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1. 01:09 AM - Re: Missing index holes in doors (precisedix)
2. 02:20 AM - Re: Re: Missing index holes in doors (Chris and Susie)
3. 04:41 AM - Re: Re: Missing index holes in doors (John Cox)
4. 04:53 AM - Re: Re: Missing index holes in doors (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
5. 05:35 AM - Re: N311RV First Flight! (Mike Much)
6. 05:53 AM - Re: N311RV First Flight! (Fred Williams, M.D.)
7. 06:22 AM - Re: Wind screen fairing (Bill Gipson)
8. 06:59 AM - Max X-wind speed to taxi (orchidman)
9. 07:18 AM - Re: Max X-wind speed to taxi (Rene Felker)
10. 09:12 AM - Re: Aileron pushrod holes (Larry Rosen)
11. 09:31 AM - Re: Max X-wind speed to taxi (Robin Marks)
12. 09:47 AM - Re: N311RV First Flight! (egohr1)
13. 09:52 AM - Re: XM Radio (Bill DeRouchey)
14. 09:54 AM - Re: Max X-wind speed to taxi (Dave Saylor)
15. 10:11 AM - Re: N311RV First Flight! (Marcus Cooper)
16. 10:12 AM - Re: Max X-wind speed to taxi (Marcus Cooper)
17. 10:17 AM - Re: Max X-wind speed to taxi (Bill DeRouchey)
18. 01:52 PM - Re: Max X-wind speed to taxi (linn)
19. 05:50 PM - Re: Max X-wind speed to taxi (Tim Olson)
20. 05:59 PM - doors (linn)
21. 06:29 PM - Re: doors (Miller John)
22. 06:33 PM - Re: doors (pascal)
23. 07:05 PM - Re: Wind screen fairing (Dave Leikam)
24. 07:24 PM - Re: doors (Dave Saylor)
25. 07:28 PM - Re: doors (Dave Leikam)
26. 08:35 PM - Re: doors (pascal)
27. 09:51 PM - Re: doors (Don McDonald)
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Subject: | Re: Missing index holes in doors |
It is unfortunate that the Repeat Offenders and new Van kit builders believe the
Vans parts to be acceptable. The developments in solvents, cements, potting
compounds and substrates are easily a decade ahead of what is "Vans - State of
the Art". How is that man???
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Subject: | Re: Missing index holes in doors |
Dont put us repeat ofenders all in one basket!
Chris VH-ICY
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From: "precisedix" <precisedix@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:08 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Missing index holes in doors
>
> It is unfortunate that the Repeat Offenders and new Van kit builders
> believe the Vans parts to be acceptable. The developments in solvents,
> cements, potting compounds and substrates are easily a decade ahead of
> what is "Vans - State of the Art". How is that man???
>
>
> _________________
> blanchard grinding (http://www.preciseplate.com)
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=235775#235775
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Subject: | Re: Missing index holes in doors |
Most builders would likely agree how easy it is to accept the recommendatio
n of a respected firm that already consistently produces kits which are eas
y to build and contain reliability of quality for just about any novice tin
kerer. I can't speak to R.O.s.
I will say that products, chemicals, processes, tools & build talent are mo
ving (improving) at a far greater pace than most companies with sustained p
roduction power will adapt and incorporate - that is technology on the marc
h.
I for one, love the cooperative sharing of this community and the ability t
o improve, enhance or just modify a great product... "the four passengar cr
uiser airplane" with actual room to move during a memorable flight even whi
le sitting in the back with the kids, another adult friend or the family do
g.
Repeat Offenders... their name reveals their passion.
Of only our governments were more progressive, more entreprenuerial and les
s socialistic. Oshkosh tends to equalize that every year for one long but
nostalgically brief week.
John Cox
From: Chris and Susie
Sent: Mon 3/23/2009 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Missing index holes in doors
Dont put us repeat ofenders all in one basket!
Chris VH-ICY
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From: "precisedix" <precisedix@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:08 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Missing index holes in doors
>
> It is unfortunate that the Repeat Offenders and new Van kit builders
> believe the Vans parts to be acceptable. The developments in solvents,
> cements, potting compounds and substrates are easily a decade ahead of
> what is "Vans - State of the Art". How is that man???
>
>
> _________________
> blanchard grinding (http://www.preciseplate.com)
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Subject: | Re: Missing index holes in doors |
You obviously never have seen some of my posts on the subject. :)
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of precisedix
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 3:08 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Missing index holes in doors
It is unfortunate that the Repeat Offenders and new Van kit builders believe the
Vans parts to be acceptable. The developments in solvents, cements, potting
compounds and substrates are easily a decade ahead of what is "Vans - State of
the Art". How is that man???
_________________
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Subject: | Re: N311RV First Flight! |
Nice plane! Exciting times!
I'm only 3+ years behind u...
www.2muchflying.com
On 3/22/09, John Testement <jwt@roadmapscoaching.com> wrote:
> N311RV took to the air today for an uneventful, and therefore successful,
> first flight. As everyone else says, it flies hands off. What a great plane!
>
>
> Airborne photos to come.
>
> John Testement
> N311RV
> #40321
> Richmond, VA
>
>
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Subject: | Re: N311RV First Flight! |
Congratulations, John Sweet looking airplane. Looks like you have
done a great job.
Dr Fred.
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Subject: | Wind screen fairing |
Dave, we installed a metal fairing that Bud Warren fabricated. He had done
it before and was up to the challenge. I think it came out quite nice.
May save a paint job down the road should the windshield need replacement.
The installation was the easy part. Bud spent several hours fashioning the
fairing from a piece of sheet metal. This job is for the experienced, not a
novice or else you will probably be disappointed.
Bill Gipson
N720WL
LS1 powered RV-10
Conroe, Texas
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:07 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone
installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen,
would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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Subject: | Max X-wind speed to taxi |
I spent several hours yesterday at the hanger re-arranging it to receive the fuselage
for final assembly. The winds were 25 gusting to 35 and today it will
be higher. The wind was almost straight down the runway.
This started me to thinking, I will have up to a quarter mile taxing to/from the
runway at 90 deg to the wind.
Question: what is the max x-wind you have taxied your 10 in with no problems and
what do you use as your limit? This is my first airplane with a free castering
nose gear and I am wondering how much of a problem this will create.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Final Finishing - SB
(N2GB registered)
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Subject: | Max X-wind speed to taxi |
It was 11 knots gusting to 22 Saturday and I had no problem.....
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Max X-wind speed to taxi
I spent several hours yesterday at the hanger re-arranging it to receive the
fuselage for final assembly. The winds were 25 gusting to 35 and today it
will be higher. The wind was almost straight down the runway.
This started me to thinking, I will have up to a quarter mile taxing to/from
the runway at 90 deg to the wind.
Question: what is the max x-wind you have taxied your 10 in with no problems
and what do you use as your limit? This is my first airplane with a free
castering nose gear and I am wondering how much of a problem this will
create.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Final Finishing - SB
(N2GB registered)
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Subject: | Re: Aileron pushrod holes |
That is the shape of the hole in my quick build wings.
I will send you a photo off list.
Larry Rosen
#356
Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> Today I started working on the rear wing spars. The instructions show
> a "squared" hole to be cut into the W-1007D doubler plate however the
> hole in my rear spar is actually a "teardrop" shape. Am I to modify
> the hole in the spar or simply copy the shape in the spar? A picture
> is attached.
>
> Also, the doubler plates overhang the slot cut into the spar (slot is
> for the flap brackets I assume) just a little. Do I need to trim the
> doubler plates to the slot in the spar?? Another picture is attached.
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Subject: | Max X-wind speed to taxi |
If you have an extra long taxi one option is to request to land long to
reduce the taxi distance.
I prefer the free castering nose wheel as it just goes where the fuse
tells it to vs. using the mechanical linkage to resist all those cross
wind forces.
Heading to the airport now 18 gusting 30.
Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:18 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Max X-wind speed to taxi
It was 11 knots gusting to 22 Saturday and I had no problem.....
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Max X-wind speed to taxi
I spent several hours yesterday at the hanger re-arranging it to receive
the
fuselage for final assembly. The winds were 25 gusting to 35 and today
it
will be higher. The wind was almost straight down the runway.
This started me to thinking, I will have up to a quarter mile taxing
to/from
the runway at 90 deg to the wind.
Question: what is the max x-wind you have taxied your 10 in with no
problems
and what do you use as your limit? This is my first airplane with a
free
castering nose gear and I am wondering how much of a problem this will
create.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Final Finishing - SB
(N2GB registered)
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Subject: | Re: N311RV First Flight! |
40271 - soon to be 410EG goes to paint this week. All parts have been fit in the
shop. Seats are in the engine cranks and the pannel is a no smoking zone.
Final assembly in 2 -3 weeks.
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eric gohr
EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
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I have implemented XM using the Spruce XM receiver and my own software. Ear
ly on I had sporatic problems resetting the box when there was an extensive
delay in data reception. It made the box appear dead until next boot.
-
Another user had problems when stopping and restarting his subscription and
getting the timing right for reception of the "refresh". Another significa
nt outage I had was because the whole XM system went down and I needed a "r
efresh". Once these problems were resolved it has not failed once in the la
st 12 months and comes up briskly with the first nextrad image within 5 min
utes.
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We need to focus problems on the exact piece of equipment talking to the XM
receiver and the mfg of the XM receiver, and the software version in the X
M receiver. The specification for this communication is a guarded secret th
at-nobody will share (with me)-so there is-much room for errors with
reverse engineering.- If you have a copy please contact me.
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Also, when the-network "refresh" is activated it will not begin for appro
x 30 minutes and times out after 3 hours - so you need to get the timing an
d antenna reception right.
-
None of these comments nor the lack of a clear problem definition surprise
me.
-
Bill DeRouchey
N939SB, flying
-
-
--- On Sat, 3/21/09, David Schaefer <n142ds@gmail.com> wrote:
From: David Schaefer <n142ds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: XM Radio
The problem you describe is an XM chip issue.- If the XM doesn't see a sa
tellite for a while it drops the connection to stop theft.- This was set
up long before weather when it was basically a radio only service.- It ha
ppens with the cheap XM and the 'certified' XM like I have in my RV.- Rea
l pain in the but ... however the refresh only takes seconds .. especially
if you're airborne with you request it.- I've never seen it stop working
in flight .. it's always after the aircraft has been hangered for a while.
- As I understand it there is really no fix for it, although the weather
folks have been talking for some time that there may be a way.
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS -"Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
www.n142ds.com
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:39 PM, David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
I was using XM for weather on the trip March 14 to the Midwest. worked fine
. ON the return March 19, the system failed-to come up after takeoff from
the Midwest. I stopped in TX to refresh and it worked again. Does anyone e
lse have these problems? Why does the XM sight provide a self refresh trans
action on the net? I am considering cancelling XM and using the Navworx box
on the Chelton to get TIS and FIS info... I told XM that it is a safety of
flight issue, in that expecting NEXRAD data when encountering adverse weat
her and being surprised, is not funny. Anybody else have this problem????
get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
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Subject: | Max X-wind speed to taxi |
Yesterday at KWVI, AWOS was saying 17 gusting to 24. I taxied out with
almost a direct crosswind with no problem. It was the first time I noticed
that I had to use bit of differential braking to go down the taxi way. The
nose wanted to point into the wind, and adding rudder didn't help. But a
touch of brake steered it back to centerline.
I was taxiing 020, and the wind was about 250. I turned 080 to use runway
26 for takeoff. When I turned to taxi downwind, the stick gave me a pretty
stiff push. Keeping it centered took more thought and effort than keeping
the nose straight.
After working with 17 knots, I wouldn't hesitate to taxi with a 20 knot
crosswind. Just hold on to the stick!
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
N921AC 345 hours
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 6:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Max X-wind speed to taxi
I spent several hours yesterday at the hanger re-arranging it to receive the
fuselage for final assembly. The winds were 25 gusting to 35 and today it
will be higher. The wind was almost straight down the runway.
This started me to thinking, I will have up to a quarter mile taxing to/from
the runway at 90 deg to the wind.
Question: what is the max x-wind you have taxied your 10 in with no problems
and what do you use as your limit? This is my first airplane with a free
castering nose gear and I am wondering how much of a problem this will
create.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Final Finishing - SB
(N2GB registered)
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Subject: | N311RV First Flight! |
Way to go! Looks great too, well done. Have fun.
Marcus
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Testement
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: N311RV First Flight!
N311RV took to the air today for an uneventful, and therefore successful,
first flight. As everyone else says, it flies hands off. What a great plane!
Airborne photos to come.
John Testement
N311RV
#40321
Richmond, VA
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Subject: | Max X-wind speed to taxi |
Interesting question. I've had no issue taxiing in some pretty stiff winds.
My opinion is that if it's safe to fly, it's safe to taxi (even if the
direction is 90 degrees off for your taxi). The airplane is pretty stable,
although you need to tap the brake sometimes to help. I would recommend
against riding the brake though as it will certainly heat them more than you
would like.
Marcus
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Max X-wind speed to taxi
I spent several hours yesterday at the hanger re-arranging it to receive the
fuselage for final assembly. The winds were 25 gusting to 35 and today it
will be higher. The wind was almost straight down the runway.
This started me to thinking, I will have up to a quarter mile taxing to/from
the runway at 90 deg to the wind.
Question: what is the max x-wind you have taxied your 10 in with no problems
and what do you use as your limit? This is my first airplane with a free
castering nose gear and I am wondering how much of a problem this will
create.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Final Finishing - SB
(N2GB registered)
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Subject: | Max X-wind speed to taxi |
I have had several problems with the wind, most of them traced to my owning
a Piper Archer with steerable nose wheel for many years and not anticipati
ng what might happen if the nose wheel can flop about.
-
I have learned (and probably learn again) that this aircraft desperately wa
nts to weather vane.-I have approached the last transit parking place wit
h the nose pointed downwind, got out and watched the plane make a nice quic
k 90 degree turn.
-
Taxiing will be slow-in a cross wind because although the braking will ef
fectively steer the plane it will also stop the plane. Here is where you do
not appreciate the leverage and force the wind exerts on the aft side of t
he fuse/tail.
-
In a high wind condition the takeoff technique is exactly opposite of my Ar
cher. Assume the crosswind is from the right. With the Archer I could start
the takeoff roll with some right rudder (nose wheel) and the aircraft poin
ting slightly to the right. When I tried this with the RV-10 the-wind on
the aft fuse rotated the plane clockwise-accelerating it to the right. I
almost lost it. Now in these same conditions I am ready to slam in a non-in
ituitive hard left rudder.
-
I find the castering wheel very different. Instead of focusing on where I p
oint the nose I focus on where the wind will push my tail.
-
Bill DeRouchey
N939SB, flying
--- On Mon, 3/23/09, Rene Felker <rene@felker.com> wrote:
From: Rene Felker <rene@felker.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Max X-wind speed to taxi
It was 11 knots gusting to 22 Saturday and I had no problem.....
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Max X-wind speed to taxi
I spent several hours yesterday at the hanger re-arranging it to receive th
e
fuselage for final assembly.- The winds were 25 gusting to 35 and today i
t
will be higher.- The wind was almost straight down the runway.
This started me to thinking, I will have up to a quarter mile taxing to/fro
m
the runway at 90 deg to the wind.
Question: what is the max x-wind you have taxied your 10 in with no problem
s
and what do you use as your limit?- This is my first airplane with a free
castering nose gear and I am wondering how much of a problem this will
create.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Final Finishing - SB
(N2GB registered)
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le, List Admin.
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Subject: | Re: Max X-wind speed to taxi |
I can't answer your question for the -10 ..... I'm still building
.... but I have many hours in my Grumman (AA-1B) with similar nosegear.
Bear in mind that the -10 is bigger so .......
Power and good brakes will whip any crosswind .... short of hurricanes
and tornadoes! :-P so taxiing shouldn't be a problem. Once you
master the cross-controlled landing, it's a piece of cake ...... just
remember that there's a rudder back there and use it. You'll be amazed
at the number of 'high time pilots' that forget to move the rudder!!!
When you get a landing in a high crosswind .... write it down. That's
your demonstrated crosswind capability and should be in your aircraft
handbook. Keep it updated!!! My Grumman manual has a notation:
Demonstrated crosswind component 36 MPH, Nov. 10, 1999.
Having said all that, I don't think I'd go looking for a high number
just to say I did it!!!
Linn
orchidman wrote:
>
> I spent several hours yesterday at the hanger re-arranging it to receive the
fuselage for final assembly. The winds were 25 gusting to 35 and today it will
be higher. The wind was almost straight down the runway.
>
> This started me to thinking, I will have up to a quarter mile taxing to/from
the runway at 90 deg to the wind.
>
> Question: what is the max x-wind you have taxied your 10 in with no problems
and what do you use as your limit? This is my first airplane with a free castering
nose gear and I am wondering how much of a problem this will create.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> Final Finishing - SB
> (N2GB registered)
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Subject: | Re: Max X-wind speed to taxi |
I agree with Marcus...if it's safe to fly you can probably taxi it
fine too. I was VERY worried about how it would be to taxi with
no steering nosewheel. I found it to be a breeze in crosswinds,
pun intended. It really wasn't hard at all to get comfortable with.
When I went for transition training, I was in winds of 20-25 and even
30kts with good crosswinds some of the time. I think some local
AWOS systems even said 35. Yet the RV-10 seemed to be just great
in it all. For crosswind landings (and all landings) it certainly
beats everything else I've flown. Just like Marcus says, tap the
brakes when you need, use the rudder as much as is appropriate, and
never ride the brakes. The cirrus's have had brake fires from
dragging brakes. When the winds are 20+, taxi isn't the worry,
holding the doors when you open them is a bigger concern.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Marcus Cooper wrote:
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> Interesting question. I've had no issue taxiing in some pretty stiff winds.
> My opinion is that if it's safe to fly, it's safe to taxi (even if the
> direction is 90 degrees off for your taxi). The airplane is pretty stable,
> although you need to tap the brake sometimes to help. I would recommend
> against riding the brake though as it will certainly heat them more than you
> would like.
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> Marcus
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> I spent several hours yesterday at the hanger re-arranging it to receive the
> fuselage for final assembly. The winds were 25 gusting to 35 and today it
> will be higher. The wind was almost straight down the runway.
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> This started me to thinking, I will have up to a quarter mile taxing to/from
> the runway at 90 deg to the wind.
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> Question: what is the max x-wind you have taxied your 10 in with no problems
> and what do you use as your limit? This is my first airplane with a free
> castering nose gear and I am wondering how much of a problem this will
> create.
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OK, speaking of doors ..... has anyone suffered damage because the wind
caught the doors? Any other concerns with the doors??? Any 'fixes'
that you'd do when you're assembling the doors??? I'm getting ready
to do mine ..... educate me!!!
Linn
Tim Olson wrote:
> winds are 20+, taxi isn't the worry,
> holding the doors when you open them is a bigger concern.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Best add a strap you can hold onto when you open it. Also use it to
pull it closed.
I don't let my passengers open the door if there's any wind to speak
of.....
grumpy
N184JM
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On Mar 23, 2009, at 9:00 PM, linn wrote:
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> OK, speaking of doors ..... has anyone suffered damage because the
> wind caught the doors? Any other concerns with the doors??? Any
> 'fixes' that you'd do when you're assembling the doors??? I'm
> getting ready to do mine ..... educate me!!!
> Linn
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>> the winds are 20+, taxi isn't the worry,
>> holding the doors when you open them is a bigger concern.
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>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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The adjusting and making the doors line up will require you to "fix" that
fit after you trim everything
The trimming to get the doors to close will require a whole lot of "fixing"
the aligning/leveling of the doors with the canopy will require lots of
"fixing" with flox and micro
The whole door is a "fix", expect lots of hours fixing it to fit.
My advice concerning the seals is buy a smaller one than what Van's thinks
will work, it's pretty sad to see perfectly fitting doors not fit at all
after installing the seals and having to start all over again trying to
"fix" it to fit..
Have fun! I just finished mine took months to complete, but can be done in 1
month non stop, aka- I took breaks between pages to let things set and
replace electric tools that the composite cutting and mainly sanding
destroyed, .
Pascal
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From: "linn" <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 6:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: doors
>
> OK, speaking of doors ..... has anyone suffered damage because the wind
> caught the doors? Any other concerns with the doors??? Any 'fixes' that
> you'd do when you're assembling the doors??? I'm getting ready to do
> mine ..... educate me!!!
> Linn
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>> winds are 20+, taxi isn't the worry,
>> holding the doors when you open them is a bigger concern.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Subject: | Re: Wind screen fairing |
Is the fairing one piece? Can you post some close up pics? Thanks.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Gipson
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
Dave, we installed a metal fairing that Bud Warren fabricated. He
had done it before and was up to the challenge. I think it came out
quite nice. May save a paint job down the road should the windshield
need replacement. The installation was the easy part. Bud spent
several hours fashioning the fairing from a piece of sheet metal. This
job is for the experienced, not a novice or else you will probably be
disappointed.
Bill Gipson
N720WL
LS1 powered RV-10
Conroe, Texas
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:07 AM
To: RV-10 matronics
Subject: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has
anyone installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind
screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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We did a repair for a lucky customer whose door came open just after
take-off. He was able to land straight ahead. The door opened all the way,
broke the gas strut brackets off the door, but otherwise had no other
damage. We did a very thorough inspection of the hinges and other attach
structure and it was all fine.
I taxi with the doors open all the time. I think opening the doors in a
crosswind would be pretty safe, just a hassle because of all the other
wind-related issues, but I don't think you'd break anything.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:01 PM
Subject: RV10-List: doors
OK, speaking of doors ..... has anyone suffered damage because the wind
caught the doors? Any other concerns with the doors??? Any 'fixes'
that you'd do when you're assembling the doors??? I'm getting ready
to do mine ..... educate me!!!
Linn
Tim Olson wrote:
> winds are 20+, taxi isn't the worry,
> holding the doors when you open them is a bigger concern.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
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I just started mine, thanks for the vote of confidence... Sheeesh! ;-)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: doors
>
> The adjusting and making the doors line up will require you to "fix" that
> fit after you trim everything
> The trimming to get the doors to close will require a whole lot of
> "fixing"
> the aligning/leveling of the doors with the canopy will require lots of
> "fixing" with flox and micro
> The whole door is a "fix", expect lots of hours fixing it to fit.
> My advice concerning the seals is buy a smaller one than what Van's thinks
> will work, it's pretty sad to see perfectly fitting doors not fit at all
> after installing the seals and having to start all over again trying to
> "fix" it to fit..
> Have fun! I just finished mine took months to complete, but can be done in
> 1 month non stop, aka- I took breaks between pages to let things set and
> replace electric tools that the composite cutting and mainly sanding
> destroyed, .
>
> Pascal
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "linn" <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 6:00 PM
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: doors
>
>>
>> OK, speaking of doors ..... has anyone suffered damage because the wind
>> caught the doors? Any other concerns with the doors??? Any 'fixes' that
>> you'd do when you're assembling the doors??? I'm getting ready to do
>> mine ..... educate me!!!
>> Linn
>>
>> Tim Olson wrote:
>>> winds are 20+, taxi isn't the worry,
>>> holding the doors when you open them is a bigger concern.
>>>
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> do not archive
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think of it this way..
expect the worst, like my fixing, and be pleasantly surprised when you
discover I had no idea what I was doing and you get it done without any
issues. Sure beats me telling you its easy; just trim, tuck and snip snip
and your done.
You'll thank me one day ;-)
Pascal
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From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: doors
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> I just started mine, thanks for the vote of confidence... Sheeesh! ;-)
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> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:30 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: doors
>
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>>
>> The adjusting and making the doors line up will require you to "fix" that
>> fit after you trim everything
>> The trimming to get the doors to close will require a whole lot of
>> "fixing"
>> the aligning/leveling of the doors with the canopy will require lots of
>> "fixing" with flox and micro
>> The whole door is a "fix", expect lots of hours fixing it to fit.
>> My advice concerning the seals is buy a smaller one than what Van's
>> thinks will work, it's pretty sad to see perfectly fitting doors not fit
>> at all after installing the seals and having to start all over again
>> trying to "fix" it to fit..
>> Have fun! I just finished mine took months to complete, but can be done
>> in 1 month non stop, aka- I took breaks between pages to let things set
>> and replace electric tools that the composite cutting and mainly sanding
>> destroyed, .
>>
>> Pascal
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "linn" <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 6:00 PM
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RV10-List: doors
>>
>>>
>>> OK, speaking of doors ..... has anyone suffered damage because the wind
>>> caught the doors? Any other concerns with the doors??? Any 'fixes'
>>> that you'd do when you're assembling the doors??? I'm getting ready
>>> to do mine ..... educate me!!!
>>> Linn
>>>
>>> Tim Olson wrote:
>>>> winds are 20+, taxi isn't the worry,
>>>> holding the doors when you open them is a bigger concern.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>>> do not archive
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If I was going o do them again,,,, GOD forbid,- I would insert a strength
ening plate aft of the door handle.- Then you'd have something to actuall
y fasten a strap to.
My 2 cents.
Don McDonald
Received the FAA's blessing today with an airworthiness cert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--- On Mon, 3/23/09, linn <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: linn <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RV10-List: doors
OK, speaking of doors ..... has anyone suffered damage because the wind cau
ght the doors?- Any other concerns with the doors???- Any 'fixes' that
you'd do when you're assembling the doors???- - I'm getting ready to do
mine ..... educate me!!!
Linn
Tim Olson wrote:
the winds are 20+, taxi isn't the worry,
> holding the doors when you open them is a bigger concern.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
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