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1. 09:31 AM - Baggage door lock (Rob Kochman)
2. 10:06 AM - Re: Baggage door lock (Larry Rosen)
3. 10:06 AM - Re: Baggage door lock (Vernon Smith)
4. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: Removing Weldon (Michael Kraus)
5. 10:27 AM - Re: Baggage door lock (n277dl)
6. 10:37 AM - Re: Baggage door lock (pascal)
7. 10:38 AM - Re: Baggage door lock (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
8. 11:40 AM - RV-10 Nest at Sun n' Fun (woxofswa)
9. 11:51 AM - Re: Re: Baggage door lock (pascal)
10. 03:06 PM - Re: Baggage door lock (McGANN, Ron)
11. 04:41 PM - Re: Baggage door lock (Carl Froehlich)
12. 05:04 PM - Re: Wind screen fairing (Bill Gipson)
13. 05:14 PM - Re: Baggage door lock (Rob Kochman)
14. 07:29 PM - Re: timing advance (Generation 3 Ignition)
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| Subject: | Baggage door lock |
Anyone know of a specific model lock that will work with the baggage door on
the RV-10? I bought one at Home Depot yesterday, but it has a different
style latch (thinner and smaller "hole" than the Van's F-1062 latch that
ships with the kit). Before I attempt to make the Home Depot lock/latch
work, I wanted to see if anyone is aware of a lock that will just work with
the latch in the kit. Note I'm not using the ignition switch, so it didn't
make sense to buy that set from Van's.
Thanks...
-Rob
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Rob Kochman
RV-10 Wings
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: Baggage door lock |
They are Aircraft Spruce locks.
ACS p/n 11-01600
They are shold in sets of 2 for $26.60
<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/igswitches.php>
towards the bottom of the page.
Larry Rosen
Rob Kochman wrote:
> Anyone know of a specific model lock that will work with the baggage
> door on the RV-10? I bought one at Home Depot yesterday, but it has a
> different style latch (thinner and smaller "hole" than the Van's
> F-1062 latch that ships with the kit). Before I attempt to make the
> Home Depot lock/latch work, I wanted to see if anyone is aware of a
> lock that will just work with the latch in the kit. Note I'm not
> using the ignition switch, so it didn't make sense to buy that set
> from Van's.
>
> Thanks...
>
> -Rob
>
> --
> Rob Kochman
> RV-10 Wings
> Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
> http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Baggage door lock |
Hi Rob=2C
This is what I used from Aircraft Spruce. They feel a little more solid tha
n the locks at Home Depot.
NOTE: It only comes with one key even though two are pictured.
Vern Smith (Finishing #324)
do not archive
Click Image to Enlarge
ACS DOOR AND
BAGGAGE LOCK SETS
P/N 11-01600 $26.60
The door and baggage locks furnished with the ignition switches above are a
lso available separately. Set of two locks (one door and one baggage lock)
furnished with one key mated to both locks. The baggage lock may be used as
second door lock if preferred.
Subject: RV10-List: Baggage door lock
From: rv10rob@gmail.com
Anyone know of a specific model lock that will work with the baggage door o
n the RV-10? I bought one at Home Depot yesterday=2C but it has a differen
t style latch (thinner and smaller "hole" than the Van's F-1062 latch that
ships with the kit). Before I attempt to make the Home Depot lock/latch wo
rk=2C I wanted to see if anyone is aware of a lock that will just work with
the latch in the kit. Note I'm not using the ignition switch=2C so it did
n't make sense to buy that set from Van's.
Thanks...
-Rob
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Rob Kochman
RV-10 Wings
Woodinville=2C WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: Removing Weldon |
I used acetone and a lot of rubbing...... Worked for me
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 29, 2009, at 9:10 PM, "tomhanaway" <tomhanaway@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
> I had some run off of weldon on the inside of the plexi on the first
> window I installed. I tried several different polishing systems to
> get it off but really wasn't happy with the result in such a high
> visibility area. The glass still had a haze to it. I finally bit
> the bullet and ordered a replacement plexiglas window.
> 5 months down the road on the build and I'm really glad I did a
> complete replacement. No second guessing if it could have been done
> better. And I knew how not to do the window.
>
> Hint-be very careful that the masking tape is tightly sealed so you
> don't get any weldon seeping under it. I found the 3m auto
> detailing tape from an auto body shop much better than any of the
> painting masking tapes from Home Depot or equivalent.
>
> Tom H.
> Boynton Beach, FL
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=236759#236759
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| Subject: | Re: Baggage door lock |
Speaking of baggage door locks....
anyone remember where I put the key to mine? :D :D My wife swears I didn't
give it to her. I know it's put up somewhere just can't remember where.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--------
Doug
"Fools" are always more creative than process people and will always
find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=236881#236881
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| Subject: | Re: Baggage door lock |
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/08fuselage/fuselage34a.html
These work.
Pascal
From: Rob Kochman
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:27 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Baggage door lock
Anyone know of a specific model lock that will work with the baggage
door on the RV-10? I bought one at Home Depot yesterday, but it has a
different style latch (thinner and smaller "hole" than the Van's F-1062
latch that ships with the kit). Before I attempt to make the Home Depot
lock/latch work, I wanted to see if anyone is aware of a lock that will
just work with the latch in the kit. Note I'm not using the ignition
switch, so it didn't make sense to buy that set from Van's.
Thanks...
-Rob
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Rob Kochman
RV-10 Wings
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Baggage door lock |
That's odd as I got my locks from HD also and had no problem putting it in
the baggage door. If you watch for them, you can usually find 3 keyed alik
e for the baggage and main doors.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:27 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Baggage door lock
Anyone know of a specific model lock that will work with the baggage door o
n the RV-10? I bought one at Home Depot yesterday, but it has a different
style latch (thinner and smaller "hole" than the Van's F-1062 latch that sh
ips with the kit). Before I attempt to make the Home Depot lock/latch work
, I wanted to see if anyone is aware of a lock that will just work with the
latch in the kit. Note I'm not using the ignition switch, so it didn't ma
ke sense to buy that set from Van's.
Thanks...
-Rob
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Rob Kochman
RV-10 Wings
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | RV-10 Nest at Sun n' Fun |
If someone is planning on a get together site at SnF and/or Osh, I have a "RV-10
Nest" banner that I had made for Copperstate that I would gladly forward to
future site hosts. Maybe we can start a tradition.
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=236893#236893
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| Subject: | Re: Baggage door lock |
find the lock number and get another key made based on the code- if it's a
AS purchased call them they can get you the key, if it's Home depot, go
there and buy another lock with the same number.
No time to be looking for keys when there is other stuff, like tools, to
find and building the plane.
Are you sure your wife didn't take it?? maybe a bargaining chip for future
use?? hmm
good luck with that key either way.
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From: "n277dl" <dljinia@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:25 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Baggage door lock
>
> Speaking of baggage door locks....
>
> anyone remember where I put the key to mine? :D :D My wife swears I
> didn't give it to her. I know it's put up somewhere just can't remember
> where.
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> --------
> Doug
> "Fools" are always more creative than process people and will
> always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=236881#236881
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Baggage door lock |
I used the 2 keyed alike Spruce locks on the baggage door and pilot's
door. That left the copilot side door to lock. I did not really want
another lock on the RHS, so built an internal 'lock' for the RHS door.
A piece of angle with a nut/bolt that prevents retracting the rack.
Took 5 minutes to make, is very secure, is easy to insert/remove and
there is no way you can open the door from the outside (or inside for
that matter).
Cheers,
Ron
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 4:04 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Baggage door lock
That's odd as I got my locks from HD also and had no problem putting it
in the baggage door. If you watch for them, you can usually find 3
keyed alike for the baggage and main doors.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:27 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Baggage door lock
Anyone know of a specific model lock that will work with the baggage
door on the RV-10? I bought one at Home Depot yesterday, but it has a
different style latch (thinner and smaller "hole" than the Van's F-1062
latch that ships with the kit). Before I attempt to make the Home Depot
lock/latch work, I wanted to see if anyone is aware of a lock that will
just work with the latch in the kit. Note I'm not using the ignition
switch, so it didn't make sense to buy that set from Van's.
Thanks...
-Rob
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RV-10 Wings
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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| Subject: | Baggage door lock |
I'll use a tubular key cam lock. I have one on the baggage door of my 8A as
I was concerned that a flat key could break off in the lock more easily than
a tubular key.
For the 10, recommend the MFW-1058 from Fort Lock. Here is a link:
http://www.securitybase.com/Web_store/ws400CS.cgi?category=Cam+Locks
<http://www.securitybase.com/Web_store/ws400CS.cgi?category=Cam+Locks&no_sea
rch=Y> &no_search=Y
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (450 hrs)
RV-10 (fuselage)
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:27 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Baggage door lock
Anyone know of a specific model lock that will work with the baggage door on
the RV-10? I bought one at Home Depot yesterday, but it has a different
style latch (thinner and smaller "hole" than the Van's F-1062 latch that
ships with the kit). Before I attempt to make the Home Depot lock/latch
work, I wanted to see if anyone is aware of a lock that will just work with
the latch in the kit. Note I'm not using the ignition switch, so it didn't
make sense to buy that set from Van's.
Thanks...
-Rob
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Wings
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Wind screen fairing |
Was at the airport this weekend and got these close-ups as requested. The
fairing is two pieces with a knuckle joint in the center. The fairing is
held on with rivnuts and the void between the fairing and winshield/skin is
filled with black RTV for water-tight seal.
Regards,
Bill Gipson
RV-10 Flying
N720WL
LS1 powered RV-10
Conroe, Texas
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
Is the fairing one piece? Can you post some close up pics? Thanks.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Gipson <mailto:gipsowh@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
Dave, we installed a metal fairing that Bud Warren fabricated. He had done
it before and was up to the challenge. I think it came out quite nice.
May save a paint job down the road should the windshield need replacement.
The installation was the easy part. Bud spent several hours fashioning the
fairing from a piece of sheet metal. This job is for the experienced, not a
novice or else you will probably be disappointed.
Bill Gipson
N720WL
LS1 powered RV-10
Conroe, Texas
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:07 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone
installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen,
would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Baggage door lock |
Thanks, all, for the advice. Sounds like I'll be placing an order with ACS
in the near future.
-Rob
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone know of a specific model lock that will work with the baggage door
> on the RV-10? I bought one at Home Depot yesterday, but it has a different
> style latch (thinner and smaller "hole" than the Van's F-1062 latch that
> ships with the kit). Before I attempt to make the Home Depot lock/latch
> work, I wanted to see if anyone is aware of a lock that will just work with
> the latch in the kit. Note I'm not using the ignition switch, so it didn't
> make sense to buy that set from Van's.
>
> Thanks...
>
> -Rob
>
> --
> Rob Kochman
> RV-10 Wings
> Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
> http://kochman.net/N819K
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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RV-10 Wings
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: timing advance |
Hello Dave,
Well first off, we all know the aircraft engine is of large
displacement, which has a very small rpm window of operation, and to top
it off also, it has very poor air/fuel atomization with a huge
combustion chamber. So, how? Well the fuel economy and extra hp comes
from the Multiple Spark Discharge (MSD). When the first firing event of
the MSD takes place, a flame front is created. As this flame front is
burning in the combustion chamber, there is a swirling turbulence that
takes place. Drawing unburned air/fuel mixture passed the spark plugs.
This is where the MSD come into play. The second and third firing event
then ignites this air/fuel mixture, which creates a quicker complete
burn of the air/fuel mixture as the piston passes through TDC. The MSD
spark is not hotter and doesn't need to be, that is why we do not use
huge spark plug air gaps. As the saying goes, screwing a 75 watt light
bulb into a 300 watt socket the bulb is not going to burn any brighter.
The others all claim to get their advantage from timing advance along
with hotter spark. The key word in the sentence is "spark" that's
singular. With one spark you need more time to get that complete
combustion since it is so slow. The only way is to ramp up (advance)
the timing close to the verge of detonation, and also deliver a hotter
spark hoping that it will have a better chance (only chance) of
ignition. With these timing advances, the cylinder pressures go up
tremendously as the piston travels towards and over TDC. This creates
more ware on engine internals from these pressures. As for a =BD and =BD
mag/electronic advance ignition system.. For example, the electronics
are firing @, let's say 35 degrees and the mag is set at 25 degrees.
Since the combustion has already started, that mag is now confronted
with firing though an incredible amount of cylinder pressure, if it can
at all. I have seen mag failure on the =BD and =BD systems. I hope this
helps some, these will be some of the topics spoken in great detail @
our booth at AirVenture this year.
Sincerely,
Thomas S.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:43 PM
Subject: ***SPAM***Re: FormContactus timing advance
So you are saying there is negligible benefit to advancing timing
greater than 25 degrees BTDC below 12,500 pressure altitude and only a
1% advantage above? Where then does the fuel economy and extra hp you
see with your system come from? The hotter spark? I am really trying
to understand all the different systems out there and yours seems to be
the easiest to install, and I like the mag back-up. But the others all
claim to get their advantage from timing advance along with hotter
spark. I'll be frank, I am torn between your system and Electroair. I
would use a single mag and the Electroair system. Sell me on yours.
Thanks!!
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: FormContactus timing advance
Hello Dave,
The G3i system dose not have a timing advance built in. A timing
control module can be added which will give you a adjustable timing
window of 15 degrees from base timing angle. We found in flight
testing/research working with different timing angles, the benefits of
economy and performance of running more than a couple of degrees higher
than the stock manufacture timing setting were not all that beneficial
below 12K. And less than 1% @ altitudes above 12,500ft and less than
60% power. All performance and economy specs.show are @ the stock engine
manufacturer timing angle.
Sincerely,
Thomas Shpakow
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:29 PM
Subject: ***SPAM***Re: FormContactus
Does your system advance timing?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: FormContactus
Hello Dave,
Well, there is really no comparison, Slick/Unison LASAR would be
the closest since it still has the mag redundancy. There are many
benefits to electronic ignitions systems out there, however our product
has the best fall back on redundancy available. You don't have to run
half a ignition system to still have mag redunecy. Its doesn't require
back-up batteries to still operate if you lose the aircraft electrical
system, and/or if a sensor or some other electronic ignition component
fails, the G3i system reverts back to the original magnetos to still
continue ignition firing. The G3i system fires both ignition systems
together in perfect sync. which produces engine smoothness and
performance/economy gains. Fuel economy gains are realistically are from
8% to 14%. On static dynamotor test pulls, 2% - 5% has been record in
pounds of thrust @ 100% power. On starting the G3i provides multiple
spark to both L&R ignitions instantly in sync. making starting much
easier. Does not need 3 crankshaft revolutions to see a signal on when
to fire. Installation is straight forward and easily done. Please ck out
our website on the insall manual or give us a call about our product.
We will be in KOSH Airventure booth 1148 this year also.
Thank you for you inquiry.
Sincerely,
Thomas Shpakow
Interfacing Aircraft Magnetos
Electronic Multiple Spark Technology
GENERATION 3 IGNITION
2331 W. Hampden Ave. 130
Englewood, CO. 80110
T 303-781-9449
C 303-906-6846
F 303-806-5120
www.g3ignition.com
mail@g3ignition.com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:56 PM
Subject: FormContactus
> hearabout: matronics RV-10 list
> question: How does your system compare to LASAR or Electroair
and others?
> I am building an RV-10. I was considering Electroair until I
saw your product.
> Ease of install? Any better performance than others? Thanks.
>
> Dave Leikam
> RV-10
> Submit32: Submit
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