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Sat 03/28/09


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 05:06 AM - Generation 3 Ignition (Generation 3 ignition)
     2. 06:07 AM - Generation 3 Ignition (Generation 3 ignition)
     3. 10:50 AM - Re: Re: Rv-10 Carbon panels (Larry Rosen)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:06:03 AM PST US
    From: "Generation 3 ignition" <mail@g3ignition.com>
    Subject: Generation 3 Ignition
    Hello Dave, All mags should be inspected @ the recommended time interval. Example, I have inspected Slick mags with 400hrs on them and they were excellent for the G3i system modification. Depending on what fails in the mag, in some scenarios, the electronic will back -up the mag and continue to fire just fine. During run-up, a system off, normal (L-R) mag drop is recommended to revel any potential ignition problems. We do the mag modification here and inspections/ repairs. Since the spark plug gap is slightly larger than the stock (.018") recommendation. New total air gap being increased to .020" - .026" the secondary voltage range to ionize the spark adds roughly .2 - .5kv to the overall window. It is the synchronized multiple discharge that make the G3i systems performs so well. Here is a link to Larry Vettermans/ Vettermans Exhaust website scroll down to Hartzell Blended Airfoil vs Whirlwind 200RV Series props on my RV-7A..Larry Vetterman for info. on his test findings or give him a call. Sincerely, Thomas Shpakow ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Leikam To: Generation 3 Ignition Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:59 PM Subject: ***SPAM***Re: FormContactus Do the mags still need overhaul at 500 hours? What does the system do in the case of a mag failure? I plan to order a stock IO-540 from Van's Aircraft in a few weeks. Can I send you the mags for conversion? Is the spark voltage energy increased over standard mag voltage? So far your system sounds very good however I have not been able to get much feedback in the field about it. How many systems do you have flying? Thanks for taking the barrage of questions!! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: Generation 3 Ignition To: daveleikam@wi.rr.com Cc: G3i Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Re: FormContactus Hello Dave, Well, there is really no comparison, Slick/Unison LASAR would be the closest since it still has the mag redundancy. There are many benefits to electronic ignitions systems out there, however our product has the best fall back on redundancy available. You don't have to run half a ignition system to still have mag redundancy. Its doesn't require back-up batteries to still operate if you lose the aircraft electrical system, and/or if a sensor or some other electronic ignition component fails, the G3i system reverts back to the original magnetos to still continue ignition firing. The G3i system fires both ignition systems together in perfect sync. which produces engine smoothness and performance/economy gains. Fuel economy gains are realistically are from 8% to 14%. On static dynamotor test pulls, 2% - 5% has been record in pounds of thrust @ 100% power. On starting the G3i provides multiple spark to both L&R ignitions instantly in sync. making starting much easier. Does not need 3 crankshaft revolutions to see a signal on when to fire. Installation is straight forward and easily done. Please ck out our website on the install manual or give us a call about our product. We will be in KOSH Airventure booth 1148 this year also. Thank you for you inquiry. Sincerely, Thomas Shpakow Interfacing Aircraft Magnetos Electronic Multiple Spark Technology GENERATION 3 IGNITION 2331 W. Hampden Ave. 130 Englewood, CO. 80110 T 303-781-9449 C 303-906-6846 F 303-806-5120 www.g3ignition.com mail@g3ignition.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <daveleikam@wi.rr.com> To: <mail@g3ignition.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:56 PM Subject: FormContactus > Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by > (daveleikam@wi.rr.com) on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 at 21:56:57 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > name2: Dave > Last name: Leikam > address: S79W16389 Woods Rd > city2: Muskego > state2: WI > zip: 53150 > phone number: 414-807-5499 > email2: daveleikam@wi.rr.com > hearabout: matronics RV-10 list > question: How does your system compare to LASAR or Electroair and others? > I am building an RV-10. I was considering Electroair until I saw your product. > Ease of install? Any better performance than others? Thanks. > > Dave Leikam > RV-10 > Submit32: Submit > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- >


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    Time: 06:07:14 AM PST US
    From: "Generation 3 ignition" <mail@g3ignition.com>
    Subject: Generation 3 Ignition
    Hello Dave, All mags should be inspected @ the recommended time interval. Example, I have inspected Slick mags with 400hrs on them and they were excellent for the G3i system modification. Depending on what fails in the mag, in some scenarios, the electronic will back -up the mag and continue to fire just fine. During run-up, a system off, normal (L-R) mag drop is recommended to revel any potential ignition problems. We do the mag modification here and inspections/ repairs. Since the spark plug gap is slightly larger than the stock (.018") recommendation. New total air gap being increased to .020" - .026" the secondary voltage range to ionize the spark adds roughly .2 - .5kv to the overall window. It is the synchronized multiple discharge that make the G3i systems performs so well. Here is a link to Larry Vettermans/ Vettermans Exhaust website scroll down to Hartzell Blended Airfoil vs Whirlwind 200RV Series props on my RV-7A..Larry Vetterman for info. on his test findings or give him a call. Sincerely, Thomas Shpakow Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:59 PM Subject: FormContactus Do the mags still need overhaul at 500 hours? What does the system do in the case of a mag failure? I plan to order a stock IO-540 from Van's Aircraft in a few weeks. Can I send you the mags for conversion? Is the spark voltage energy increased over standard mag voltage? So far your system sounds very good however I have not been able to get much feedback in the field about it. How many systems do you have flying? Thanks for taking the barrage of questions!! Dave Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Re: FormContactus Hello Dave, Well, there is really no comparison, Slick/Unison LASAR would be the closest since it still has the mag redundancy. There are many benefits to electronic ignitions systems out there, however our product has the best fall back on redundancy available. You don't have to run half a ignition system to still have mag redundancy. Its doesn't require back-up batteries to still operate if you lose the aircraft electrical system, and/or if a sensor or some other electronic ignition component fails, the G3i system reverts back to the original magnetos to still continue ignition firing. The G3i system fires both ignition systems together in perfect sync. which produces engine smoothness and performance/economy gains. Fuel economy gains are realistically are from 8% to 14%. On static dynamotor test pulls, 2% - 5% has been record in pounds of thrust @ 100% power. On starting the G3i provides multiple spark to both L&R ignitions instantly in sync. making starting much easier. Does not need 3 crankshaft revolutions to see a signal on when to fire. Installation is straight forward and easily done. Please ck out our website on the install manual or give us a call about our product. We will be in KOSH Airventure booth 1148 this year also. Thank you for you inquiry. Sincerely, Thomas Shpakow Interfacing Aircraft Magnetos Electronic Multiple Spark Technology GENERATION 3 IGNITION 2331 W. Hampden Ave. 130 Englewood, CO. 80110 T 303-781-9449 C 303-906-6846 F 303-806-5120 www.g3ignition.com mail@g3ignition.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:56 PM Subject: FormContactus > hearabout: matronics RV-10 list > question: How does your system compare to LASAR or Electroair and others? > I am building an RV-10. I was considering Electroair until I saw your product. > Ease of install? Any better performance than others? Thanks. > > Dave > RV-10 > Submit32: Submit > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- >


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    Time: 10:50:14 AM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <N205EN@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Rv-10 Carbon panels
    For a easy to use drag and drop type instrument panel designer, I like Xpanel <http://www.xpanelsoftware.com/>. They have a free web based tool with only basic functions. The desk top version allows importing avionics that are not in the database along with creating new panel templates. To get more precision use a drawing package like visio, autocad, etc. Larry Mike Much wrote: > > What's the best program to use to design or layout your panel - I see > a few on the web but they don't appear to be compatible with auto cad > files. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Combs" > <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:13 PM > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Rv-10 Carbon panels > > > Here are the .DWG file for the panel cut outs > > Geoff Combs > President > Aerosport Modeling & Design > 8090 Howe Industrial Parkway > Canal Winchester, Ohio 43110 > 614-834-5227p > 614-834-5230f > www.aerosportmodeling.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:30 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Rv-10 Carbon panels > > > > Geoff you mentioned you did it in Solidworks. Will you allow that > program > output to be printed for placement of other devices? Will you price > separately the console and lower unit for Old Men who cry? As I said > before > your price was dead on. I love the competition, quality improvement and > pricing. > > John Cox > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:56 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Rv-10 Carbon panels > > > Geoff, > Do you have a drawing of the panel, preferably an autocad dwg, that you > could send me? > > Larry Rosen > >




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