---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/14/09: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:10 AM - Re: RV -10 Partner Wanted Final Assembly NJ (fdombroski) 2. 08:45 AM - Re: Re: Top COMM antenna (Marcus Cooper) 3. 10:40 AM - Repo Man (Robin Marks) 4. 03:26 PM - Report on cabin cover and rear window install (Bob-tcw) 5. 04:29 PM - W-1013A aileron hinge brackets warped (Bill and Tami Britton) 6. 05:09 PM - Re: W-1013A aileron hinge brackets warped (Seano) 7. 05:42 PM - Re: W-1013A aileron hinge brackets warped (Bob-tcw) 8. 05:51 PM - Re: W-1013A aileron hinge brackets warped (Ron B.) 9. 06:33 PM - RV-10 emp kit - finished - for sale (Simon Barber) 10. 07:36 PM - Re: W-1013A aileron hinge brackets warped (Tim Olson) 11. 10:34 PM - Drilling into stainless aileron counterbalance (Andrew Johnson) 12. 11:13 PM - Re: Drilling into stainless aileron counterbalance (Don McDonald) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:35 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV -10 Partner Wanted Final Assembly NJ From: "fdombroski" I Have added a couple of Photos. Thanks -------- Frank Dombroski RV-10 N46WD final assembly RV-8 N84FD final assembly N40 Sky Manor Airport Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234550#234550 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/26jan09_frank_finish_fiberglass_008_194.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/30jan09fandj_002_183.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/26jan09_frank_finish_fiberglass_001_958.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:35 AM PST US From: "Marcus Cooper" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Top COMM antenna Unfortunately I cannot speak to the technical questions that have been raised, and are pretty good actually. However, I can attest that it works great and I haven't had any issues. My thought process was to give it a try, the price is negligible and I figured if it worked great, if not then you can't see it under the fabric on the cabin roof anyway so no real loss. Marcus Do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Wellenzohn Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:36 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Top COMM antenna Marcus, based on what I know and what was also mentioned before the com antenna needs to be as much vertical as possible. So how does your installation on the cabin ceiling work then? Michael -------- RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234318#234318 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:39 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Repo Man From: "Robin Marks" In today's NY Times. This is one benefit to pay as you build. Robin http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/14/business/14repo.html?pagewanted=1&th&e mc=th ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:26:23 PM PST US From: "Bob-tcw" Subject: RV10-List: Report on cabin cover and rear window install The windows are in and the cabin cover is installed ! Last week I asked some questions about installing the rear windows before installing the cabin cover. After the research was done I decided that installing the windows with the cabin cover off the fuselage was the way I would do it. I also built a custom overhead console into the canopy to bring fresh air in from overhead along with some map lighting. My design for the overhead console include no access cover for the door hinges as well as complete integration of the center window strut mounting point. So some important questions had to be answered about this construction technique. Well I am now happy to say that I can answer them. 1) Yes you can bed the nuts and washers for the door hinges in an epoxy/structural filler mix so that the hinges can be mounted blindly. But make sure that you back the screws out shortly after the epoxy cures to ensure you haven't got any epoxy on the screw threads. 2) Yes you can mount the front window strut to the canopy cover and mold it into an overhead console before installing the canopy cover permanently, however you must measure carefully to ensure it is at the proper angle, otherwise it wont go together. 3) In my opinion, putting the windows in with the cabin cover off the fuselage is the way to go. I was able to rotate the cover so gravity did most of the work holding the window in. Additionally, the dripping of weld-on on the inside went straight to the floor and not all over the inside of the window. 4) When putting the cabin cover on I used some wood blocks of various thicknesses sitting of the door sills to progressively low the canopy into place, this allowed me to finesse the front strut into the fuselage mounting hole. This worked like a charm. It also allowed me to put down epoxy/flox mix on the door sill and tank sealant on the rear rivet line with the canopy just 3/4" about its final resting spot, this made handling and fitting a non-event. So here's a link to my web album showing the progress. The last 20 or so pictures shows the details. http://picasaweb.google.com/rcnewman64/FiberglassWork02?feat=directlink Bob Newman #40176 www.tcwtech.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:29:19 PM PST US From: "Bill and Tami Britton" Subject: RV10-List: W-1013A aileron hinge brackets warped I started work on the rear wing spars today and noticed that the w-1013a aileron hinge brackets are warped. With them lying flat on the table there's 1/16-3/32" gap in the center off the table on all 4 of them. Has anybody else run into this problem. Looks like it might have happened when they were "stamped" out. Obviously I'll wait 'til monday and see what Vans has to say but does anybody else have any thoughts on this. Surely it's not wise to use them like this, or is it??? Anyhow, pictures are attached. Thanks in advance, Bill Britton RV-10 #40137 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:55 PM PST US From: "Seano" Subject: Re: RV10-List: W-1013A aileron hinge brackets warped I would say, treat it as the horizontal tabs that stick up from the tailcone, beat on them in a vice with a rubber mallet to straighten them. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill and Tami Britton To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:10 PM Subject: RV10-List: W-1013A aileron hinge brackets warped I started work on the rear wing spars today and noticed that the w-1013a aileron hinge brackets are warped. With them lying flat on the table there's 1/16-3/32" gap in the center off the table on all 4 of them. Has anybody else run into this problem. Looks like it might have happened when they were "stamped" out. Obviously I'll wait 'til monday and see what Vans has to say but does anybody else have any thoughts on this. Surely it's not wise to use them like this, or is it??? Anyhow, pictures are attached. Thanks in advance, Bill Britton RV-10 #40137 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:09 PM PST US From: "Bob-tcw" Subject: Re: RV10-List: W-1013A aileron hinge brackets warped I vaguely remember the same issue (I'm kit #40176), I reasonably sure I "flatened" them back out with a little vise and clamp action. -Bob Newman ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill and Tami Britton To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:10 PM Subject: RV10-List: W-1013A aileron hinge brackets warped I started work on the rear wing spars today and noticed that the w-1013a aileron hinge brackets are warped. With them lying flat on the table there's 1/16-3/32" gap in the center off the table on all 4 of them. Has anybody else run into this problem. Looks like it might have happened when they were "stamped" out. Obviously I'll wait 'til monday and see what Vans has to say but does anybody else have any thoughts on this. Surely it's not wise to use them like this, or is it??? Anyhow, pictures are attached. Thanks in advance, Bill Britton RV-10 #40137 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:16 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: W-1013A aileron hinge brackets warped From: "Ron B." Mine were like your's, I straightened them. Ron Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234600#234600 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:52 PM PST US From: Simon Barber Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 emp kit - finished - for sale I have purchased another kit, so have my completed emp kit for sale. Workmanship is excellent - 1 small ding in one wing from storage hiccup - easy to fill. Save yourself 250 hours by buying this kit already done. Contact me for more details and photos. It's in Berkeley, CA. Asking $4900 or best offer. Simon ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:36:10 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: W-1013A aileron hinge brackets warped Yep, perfectly normal. Just flatten them back out. They'll straighten when you rivet them to the other piece anyway. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Bill and Tami Britton wrote: > I started work on the rear wing spars today and noticed that the w-1013a > aileron hinge brackets are warped. With them lying flat on the table > there's 1/16-3/32" gap in the center off the table on all 4 of them. > Has anybody else run into this problem. Looks like it might have > happened when they were "stamped" out. Obviously I'll wait 'til monday > and see what Vans has to say but does anybody else have any thoughts on > this. Surely it's not wise to use them like this, or is it??? > > Anyhow, pictures are attached. > > Thanks in advance, > Bill Britton > RV-10 #40137 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:34:40 PM PST US From: "Andrew Johnson" Subject: RV10-List: Drilling into stainless aileron counterbalance I'm wearing out my #40 drill bits pretty quickly trying to drill the #40 holes between the skin and stainless counterbalance. Any hints as to what type of drill bit I should get in order to knock this out quicker would be great. Thanks. Andy Johnson Poquoson, VA ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:13:04 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Drilling into stainless aileron counterbalance Make sure you're drilling with enough pressure... especially through stainl ess and steel....- going to slow will burn the drill up fast.- Put the pedal to the metal!- Don --- On Sat, 3/14/09, Andrew Johnson wrote: From: Andrew Johnson Subject: RV10-List: Drilling into stainless aileron counterbalance I'm wearing out my #40 drill bits pretty quickly trying to drill the #40 ho les between the skin and stainless counterbalance.- Any hints as to what type of drill bit I should get in order to knock this out quicker would be great.- Thanks. 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