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1. 12:00 AM - Re: Vans RV-10 Parking Brake kit (westexflyboy)
2. 12:34 AM - Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 (AirMike)
3. 12:51 AM - Re: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 (Bob and Karen Brown)
4. 05:40 AM - Re: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 (Tim Olson)
5. 06:04 AM - Sony e-reader and ifr charts (Rob Kermanj)
6. 06:05 AM - Re: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 (DejaVu)
7. 06:24 AM - Re: Sony e-reader and ifr charts (Tim Olson)
8. 07:05 AM - Re: Sony e-reader and ifr charts (Rob Kermanj)
9. 10:24 AM - Re: Wind screen fairing (Jim Berry)
10. 10:24 AM - Re: Wind screen fairing (Chuck Weyant)
11. 10:24 AM - Re: Re: Vans RV-10 Parking Brake kit (pascal)
12. 10:28 AM - Re: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 (Don McDonald)
13. 10:33 AM - Exhaust system torque values - etc - Vetterman 2 stack (AirMike)
14. 10:37 AM - Re: Wind screen fairing (David Maib)
15. 11:57 AM - Re: Wind screen fairing (Dave Leikam)
16. 12:21 PM - Re: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 (John Cox)
17. 01:20 PM - Re: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 (AirMike)
18. 01:25 PM - Re: Vans RV-10 Parking Brake kit (AirMike)
19. 03:08 PM - Re: Exhaust system torque values - etc - Vetterman 2 stack (Jim Berry)
20. 03:20 PM - Nav/Strobe Lights (Jeff Carpenter)
21. 03:48 PM - Re: Wind screen fairing (Bob Leffler)
22. 04:47 PM - Aileron pushrod holes (Bill and Tami Britton)
23. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: Exhaust system torque values - etc - Vetterman 2 stack (John Cox)
24. 05:18 PM - Re: Nav/Strobe Lights (johngoodman)
25. 05:21 PM - Re: Aileron pushrod holes (Rene Felker)
26. 05:33 PM - Re: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 (Miller John)
27. 05:33 PM - Re: Wind screen fairing (Bob and Karen Brown)
28. 06:28 PM - N311RV First Flight! (John Testement)
29. 06:40 PM - Re: N311RV First Flight! (Byron Gillespie)
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31. 08:14 PM - Re: N311RV First Flight! (McGANN, Ron)
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| Subject: | Re: Vans RV-10 Parking Brake kit |
wcurtis(at)nerv10.com wrote:
> Can someone tell me what is in this kit that they are charging $179?
>
> William
> http://nerv10.com/
If you're like me - devastated and losing sleep because I forgot about the parking
brake until after I had already installed the complete brake system according
to the plans - the David Ward adapter kit from Van's is FANTASTIC!. Simply
drill out eight rivets (i.e. remove the bracket that mounts the AN brake fittings
to the firewall) and rivet this beautifully machined anodized bracket in
the same holes. No drilling through stainless steel. All countersinking already
done and nutplates already installed. It comes with all the right fittings
and hardware with no trial and error, and no research required, and no modification
to my brake lines that I proudly fabricated exactly per plans. Well
worth the price IMHO. I did miss out on the satisfaction of solving the parking
brake challenge on my own.
Kudos to David Ward, whoever and where ever you are!
--------
Chase Snodgrass
Presidio, Texas
www.flybigbend.com
Simultaneous RV-10 twins under construction
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| Subject: | Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 |
After twenty months I finally opened my box of exhaust parts and -oppps - it does
not match the drawing on pg FF6-2.................
My Vetterman exhaust manifold has two tail pipes instead of the two manifolds combining
into one tailpipe. Is this the new program for the IO540 engine?????
Is there a replacement Pg FF6-2 etc that shows the install of this two pipe system?
- Anybody with info or pics????
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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| Subject: | Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 |
I just received a brand new Vetterman Exhaust for the IO-540. Haven't even
opened the box, I'll look at it tomorrow, then contact you offline to see if
you need some scanned pages OR, you could just call Larry in Hot Springs,
SD.
Bob
Do not archive
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:34 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007
After twenty months I finally opened my box of exhaust parts and -oppps - it
does not match the drawing on pg FF6-2.................
My Vetterman exhaust manifold has two tail pipes instead of the two
manifolds combining into one tailpipe. Is this the new program for the IO540
engine?????
Is there a replacement Pg FF6-2 etc that shows the install of this two pipe
system? - Anybody with info or pics????
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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| Subject: | Re: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 |
This is old news. Van's switched exhaust kits early
on. They never updated the plans. Even my kit that's
been flying for over 3 years now has this Vetterman
exhaust, so most builder pics you will find will
not resemble plans. I'm not sure how many kits were
shipped with the old system, but it was under 170.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
AirMike wrote:
>
> After twenty months I finally opened my box of exhaust parts and
> -oppps - it does not match the drawing on pg FF6-2.................
>
> My Vetterman exhaust manifold has two tail pipes instead of the two
> manifolds combining into one tailpipe. Is this the new program for
> the IO540 engine?????
>
> Is there a replacement Pg FF6-2 etc that shows the install of this
> two pipe system? - Anybody with info or pics????
>
> -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit -
> wiring and FWF
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235596#235596
>
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| Subject: | Sony e-reader and ifr charts |
There was a mention of Sony ereader and PDF Approach Plates a while
ago which sparked my interest. I fly a few times a year from SE
Florida to New Mexico and carry a suitcase full of approach plates.
My favorites are Florida which is so thick that you cannot fold it
over and Texas, with three books in all. If you do not know where
your destination is (geographically in Texas) on the chart you do not
know which book to open to find the plate.
I bought the ereader 505 for $ 269, including shipping, form Amazon
with generous return policy. After downloading the entire US charts
from http://readerplates.com ($10, no subscription required), I found
that while magnify the plate, the orientation of the plate changes
from portrait to landscape. This requires turning the reader 90
degrees to view the chart. Although I can read the chart without
magnifying it, I found this to be a disadvantage.
I solved the problem as shown in the following pics ( I hope that I
have not clogged someone's download files with these pics).
First picture shows an aluminum plate with couple of heavy duty velcro
strips (they are about 3/16" thick), a hole I drilled and counter-sunk
in the plate and the knee pad, the ereader and a plastic coffee can
lid that provides the friction. Friction mechanism, courtesy of my
smarter friends.
The second and the third pictures how they assemble.
The forth picture shows the velcro on the back of ereader. I placed
it based on my needs. You may place it anywhere you think will work
for you. Also, the screw holding the assembly has to be cut very
short with a low profile lock washer to fit under the ereader.
The next pictures show the different orientations. With the push of
one button and flip of a finger, the ereader goes into landscape
magnification mode.
I flew an approach yesterday and believe that this is a good
alternative to carrying a lot of charts short of upgrading my now
three year old (outdated!) equipment. I plan to print the plates for
my destination and the alternate from AOPA site and carry the ereader
for unexpected diversion.
The folks at readerplates.com are very responsive. The organization,
the magnification and navigation of the plates are easy and logical.
I am sure people with machine shops and smarter folks can come up with
better solution.
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| Subject: | Re: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 |
From the original group of builders I think Randy was the only one
that actually had the one-tailpipe configuration.
Anh
N591VU-flying
On Sun 03/22/09 8:38 AM , Tim Olson wrote:
This is old news. Van's switched exhaust kits early
on. They never updated the plans. Even my kit that's
been flying for over 3 years now has this Vetterman
exhaust, so most builder pics you will find will
not resemble plans. I'm not sure how many kits were
shipped with the old system, but it was under 170.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
AirMike wrote:
>
> After twenty months I finally opened my box of exhaust parts and
> -oppps - it does not match the drawing on pg
FF6-2.................
>
> My Vetterman exhaust manifold has two tail pipes instead of the
two
> manifolds combining into one tailpipe. Is this the new program for
> the IO540 engine?????
>
> Is there a replacement Pg FF6-2 etc that shows the install of this
> two pipe system? - Anybody with info or pics????
>
> -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit -
> wiring and FWF
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sony e-reader and ifr charts |
Is that charts too, or just approach plates?
Do you have a solution for Charts?
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Rob Kermanj wrote:
> There was a mention of Sony ereader and PDF Approach Plates a while
> ago which sparked my interest. I fly a few times a year from SE Florida
> to New Mexico and carry a suitcase full of approach plates. My
> favorites are Florida which is so thick that you cannot fold it over and
> Texas, with three books in all. If you do not know where your
> destination is (geographically in Texas) on the chart you do not
> know which book to open to find the plate.
>
> I bought the ereader 505 for $ 269, including shipping, form Amazon with
> generous return policy. After downloading the entire US charts
> from http://readerplates.com ($10, no subscription required), I found
> that while magnify the plate, the orientation of the plate changes
> from portrait to landscape. This requires turning the reader
> 90 degrees to view the chart. Although I can read the chart
> without magnifying it, I found this to be a disadvantage.
>
> I solved the problem as shown in the following pics ( I hope that I
> have not clogged someone's download files with these pics).
>
> First picture shows an aluminum plate with couple of heavy duty velcro
> strips (they are about 3/16" thick), a hole I drilled and counter-sunk
> in the plate and the knee pad, the ereader and a plastic coffee can lid
> that provides the friction. Friction mechanism, courtesy of my smarter
> friends.
>
> The second and the third pictures how they assemble.
>
> The forth picture shows the velcro on the back of ereader. I placed it
> based on my needs. You may place it anywhere you think will work for
> you. Also, the screw holding the assembly has to be cut very short with
> a low profile lock washer to fit under the ereader.
>
> The next pictures show the different orientations. With the push of one
> button and flip of a finger, the ereader goes into landscape
> magnification mode.
>
> I flew an approach yesterday and believe that this is a good alternative
> to carrying a lot of charts short of upgrading my now three year old
> (outdated!) equipment. I plan to print the plates for my destination
> and the alternate from AOPA site and carry the ereader for unexpected
> diversion.
>
> The folks at readerplates.com are very responsive. The organization,
> the magnification and navigation of the plates are easy and logical.
>
> I am sure people with machine shops and smarter folks can come up with
> better solution.
>
>
>
>
> IMG_2079.JPG
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| Subject: | Re: Sony e-reader and ifr charts |
Just the Plates. I wish I had a solution for the charts.
At least with the charts, you are not carrying a huge bundle. I was
thinking of scanning the chars I usually use, based on Vector Airways
and loading them into the reader to see how it will work. If I do, I
will report on it.
do ot archive.
On Mar 22, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Is that charts too, or just approach plates?
> Do you have a solution for Charts?
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Rob Kermanj wrote:
>> There was a mention of Sony ereader and PDF Approach Plates a while
>> ago which sparked my interest. I fly a few times a year from SE
>> Florida to New Mexico and carry a suitcase full of approach
>> plates. My favorites are Florida which is so thick that you cannot
>> fold it over and Texas, with three books in all. If you do not
>> know where your destination is (geographically in Texas) on the
>> chart you do not know which book to open to find the plate.
>> I bought the ereader 505 for $ 269, including shipping, form Amazon
>> with generous return policy. After downloading the entire US
>> charts from http://readerplates.com ($10, no subscription
>> required), I found that while magnify the plate, the orientation
>> of the plate changes from portrait to landscape. This requires
>> turning the reader 90 degrees to view the chart. Although I can
>> read the chart without magnifying it, I found this to be a
>> disadvantage.
>> I solved the problem as shown in the following pics ( I hope that
>> I have not clogged someone's download files with these pics).
>> First picture shows an aluminum plate with couple of heavy duty
>> velcro strips (they are about 3/16" thick), a hole I drilled and
>> counter-sunk in the plate and the knee pad, the ereader and a
>> plastic coffee can lid that provides the friction. Friction
>> mechanism, courtesy of my smarter friends.
>> The second and the third pictures how they assemble.
>> The forth picture shows the velcro on the back of ereader. I
>> placed it based on my needs. You may place it anywhere you think
>> will work for you. Also, the screw holding the assembly has to be
>> cut very short with a low profile lock washer to fit under the
>> ereader.
>> The next pictures show the different orientations. With the push
>> of one button and flip of a finger, the ereader goes into landscape
>> magnification mode.
>> I flew an approach yesterday and believe that this is a good
>> alternative to carrying a lot of charts short of upgrading my now
>> three year old (outdated!) equipment. I plan to print the plates
>> for my destination and the alternate from AOPA site and carry the
>> ereader for unexpected diversion.
>> The folks at readerplates.com are very responsive. The
>> organization, the magnification and navigation of the plates are
>> easy and logical.
>> I am sure people with machine shops and smarter folks can come up
>> with better solution.
>> IMG_2079.JPG
>> IMG_2080.JPG
>> IMG_2081.JPG
>> IMG_2082.JPG
>> IMG_2083.JPG
>> IMG_2084.JPG
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wind screen fairing |
I glassed mine, and would do so again. It seems to me that it would be at least
as much work, if not more, to trim the metal fairing to a good fit. I would make
one change from Van's instructions. If you make all pieces of your layup full
length it is going to be pretty thick at the door opening, and will be difficult
to get a smooth transition to the door. I have seen several -10s with a
noticeable bulge in this area. I made the first 4 layers of my layup full length,
then cut each additional layer 1" shorter than the previous layer on each
end. No bulge.
Jim Berry
40482
N15JB
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| Subject: | Re: Wind screen fairing |
Piece of cake. Follow Van's instructions to the letter and it's
easy...just takes time, that's all (two days?). And the transition from
top to plexy will be smoooooth as glass (pun intended). This is my
second. Built a 'nine' too.
Chuck
From: Dave Leikam
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone
installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind
screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Vans RV-10 Parking Brake kit |
This was asked a while ago by william and he was asking how it can justify
so much money when one can do the same thing for far less.
No disagreement that a parking brake is needed, and doing it oneself can be
accomplished for far less without major work.
Pascal
--------------------------------------------------
From: "westexflyboy" <airplanedriver@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:59 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Vans RV-10 Parking Brake kit
>
>
> wcurtis(at)nerv10.com wrote:
>> Can someone tell me what is in this kit that they are charging $179?
>>
>> William
>> http://nerv10.com/
>
>
> If you're like me - devastated and losing sleep because I forgot about the
> parking brake until after I had already installed the complete brake
> system according to the plans - the David Ward adapter kit from Van's is
> FANTASTIC!. Simply drill out eight rivets (i.e. remove the bracket that
> mounts the AN brake fittings to the firewall) and rivet this beautifully
> machined anodized bracket in the same holes. No drilling through
> stainless steel. All countersinking already done and nutplates already
> installed. It comes with all the right fittings and hardware with no
> trial and error, and no research required, and no modification to my brake
> lines that I proudly fabricated exactly per plans. Well worth the price
> IMHO. I did miss out on the satisfaction of solving the parking brake
> challenge on my own.
>
> Kudos to David Ward, whoever and where ever you are!
>
> --------
> Chase Snodgrass
> Presidio, Texas
> www.flybigbend.com
> Simultaneous RV-10 twins under construction
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235594#235594
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 |
Mike, the brackets that support the exhaust to the motor mount are really w
impy... I think I made up an extra set out of stainless.- Plus they need
to be bent upward to support the exhaust properly.
Don McDonald- #40636
Airworthiness inspection on Monday!
--- On Sun, 3/22/09, AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote:
From: AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007
After twenty months I finally opened my box of exhaust parts and -oppps - i
t does not match the drawing on pg FF6-2.................
My Vetterman exhaust manifold has two tail pipes instead of the two manifol
ds combining into one tailpipe. Is this the new program for the IO540 engin
e?????
Is there a replacement Pg FF6-2 etc that shows the install of this two pipe
system? -- Anybody with info or pics????
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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| Subject: | Exhaust system torque values - etc - Vetterman 2 stack |
The info is pretty slim on the installation of the Vetterman dual stack system.
Vans plans say to torque the exhaust nuts to 100-140 in/lbs
Vetterman's sheet says to torque the nuts to 140-180 in/lbs
Any idea which is preferred?????
Also Vans says to use anti-seize on the nuts. Any suggestions for what this product
is ..........???????
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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| Subject: | Re: Wind screen fairing |
I would have considered the mlskunkworks fairing but it was not
available when I did my windscreen. It seems like it would save some
work on the front end and might be pretty nice in the event you ever
have to remove your windshield.
David Maib
40559
On Mar 22, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Chuck Weyant wrote:
Piece of cake. Follow Van's instructions to the letter and it's
easy...just takes time, that's all (two days?). And the transition
from top to plexy will be smoooooth as glass (pun intended). This is
my second. Built a 'nine' too.
Chuck
From: Dave Leikam
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has
anyone installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their
wind screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Wind screen fairing |
I am not asking as much from the standpoint of difficulty, as I am
asking for functionality regarding cracking and potential windshield
removal issues later. Thanks for the replies so far!
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Weyant
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
Piece of cake. Follow Van's instructions to the letter and it's
easy...just takes time, that's all (two days?). And the transition from
top to plexy will be smoooooth as glass (pun intended). This is my
second. Built a 'nine' too.
Chuck
From: Dave Leikam
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:06 PM
To: RV-10 matronics
Subject: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has
anyone installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind
screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 |
Talking of old news and old fogeys. My memory came up with Chris Stepp
from American Exhaust who was talking with me when I began talking to
John Forsling on the Barrett project. The desire was a tuned system to
improve on Air/Fuel balance, ported heads for extraction of a few more
ponies than from a more conservatively built Aerosport. Attached are
the First Gen VANS/Vetterman system that the original plans drawn from
(I think for the first 140+ kits). Then Chris sold his unique "One Off
"design to Larry Vetterman who changed it to the Second Gen VANS "now
known as Vetterman" for mass production. Although they did not achieve
the identical exhaust flow that I desired, they did go to the dual
collectors, dual heat muffs, and improved hangar support helped. The
intent was to reduce or eliminate the irritant popping sound that would
intermittently emanate when cutting throttle quickly as the ole four
banger RVs would turn base to final. The reduced exhaust pressure of a
short stack was thought to contribute. Hence today a longer stack to
discharge distance.
At this point it would be wise to tap into the body of ROs (Repeat
Offenders) to mention the rapidity of cracks found in their RV6,RV7 or
RV8 right side exhaust stack mounts from vibration and the inherent
advantage in the use of stainless bracketrage, improved temperature
exhaust nuts and copper loctite. The old-timers that have done a few
Conditionals like Randy, Tim, Doug, Vic, Scott and others can mention if
that pattern is being repeated into their 10s. It would show up about
every 3 to 4 years, sometimes every other.
One of the values of this list is that this IS where the plans updates
are discussed UNOFFICIALLY. You Tim, have been a major contributor to
those improvements to the build community.
Who Got the first Chris Stepp designed dual muff RV-10 exhaust set?
Builder Number Please!
John Cox
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007
This is old news. Van's switched exhaust kits early
on. They never updated the plans. Even my kit that's
been flying for over 3 years now has this Vetterman
exhaust, so most builder pics you will find will
not resemble plans. I'm not sure how many kits were
shipped with the old system, but it was under 170.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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AirMike wrote:
>
> After twenty months I finally opened my box of exhaust parts and
> -oppps - it does not match the drawing on pg FF6-2.................
>
> My Vetterman exhaust manifold has two tail pipes instead of the two
> manifolds combining into one tailpipe. Is this the new program for
> the IO540 engine?????
>
> Is there a replacement Pg FF6-2 etc that shows the install of this
> two pipe system? - Anybody with info or pics????
>
> -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit -
> wiring and FWF
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235596#235596
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| Subject: | Re: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 |
Thanks - Tim - John - Don for the help - the pictures really help
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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| Subject: | Re: Vans RV-10 Parking Brake kit |
For those of us cheapskates - you can do it youself. Maybe not as elegant as the
Ward kit , but still effective and cheeeeeeaaap
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=41575&highlight=matco
See my post of 3/31/08
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| Subject: | Re: Exhaust system torque values - etc - Vetterman 2 stack |
Antiseize keeps the nuts from becoming permanently corroded to the exhaust studs.
Look at Permatex 133A and similar products.
Jim Berry
40482
N15JB
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| Subject: | Nav/Strobe Lights |
I'm starting to shop for Nav/Strobe lights and these Aveoflash units
sold by Spruce seem interesting. Does anyone have any experience
with these? Is there something else out there that is a sure bet?
Jeff Carpenter
40304
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/aveoFlash.php
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| Subject: | Wind screen fairing |
I'm interested in this as well. One of the areas that's been a concern for
me is replacing the windshield. I recently replaced the windshield on my
Cherokee, which was a pretty straightforward job and didn't really mess up
the paint job. At some point in time, I imagine that the RV-10 windshield
will need to be replaced due to cracks, scratches, or crazing. It make take
10-20 years for the windshield to get that bad, but I think it's just a
question of time. It would be nice to talk to any RV-10 builder that has
installed these fairings to get their opinion. Has anyone asked M L Blue
Skunk for reference RV-10 builder's names?
bob
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
I am not asking as much from the standpoint of difficulty, as I am asking
for functionality regarding cracking and potential windshield removal issues
later. Thanks for the replies so far!
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Weyant <mailto:chuck@chuckdirect.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
Piece of cake. Follow Van's instructions to the letter and it's easy...just
takes time, that's all (two days?). And the transition from top to plexy
will be smoooooth as glass (pun intended). This is my second. Built a
'nine' too.
Chuck
From: Dave Leikam <mailto:daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone
installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen,
would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Aileron pushrod holes |
Today I started working on the rear wing spars. The instructions show a
"squared" hole to be cut into the W-1007D doubler plate however the hole
in my rear spar is actually a "teardrop" shape. Am I to modify the hole
in the spar or simply copy the shape in the spar? A picture is
attached.
Also, the doubler plates overhang the slot cut into the spar (slot is
for the flap brackets I assume) just a little. Do I need to trim the
doubler plates to the slot in the spar?? Another picture is attached.
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| Subject: | Re: Exhaust system torque values - etc - Vetterman 2 stack |
Two Loctite products that we use are C5-A which is Loctite #51005,
Copper based Anti-Seize Lubricant (good to 980 C / 1800F) and then for
our turbine hot sections we resort to overkill with Loctite #51102,
Nickel Anti-Seize (good to 1315C / 2400F). If you like to look for
cheaper Milspec alternatives it is MIL-PRF-907-E.
It is always a good call to use nuts rated to the additional heat of a
head flange or collector attachment. I vote for the second and higher
torques listed cause I seem to remember a hardware improvement over
stock configuration.
John Cox
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Sent: Sun 3/22/2009 3:07 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Exhaust system torque values - etc - Vetterman 2
stack
Antiseize keeps the nuts from becoming permanently corroded to the
exhaust studs. Look at Permatex 133A and similar products.
Jim Berry
40482
N15JB
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| Subject: | Re: Nav/Strobe Lights |
Yeah, those look pretty interesting - a bit pricey. I went with Kuntzleman's triple magnum. Good price and they look great powered up in the shop. Give me a year & I'll tell you how they look in the air. http://www.kestrobes.com/cat3.htm
It seems like there are new LED lights coming out every month. I noticed that Kuntzleman
even has LED landing lights.
John
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| Subject: | Aileron pushrod holes |
Just off of memory. The teardrop is an improvement so the rivet from the
aileron connecting rod can not get caught. Match the holes...just my old
memory at work. If you check the archives I think you can find some
discussion on the interference problem.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami
Britton
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 5:43 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Aileron pushrod holes
Today I started working on the rear wing spars. The instructions show a
"squared" hole to be cut into the W-1007D doubler plate however the hole in
my rear spar is actually a "teardrop" shape. Am I to modify the hole in the
spar or simply copy the shape in the spar? A picture is attached.
Also, the doubler plates overhang the slot cut into the spar (slot is for
the flap brackets I assume) just a little. Do I need to trim the doubler
plates to the slot in the spar?? Another picture is attached.
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| Subject: | Re: Vetterman Exhaust system - Page FF6-2 frm 2007 |
That's just what my Vettermans do.
2 separate systems.
Works just fine for past 2 years now.
Grumpy
N184JM
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On Mar 22, 2009, at 2:33 AM, AirMike wrote:
>
> After twenty months I finally opened my box of exhaust parts and -
> oppps - it does not match the drawing on pg FF6-2.................
>
> My Vetterman exhaust manifold has two tail pipes instead of the two
> manifolds combining into one tailpipe. Is this the new program for
> the IO540 engine?????
>
> Is there a replacement Pg FF6-2 etc that shows the install of this
> two pipe system? - Anybody with info or pics????
>
> --------
> OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
> Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235596#235596
>
>
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| Subject: | Wind screen fairing |
I'd just reiterate my input that.I cannot imagine a cleaner intersection on
these RV's (4,6,7,8,9,10) than what is already out there. I just cannot.
The fleet has not had these problems to much of a degree and, especially
when the windows are secured with adhesive (I used sikaflex on my 7A). You
say 10 or 20 years, I have owned a lot of airplanes that had windscreens
older than that which remained serviceable.so I think to some degree it
depends what you're willing to fly behind.
I'm not saying don't go for sheet metal fairing solution, but understand
that when you apply solutions to (what I'd consider in this case) non
problems, sometimes you get less than what you started with, especially with
thousands of flying examples using a technique that is well known, easily
accomplished and well documented. That would seem to be the case here.but I
have not seen an installation with a metal fairing, only hundreds done the
glass/micro/layup way. I am biased, I guess, I think they look great, and
in fact are in my opinion one of the big selling points of the basic RV
design.
Bob Brown
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
I'm interested in this as well. One of the areas that's been a concern for
me is replacing the windshield. I recently replaced the windshield on my
Cherokee, which was a pretty straightforward job and didn't really mess up
the paint job. At some point in time, I imagine that the RV-10 windshield
will need to be replaced due to cracks, scratches, or crazing. It make take
10-20 years for the windshield to get that bad, but I think it's just a
question of time. It would be nice to talk to any RV-10 builder that has
installed these fairings to get their opinion. Has anyone asked M L Blue
Skunk for reference RV-10 builder's names?
bob
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
I am not asking as much from the standpoint of difficulty, as I am asking
for functionality regarding cracking and potential windshield removal issues
later. Thanks for the replies so far!
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Weyant <mailto:chuck@chuckdirect.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
Piece of cake. Follow Van's instructions to the letter and it's easy...just
takes time, that's all (two days?). And the transition from top to plexy
will be smoooooth as glass (pun intended). This is my second. Built a
'nine' too.
Chuck
From: Dave Leikam <mailto:daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone
installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen,
would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
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| Subject: | N311RV First Flight! |
N311RV took to the air today for an uneventful, and therefore successful,
first flight. As everyone else says, it flies hands off. What a great plane!
Airborne photos to come.
John Testement
N311RV
#40321
Richmond, VA
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| Subject: | N311RV First Flight! |
Congrats John!
I am about a month behind you and working through the finishing details.
Keep us updated on the fly off!
Byron
South GA
N253RV Assigned
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Testement
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Subject: RV10-List: N311RV First Flight!
N311RV took to the air today for an uneventful, and therefore
successful, first flight. As everyone else says, it flies hands off.
What a great plane!
Airborne photos to come.
John Testement
N311RV
#40321
Richmond, VA
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| Subject: | Re: N311RV First Flight! |
Congrats John!!!!!- I guess there's several of us right behind you.- I
managed a couple of-somewhat high speed taxis today, and have the airwort
hiness inspection tomorrow.- So Deem's is ready, Byron Gillespie is ready
, I'm ready, anyone else out there within a month or so ready?
Don McDonald #40636
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Subject: RV10-List: N311RV First Flight!
N311RV took to the air today for an uneventful, and therefore successful, f
irst flight. As everyone else says, it flies hands off. What a great plane!
-
Airborne photos to come.
John Testement
N311RV
#40321
Richmond , VA
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| Subject: | N311RV First Flight! |
Affirmative - just waiting to have our Aussie instrument and radio ADs
signed off (tomorrow hopefully), with final airworthiness inspection
next weekend.
Cheers,
Ron McGann
40187/VH-XRM
South Australia
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Subject: Re: RV10-List: N311RV First Flight!
Congrats John!!!!! I guess there's several of us right behind you. I
managed a couple of somewhat high speed taxis today, and have the
airworthiness inspection tomorrow. So Deem's is ready, Byron Gillespie
is ready, I'm ready, anyone else out there within a month or so ready?
Don McDonald #40636
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Subject: RV10-List: N311RV First Flight!
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 6:26 PM
N311RV took to the air today for an uneventful, and therefore
successful, first flight. As everyone else says, it flies hands off.
What a great plane!
Airborne photos to come.
John Testement
N311RV
#40321
Richmond , VA
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| Subject: | N311RV First Flight! |
Knowing how those first flights feel, I hope you've enjoyed the rest of your
day. Congratulations of the highest order, every person who completes a
homebuilt is at least persistent, that's a guarantee!
Enjoy and stay safe,
Bob Brown
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N311RV took to the air today for an uneventful, and therefore successful,
first flight. As everyone else says, it flies hands off. What a great plane!
Airborne photos to come.
John Testement
N311RV
#40321
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| Subject: | Re: N311RV First Flight! |
Well Done John!!!! Beautiful looking aircraft!
Congratulations!
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....someday soon
http://deemsrv10.com/
John Testement wrote:
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> What a great plane!
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> John Testement
> N311RV
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| Subject: | N311RV First Flight! |
Agreed! Fantastic!
Robin
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Well Done John!!!! Beautiful looking aircraft!
Congratulations!
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....someday soon
http://deemsrv10.com/
John Testement wrote:
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> N311RV took to the air today for an uneventful, and therefore
> successful, first flight. As everyone else says, it flies hands off.
> What a great plane!
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> Airborne photos to come.
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> John Testement
> N311RV
> #40321
> Richmond, VA
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| Subject: | Re: N311RV First Flight! |
Congrats John... it's come a long way since I saw it in your
basement... beautiful plane... you should be proud.
Jeff
On Mar 22, 2009, at 6:26 PM, John Testement wrote:
> N311RV took to the air today for an uneventful, and therefore
> successful, first flight. As everyone else says, it flies hands
> off. What a great plane!
>
>
> Airborne photos to come.
>
> John Testement
> N311RV
> #40321
> Richmond, VA
>
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