easy to install, easy to remove and just
plain slick. Discarded Medical Forceps work on the cheap.
If you are doing triple stacked or quad stacked Adels for a living then
maybe the tool will prove itself.
John Cox
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of johngoodman
Sent: Fri 3/6/2009 11:39 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Adel Pliers
<johngoodman@earthlink.net>
Has anybody tried out these Adel Clamp Pliers from Wicks? If so, are
they worth the money?
John
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| Subject: | Aviation Consumer |
Here is a quote from an Aviation Consumer article reprinted at Avweb:
As far as we're concerned, the data that indicates that correctly executed lean-of-peak
operation both saves fuel and lowers EGTs and CHTs IS INARGUABLE, and
people who claim otherwise don't know what they're talking about. We can't make
it any plainer than this.
http://www.avweb.com/news/airman/are_you_wasting_avgas_196816-1.html
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234234#234234
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| Subject: | Re: 24 Volt Electrical System |
David,
I assume you are using two PC680s?
davidsoutpost(at)comcast. wrote:
> I will be running dual Oddessy batteries for both 12 and 24 volts in my 10. Same
thing I did on the Cozy MKIV. I want 24V cranking the engine and then have
the flexibility to mix 12/24 volt as needed. With the batteries wired together,
I tapped the buss bar that connects them for my 12V supply. Some state that
one of the batteries will drain first and the other will become a donner battery,
killing the battery in short order. Has not happened yet in the Cozy.
There is a battery equalizer that will solve the problem but it costs about
$275 that will prevent this. . One guy just flip-flops his batteries at every
oil change and states he never has had any problems. I made a very slight modification
to the Van's battery tray in the kit and dual Oddessy's fit perfectly.
I also added a second master solenoid. One for 12 volts and the other for
24. My engine is currently set up for 12 volts (its out of a Maule) so I will
need to swap out the starter and alternator.
>
> ---
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I actually bought a set of Adel Pliers at OSH a couple years ago and
after a couple times using them I went back to the fly market/Harbor
Freight hemostats and needle nose vise grips as shown in John's pix.
Bob
N442PM (flying)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Adel Pliers
Here are the shots I promised. One is a range of cheapo tools, another
is a modified Canon Plug pliers, another is the use of the ole busted
hacksaw blade. They should be self explanatory. They are designed to
work in Tight spaces to which the really cool $86 pair will not fit.
The blade is grooved with a 3" Harbor Freight cutoff wheel to accept 6,8
or 10-32 Adel Screws and MS attachment nuts. Your fingertips will love
you.
John
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Adel Pliers
No. However a simple piece of hacksaw blade and your pencil grinder can
make an Adel lock tool which is easy to install, easy to remove and just
plain slick. Discarded Medical Forceps work on the cheap.
If you are doing triple stacked or quad stacked Adels for a living then
maybe the tool will prove itself.
John Cox
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of johngoodman
Sent: Fri 3/6/2009 11:39 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Adel Pliers
<johngoodman@earthlink.net>
Has anybody tried out these Adel Clamp Pliers from Wicks? If so, are
they worth the money?
John
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N711JG reserved
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Here are a few more articles:
Why does proper leaning procedure seem to be such a confusing subject for pilots
when it's so darn easy?
http://www.avweb.com/news/savvyaviator/savvy_aviator_59_egt_cht_and_leaning_198162-1.html
Here's an amazing number: Merely by operating engines lean of peak, aircraft owners
are saving themselves more than $30 million a year. That's a big number.
Will Lycoming ever embrace the idea?
http://www.avweb.com/blogs/insider/AVwebInsiderBlog_TheGreatLeaningWar_198048-1.html
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| Subject: | Re: 24 Volt Electrical System |
Doesn't the 24V avionics cost more but do the same as 12V?
I do not know?
On 3/11/09, Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote:
> Interesting idea (dual 12/24) I wish I had considered it during my build.
> The G900X can be set up for 12V but the dual 18W COMMs require 24V so
> without knowing of another option I had to buy two Very Heavy and Very
> Expensive up converters. I hated adding that extra weight & bulk to my
> plane. I do however like the power & clarity of the Garmin 18W comms.
>
>
> Robin
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> davidsoutpost@comcast.net
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:02 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: 24 Volt Electrical System
>
>
> I will be running dual Oddessy batteries for both 12 and 24 volts in my 10.
> Same thing I did on the Cozy MKIV. I want 24V cranking the engine and then
> have the flexibility to mix 12/24 volt as needed. With the batteries wired
> together, I tapped the buss bar that connects them for my 12V supply. Some
> state that one of the batteries will drain first and the other will become a
> donner battery, killing the battery in short order. Has not happened yet in
> the Cozy. There is a battery equalizer that will solve the problem but it
> costs about $275 that will prevent this. . One guy just flip-flops his
> batteries at every oil change and states he never has had any problems. I
> made a very slight modification to the Van's battery tray in the kit and
> dual Oddessy's fit perfectly. I also added a second master solenoid. One
> for 12 volts and the other for 24. My engine is currently set up for 12
> volts (its out of a Maule) so I will need to swap out the starter and
> alternator.
>
>
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This was supposed to be in reply in another thread but I started a topic by accident.
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| Subject: | Re: Aviation Consumer On LOP |
This was supposed to be in reply in another thread but I started a topic by accident.
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| Subject: | Re: Advance pilot seminar (lean of peak) |
Here is a quote from an Aviation Consumer article reprinted at Avweb:
As far as we're concerned, the data that indicates that correctly executed lean-of-peak
operation both saves fuel and lowers EGTs and CHTs IS INARGUABLE, and
people who claim otherwise don't know what they're talking about. We can't make
it any plainer than this.
http://www.avweb.com/news/airman/are_you_wasting_avgas_196816-1.html
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| Subject: | Re: Advance pilot seminar (lean of peak) |
Here are a few more articles:
Why does proper leaning procedure seem to be such a confusing subject for pilots
when it's so darn easy?
http://www.avweb.com/news/savvyaviator/savvy_aviator_59_egt_cht_and_leaning_198162-1.html
Here's an amazing number: Merely by operating engines lean of peak, aircraft owners
are saving themselves more than $30 million a year. That's a big number.
Will Lycoming ever embrace the idea?
http://www.avweb.com/blogs/insider/AVwebInsiderBlog_TheGreatLeaningWar_198048-1.html
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| Subject: | Re: Advance pilot seminar (lean of peak) |
And here are 3 articles from John Deakin of Advanced Pilot Seminars.
Where Should I Run My Engine? (Part 1)
http://www.avweb.com/news/pelican/182179-1.html
Where Should I Run My Engine? (Part 2 The Climb)
http://www.avweb.com/news/pelican/182176-1.html
Where Should I Run My Engine? (Part 3 -- Cruise)
http://www.avweb.com/news/pelican/182583-1.html
Where Should I Run My Engine? (Part 4 -- Descent)
http://www.avweb.com/news/pelican/183094-1.html
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| Subject: | Re: Advance pilot seminar (lean of peak) |
Here is a Power Point from APS describing leaning procedures. If you have Power
Point it will open up in it. If not, Google Power Point Viewer and you can find
a file from Microsoft that will let you view it.
And no, I don't work for APS. Just trying to bust the myth that LOP is bad.
http://www.avweb.com/other/Leaning.pps
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| Subject: | Re: Advance pilot seminar (lean of peak) |
And a related article:
Pelican's Perch #84: Don't Set Mixture with CHT
http://www.avweb.com/news/pelican/pelicans_perch_84_mixture_cht_194816-1.html
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| Subject: | Re: 24 Volt Electrical System |
Yes,,,dual 680's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:04:36 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RV10-List: Re: 24 Volt Electrical System
David,
I assume you are using two PC680s?
davidsoutpost(at)comcast. wrote:
> I will be running dual Oddessy batteries for both 12 and 24 volts in my 1
0.=C3=AF=C2=C2=BD Same thing I did on the Cozy MKIV. =C2-I want 24V cr
anking the engine and then have the flexibility to mix 12/24 volt as needed
. =C2-With the batteries wired together, I tapped the buss bar that conne
cts them for my 12V supply. =C2-Some state that one of the batteries will
drain first and the other will become a donner battery, killing the batter
y in short order. =C2-Has not happened yet in the Cozy. =C2-There is a
battery equalizer that will solve the problem but it costs about $275 that
will prevent this. . =C2-One guy just flip-flops his batteries at every o
il change and states he never has had any problems. =C2-I made a very sli
ght modification to the Van's battery tray in the kit and dual Oddessy's fi
t perfectly. =C2-I also added a second master solenoid. =C2-One for 12
volts and the other for 24. =C2-My engine is currently set up for 12 volt
s (its out of a Maule) so I will need to swap out the starter and alternato
r.
>
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| Subject: | Re: 24 Volt Electrical System |
I am not sure either but if there is a difference, I think that it would be
small,,,,certainly not enough to change=C2- my plans.=C2-=C2- This w
ill give=C2-me a lot of flexibility in my electrical system.=C2- Worked
great in the Cozy and no messing with=C2-voltage converters.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Much" <mkmuch@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:13:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: RV10-List: 24 Volt Electrical System
Doesn't the 24V avionics cost more but do the same as 12V?
I do not know?
On 3/11/09, Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote:
> Interesting idea (dual 12/24) I wish I had considered it during my build.
> The G900X can be set up for 12V but the dual 18W COMM=99s require 2
4V so
> without knowing of another option I had to buy two Very Heavy and Very
> Expensive up converters. I hated adding that extra weight & bulk to my
> plane. I do however like the power & clarity of the Garmin 18W comms.
>
>
>
> Robin
>
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> davidsoutpost@comcast.net
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:02 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: 24 Volt Electrical System
>
>
>
> I will be running dual Oddessy batteries for both 12 and 24 volts in my 1
0.
> Same thing I did on the Cozy MKIV. =C2-I want 24V cranking the engine a
nd then
> have the flexibility to mix 12/24 volt as needed. =C2-With the batterie
s wired
> together, I tapped the buss bar that connects them for my 12V supply. =C2
-Some
> state that one of the batteries will drain first and the other will becom
e a
> donner battery, killing the battery in short order. =C2-Has not happene
d yet in
> the Cozy. =C2-There is a battery equalizer that will solve the problem
but it
> costs about $275 that will prevent this. . =C2-One guy just flip-flops
his
> batteries at every oil change and states he never has had any problems.
=C2-I
> made a very slight modification to the Van's battery tray in the kit and
> dual Oddessy's fit perfectly. =C2-I also added a second master solenoid
. =C2-One
> for 12 volts and the other for 24. =C2-My engine is currently set up fo
r 12
> volts (its out of a Maule) so I will need to swap out the starter and
> alternator.
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | FW: Remembrance of Mark Ritter |
-----Original Message-----
From: david b. jones [mailto:d.j.goneflyin@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:51 PM
Subject: Remembrance of Mark Ritter
Hello my fellow RV-10 owners,
I looked for several years for a paint scheme for my RV-10. I
thought
well maybe I could take a partial design from several
Airplanes that I liked and put something together. Mark Ritter put a
picture
of his RV-10 on the internet one time and I fell
In love with his paint job. I called Mark and complimented him of a
terrific
paint scheme. My first question was would he give
Me permission to copy it. Mark was very gracious and said OK. After
having
mine painted at GLO-Custom in North Dallas, I sent Mark
Several pictures and he enjoyed seeing them . Mark was a class person
and
someone I will remember every time I open my hangar doors.
People like Mark don't come along very often and I appreciated
seeing
him remembered.
Sincerely,
David Jones
N331DJ
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| Subject: | Top COMM antenna |
I honestly don't recall the length, but I ordered the "low drag" antenna for
$7 from Vans (Bob Archer???). I followed the directions closely so it is
whatever was specified. Best bang for the buck I've ever achieved with
avionics!
I've attached some pictures, there's not too much to it.
Marcus
40286
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Top COMM antenna
Marcus,
How long is your tape? I did mine according to the instructions and it
doesn't work well at all. I had a bunch of Ham radio guys come out and look
at it - they put a meter on it and told me it is electrically too short for
the frequencies I was trying to use.
Thanks,
Ralph
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Top COMM antenna
>
> Michael,
> I wouldn't give up on the tape antenna just yet. I use one for my 2nd
> comm radio and it works great. My bent whip on the bottom goes to the
> primary radio, but I've had great luck with the tape and use it to talk to
> ground control and Unicom radios without any issues. Plus it's the
> cheapest
> game in town by a long shot. I ran the comm cord up the cabin support
> tube
> and tie the shield to the mount screw and the center to the tape with one
> piece of fiberglass to cover the tape and hold it in place.
>
> Marcus
> Just rolled over 400 hours.
>
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Wellenzohn
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:03 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Top COMM antenna
>
> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I want to mount a com antenna on top.
> The tape comm antenna I understand is not an option for the -10.
>
> Now COMMANT has a veriation of models:
> Which one can you suggest?
>
> http://www.comant.com/showproduct.aspx?CN=44&SCN=59
>
> Looking forward for your thoughts.
>
> Cheers
> Michael
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234006#234006
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>
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Bob,
Where we you when I started down this life of building 4 airplanes ago?!
Great pictures, nothing beats a simple/cheap approach. I'll certainly use
these a lot on my next project.
Thanks,
Marcus
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US
SSA)
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Adel Pliers
I actually bought a set of Adel Pliers at OSH a couple years ago and after a
couple times using them I went back to the fly market/Harbor Freight
hemostats and needle nose vise grips as shown in John's pix.
Bob
N442PM (flying)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Adel Pliers
Here are the shots I promised. One is a range of cheapo tools, another is a
modified Canon Plug pliers, another is the use of the ole busted hacksaw
blade. They should be self explanatory. They are designed to work in Tight
spaces to which the really cool $86 pair will not fit. The blade is grooved
with a 3" Harbor Freight cutoff wheel to accept 6,8 or 10-32 Adel Screws and
MS attachment nuts. Your fingertips will love you.
John
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Adel Pliers
No. However a simple piece of hacksaw blade and your pencil grinder can
make an Adel lock tool which is easy to install, easy to remove and just
plain slick. Discarded Medical Forceps work on the cheap.
If you are doing triple stacked or quad stacked Adels for a living then
maybe the tool will prove itself.
John Cox
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of johngoodman
Sent: Fri 3/6/2009 11:39 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Adel Pliers
Has anybody tried out these Adel Clamp Pliers from Wicks? If so, are they
worth the money?
John
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