---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/05/09: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:44 AM - Re: EGT Sensors installation and clocking (jim@CombsFive.Com) 2. 04:44 AM - Re: EGT Sensors installation and clocking (jim@CombsFive.Com) 3. 04:57 AM - Re: EGT Sensors installation and clocking (jim@CombsFive.Com) 4. 07:03 AM - Re: EGT Sensors installation and clocking (Kevin Belue) 5. 08:27 AM - Ethernet Hub (Jeff Carpenter) 6. 09:38 AM - Re: Ethernet Hub (Bill Mauledriver Watson) 7. 10:12 AM - Re: Behind the Panel... (Jeff Carpenter) 8. 10:19 AM - Re: Ethernet Hub (Dj Merrill) 9. 10:21 AM - Re: Ethernet Hub (N777TY) 10. 10:45 AM - Re: Re: Ethernet Hub (Larry Rosen) 11. 11:00 AM - Re: Ethernet Hub (Dave Leikam) 12. 11:00 AM - Re: EGT Sensors installation and clocking (Vernon Smith) 13. 01:24 PM - Re: Ethernet Hub (SteinAir, Inc.) 14. 02:45 PM - Re: EGT Sensors installation and clocking (jim@CombsFive.Com) 15. 03:05 PM - Re: Ethernet Hub (jim@CombsFive.Com) 16. 03:07 PM - Re: EGT Sensors installation and clocking (jim@CombsFive.Com) 17. 05:05 PM - Re: Ethernet Hub (Fred Williams, M.D.) 18. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: Ethernet Hub () 19. 06:28 PM - Re: Re: Ethernet Hub (Jesse Saint) 20. 07:26 PM - Re: Extra battery (Miller John) 21. 07:54 PM - Re: Extra battery (ricksked@embarqmail.com) 22. 08:13 PM - Re: Extra battery (David McNeill) 23. 08:15 PM - Re: Extra battery (David McNeill) 24. 08:38 PM - Re: Extra battery (Patrick Pulis) 25. 10:29 PM - Re: Extra battery (Rene) 26. 11:07 PM - Re: Extra battery (Don McDonald) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:43 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: EGT Sensors installation and clocking From: jim@CombsFive.Com Vern, Here is a front view from the front. There is a right angle fitting at the fuel servo and the line runs along side it back to the fuel pump. The DAR suggested and helped me attach the scat tubing to the fuel line for the same reason. Get it away from the exhaust. Jim Combs N312F - Flying (50+ hours) 40192 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim, Do you ( or anyone else) have a photo of the area about 6" under the pictures you sent? I'm trying to figure out the best routing for the fuel line from the mechanical fuel pump to the Bendix servo to get it away from the exhaust. Thanks, Vern Smith (#324 finishing) do not archive Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:35:28 -0400 Subject: Re: RV10-List: EGT Sensors installation and clocking From: jim@CombsFive.Com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Here is the left side of my installation. Picture xx35 is the front / middle pipes, xx34 is the middle and rear cylinders. I used the same clocking on the other side (leads go toward the prop). Jim C N312F - Flying (40192) Do Not Archive --> RV10-List message posted by: "AirMike" I have the AFS3500 EGT kit. Any suggestions or better yet pictures of the final installed position of the sensors? I was told to install 2" out from the flange on the engine. I am worried about the clocking so that the wire ends do not interfere with the cowling. Any suggestions, comments and pictures appreciated -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237488#237488 _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile1_042009 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:44 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: EGT Sensors installation and clocking From: jim@CombsFive.Com Vern, Here is a front view from the front. There is a right angle fitting at the fuel servo and the line runs along side it back to the fuel pump. The DAR suggested and helped me attach the scat tubing to the fuel line for the same reason. Get it away from the exhaust. Jim Combs N312F - Flying (50+ hours) 40192 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim, Do you ( or anyone else) have a photo of the area about 6" under the pictures you sent? I'm trying to figure out the best routing for the fuel line from the mechanical fuel pump to the Bendix servo to get it away from the exhaust. Thanks, Vern Smith (#324 finishing) do not archive Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:35:28 -0400 Subject: Re: RV10-List: EGT Sensors installation and clocking From: jim@CombsFive.Com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Here is the left side of my installation. Picture xx35 is the front / middle pipes, xx34 is the middle and rear cylinders. I used the same clocking on the other side (leads go toward the prop). Jim C N312F - Flying (40192) Do Not Archive --> RV10-List message posted by: "AirMike" I have the AFS3500 EGT kit. Any suggestions or better yet pictures of the final installed position of the sensors? I was told to install 2" out from the flange on the engine. I am worried about the clocking so that the wire ends do not interfere with the cowling. Any suggestions, comments and pictures appreciated -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237488#237488 _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile1_042009 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:57 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: EGT Sensors installation and clocking From: jim@CombsFive.Com VErn, Here are a couple more. Jim Combs N312F - Flying ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim, Do you ( or anyone else) have a photo of the area about 6" under the pictures you sent? I'm trying to figure out the best routing for the fuel line from the mechanical fuel pump to the Bendix servo to get it away from the exhaust. Thanks, Vern Smith (#324 finishing) do not archive Subject: Re: RV10-List: EGT Sensors installation and clocking From: jim@CombsFive.Com Here is the left side of my installation. Picture xx35 is the front / middle pipes, xx34 is the middle and rear cylinders. I used the same clocking on the other side (leads go toward the prop). Jim C N312F - Flying (40192) Do Not Archive --> RV10-List message posted by: "AirMike" I have the AFS3500 EGT kit. Any suggestions or better yet pictures of the final installed position of the sensors? I was told to install 2" out from the flange on the engine. I am worried about the clocking so that the wire ends do not interfere with the cowling. Any suggestions, comments and pictures appreciated -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237488#237488 _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile1_042009 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:04 AM PST US From: Kevin Belue Subject: Re: RV10-List: EGT Sensors installation and clocking Jim, I noticed that you have a straight (flat) mixture arm in your photos. I had one like that and couldn't get it to fit with the air filter box. I had to buy the dogleg version as shown in the plans. Have you fitted the airbox yet? Kevin Belue RV-6A flying RV-10 flying Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:56 AM, jim@CombsFive.Com wrote: > VErn, > > Here are a couple more. > > Jim Combs > N312F - Flying > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Jim, > > Do you ( or anyone else) have a photo of the area about 6" under the > pictures you sent? I'm trying to figure out the best routing for the > fuel > line from the mechanical fuel pump to the Bendix servo to get it > away from > the exhaust. > > Thanks, > > Vern Smith (#324 finishing) > do not archive > > Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:35:28 -0400 > Subject: Re: RV10-List: EGT Sensors installation and clocking > From: jim@CombsFive.Com > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Here is the left side of my installation. Picture xx35 is the front > / middle pipes, xx34 is the middle and rear cylinders. I used the > same clocking on the other side (leads go toward the prop). > > Jim > C > N312F - Flying (40192) > > Do Not Archive > --> > > > I have the AFS3500 EGT kit. Any > suggestions or better yet pictures of the > final installed position of > the sensors? > > I was told to install 2" out from the flange > on the engine. I am worried > about the clocking so that the wire ends > do not interfere with the > cowling. > > Any suggestions, > comments and pictures appreciated > > -------- > OSH '08 or Bust > (busted) be there in "09 > Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237488#237488 > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Rediscover Hotmail: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile1_042009 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:25 AM PST US From: Jeff Carpenter Subject: RV10-List: Ethernet Hub In my quest to find a small ethernet hub (for the two AFS units to talk to each other) yesterday I discovered that the common Linksys and Netgear models are 7.5V. Should I be able to find a 12V hub? If not, how do I step the voltage down? Jeff Carpenter 40304 N410CF ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:38:42 AM PST US From: Bill Mauledriver Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ethernet Hub GRT recently shipped me a unit to connect my 3 GRT units. It was a bit pricey at $165. I questioned whether I should be able to just go out and find a hub for a better price. They commented that this is an 'industrial' or 'commercial' grade product and that I might have a hard time finding something equivalent. It's a EIBA5100T/R (DIN- rail mount) from Comtemporary Controls. The installation guides says "....hubs are designed for the Building Automation Environment". It has 5 ports, it s 3.5x3.31 by 1". It can be powered by AC 8-24V or DC 10-36V - no setup reuqired www.ccontrols.com Looks good to this builder. Bill Watson 40605 Jeff Carpenter wrote: > > In my quest to find a small ethernet hub (for the two AFS units to > talk to each other) yesterday I discovered that the common Linksys and > Netgear models are 7.5V. Should I be able to find a 12V hub? If > not, how do I step the voltage down? > > Jeff Carpenter > 40304 > N410CF > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:01 AM PST US From: Jeff Carpenter Subject: Re: RV10-List: Behind the Panel... anyone have the foot print of the AFX WX Receiver? On Apr 3, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Jesse Saint wrote: > > Nav antenna diplexer(s). > Instrument cooling fan? > Ammeter shunt? > AFS wx receiver? > Ethernet hub? > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation > jesse@saintaviation.com > 352-427-0285 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Jeff Carpenter > wrote: > >> >> >> Good point Bob... the general panel plan is this: >> >> AFS Advanced Deck EE >> AFS 3400 EE >> GNS 430W >> SL-30 >> GTX-330 >> PMA-9000EX >> TruTrack DIgiFlight IIVSGV >> >> The Alternator will be the 60 amp Plane Power >> >> Jeff >> >> On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Jeff, >>> >>> It would help to know what was going in your plane/panel... >>> >>> - If B&C alternator you'll need to put the regulator(s) there. >>> - If GRT EIS you'll need to mount the manifold pressure sensor there >>> - The forest of tabs should be in the aft side of the firewall >>> rather >>> than the subpanel >>> - If you've got an AFS AOA the process will go on the subpanel >>> - potentially an AHRS or GADHRS depending on the EFIS >>> - Potentially a Wx receiver >>> >>> Bob >>> N442PM (flying) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff >>> Carpenter >>> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 5:17 PM >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: RV10-List: Behind the Panel... >>> >>> >>> >>> Here's a list of the electrical items that will be mounted behind my >>> instrument panel: >>> >>> Trim Servo Controller >>> 2 Fuse Blocks >>> 1 Terminal Strip >>> ARINC Converter >>> Forrest of Ground Tabs >>> Ethernet Hub >>> >>> Have I forgotten anything? >>> >>> Jeff Carpenter >>> 40304 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:19:39 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ethernet Hub From: Dj Merrill Jeff Carpenter wrote: > In my quest to find a small ethernet hub (for the two AFS units to talk > to each other) yesterday I discovered that the common Linksys and > Netgear models are 7.5V. Should I be able to find a 12V hub? If not, > how do I step the voltage down? Hi Jeff, If you only have two ethernet devices, you should be able to use an ethernet cross-over cable and have no need for a ethernet hub/switch. If you have 3 or more ethernet devices, you'll need a hub or switch. Here is a link to a typical cross-over cable: Here are lots more to choose from: Here are lots of ethernet switches - One of them will likely run off 12v directly: Does AFS have any recommendations? If you can use a direct cross-over cable, that would be best I think. -Dj -- Dj Merrill - N1JOV Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ KR-2 Builder N770DJ http://deej.net/sportsman/ http://deej.net/kr-2/ "Many things that are unexplainable happen during the construction of an airplane." --Dave Prizio, 30 Aug 2005 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:17 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Ethernet Hub From: "N777TY" That manufacturer sells online.. EIBA5-100T/R Five-port 10BASE-T/100BASE-TX switching hub, DIN-rail mount $99 (http://www.ccontrols.com/store/unmanaged.shtml#basswitch) -------- RV-7A N777TY Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237827#237827 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:45:09 AM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Ethernet Hub A search through the AFS support forum turn up the recommendation of a Linksys SD205 5 port switch. It is 12 volts and costs about $35. Here is the spec sheet. Larry Rosen ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:00:14 AM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ethernet Hub AFS doesn't provide for this? Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Carpenter" Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:25 AM Subject: RV10-List: Ethernet Hub > > In my quest to find a small ethernet hub (for the two AFS units to > talk to each other) yesterday I discovered that the common Linksys > and Netgear models are 7.5V. Should I be able to find a 12V hub? > If not, how do I step the voltage down? > > Jeff Carpenter > 40304 > N410CF > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:00:38 AM PST US From: Vernon Smith Subject: RE: RV10-List: EGT Sensors installation and clocking Jim=2C Thank you for the pictures. They are just what I needed. Vern do not archive Subject: RE: RV10-List: EGT Sensors installation and clocking From: jim@combsfive.com VErn=2C Here are a couple more. Jim Combs N312F - Flying GLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile1_042009 _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail=AE: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_ Updates1_042009 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:24:38 PM PST US From: "SteinAir, Inc." Subject: RE: RV10-List: Ethernet Hub We have them on our website for $145 in the accessories section...same unit. They indeed are great little boxes that are very nicely built. Industrial panel mount with metal enclosures. It's what we've been installing for all the AFS or GRT panels we've been using. Cheers, Stein do not archive >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill >Mauledriver Watson >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:34 AM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ethernet Hub > > > > >GRT recently shipped me a unit to connect my 3 GRT units. It was a bit >pricey at $165. I questioned whether I should be able to just go out >and find a hub for a better price. They commented that this is an >'industrial' or 'commercial' grade product and that I might have a hard >time finding something equivalent. > >It's a EIBA5100T/R (DIN- rail mount) from Comtemporary Controls. The >installation guides says "....hubs are designed for the Building >Automation Environment". It has 5 ports, it s 3.5x3.31 by 1". It can >be powered by AC 8-24V or DC 10-36V - no setup reuqired >www.ccontrols.com > >Looks good to this builder. > >Bill Watson >40605 > >Jeff Carpenter wrote: >> >> In my quest to find a small ethernet hub (for the two AFS units to >> talk to each other) yesterday I discovered that the common Linksys and >> Netgear models are 7.5V. Should I be able to find a 12V hub? If >> not, how do I step the voltage down? >> >> Jeff Carpenter >> 40304 >> N410CF >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:45:41 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: EGT Sensors installation and clocking From: jim@CombsFive.Com Vern, Glad to help out. JimC ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim, Thank you for the pictures. They are just what I needed. Vern do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:05:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ethernet Hub From: jim@CombsFive.Com You could use a crossover cable (No hub required or the AFS units might automatically do the crossover function. I would contact them before hunting for a hub. Jim C N312F - Flying Do Not Archive --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFS doesn't provide for this? Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Carpenter" To: Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:25 AM Subject: RV10-List: Ethernet Hub > --> RV10-List message posted by: Jeff Carpenter > > In my quest to find a small ethernet hub (for the two AFS units to > talk to each other) yesterday I discovered that the common Linksys > and Netgear models are 7.5V. Should I be able to find a 12V hub? > If not, how do I step the voltage down? > > Jeff Carpenter > 40304 > N410CF > > List Features Navigator to browse List Un/Subscription, Browse, Chat, FAQ, - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - available via the Web Forums! http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - generous support! Admin. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: EGT Sensors installation and clocking From: jim@CombsFive.Com I made a spacer using 1" aluminum. I didn't like the idea of cutting into the side of the airbox to make room for the throttle arm. I will post a picture as soon I figure what directory I hid the darn thing in! Jim C N312F - Flying --> RV10-List message posted by: Kevin Belue Jim, I noticed that you have a straight (flat) mixture arm in your photos. I had one like that and couldn't get it to fit with the air filter box. I had to buy the dogleg version as shown in the plans. Have you fitted the airbox yet? Kevin Belue RV-6A flying RV-10 flying Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:56 AM, jim@CombsFive.Com wrote: > VErn, > > Here are a couple more. > > Jim Combs > N312F - Flying > > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Jim, > > Do you ( or anyone else) have a photo of the area about 6" under the > pictures you sent? I'm trying to figure out the best routing for the > fuel > line from the mechanical fuel pump to the Bendix servo to get it > away from > the exhaust. > > Thanks, > > Vern Smith (#324 finishing) > do not archive > > Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:35:28 -0400 > Subject: Re: RV10-List: EGT Sensors installation and clocking > From: jim@CombsFive.Com > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Here is the left side of my installation. Picture xx35 is the front > / middle pipes, xx34 is the middle and rear cylinders. I used the > same clocking on the other side (leads go toward the prop). > > Jim > C > N312F - Flying (40192) > > Do Not Archive > --> "AirMike" > > > I have the AFS3500 EGT kit. Any > suggestions or better yet pictures of the > final installed position of > the sensors? > > I was told to install 2" out from the flange > on the engine. I am worried > about the clocking so that the wire ends > do not interfere with the > cowling. > > Any suggestions, > comments and pictures appreciated > > -------- > OSH '08 or Bust > (busted) be there in "09 > Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237488#237488 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Rediscover Hotmail: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile1_042009 > > - The RV10-List Email Forum - Features Navigator to browse Un/Subscription, Chat, FAQ, --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - available via the Web Forums! http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - generous support! Admin. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:05:55 PM PST US From: "Fred Williams, M.D." Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ethernet Hub I have a 3500 and a 3400. They just hooked together with a cable. No need for a hub. I'd call AFS before I bought a hub. Fred. Jeff Carpenter wrote: > > In my quest to find a small ethernet hub (for the two AFS units to > talk to each other) yesterday I discovered that the common Linksys and > Netgear models are 7.5V. Should I be able to find a 12V hub? If > not, how do I step the voltage down? > > Jeff Carpenter > 40304 > N410CF > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:41:01 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Ethernet Hub You're welcome! ---- N777TY wrote: > > That manufacturer sells online.. > > EIBA5-100T/R Five-port 10BASE-T/100BASE-TX switching hub, DIN-rail mount $99 > > > > (http://www.ccontrols.com/store/unmanaged.shtml#basswitch) > > -------- > RV-7A > N777TY > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237827#237827 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:01 PM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Ethernet Hub I have installed this in 2 different planes with multiple AFS screens and the Wx receiver and have had no problems. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Larry Rosen wrote: > > A search through the AFS support forum turn up the recommendation of > a Linksys SD205 5 port switch. > It is 12 volts and costs about $35. > > Here is the spec sheet. > > > Larry Rosen > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:40 PM PST US From: Miller John Subject: Re: RV10-List: Extra battery I'm using 2 of the 680s, both mounted aft of the bulkhead in 2 of Van's battery boxes (2 batt busses). Works like a champ. grumpy N184JM do not archive On Apr 4, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Bob and Karen Brown wrote: > If you=92re using a PC-680 battery, why not just buy the install kit > for the RV7 or 7A? > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of David McNeill > Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:31 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Extra battery > > Anyone mount an extra Odyssey 680 on the firewall? I am planning on > using the Piper battery box and mounting it diagonally to pick up > two holes on the diagonal stiffener.and creating a couple of > aluminum doublers for the other four holes. The holes in the battery > box are .29 which means they will have to be bushed for an AN3 or > enlarged and bushed for an AN4. > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:34 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Extra battery From: ricksked@embarqmail.com John, I'm in the middle of spraying. Mike Loehle's paint on m y -10', how's it holding up on yours? Also what gap a re those flying using between the wing gap faring and t he fuselage I need to final fit the edge prior to pai nting them Rick Sked 40185 Can taste the flying..or maybe its polyurethane! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Miller John Subject: Re: RV10-List: Extra battery ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:45 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Extra battery so am I but I think the third on the firewall will provide more flexibility to load the baggage area. Since the fuel burn moves the CG aft , the pitch controls get lighter than I like. Also my main batteries don't seem to get recharged completely given the fixed output from the alternator and the long run to the batteries. Two batteries to start works fine but sometimes a single battery start is slow _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:23 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Extra battery I'm using 2 of the 680s, both mounted aft of the bulkhead in 2 of Van's battery boxes (2 batt busses). Works like a champ. grumpy N184JM do not archive On Apr 4, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Bob and Karen Brown wrote: If you're using a PC-680 battery, why not just buy the install kit for the RV7 or 7A? From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:31 PM Subject: RV10-List: Extra battery Anyone mount an extra Odyssey 680 on the firewall? I am planning on using the Piper battery box and mounting it diagonally to pick up two holes on the diagonal stiffener.and creating a couple of aluminum doublers for the other four holes. The holes in the battery box are .29 which means they will have to be bushed for an AN3 or enlarged and bushed for an AN4. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com lor: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution = ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:13 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Extra battery I think that is what I have but it came from Aircraft Spruce. A black aluminum box made for the PC 680. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:23 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Extra battery I'm using 2 of the 680s, both mounted aft of the bulkhead in 2 of Van's battery boxes (2 batt busses). Works like a champ. grumpy N184JM do not archive On Apr 4, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Bob and Karen Brown wrote: If you're using a PC-680 battery, why not just buy the install kit for the RV7 or 7A? From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:31 PM Subject: RV10-List: Extra battery Anyone mount an extra Odyssey 680 on the firewall? I am planning on using the Piper battery box and mounting it diagonally to pick up two holes on the diagonal stiffener.and creating a couple of aluminum doublers for the other four holes. The holes in the battery box are .29 which means they will have to be bushed for an AN3 or enlarged and bushed for an AN4. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com lor: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution = ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:31 PM PST US From: Patrick Pulis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Extra battery Any pictures of the set-up please guys.=0A=0APat=0ASouth Oz=0A=0ADo Not Arc hive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Miller John =0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Monday, 6 April, 200 9 11:53:23 AM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Extra battery=0A=0AI'm using 2 of t he 680s, both mounted aft of the bulkhead in 2 of Van's battery boxes (2 ba tt busses). =0A=0AWorks like a champ.=0A=0Agrumpy=0AN184JM=0A=0Ado not arch ive=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Apr 4, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Bob and Karen Brown wrote:=0A =0AIf you=99re using a PC-680 battery, why not just buy the install k it for the RV7 or 7A?=0A=C2-=0AFrom:=C2-owner-rv10-list-server@matronic s.com=C2-[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]=C2-On Behalf Of =C2-David McNeill=0ASent:=C2-Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:31 PM=0ATo:=C2 -rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASubject:=C2-RV10-List: Extra battery=0A=0AAn yone mount an extra Odyssey 680 on the firewall? 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Get it now. ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 10:29:32 PM PST US From: "Rene" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Extra battery David, I have thought about going to a single 680 on the firewall. My CG is aft and 4 adults is tough with the CG that way. You say cranking on one 680 can be slow...how often to you crank with 1 batt. Would it be worth me testing the single battery config? Rene' 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 9:11 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Extra battery so am I but I think the third on the firewall will provide more flexibility to load the baggage area. Since the fuel burn moves the CG aft , the pitch controls get lighter than I like. Also my main batteries don't seem to get recharged completely given the fixed output from the alternator and the long run to the batteries. Two batteries to start works fine but sometimes a single battery start is slow _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:23 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Extra battery I'm using 2 of the 680s, both mounted aft of the bulkhead in 2 of Van's battery boxes (2 batt busses). Works like a champ. grumpy N184JM do not archive On Apr 4, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Bob and Karen Brown wrote: If you're using a PC-680 battery, why not just buy the install kit for the RV7 or 7A? From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:31 PM Subject: RV10-List: Extra battery Anyone mount an extra Odyssey 680 on the firewall? I am planning on using the Piper battery box and mounting it diagonally to pick up two holes on the diagonal stiffener.and creating a couple of aluminum doublers for the other four holes. The holes in the battery box are .29 which means they will have to be bushed for an AN3 or enlarged and bushed for an AN4. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com lor: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution = href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 11:07:59 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: RE: RV10-List: Extra battery I think it will depend on the following factors:=C2- 1. Weather - if it's cold, it will be tougher to turn over.=C2-=C2- 2.=C2- Compression - if your engine has any increase in compression from stock it'll be=C2-tou gher to turn over.=C2-=C2- 3.=C2- Dependability - Does it fire right away,,, every time?=C2- Another consideration is hot starts, sometimes th ey can be a problem. What I can tell you is that mine will start with one battery, but if I have a problem of any sorts, it's really nice to flip that second switch..... s pins it right up. That's my 2 cents. Don McDonald #40636 Plane has it's airworthiness cert, pilot has cross training...... but still no license! =C2- --- On Sun, 4/5/09, Rene wrote: From: Rene Subject: RE: RV10-List: Extra battery David, I have thought about going to a single 680 on the firewall. =C2-My CG is aft and 4 adults is tough with the CG that way.=C2- You say cranki ng on one 680 can be slow.how often to you crank with 1 b att.=C2- Would it be worth me testing the single battery config? =C2- Rene' 801-721-6080 =C2- -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 9:11 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Extra battery =C2- so am I but I think the third on the firewall will provide more flexibility to load the baggage area. Since the fuel burn moves the CG aft , the pitch controls get lighter than I like. Also my main batteries=C2-don't seem t o get=C2-recharged completely given the fixed output from the alternator and the long run to the batteries. Two batteries to start works fine but so metimes a single battery start is slow=C2- =C2- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:23 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Extra battery I'm using 2 of the 680s, both mounted aft of the bulkhead in 2 of Van's bat tery boxes (2 batt busses). =C2- Works like a champ. =C2- grumpy N184JM =C2- do not archive =C2- =C2- On Apr 4, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Bob and Karen Brown wrote: If you=99re using a PC-680 battery, why not just buy the install kit for the RV7 or 7A? From:=C2-owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com=C2-[mailto:owner-rv10-lis t-server@matronics.com]=C2-On Behalf Of=C2-David McNeill Sent:=C2-Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:31 PM To:=C2-rv10-list@matronics.com Subject:=C2-RV10-List: Extra battery Anyone mount an extra Odyssey 680 on the firewall? I am planning on using t he Piper battery box and mounting it diagonally to pick up two holes on the diagonal stiffener.and creating a couple of aluminum doublers for the othe r four holes. The holes in the battery box are .29 which means they will ha ve to be bushed for an AN3 or enlarged and bushed for an AN4. =C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp ://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2-http://www.matronics.com/Navigator? 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