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1. 06:13 AM - Re: annual inspection (bcondrey)
2. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: annual inspection (jim@CombsFive.Com)
3. 11:10 AM - Re: RV-List: Fill MK319BS Rivet Head holes to seal out moisture (Les Kearney)
4. 11:12 AM - Re: Re: annual inspection (David McNeill)
5. 01:03 PM - Re: Re: annual inspection (jim@CombsFive.Com)
6. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: annual inspection (Jesse Saint)
7. 04:17 PM - Question for the sheet metal mavens (Les Kearney)
8. 04:33 PM - Re: Re: annual inspection (gary)
9. 05:11 PM - Re: Re: annual inspection (Kelly McMullen)
10. 05:22 PM - Re: Re: annual inspection (David McNeill)
11. 05:34 PM - Re: Question for the sheet metal mavens (linn)
12. 06:12 PM - Re: Question for the sheet metal mavens (Chris and Susie)
13. 06:39 PM - Re: Question for the sheet metal mavens (Les Kearney)
14. 07:41 PM - Re: Question for the sheet metal mavens (Chris and Susie)
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| Subject: | Re: annual inspection |
Yet another thing to keep an eye out for at annual time...
I just finished the bulkhead reinforcement SB as the first part of my first annual
and found a bad bearing on one of the elevators - it almost feels like grit
is in it. It wasn't noticeable through the control stick or when moving the
elevators themselves but when disassembled it was very clearly an issue.
Check those planes carefully!
Bob
N442PM (flying)
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| Subject: | Re: annual inspection |
Another item to check at annual time.
Backup EFIS
Battery. Run the EFIS on backup and time how long it takes to go
flat. Don't just assume you have what is documented on the backup
battery.
Jim C (N312F - Flying - 55+ hours)
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<bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Yet another thing to keep an
eye out for at annual time...
I just finished the bulkhead
reinforcement SB as the first part of my
first annual and found a bad
bearing on one of the elevators - it almost
feels like grit is in it.
It wasn't noticeable through the control stick
or when moving the
elevators themselves but when disassembled it was very
clearly an
issue.
Check those planes carefully!
Bob
N442PM
(flying)
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| Subject: | RE: RV-List: Fill MK319BS Rivet Head holes to seal out moisture |
Hi Deems
Do you know what he used to dilute the pro-seal?
Cheers
Les Kearney
RV10 # 40643 - some assembly required
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: April-12-09 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fill MK319BS Rivet Head holes to seal out moisture
--> RV-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
An award winning RV builder (Rod Bower)
http://www.ramairforhomebuilts.com/Photos/RV8/default.htm gave me a
great tip for this and appearances as well. he uses a diluted mixture of
Pro Seal, wipes it around all of his rivet lines to partially fill any
creases/voids and irregularities around the rivet head and the
skin/dimple. Said it only took him a couple of hours to do his RV8.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....'
http://deemsrv10.com/
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> JB weld is a good product for that application.
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| Subject: | Re: annual inspection |
my avionics backup battery is trickle charged every time the engine runs.
Health of the battery is apparent each time avionics are booted prior to
engine start.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim@CombsFive.Com
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: annual inspection
Another item to check at annual time.
Backup EFIS Battery. Run the EFIS on backup and time how long it takes to
go flat. Don't just assume you have what is documented on the backup
battery.
Jim C (N312F - Flying - 55+ hours)
---------------------------------------------------------
Yet another thing to keep an eye out for at annual time...
I just finished the bulkhead reinforcement SB as the first part of my
first annual and found a bad bearing on one of the elevators - it almost
feels like grit is in it. It wasn't noticeable through the control stick
or when moving the elevators themselves but when disassembled it was very
clearly an issue.
Check those planes carefully!
Bob
N442PM (flying)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238768#238768
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| Subject: | Re: annual inspection |
But that never runs the battery down. How many of us expect the
battery to last the "Hour" or so that is documented by the
manufacturer. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the battery didn't
go the last mile when needed. I do expect to "Test" it at
each annual just to verify its proper operation.
Just wondering
what if anything others are doing to very the backup battery is
good. Replace it on "Time" or test to verify it's
operation?
Jim C (N312F - Flying)
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my avionics backup battery is trickle charged every time the
engine runs.
Health of the battery is apparent each time avionics are
booted prior to
engine start.
_____
From:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jim@CombsFive.Com
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:06 AM
To:
rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: annual
inspection
Another item to check at annual time.
Backup EFIS Battery. Run the EFIS on backup and time how long it takes
to
go flat. Don't just assume you have what is documented on the
backup
battery.
Jim C (N312F - Flying - 55+ hours)
---------------------------------------------------------
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Yet another thing to keep an
eye out for at annual time...
I just finished the bulkhead
reinforcement SB as the first part of my
first annual and found a bad
bearing on one of the elevators - it almost
feels like grit is in it.
It wasn't noticeable through the control stick
or when moving the
elevators themselves but when disassembled it was very
clearly an
issue.
Check those planes carefully!
Bob
N442PM
(flying)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238768#238768
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| Subject: | Re: annual inspection |
Also not a bad thing to do at least once under day VFR in flight to
get actual activity on the unit being powered by the backup battery,
then to compare it to static battery life for comparison purposes.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
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On Apr 12, 2009, at 11:06 AM, jim@CombsFive.Com wrote:
> Another item to check at annual time.
>
> Backup EFIS Battery. Run the EFIS on backup and time how long it
> takes to go flat. Don't just assume you have what is documented on
> the backup battery.
>
> Jim C (N312F - Flying - 55+ hours)
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
>
> Yet another thing to keep an eye out for at annual time...
>
> I just finished the bulkhead reinforcement SB as the first part of my
> first annual and found a bad bearing on one of the elevators - it
> almost
> feels like grit is in it. It wasn't noticeable through the control
> stick
> or when moving the elevators themselves but when disassembled it was
> very
> clearly an issue.
>
> Check those planes carefully!
>
> Bob
> N442PM (flying)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238768#238768
>
>
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| Subject: | Question for the sheet metal mavens |
Hi
I am planning to install an access plate into the fuse tunnel so I can
access my fuel pumps without removing my center console.
Can anyone tell me what the rules are for spacing the cover plate screws? I
can't seem to find anything in the usual reference materials.
Inquiring minds need to know
Les Kearney
#40643 - some assembly required.
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| Subject: | Re: annual inspection |
Since I lived up north for most of my life I have always replaced my battery
at every annual. In our cars we replace them every 2 to 3 years to make
sure we don't get stranded. I plan on the same schedule on my 10. You can
always use a spare battery for non critical non aviation uses around home.
Gary Specketer
40274 Flying
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim@CombsFive.Com
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:02 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: annual inspection
But that never runs the battery down. How many of us expect the battery to
last the "Hour" or so that is documented by the manufacturer. I wouldn't be
at all surprised if the battery didn't go the last mile when needed. I do
expect to "Test" it at each annual just to verify its proper operation.
Just wondering what if anything others are doing to very the backup battery
is good. Replace it on "Time" or test to verify it's operation?
Jim C (N312F - Flying)
Do Not Archive
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my avionics backup battery is trickle charged every time the engine runs.
Health of the battery is apparent each time avionics are booted prior to
engine start.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jim@CombsFive.Com
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: annual inspection
Another item to check at annual time.
Backup EFIS Battery. Run the EFIS on backup and time how long it takes to
go flat. Don't just assume you have what is documented on the backup
battery.
Jim C (N312F - Flying - 55+ hours)
---------------------------------------------------------
Yet another thing to keep an eye out for at annual time...
I just finished the bulkhead reinforcement SB as the first part of my
first annual and found a bad bearing on one of the elevators - it almost
feels like grit is in it. It wasn't noticeable through the control stick
or when moving the elevators themselves but when disassembled it was very
clearly an issue.
Check those planes carefully!
Bob
N442PM (flying)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238768#238768
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| Subject: | Re: annual inspection |
Some what unnecessary in cold climates. In 22 yrs in Fairbanks never
replaced a battery in less than 5 years. Cold weather may reduce the
cranking ability at extreme cold temps by slowing the reaction, but has
little impact on the capacity or life. Hot weather, such as Aridzona
accelerates sulfation of the plates and vehicles that have batteries
unprotected in the engine compartment rarely get more than 2 year life.
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 7:26 PM, gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote:
> Since I lived up north for most of my life I have always replaced my
> battery at every annual. In our cars we replace them every 2 to 3 years
to
> make sure we don=92t get stranded. I plan on the same schedule on my 10.
You
> can always use a spare battery for non critical non aviation uses around
> home.
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| Subject: | Re: annual inspection |
I used a 680 for starting the Glastar. It lasted from 11/2003 until replaced
10/2008. It was still starting the aircraft but would hesitate if not used
for several days. That was 500 hours and at least three starts per week. You
might want to consider Odyssey batteries. On my certified C177RG which I
owned from 1976- 2005, the FAA PMA Gill never lasted more than 2 years. I
have Odyssey 680s in the 10.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: annual inspection
Since I lived up north for most of my life I have always replaced my battery
at every annual. In our cars we replace them every 2 to 3 years to make
sure we don't get stranded. I plan on the same schedule on my 10. You can
always use a spare battery for non critical non aviation uses around home.
Gary Specketer
40274 Flying
_____
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim@CombsFive.Com
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:02 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: annual inspection
But that never runs the battery down. How many of us expect the battery to
last the "Hour" or so that is documented by the manufacturer. I wouldn't be
at all surprised if the battery didn't go the last mile when needed. I do
expect to "Test" it at each annual just to verify its proper operation.
Just wondering what if anything others are doing to very the backup battery
is good. Replace it on "Time" or test to verify it's operation?
Jim C (N312F - Flying)
Do Not Archive
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------
my avionics backup battery is trickle charged every time the engine runs.
Health of the battery is apparent each time avionics are booted prior to
engine start.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jim@CombsFive.Com
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: annual inspection
Another item to check at annual time.
Backup EFIS Battery. Run the EFIS on backup and time how long it takes to
go flat. Don't just assume you have what is documented on the backup
battery.
Jim C (N312F - Flying - 55+ hours)
---------------------------------------------------------
Yet another thing to keep an eye out for at annual time...
I just finished the bulkhead reinforcement SB as the first part of my
first annual and found a bad bearing on one of the elevators - it almost
feels like grit is in it. It wasn't noticeable through the control stick
or when moving the elevators themselves but when disassembled it was very
clearly an issue.
Check those planes carefully!
Bob
N442PM (flying)
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the sheet metal mavens |
The 'rule' is ...... how many screws do you want to remove while you're
standing on your head in the belly of the beast in the summer heat????
Depending on the size of the access plate, one screw in the corners and
one in between the corners should do just fine.
Linn
Les Kearney wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> I am planning to install an access plate into the fuse tunnel so I can
> access my fuel pumps without removing my center console.
>
>
>
> Can anyone tell me what the rules are for spacing the cover plate
> screws? I can't seem to find anything in the usual reference materials.
>
>
>
> Inquiring minds need to know
>
>
>
> Les Kearney
>
> #40643 -- some assembly required.
>
> *
>
>
> *
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>
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the sheet metal mavens |
Is it a structual area?
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To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Question for the sheet metal mavens
The 'rule' is ...... how many screws do you want to remove while
you're standing on your head in the belly of the beast in the summer
heat????
Depending on the size of the access plate, one screw in the corners
and one in between the corners should do just fine.
Linn
Les Kearney wrote:
Hi
I am planning to install an access plate into the fuse tunnel so I
can access my fuel pumps without removing my center console.
Can anyone tell me what the rules are for spacing the cover plate
screws? I can't seem to find anything in the usual reference materials.
Inquiring minds need to know
Les Kearney
#40643 - some assembly required.
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the sheet metal mavens |
absolutely - it is the fuse so a four screw solution doesn't quote work.
Cheers
Les
Sent from my iPhone
On 12-Apr-09, at 7:10 PM, Chris and Susie <vhicy@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Is it a structual area?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: linn
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Question for the sheet metal mavens
>
> The 'rule' is ...... how many screws do you want to remove while
> you're standing on your head in the belly of the beast in the summer
> heat????
> Depending on the size of the access plate, one screw in the corners
> and one in between the corners should do just fine.
> Linn
>
> Les Kearney wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> I am planning to install an access plate into the fuse tunnel so I
>> can access my fuel pumps without removing my center console.
>>
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what the rules are for spacing the cover plate
>> screws? I can=99t seem to find anything in the usual reference
mater
>> ials.
>>
>>
>> Inquiring minds need to know
>>
>>
>> Les Kearney
>>
>> #40643 =93 some assembly required.
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the sheet metal mavens |
Les sometimes its better to contact the engineering department at Vans
as they designed the 10 and run it by them.
Chris
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To: RV10
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Question for the sheet metal mavens
absolutely - it is the fuse so a four screw solution doesn't quote
work.
Cheers
Les
Sent from my iPhone
On 12-Apr-09, at 7:10 PM, Chris and Susie <vhicy@bigpond.com> wrote:
Is it a structual area?
----- Original Message -----
From: linn
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Question for the sheet metal mavens
The 'rule' is ...... how many screws do you want to remove while
you're standing on your head in the belly of the beast in the summer
heat????
Depending on the size of the access plate, one screw in the
corners and one in between the corners should do just fine.
Linn
Les Kearney wrote:
Hi
I am planning to install an access plate into the fuse tunnel so
I can access my fuel pumps without removing my center console.
Can anyone tell me what the rules are for spacing the cover
plate screws? I can=99t seem to find anything in the usual
reference materials.
Inquiring minds need to know
Les Kearney
#40643 =93 some assembly required.
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