RV10-List Digest Archive

Sat 03/21/09


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:02 AM - Re: XM Radio (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     2. 05:21 AM - Re: XM Radio (David Maib)
     3. 05:35 AM - Re: XM Radio (David McNeill)
     4. 09:18 AM - Composite Class for RV-10s May 9-10 2009 (Dave Saylor)
     5. 11:28 AM - Re: XM Radio (Marcus Cooper)
     6. 11:31 AM - Re: Section 11 (Seano)
     7. 06:57 PM - Re: Gear leg faring hinges (tomhanaway)
     8. 07:24 PM - Re: XM Radio (David Schaefer)
     9. 08:21 PM - Re: Gear leg faring hinges (Ron B.)
    10. 10:08 PM - Wind screen fairing (Dave Leikam)
    11. 10:37 PM - Re: Wind screen fairing (Bob and Karen Brown)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:02:56 AM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: XM Radio
    I think the key in all this is it has nothing to do with the transmission but in how the receiving equipment is acting. If you are going in and essentially sending a reactivation signal, your equipment is probably the issue and not the XM signal. This is equivalent to blaming a web site provider for not being accessible if your ISP is down. I believe that Sirius/XM occasionally reauthorizes receives but the receiver shouldn't time out before receives a new authorization assuming it's used with some regularity. Either way I would complain to your hardware manufacturer first. My $0.02 Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* David McNeill <mailto:dlm46007@cox.net> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2009 3:39 PM > *Subject:* RV10-List: XM Radio > > I was using XM for weather on the trip March 14 to the Midwest. > worked fine. ON the return March 19, the system failed to come up > after takeoff from the Midwest. I stopped in TX to refresh and it > worked again. Does anyone else have these problems? Why does the XM > sight provide a self refresh transaction on the net? I am > considering cancelling XM and using the Navworx box on the Chelton > to get TIS and FIS info... I told XM that it is a safety of flight > issue, in that expecting NEXRAD data when encountering adverse > weather and being surprised, is not funny. Anybody else have this > problem???? >


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    Time: 05:21:40 AM PST US
    From: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: XM Radio
    When I was flying for a living, we had numerous instances where WSI would not refresh and we had to call WSI and have them do some kind of reboot. Then we would have to wait a half hour or so. This is NOT the case with the WSI I have in my RV with the AV-350. It has been flawless since initializing back in October. Don't know what the difference is, but I am pleased with the service. I am following Tim's work with the NavWorx system. Sounds pretty cool. David Maib 40559 On Mar 20, 2009, at 11:09 PM, Tim Olson wrote: Is this on the AV-300's, the new receivers that you see these problems? My old AV-100 was fairly spotty, but my AV-300 has been flawless. Also, with WSI, once you're activated you don't have to go to any website to refresh. Some people may remember that last year I flew the NavWorx system on my Chelton. It worked for both Wx and TIS-B right out of the box. The only problem is that FIS-B (ADS-B Weather) doesn't have great coverage all over the US yet. Shortly I will be testing the box again to provide only traffic, so that I can maintain my WSI for Wx yet get both TIS-A and TIS-B traffic. If that works, I'll be all set and will just use it that way until FIS-B coverage is all over the US. You can cover so many miles in an RV-10 in a day that having only scattered regions where Wx is available wouldn't be any fun. Tim Seano wrote: > Sometimes our citation WSI fails the same way and then I notice > they did an upgrade or modification. I have to reboot the system > and then it works fine. Sometimes it needs 15 minutes of run time > and then reboot. It doesn't start working until the second flight. > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* David McNeill <mailto:dlm46007@cox.net> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2009 3:39 PM > *Subject:* RV10-List: XM Radio > I was using XM for weather on the trip March 14 to the Midwest. > worked fine. ON the return March 19, the system failed to come up > after takeoff from the Midwest. I stopped in TX to refresh and it > worked again. Does anyone else have these problems? Why does > the XM > sight provide a self refresh transaction on the net? I am > considering cancelling XM and using the Navworx box on the Chelton > to get TIS and FIS info... I told XM that it is a safety of flight > issue, in that expecting NEXRAD data when encountering adverse > weather and being surprised, is not funny. Anybody else have this > problem???? > * > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http:// > www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > * > * > *


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    Time: 05:35:24 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: XM Radio
    If that is the case then the XM reauthorization should retry as the aircraft hardware is not ON 90+% of the time. Other XM receivers i.e. car radios have considerably more ON time than aircraft weather systems even though mine is ON whenever I am flying. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 4:59 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: XM Radio --> <rvbuilder@sausen.net> I think the key in all this is it has nothing to do with the transmission but in how the receiving equipment is acting. If you are going in and essentially sending a reactivation signal, your equipment is probably the issue and not the XM signal. This is equivalent to blaming a web site provider for not being accessible if your ISP is down. I believe that Sirius/XM occasionally reauthorizes receives but the receiver shouldn't time out before receives a new authorization assuming it's used with some regularity. Either way I would complain to your hardware manufacturer first. My $0.02 Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* David McNeill <mailto:dlm46007@cox.net> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2009 3:39 PM > *Subject:* RV10-List: XM Radio > > I was using XM for weather on the trip March 14 to the Midwest. > worked fine. ON the return March 19, the system failed to come up > after takeoff from the Midwest. I stopped in TX to refresh and it > worked again. Does anyone else have these problems? Why does the XM > sight provide a self refresh transaction on the net? I am > considering cancelling XM and using the Navworx box on the Chelton > to get TIS and FIS info... I told XM that it is a safety of flight > issue, in that expecting NEXRAD data when encountering adverse > weather and being surprised, is not funny. Anybody else have this > problem???? >


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    Time: 09:18:08 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Saylor" <Dave@AirCraftersLLC.com>
    Subject: Composite Class for RV-10s May 9-10 2009
    AirCrafters will be holding our "Composites for RV-10s" class again May 9 & 10 (Saturday and Sunday), 2009. More information is available here: http://www.aircraftersllc.com/seminars.htm We will cover all of the composite parts, including the fitting of a cabin top. The class consists of equal parts lecture and hands-on work. Wear old clothes! Although the cabin top and doors are specific to RV-10s, the class is a good primer for any aircraft-related composite work. Please email or call if you would like us to fit your top during the class--no charge! (This will be our fifth top fitting) Again, rides will be available in our RV-10, weather permitting. Class size is limited to 15 builders. Cost is $350. We get a lot of very positive feedback, so sign up early! Dave Saylor AirCrafters LLC 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 831-722-9141 831-750-0284 CL www.AirCraftersLLC.com


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    Time: 11:28:58 AM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@verizon.net>
    Subject: XM Radio
    Not sure what hardware you have, but I use XM on my 496. It takes awhile to start tracking the weather, but I occasionally get significant delays in updates (45 minutes plus). After some guidance from the forum I e-mailed Garmin and they indicated the issue was with XM, not the receiver. Not much we can do about that I suspect. Rebooting the 496 has a limited effect for me. Recently the problem has been less prevalent so I hope that's a good sign. Marcus Do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 5:39 PM Subject: RV10-List: XM Radio I was using XM for weather on the trip March 14 to the Midwest. worked fine. ON the return March 19, the system failed to come up after takeoff from the Midwest. I stopped in TX to refresh and it worked again. Does anyone else have these problems? Why does the XM sight provide a self refresh transaction on the net? I am considering cancelling XM and using the Navworx box on the Chelton to get TIS and FIS info... I told XM that it is a safety of flight issue, in that expecting NEXRAD data when encountering adverse weather and being surprised, is not funny. Anybody else have this problem????


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    Time: 11:31:46 AM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: Section 11
    Thanks Pascal, That is the info I needed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:51 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Section 11 > > numerous ways to look at this. > What I did was "built" the vertical and horizontal but did not match drill > the fiberglass parts. Now that I am at the finishing kit about to put the > gear on, I went back and finished off the fiberglass pieces with the added > experience of the canopy and doors. > With that said here are the ways to look at this > 1) if you have time waiting for the next kit and you're ready to do it, > finish off all but riveting on the fiberglass. > 2) If you have the next kit and are ready to keep going, come back to it > later , if it's in a garage do it before raising the fusellage up on the > gear > 3) You can do it at the hangar when all is done and you are finishing up > everything > > As far as convenient, you need to decide how accessible everything is now- > if you can readily work on the parts on a bench that would work, having it > on the fusellage worked better for me, height wise, having it on the gear > would have had it higher and been more difficult to reach as I did while > it was lower, plus at the end of the build I didn't see wanting to have to > get this done, one main reason is the fiberglass requires some work to > make it fit the way I want it and waiting for flox, plys, etc to cure is > not something I wanted to do at a airport that is 1 hour away from me. > I have seen and talked to numerous builders each did section 11 and 12 at > different times, it really doesn't matter, do it when it's best for you. > Pascal > #40720 > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Strasnuts" <sean@braunandco.com> > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 6:59 PM > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV10-List: Section 11 > >> >> Just wondering if I should attach the horizontal and vertical or wait >> until the plane is closer to being finished. Also should I wait for the >> fiberglass tips too. I just finished my tailcone and my wing is already >> here. I would think Van's would put it off until the end if it was more >> convenient. >> >> -------- >> A&amp;P, ATP >> typed CE-525(s), CE-500 >> RV-10 emp started!!!! >> N801VR reserved >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235463#235463 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 06:57:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gear leg faring hinges
    From: "tomhanaway" <tomhanaway@comcast.net>
    John, I just finished my landing gear fairings last week. I used the 3 foot sections. Haven't started on the cowling yet but it looks to me like that is where I'd used the 6 foot sections. Tom H. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235575#235575


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    Time: 07:24:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: XM Radio
    From: David Schaefer <n142ds@gmail.com>
    The problem you describe is an XM chip issue. If the XM doesn't see a satellite for a while it drops the connection to stop theft. This was set up long before weather when it was basically a radio only service. It happens with the cheap XM and the 'certified' XM like I have in my RV. Real pain in the but ... however the refresh only takes seconds .. especially if you're airborne with you request it. I've never seen it stop working in flight .. it's always after the aircraft has been hangered for a while. As I understand it there is really no fix for it, although the weather folks have been talking for some time that there may be a way. David W. Schaefer RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm" TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS www.n142ds.com On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:39 PM, David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote: > I was using XM for weather on the trip March 14 to the Midwest. worked > fine. ON the return March 19, the system failed to come up after takeoff > from the Midwest. I stopped in TX to refresh and it worked again. Does > anyone else have these problems? Why does the XM sight provide a self > refresh transaction on the net? I am considering cancelling XM and using the > Navworx box on the Chelton to get TIS and FIS info... I told XM that it is a > safety of flight issue, in that expecting NEXRAD data when encountering > adverse weather and being surprised, is not funny. Anybody else have this > problem???? > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 08:21:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gear leg faring hinges
    From: "Ron B." <cfxoa@klis.com>
    Just finished the cowling and it takes a hinge 39" long for the sides . So 36" must be for the legs. I did not realize that hinges were used on the leg fairings, hope I still have hinges left, haven't checked inventory box lately. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235581#235581


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    Time: 10:08:04 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
    Subject: Wind screen fairing
    An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again? http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI


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    Time: 10:37:35 PM PST US
    From: "Bob and Karen Brown" <bkbrown@minetfiber.com>
    Subject: Wind screen fairing
    I glassed in/on the fairing on my RV-7A.no big deal. Dirty, messy, sanding, but not difficult or complicated. I'd like to see how an aluminum fairing would look nicer than a nice job of glass at this intersection point of an RV, of all the things on my plane, I'm pretty proud of how mine came out. I'd just do the glass again, I think. Bob Brown Do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again? http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI




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