---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/17/09: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:08 AM - 2nd Brake lining replacement (Tim Olson) 2. 09:39 AM - Fun with Andair valve and scat tube (Rob Kochman) 3. 10:04 AM - Re: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube (Bob and Karen Brown) 4. 02:22 PM - 3 degree reflex (hsdexo) 5. 02:37 PM - Re: 3 degree reflex (Steve Mills) 6. 02:37 PM - Re: 3 degree reflex (David Hertner) 7. 06:27 PM - Re: RV10-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 03/16/09 (Roxanne and Mike Lefever) 8. 06:43 PM - Re: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube (Deems Davis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:17 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: 2nd Brake lining replacement This weekend I replaced my brake linings for the 2nd time. The 1st set lasted 170 hours, the 2nd went about 270. With even more self-discipline I would think I could get over 300, but I wouldn't expect that on your first set, for sure. I also just ordered my replacement spares for the next time around, and decided to add to my original write-up on brake replacement. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20061104/index.html Towards the bottom of the page you can find more info I compiled regarding spare brake parts, and an update about Rapco replacement linings. (Basically the aren't making them yet, and may never...or may take a long time if they decide to) Anyway, there is more info there for you all that may help some day. I also re-balanced my tires and found that they had stayed about the same as when I previously balanced them. I just adjusted them very slightly. The new tires are wearing pretty well. At 115 hours or so on these retreads, one tire looks really good. The other has a flat spot that is pilot induced, and is wearing a little heavier on the outside as before. Still a long way from flipping them though, so I'm guessing 300hrs per pair might be about right. -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:39:25 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube From: Rob Kochman I got creative with my fuel line rounting to leave some space under the valve to run the scat tube. See the picture here: http://kochman.net/N819K/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/img_5098.jpg My intent is to run the scat tube by the valve under the valve and rudder cable on the right side (left when looking at the picture). I will likely wrap the scat tube in the heat reflective material to minimize heat around the fuel lines. Note: the fuel line from the valve to filter is not shown in the picture, but goes straight down and thus should not interfere. Anyone see a problem with this? Thanks... -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Wings Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:04:54 AM PST US From: "Bob and Karen Brown" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube Looks like you've got more room than I do, I planned to make a fiberglass plenum going from one 2" scat to two 1" scat, then another plenum back into 2" on the aft side of the spar.for sure it would be more work, but I wasn't smart enough to turn one of the Andair fittings 90 degrees.mine are both vertical so I have less room to work with unless I go back in and totally replumb. From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:37 AM Subject: RV10-List: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube I got creative with my fuel line rounting to leave some space under the valve to run the scat tube. See the picture here: http://kochman.net/N819K/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/img_5098.jpg My intent is to run the scat tube by the valve under the valve and rudder cable on the right side (left when looking at the picture). I will likely wrap the scat tube in the heat reflective material to minimize heat around the fuel lines. Note: the fuel line from the valve to filter is not shown in the picture, but goes straight down and thus should not interfere. Anyone see a problem with this? Thanks... -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Wings Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:22:00 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: 3 degree reflex From: "hsdexo" Can anyone tell me where to find the information in the plans on how to set the 3 degree reflex or is it already set when you have the flaps retracted all the way. I can see no way to move them higher because of the bracket that holds the skin between the wing and the cabin. It also has a stopping point because of the overlapping wing skins. [Question] [Question] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235023#235023 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:37:03 PM PST US From: "Steve Mills" Subject: RE: RV10-List: 3 degree reflex Yes...All the way up is the reflex position Steve Mills N750SM (reserved) RV-10 40486 Slow-build Eggenfellner E-6TI Naperville, Illinois Finishing kit, engine install -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of hsdexo Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:21 PM Subject: RV10-List: 3 degree reflex Can anyone tell me where to find the information in the plans on how to set the 3 degree reflex or is it already set when you have the flaps retracted all the way. I can see no way to move them higher because of the bracket that holds the skin between the wing and the cabin. It also has a stopping point because of the overlapping wing skins. [Question] [Question] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235023#235023 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:37:48 PM PST US From: David Hertner Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 degree reflex All the way up is the 3 deg. reflex. Dave hsdexo wrote: > > Can anyone tell me where to find the information in the plans on how to set the 3 degree reflex or is it already set when you have the flaps retracted all the way. I can see no way to move them higher because of the bracket that holds the skin between the wing and the cabin. It also has a stopping point because of the overlapping wing skins. [Question] [Question] > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235023#235023 > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dave Hertner President Effectus AeroProducts Inc. Kit Aircraft Component Manufacturing Machining - Fabrication - Laser/Water-Jet Cutting Blog: http://www.kitaircraftmods.com Email: davehertner@effectus-aeroproducts.com Phone: (519) 933-2055 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:25 PM PST US From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV10-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 03/16/09 Problem with link? > Date: Mon=2C 16 Mar 2009 23:58:11 -0700 > From: rv10-list@matronics.com > To: rv10-list-digest@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 03/16/09 > > * > > ======================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== > > Today's complete RV10-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the RV10-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 09-03-16&Archive=RV10 > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&C hapter 09-03-16&Archive=RV10 > > > ======================== ======================= > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== ======================= > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > RV10-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 03/16/09: 3 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 08:17 AM - Re: Drilling into stainless aileron counterbalance (Eagerle e) > 2. 03:44 PM - Re: RV10-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 03/15/09 (Russell Ford) > 3. 09:04 PM - Effectus Aero Products=2C Axle spacer (John Gonzalez) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 ______________________________ _______ > > > Time: 08:17:03 AM PST US > From: "Eagerlee" > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Drilling into stainless aileron counterbalance > > Drilling stainless steel works best with high bit pressure and low > temperature=2C which requires lubrication and SLOW bit speed and if the > piece is thick enough=2C frequent cooling breaks. > > Paul Hahn > > ________________________________ Message 2 ______________________________ _______ > > > Time: 03:44:29 PM PST US > Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV10-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 03/15/09 > From: "Russell Ford" > > > I'll drop one off > > Russell Ford > Manager > Rice Research Australia Pty Ltd > ______________________________________ > "Old Coree" Conargo Road JERILDERIE | NSW 2716 > RMB 72 Jerilderie | NSW 2716 > T. +61 3 5886 1391 | M. 0429425798 > E. rford@rrapl.com | www.sunrice.com.au > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV10-List > Digest Server > Sent: Monday=2C 16 March 2009 5:59 PM > Subject: RV10-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 03/15/09 > > * > > ======================== ======================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== ======================== > > Today's complete RV10-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest > formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the RV10-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Cha > pter 09-03-15&Archive=RV10 > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&C hap > ter 09-03-15&Archive=RV10 > > > ======================== ====================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== ====================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > RV10-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sun 03/15/09: 6 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 02:34 AM - Re: Drilling into stainless aileron counterbalance > (doctornigel) > 2. 09:33 AM - Re: Drilling into stainless aileron counterbalance > (jim@CombsFive.Com) > 3. 11:47 AM - Re: Re: Drilling into stainless aileron > counterbalance (Dave Leikam) > 4. 02:18 PM - Re: Report on cabin cover and rear window install > (johngoodman) > 5. 03:13 PM - Re: Re: Report on cabin cover and rear window install > (Bob-tcw) > 6. 03:35 PM - Re: Re: Report on cabin cover and rear window install > (Robin Marks) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:34:33 AM PST US > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Drilling into stainless aileron counterbalance > From: "doctornigel" > > > Are you using Boelube? I only used it for the s.s. or really thick al. > parts. > And there is a difference in drill bits=2C some work better/longer. I > haven't tried > a bit sharpener yet=2C might be worth getting=2C I'm sure someone has and > will > chime in. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234641#234641 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:33:39 AM PST US > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Drilling into stainless aileron counterbalance > From: jim@CombsFive.Com > > > Find anything you can to lubricate the bit. Boelube=2C Lots of oil=2C > Cooltool=2C something. Then use lots of pressure and get the cutting > done. SS work hardens. If you get it hot=2C it gets harder=2C so > you have to be aggressive. > > Have fun. > > Jim Combs > N312F - flying! > > > Do not archive > --> RV10-List > message posted by: "Andrew Johnson" > > > I'm wearing out my #40 drill > bits pretty quickly trying to drill the #40 > holes between the skin > and stainless counterbalance. Any hints as to what > type of drill bit > I should get in order to knock this out quicker would be > great. > Thanks. > > Andy Johnson > Poquoson=2C VA > > > - The RV10-List Email Forum - > Features Navigator to browse > Un/Subscription=2C > Chat=2C FAQ=2C > --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > available via the Web Forums! > http://forums.matronics.com > - List Contribution Web Site - > generous support! > Admin. > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:47:31 AM PST US > From: "Dave Leikam" > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Drilling into stainless aileron > counterbalance > > > I have a Drill Doctor and it works really well to sharpen dull bits. > There > may be others which work as well. > > Dave Leikam > RV-10 #40496 > N89DA (Reserved) > Muskego=2C WI > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "doctornigel" > Sent: Sunday=2C March 15=2C 2009 4:32 AM > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Drilling into stainless aileron counterbalance > > > > > > Are you using Boelube? I only used it for the s.s. or really thick > al. > > parts. And there is a difference in drill bits=2C some work > better/longer. I > > haven't tried a bit sharpener yet=2C might be worth getting=2C I'm sure > > someone has and will chime in. > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234641#234641 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:18:21 PM PST US > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Report on cabin cover and rear window install > From: "johngoodman" > > > Bob=2C > Great photos! Thanks for sharing. I really like those modified ribs on > the sub-panel > you made - I did some snooping. Are you a machinist? That's awfully nice > work. > John > > -------- > #40572 QB Fuselage=2C wings finished. Finish Kit started. > N711JG reserved > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234731#234731 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:13:32 PM PST US > From: "Bob-tcw" > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Report on cabin cover and rear window > install > > > not exactly a machinist=2C but at least CNC proficient. Thanks > > -Bob > > Do Not Archive > > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:35:30 PM PST US > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Report on cabin cover and rear window > install > From: "Robin Marks" > > > Bob is just one example of the amazing skill & craftsmanship found on > this list. > > Robin > Still in paint... > Do Not Archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob-tcw > Sent: Sunday=2C March 15=2C 2009 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Report on cabin cover and rear window > install > > > not exactly a machinist=2C but at least CNC proficient. Thanks > > -Bob > > Do Not Archive > > > -- > Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus=2C anti-spam and > content filtering. > http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg > > > ________________________________ Message 3 ______________________________ _______ > > > Time: 09:04:38 PM PST US > From: John Gonzalez > Subject: RV10-List: Effectus Aero Products=2C Axle spacer > > > Mine came in the mail today so I haven't had the opportunity to instal th em > yet=2C but positive comment is in order. > Not only are these stainless steel pieces milled extremely well=2C but the > preload spacer's tight tolerance and fit are very=2C very close. With n o gr > ease on the threaded spacer=2C it is beautiful to feel how the two part s fi > t (Glide) together. This is no cheap piece of hardware and they would mor e > so belong on a very=2C very expensive telescope tripod or on tooling ma chin > ery. Better than anything the dental industry puts out. > Nice Job. Shame it is going to eventually get covered in grime. > JOhn G 409 Do Not Archive > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:35 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube you mean like this? : http://deemsrv10.com/album/Final%20Assembly/slides/DSC07074.html http://deemsrv10.com/album/Final%20Assembly/slides/DSC07075.html http://deemsrv10.com/album/Final%20Assembly/slides/DSC07076.html Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....finally!!!!! http://deemsrv10.com/ Bob and Karen Brown wrote: > > Looks like youve got more room than I do, I planned to make a > fiberglass plenum going from one 2 scat to two 1 scat, then another > plenum back into 2 on the aft side of the sparfor sure it would be > more work, but I wasnt smart enough to turn one of the Andair > fittings 90 degreesmine are both vertical so I have less room to work > with unless I go back in and totally replumb. > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rob Kochman > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:37 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube > > I got creative with my fuel line rounting to leave some space under > the valve to run the scat tube. See the picture here: > > http://kochman.net/N819K/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/img_5098.jpg > > My intent is to run the scat tube by the valve under the valve and > rudder cable on the right side (left when looking at the picture). I > will likely wrap the scat tube in the heat reflective material to > minimize heat around the fuel lines. Note: the fuel line from the > valve to filter is not shown in the picture, but goes straight down > and thus should not interfere. > > Anyone see a problem with this? 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