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     1. 09:06 AM - Re: Leaning and cruising (tom.on.the.road@juno.com)
     2. 09:07 AM - Re: Re: IO-540 for sale (Paul Grimstad)
     3. 09:10 AM - Re: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube (Jeff Carpenter)
     4. 10:16 AM - Re: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube (Bob and Karen Brown)
     5. 10:38 AM - Re: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube (Robin Marks)
     6. 11:18 AM - Re: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube - Jeff's Email (Tim Olson)
     7. 02:42 PM - XM Radio (David McNeill)
     8. 03:27 PM - Re: XM Radio (Seano)
     9. 03:47 PM - Re: Leaning and cruising (Miller John)
    10. 04:03 PM - Re: XM Radio (David McNeill)
    11. 04:12 PM - Re: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube - Jeff's Email (Jeff Carpenter)
    12. 05:06 PM - Re: XM Radio (Michael Kraus)
    13. 06:03 PM - Re: XM Radio (Perry, Phil)
    14. 07:44 PM - Gear leg faring hinges (John Gonzalez)
    15. 08:03 PM - Section 11 (Strasnuts)
    16. 08:11 PM - Re: XM Radio (Tim Olson)
    17. 09:53 PM - Re: Section 11 (pascal)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Leaning and cruising | 
      
      
      David,
      
      FYI, most of the numbers look pretty good but, the oil temp appears to be
      a little low.  Oil temps should ideally be in the 175-180 range (to
      evaporate the condensation from the oil).  Some guys who regularly fly
      (LOP, or in cooler climates) rig a flap (controllable from the cockpit)
      to limit the airflow across the oil cooler to regulate the oil
      temperature.
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| Subject:  | Re: IO-540 for sale | 
      
      Myron,
      
      Thanks for your interest.
      
      Great engine for the RV-10.
      
      Paul Grimstad,
      503-849-2123
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com>
      Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:02 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: Re: IO-540 for sale
      
      
      > 
      > I'm interested. 
      > Myron
      > Woxof@aol.com
      > 602 421-2868
      > 
      > --------
      > Myron Nelson
      > Mesa, AZ
      > Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235258#235258
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| Subject:  | Re: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube | 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fun with Andair valve and scat tube | 
      
      
      When I open some of these posts...I get nothing but a blank page.  What's
      up?
      
      Do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter
      Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:16 PM
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fun with Andair valve and scat tube | 
      
      
      Same here.
      Do Not Archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob and Karen
      Brown
      Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:12 AM
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube
      
      <bkbrown@minetfiber.com>
      
      When I open some of these posts...I get nothing but a blank page.
      What's
      up?
      
      Do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
      Carpenter
      Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:16 PM
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube - Jeff's Email | 
      
      I think Jeff's mail program (or perhaps the listserv) is mangling
      the mail attachment headers.  Not sure why....the attachment
      was named photo.jpg, but the headers weren't the same as a test
      email I did while getting the thing out for extraction.
      Anyway, here I think is his email, and the attached photo.
      
      Tim Olson
      do not archive
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------
      
      Jeff Carpenter wrote:
      After about 40' of practice bending, here's what I came up with (I  
      got very high marks from my Tech Counselor on this one)...
      
      Jeff Carpenter
      40304
      
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      I was using XM for weather on the trip March 14 to the Midwest. worked fine.
      ON the return March 19, the system failed to come up after takeoff from the
      Midwest. I stopped in TX to refresh and it worked again. Does anyone else
      have these problems? Why does the XM sight provide a self refresh
      transaction on the net? I am considering cancelling XM and using the Navworx
      box on the Chelton to get TIS and FIS info... I told XM that it is a safety
      of flight issue, in that expecting NEXRAD data when encountering adverse
      weather and being surprised, is not funny. Anybody else have this
      problem????
      
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      Sometimes our citation WSI fails the same way and then I notice they did 
      an upgrade or modification.  I have to reboot the system and then it 
      works fine.  Sometimes it needs 15 minutes of run time and then reboot.  
      It doesn't start working until the second flight.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: David McNeill 
        To: rv10-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:39 PM
        Subject: RV10-List: XM Radio
      
      
        I was using XM for weather on the trip March 14 to the Midwest. worked 
      fine. ON the return March 19, the system failed to come up after takeoff 
      from the Midwest. I stopped in TX to refresh and it worked again. Does 
      anyone else have these problems? Why does the XM sight provide a self 
      refresh transaction on the net? I am considering cancelling XM and using 
      the Navworx box on the Chelton to get TIS and FIS info... I told XM that 
      it is a safety of flight issue, in that expecting NEXRAD data when 
      encountering adverse weather and being surprised, is not funny. Anybody 
      else have this problem????
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Leaning and cruising | 
      
      
      I believe Jesse is correct.  Mine works the same way.
      
      grumpy
      N184JM
      
      do not archive
      
      On Mar 19, 2009, at 11:58 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
      
      >
      > Just a stab at it, but the 22/19 is probably from the calibrated  
      > floats and the 45.6 is probably from the totalizer (60 when full -  
      > 14.4 used = 45.6 remaining).  Totally separate systems.
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      > Jesse Saint
      > Saint Aviation, Inc.
      > jesse@saintaviation.com
      > Cell: 352-427-0285
      > Fax: 815-377-3694
      >
      > On Mar 19, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
      >
      >> <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
      >>
      >> Ok, now I am really confused... Why didn't you want to visit  
      >> California
      >> because of how the state voted? And when you took a family vote  
      >> only the
      >> senior vote counted. How very red state of you... (all in fun)
      >> David, my real question is how did you get CHT/EGT's to read on  
      >> both the
      >> Chelton & GRT?
      >> Also am I reading that right on the GRT there is a fuel left/right  
      >> that
      >> don't seem to add up to the total. 22/19 (L/R) 45.6 Total. I ask  
      >> because
      >> this is the 3rd or 4th time I noticed this on peoples EMS photo  
      >> posts.
      >> You have to love 9-10 GPH and 169 ground speed.
      >>
      >> Robin
      >>
      >>
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David  
      >> McNeill
      >> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 5:31 PM
      >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      >> Subject: RV10-List: Leaning and cruising
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Just some pictures of our trip to Branson using the lean function  
      >> of the
      >> GRT EFIS. Fuel flows were in the 9-10 gph range with power  
      >> percentages
      >> between 50-60%. I still haven't determined how fast it goes. The kids
      >> voted for Disneyland but as senior voting member I voted to spend  
      >> in a
      >> red state rather than Calieeforneea. While touring the shows with my
      >> brother in law, he related that although the Branson area had voted  
      >> to
      >> replace an aging bridge that our grand children will instead pickup  
      >> the
      >> bill whether or not they ever visit Branson.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
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      The problem seems to be with XM where a reboot does not solve the problem.
      ONLY A STOP AT AN FBO WITH INTERNET CONNECTION AND AN XM REFRESH TRANSACTION
      WHILE KEYING IN THE RADIO ID.. Is the TIS/FIS going to be any better? Too
      bad I did not install a STRIKEFINDER..
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
      Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:25 PM
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: XM Radio
      
      
      Sometimes our citation WSI fails the same way and then I notice they did an
      upgrade or modification.  I have to reboot the system and then it works
      fine.  Sometimes it needs 15 minutes of run time and then reboot.  It
      doesn't start working until the second flight.
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: David McNeill <mailto:dlm46007@cox.net>  
      Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:39 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: XM Radio
      
      I was using XM for weather on the trip March 14 to the Midwest. worked fine.
      ON the return March 19, the system failed to come up after takeoff from the
      Midwest. I stopped in TX to refresh and it worked again. Does anyone else
      have these problems? Why does the XM sight provide a self refresh
      transaction on the net? I am considering cancelling XM and using the Navworx
      box on the Chelton to get TIS and FIS info... I told XM that it is a safety
      of flight issue, in that expecting NEXRAD data when encountering adverse
      weather and being surprised, is not funny. Anybody else have this
      problem????
      
      
      href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com
      /Navigator?RV10-List
      
      href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
      
      href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fun with Andair valve and scat tube - Jeff's Email | 
      
      
      Thanks Tim...
      
      I was working with Matt on the attachment problem... I had taken the  
      picture with my iphone, e-mailed it back to my computer, and copied  
      it over to the thread reply... something along the way didn't like  
      all that.
      
      Jeff Carpenter
      
      
      On Mar 20, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
      
      > I think Jeff's mail program (or perhaps the listserv) is mangling
      > the mail attachment headers.  Not sure why....the attachment
      > was named photo.jpg, but the headers weren't the same as a test
      > email I did while getting the thing out for extraction.
      > Anyway, here I think is his email, and the attached photo.
      >
      > Tim Olson
      > do not archive
      >
      > -------------------------------------------------------------------
      >
      > Jeff Carpenter wrote:
      > After about 40' of practice bending, here's what I came up with (I  
      > got very high marks from my Tech Counselor on this one)...
      >
      > Jeff Carpenter
      > 40304<Jeffs_photo.jpg>
      
      
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      I have had XM weather for 3 years on my 396 and never have had any  
      issues....
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Mar 20, 2009, at 7:00 PM, "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
      
      > The problem seems to be with XM where a reboot does not solve the  
      > problem. ONLY A STOP AT AN FBO WITH INTERNET CONNECTION AND AN XM  
      > REFRESH TRANSACTION WHILE KEYING IN THE RADIO ID.. Is the TIS/FIS  
      > going to be any better? Too bad I did not install a STRIKEFINDER..
      >
      > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 
      > ] On Behalf Of Seano
      > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:25 PM
      > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: RV10-List: XM Radio
      >
      > Sometimes our citation WSI fails the same way and then I notice they  
      > did an upgrade or modification.  I have to reboot the system and  
      > then it works fine.  Sometimes it needs 15 minutes of run time and  
      > then reboot.  It doesn't start working until the second flight.
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: David McNeill
      > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:39 PM
      > Subject: RV10-List: XM Radio
      >
      > I was using XM for weather on the trip March 14 to the Midwest.  
      > worked fine. ON the return March 19, the system failed to come up  
      > after takeoff from the Midwest. I stopped in TX to refresh and it  
      > worked again. Does anyone else have these problems? Why does the XM  
      > sight provide a self refresh transaction on the net? I am  
      > considering cancelling XM and using the Navworx box on the Chelton  
      > to get TIS and FIS info... I told XM that it is a safety of flight  
      > issue, in that expecting NEXRAD data when encountering adverse  
      > weather and being surprised, is not funny. Anybody else have this  
      > problem????
      >
      > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
      > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
      > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// 
      > www.matronics.com/c
      >
      > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
      > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
      > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// 
      > www.matronics.com/c
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| Subject:  | Gear leg faring hinges | 
      
      
      The manual doesn't state which hinge material to use on the gear legs.
      I have my hinges installed on the firewall for the cowl to fuse junction=2C
       but I have not done the cowl halves yet. 
      I have (three=2C 3 footers) steel .063 steel hinges remaining and (three=2C
       6 footers) aluminum hinges left. Whats what???
      Thanks=2C
      John G. NO Not archive 
      
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      Just wondering if I should attach the horizontal and vertical or wait until the
      plane is closer to being finished.  Also should I wait for the fiberglass tips
      too.  I just finished my tailcone  and my wing is already here.  I would think
      Van's would put it off until the end if it was more convenient.
      
      --------
      A&P, ATP
      typed CE-525(s), CE-500
      RV-10 emp started!!!!
      N801VR reserved
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235463#235463
      
      
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      Is this on the AV-300's, the new receivers that you see these
      problems?  My old AV-100 was fairly spotty, but my AV-300 has
      been flawless.  Also, with WSI, once you're activated you don't have
      to go to any website to refresh.
      
      Some people may remember that last year I flew the NavWorx system
      on my Chelton.  It worked for both Wx and TIS-B right out of the box.
      The only problem is that FIS-B (ADS-B Weather) doesn't have great
      coverage all over the US yet.  Shortly I will be testing the box
      again to provide only traffic, so that I can maintain my WSI for
      Wx yet get both TIS-A and TIS-B traffic.  If that works, I'll
      be all set and will just use it that way until FIS-B coverage is
      all over the US.  You can cover so many miles in an RV-10 in a
      day that having only scattered regions where Wx is available
      wouldn't be any fun.
      Tim
      
      
      Seano wrote:
      > Sometimes our citation WSI fails the same way and then I notice they did 
      > an upgrade or modification.  I have to reboot the system and then it 
      > works fine.  Sometimes it needs 15 minutes of run time and then reboot.  
      > It doesn't start working until the second flight.
      > 
      >     ----- Original Message -----
      >     *From:* David McNeill <mailto:dlm46007@cox.net>
      >     *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
      >     *Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2009 3:39 PM
      >     *Subject:* RV10-List: XM Radio
      > 
      >     I was using XM for weather on the trip March 14 to the Midwest.
      >     worked fine. ON the return March 19, the system failed to come up
      >     after takeoff from the Midwest. I stopped in TX to refresh and it
      >     worked again. Does anyone else have these problems? Why does the XM
      >     sight provide a self refresh transaction on the net? I am
      >     considering cancelling XM and using the Navworx box on the Chelton
      >     to get TIS and FIS info... I told XM that it is a safety of flight
      >     issue, in that expecting NEXRAD data when encountering adverse
      >     weather and being surprised, is not funny. Anybody else have this
      >     problem????
      > 
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      > 
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      numerous ways to look at this.
      What I did was "built" the vertical and horizontal but did not match drill 
      the fiberglass parts. Now that I am at the finishing kit about to put the 
      gear on, I went back and finished off the fiberglass pieces with the added 
      experience of the canopy and doors.
      With that said here are the ways to look at this
      1) if you  have time waiting for the next kit and you're ready to do it, 
      finish off all but riveting on the fiberglass.
      2) If you have the next kit and are ready to keep going, come back to it 
      later , if it's in a garage do it before raising the fusellage up on the 
      gear
      3) You can do it at the hangar when all is done and you are finishing up 
      everything
      
      As far as convenient, you need to decide how accessible everything is now- 
      if you can readily work on the parts on a bench that would work, having it 
      on the fusellage worked better for me, height wise, having it on the gear 
      would have had it higher and been more difficult to reach as I did while it 
      was lower, plus at the end of the build I didn't see wanting to have to get 
      this done, one main reason is the fiberglass requires some work to make it 
      fit the way I want it and waiting for flox, plys, etc to cure is not 
      something I wanted to do at a airport that is 1 hour away from me.
      I have seen and talked to numerous builders each did section 11 and 12  at 
      different times, it really doesn't matter, do it when it's best for you.
      Pascal
      #40720
      
      --------------------------------------------------
      From: "Strasnuts" <sean@braunandco.com>
      Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 6:59 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: Section 11
      
      >
      > Just wondering if I should attach the horizontal and vertical or wait 
      > until the plane is closer to being finished.  Also should I wait for the 
      > fiberglass tips too.  I just finished my tailcone  and my wing is already 
      > here.  I would think Van's would put it off until the end if it was more 
      > convenient.
      >
      > --------
      > A&P, ATP
      > typed CE-525(s), CE-500
      > RV-10 emp started!!!!
      > N801VR reserved
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235463#235463
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
 
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