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1. 05:04 AM - Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com)
2. 05:33 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (Jack Phillips)
3. 05:55 AM - WTB: Rivet Squeezer (Bill and Tami Britton)
4. 05:56 AM - electronic log books (Jesse Saint)
5. 05:59 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (johngoodman)
6. 06:00 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (Jesse Saint)
7. 06:12 AM - Re: Canopy Question / Observation (johngoodman)
8. 06:12 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com)
9. 06:21 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (James McGrew)
10. 06:40 AM - Re: electronic log books (Kelly McMullen)
11. 06:44 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (Don McDonald)
12. 06:48 AM - Re: Re: Canopy Question / Observation (Don McDonald)
13. 06:53 AM - Re: Re: Canopy Question / Observation (Les Kearney)
14. 07:09 AM - Re: electronic log books (James Ochs)
15. 08:04 AM - Re: Re: Canopy Question / Observation (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
16. 09:10 AM - Re: WTB: Rivet Squeezer (Mike Schulz)
17. 09:17 AM - FW: 2009 Spring NW RV-10 Builders and Flyers Dinner Meeting / BBQ / Fly-in (John Jessen)
18. 09:17 AM - Re: WTB: Rivet Squeezer (Robin Marks)
19. 09:44 AM - Re: Canopy Question / Observation (Jeff Carpenter)
20. 09:45 AM - Re: electronic log books (Chris Klugewicz)
21. 10:09 AM - Re: Canopy Question / Observation (Lenny Iszak)
22. 10:42 AM - Re: IAS for Pahse 1 without pants/fairings (Miller John)
23. 11:22 AM - Re: electronic log books (Bob Turner)
24. 11:22 AM - Re: electronic log books (Bob Turner)
25. 12:47 PM - Re: electronic log books (William Curtis)
26. 12:59 PM - Re: Canopy Question / Observation (Dave Saylor)
27. 01:42 PM - Re: WTB: Rivet Squeezer (Vernon Smith)
28. 01:53 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (MARCUS COOPER)
29. 02:28 PM - Re: electronic log books (Jesse Saint)
30. 02:48 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (Rob Kermanj)
31. 06:05 PM - FS: RV-10 Tailkit (New) & All my tools (Mike Much)
32. 06:29 PM - Re: FW: 2009 Spring NW RV-10 Builders and Flyers Dinner Meeting / BBQ / Fly-in (cloudvalley@comcast.net)
33. 07:13 PM - Re: Canopy Question / Observation (Les Kearney)
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| Subject: | Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
We noticed a few leaking rivets on the top of the fuel tanks in the first
two inboard rows of rivets. Rivets were leaking on both wings, two rivets
on the left wing, one rivet on the right wing. These are quickbuild
wings......
We called Vans for advice on how they would like us to proceed for a fix.
They asked us to apply green wicking Loctite to the faulty rivets. We
applied the Loctite, and will file a PIREP when the results come in. My
question to the group is, has anyone else used this repair method? Was it
a temporary repair, or a long term fix (I understand we don't have a old
fleet to prove this). Is this common in the industry?
I have my own opinions of what Vans should do to solve our problem (new
tanks), but we will try it their way first.....
Thanks, Jason Kreidler
It runs, weight and balance complete, transition training done, doing
minor finishing and calibrations, waiting on paperwork.
#40617 N44YH
Sheboygan Falls, WI
(4) Partner Build
Jason Kreidler
Kyle Hokel
Tony Kolar
Wayne Elsner
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| Subject: | Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
Jason, I would be interested in hearing your results. I've got a 22
year-old RV-4 that is leaking at several rivets. This was built using the
old Pro-Seal that Van's has since moved away from due to its becoming
brittle and cracking after 20 years. I would like to see if this fix works.
When I contacted Van's about my RV-4, their only solution was to build new
fuel tanks. Where did you buy this green, wicking Loctite?
Jack Phillips
RV-10 #40610
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jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:01 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking
We noticed a few leaking rivets on the top of the fuel tanks in the first
two inboard rows of rivets. Rivets were leaking on both wings, two rivets
on the left wing, one rivet on the right wing. These are quickbuild
wings......
We called Vans for advice on how they would like us to proceed for a fix.
They asked us to apply green wicking Loctite to the faulty rivets. We
applied the Loctite, and will file a PIREP when the results come in. My
question to the group is, has anyone else used this repair method? Was it a
temporary repair, or a long term fix (I understand we don't have a old fleet
to prove this). Is this common in the industry?
I have my own opinions of what Vans should do to solve our problem (new
tanks), but we will try it their way first.....
Thanks, Jason Kreidler
It runs, weight and balance complete, transition training done, doing minor
finishing and calibrations, waiting on paperwork.
#40617 N44YH
Sheboygan Falls, WI
(4) Partner Build
Jason Kreidler
Kyle Hokel
Tony Kolar
Wayne Elsner
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| Subject: | WTB: Rivet Squeezer |
My rivet squeezer was rebuilt about 1 1/2 - 2 months ago and it has quit
again. I'm thinking it's time to retire this one and look for another
one.Anybody have a "C" style pneumatic rivet squeezer they're not using
anymore?? Thought I would try the groups before I call Avery or
Cleveland and order a new one.
Bill
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| Subject: | electronic log books |
I am looking for a way to keep my pilot's log electronically both on
my Mac computer and my iPhone. Does anybody have any experience with
the program(s) that offer both of these features? I don't mind the
paper log, but it is a little hard to keep track of make/model time
without keeping a mental note as-you-go.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
Loctite 290 Threadlocker. Available at Amazon and many auto supply places. It's
about $20 for a tiny tube, so don't waste it.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
It's interesting that when Van's gets a call about a quickbuild wing
that is leaking, they recommend the loctite method. When they get a
call about a customer-built wing that is leaking, they say the only
option is to either get into the tank and fix it or build a new tank.
I have personal experience with this inconsistency. Sounds to me like
a little bit of a double standard.
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On May 4, 2009, at 8:00 AM, jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com wrote:
>
> We noticed a few leaking rivets on the top of the fuel tanks in the
> first two inboard rows of rivets. Rivets were leaking on both
> wings, two rivets on the left wing, one rivet on the right wing.
> These are quickbuild wings......
>
> We called Vans for advice on how they would like us to proceed for a
> fix. They asked us to apply green wicking Loctite to the faulty
> rivets. We applied the Loctite, and will file a PIREP when the
> results come in. My question to the group is, has anyone else used
> this repair method? Was it a temporary repair, or a long term fix
> (I understand we don't have a old fleet to prove this). Is this
> common in the industry?
>
> I have my own opinions of what Vans should do to solve our problem
> (new tanks), but we will try it their way first.....
>
> Thanks, Jason Kreidler
>
> It runs, weight and balance complete, transition training done,
> doing minor finishing and calibrations, waiting on paperwork.
>
> #40617 N44YH
> Sheboygan Falls, WI
> (4) Partner Build
> Jason Kreidler
> Kyle Hokel
> Tony Kolar
> Wayne Elsner
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Question / Observation |
Unless you've pulled the canopy and sanded it at least 15 times, it sounds like
you need a little more work on where the door part sits. :)
John
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N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
We used "Napa 290", purchased at our local Napa store (obviously).
Thanks, Jason Kreidler
It runs, weight and balance complete, transition training done, doing
minor finishing and calibrations, waiting on paperwork.
#40617 N44YH
Sheboygan Falls, WI
(4) Partner Build
Jason Kreidler
Kyle Hokel
Tony Kolar
Wayne Elsner
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
I used this method on a single leaking rivet on a QB wing tank. I had a hard
time getting it to work. Someone recommended putting a slight vacuum on the
tank to get the Loctite 390 to get pulled in around the rivet. That is hard
to do with an installed tank. I used a ballon taped to the end of a short
piece of rubber hose to put some air pressure on the outside of the rivet. I
also used a heat gun on the area while the Loctite was still wet. It sealed
the leak and it has been leak free for 1.5 years now.
-Jim
N312JE
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:00 AM, <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com> wrote:
>
> We noticed a few leaking rivets on the top of the fuel tanks in the first
> two inboard rows of rivets. Rivets were leaking on both wings, two rivets
> on the left wing, one rivet on the right wing. These are quickbuild
> wings......
>
> We called Vans for advice on how they would like us to proceed for a fix.
> They asked us to apply green wicking Loctite to the faulty rivets. We
> applied the Loctite, and will file a PIREP when the results come in. My
> question to the group is, has anyone else used this repair method? Was it a
> temporary repair, or a long term fix (I understand we don't have a old fleet
> to prove this). Is this common in the industry?
>
> I have my own opinions of what Vans should do to solve our problem (new
> tanks), but we will try it their way first.....
>
> Thanks, Jason Kreidler
>
> It runs, weight and balance complete, transition training done, doing minor
> finishing and calibrations, waiting on paperwork.
>
> #40617 N44YH
> Sheboygan Falls, WI
> (4) Partner Build
> Jason Kreidler
> Kyle Hokel
> Tony Kolar
> Wayne Elsner
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: electronic log books |
I use http://www.forpilots.com/logbook/
However, it is a Windows only product, so would need to be able to run
one of the windows versions on your Mac. Don't know on iPhone. Many
of the GPS products and EFB products have an automatic time logging
feature.
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
> I am looking for a way to keep my pilot's log electronically both on my Mac
> computer and my iPhone. Does anybody have any experience with the
> program(s) that offer both of these features? I don't mind the paper log,
> but it is a little hard to keep track of make/model time without keeping a
> mental note as-you-go.
> do not archive
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
Could this stuff be used before paint.... or could something else be used before
paint
It would be nice to solve the problem before it becomes a problem.
Don
--- On Mon, 5/4/09, jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
wrote:
From: jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking
We used "Napa 290", purchased at our local Napa store (obviously).
Thanks, Jason Kreidler
It runs, weight and balance complete, transition training done, doing minor finishing
and calibrations, waiting on paperwork.
#40617 N44YH
Sheboygan Falls, WI
(4) Partner Build
Jason Kreidler
Kyle Hokel
Tony Kolar
Wayne Elsner
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Question / Observation |
John, you got it done after only 15 fittings.... you're my new idol!
Don
--- On Mon, 5/4/09, johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Canopy Question / Observation
Unless you've pulled the canopy and sanded it at least 15 times, it sounds
like you need a little more work on where the door part sits.- :)
John
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le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Question / Observation |
The guys at Dave Saylor's (Aircrafters) did it with only two fittings.
I have a few more iterations...
Cheers
Les
Sent from my iPhone
On 4-May-09, at 7:11 AM, johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
>
> Unless you've pulled the canopy and sanded it at least 15 times, it
> sounds like you need a little more work on where the door part
> sits. :)
> John
>
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> N711JG reserved
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=242618#242618
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| Subject: | Re: electronic log books |
I use Logten Pro... it's an excellent pilot's log and syncs with your
iphone. You can enter your flights in either the iphone or the Mac
application, and it has a lot of features around currency and other
reminders. Also, if you are a commercial / ATP pilot there are a lot
of features for tracking duty limits and such. It was built expressly
for Mac, so there isn't a windows version as yet, and lastly the
author of the software actively supports the product via email or the
forums on his site.
(I'm not affiliated with the product other than being a happy user ;)
http://coradine.com/
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James
--
#40400
finishing elevators
http://www.froody.org/heartofgold/
On May 4, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Jesse Saint wrote:
> I am looking for a way to keep my pilot's log electronically both on
> my Mac computer and my iPhone. Does anybody have any experience
> with the program(s) that offer both of these features? I don't mind
> the paper log, but it is a little hard to keep track of make/model
> time without keeping a mental note as-you-go.
>
> do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Question / Observation |
I had to take mine down to 1/16" in a spot or two.
After watching Dave's team do it, I only required 20 or so fittings. I
think I could get it down to 15 on my 2nd or 3rd try. Maybe.
Les Kearney wrote:
>
> The guys at Dave Saylor's (Aircrafters) did it with only two fittings.
>
> I have a few more iterations...
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 4-May-09, at 7:11 AM, johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
>>
>> Unless you've pulled the canopy and sanded it at least 15 times, it
>> sounds like you need a little more work on where the door part sits. :)
>> John
>>
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>> #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started.
>> N711JG reserved
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>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=242618#242618
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| Subject: | WTB: Rivet Squeezer |
Give me a call Mike @ 612-590-8604 I have one it's older and works great.
Mike Schulz
Pro Fish Enterprises, LLC
4878 Edgewater Drive
Mound, MN 55364
612-590-8604
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami
Britton
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: WTB: Rivet Squeezer
My rivet squeezer was rebuilt about 1 1/2 - 2 months ago and it has quit
again. I'm thinking it's time to retire this one and look for another
one.Anybody have a "C" style pneumatic rivet squeezer they're not using
anymore?? Thought I would try the groups before I call Avery or Cleveland
and order a new one.
Bill
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| Subject: | FW: 2009 Spring NW RV-10 Builders and Flyers Dinner Meeting |
/ BBQ / Fly-in
I'm posting this on the main Matronic's RV-10 list in case there are folks
in the Northwest who are not on my mailing list, but do frequent this list
and who might want to join in. Respond to me off-line.
For newbie's on the Matronic's list, the NW RV-10 builders have been holding
these dinners for 4 years now. They keep getting bigger as more folks get
involved with the 10. And now with so many finished, it's starting to
become a fly-in as well. Come on out and join us some time.
John
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From: John Jessen [mailto:john.m.jessen@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:57 AM
Subject: 2009 Spring NW RV-10 Builders and Flyers Dinner Meeting / BBQ /
Fly-in
Folks,
We were going to have the Spring NW RV-10 Builders and Flyers Dinner meeting
at Vernon Smith's in Albany, but Vern's got about three or four months more
work to do on his RV-10 before he'd like to show it off. He was willing to
go ahead with the Spring dinner, but I suggested that he hold off until he
got his pride and joy ready for prime time. I didn't want him to rush
anything. So one idea would be to, for the Fall meeting, combine Vern's
RV-10 debut and the RV homecoming gathering at Independence. Norm mentioned
something along these lines the last time we gathered at Randy's. I think
the idea has some legs. We can discuss it at the Spring meeting.
In the meantime, since I'm now lacking a sponsor for the Spring meeting, I
suggest we hold it at my hanger at Lenhardt's (7S9). By doing so we can
have it as a fly-in / BBQ. There are more than enough interesting planes at
Lenhardt (three Stearman, a PT-13, and so on) to add to the normal RV-10
interest. I'm sure Jack Lenhardt would be pleased to see all those
completed RV-10's parked on the grass. We could arrange to use Jack's large
hanger for the meal if there are enough of us, or simply hold it at mine.
Smaller, but serviceable. There are 3 RV-10's being built on the field,
although none of them is very active at the moment. Bruce and Becky have
set aside their RV-10 build temporarily while beginning another project
(I'll let them show-and-tell that, but I can guarantee you'll find it
interesting). George McNiel is still MIA, but his RV-10 QB is next door to
mine just waiting for him to resume work. My project was shelved while I
played with a GlaStar that I bought to fly while building. I've just now
restarted the RV-10 by pulling out my 2 year old wing kit and oiling up the
air tools.
Looking at my calendar, I see that May 30th and 31st are a possibility.
Maybe June 6th or 7th. Let me know if you're interested and what dates you
wouldn't be able to make. My thought would be to have a plain ol' BBQ.
Lots of good burgers, chicken, and dogs, with some vegi-burgers thrown in.
Folks could bring the fixings, side dishes and desserts. We could do it
earlier in the day, say arrive around noon. Eat around 2:00. People could
then have that evening free for other activities.
RV-10's that might fly in would be Dan Benua's, Ed Hayden's, Randy Debauw's,
Norm Rainey's, Tim James', Bruce Radke's, Dick VanGrunsven, Rob Hickman. We
might even coax Deems to fly up and show off. Or even get Dave Saylor up
from his digs in the Monterey Bay area. Maybe Ed could regale us with
stories of his flight to the islands, with Tim Olson. (Hey, Tim! You're
still on the list as one of the founding members. Best get out here one
day.)
Let me know. And, as usual, please let me know if I've forgotten anyone or
there is someone new to be invited.
John Jessen
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| Subject: | WTB: Rivet Squeezer |
I think there was a used rivet squeezer for sale on the RV list just a
few days ago. Sorry I am on the road or I would be able to look up the
post.
Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami
Britton
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: WTB: Rivet Squeezer
My rivet squeezer was rebuilt about 1 1/2 - 2 months ago and it has quit
again. I'm thinking it's time to retire this one and look for another
one.Anybody have a "C" style pneumatic rivet squeezer they're not using
anymore?? Thought I would try the groups before I call Avery or
Cleveland and order a new one.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Question / Observation |
Hi Les,
The height the joggle sits above the side skins is determined by the
canopy thickness at the door sill (something you can control) and as
you move aft by the distance from the tailcone forward top skin down
to the joggle (something you can't control). If the gap is even all
the way across or gets bigger as you move aft, you've probably done
all you can do.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
On May 3, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Les Kearney wrote:
> Hi
>
> It has been an interesting weekend on the building front. Today I
> mated the tail cone with the fuse. And then, I fitted the canopy. I
> must say, the completed fuse is an impressive sight. It almost made
> my wife forget that she had to park outside for the winter=85
>
> Anyway, I have a couple of observations I thought I would share.
>
> First off, I used a Dremmel Multi-Max oscillating tool to trim the
> canopy. It took a couple of wood/drywall blades to complete the job
> but it did it nicely. I found that it was easy to control the cut
> line and get a very precise & straight cut. I don=92t think a normal
> reciprocating saw would have done as neat a job. Given that it cost
> under $100 CDN (about $80US), it was well worth the investment.
>
> The other observation is that the tail cone really does attach
> quite easily. It took my friend Larry and I only about an hour or
> so to get everything lined up and clecoed.
>
> I do have a question regarding the canopy fit. I plan to call Van=92s
> tomorrow but thought I would ask the list first. After fitting the
> doors square, I notice that the rear of the canopy sits about 3/16=94
> above the skins (that is the distance between the top of the canopy
> joggle and the top of the side skins. Is this normal? If I want to
> get it lower, it looks like I would have to take too much depth off
> the bottom of the door.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
> #40643 ' Some assembly required (but less than yesterday)
>
>
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| Subject: | electronic log books |
I've used LogTen Pro in the past, and it's a very complete logbook program. No
problems keeping track of time in type or pretty much anything else you want.
The iPhone app that goes with it is more limited and not worth the $$$, IMHO.
I am currently using SafeLog from Dauntless Aviation -- I have the Web version
as well as the PC version (no Mac version yet, sad to say, but the Web version
has 99% of the features of the PC version), and I *LOVE* it. It's actually MUCH
more user friendly than LogTen Pro, and I've actually moved my entire logbook
over to it now. The iPhone version of SafeLog is actually an iPhone-formatted
web page, and it's okay (better than the LogTen Pro app, actually), but the
need for an active web connection to use it is a bit of a pain. I like SafeLog
enough that I've stopped using LogTen Pro, FWIW.
-- Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 8:55am
Subject: RV10-List: electronic log books
I am looking for a way to keep my pilot's log electronically both on
my Mac computer and my iPhone. Does anybody have any experience with
the program(s) that offer both of these features? I don't mind the
paper log, but it is a little hard to keep track of make/model time
without keeping a mental note as-you-go.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Question / Observation |
Les,
3/16 is about where mine is. I didn't want to make the door sill that much thinner...
Lenny
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| Subject: | Re: IAS for Pahse 1 without pants/fairings |
I got about +18 kts when I put the pants and fairings on!!
grumpy
On Apr 29, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Deems Davis wrote:
>
> What IAS are people seeing during their flyoff without pants/
> fairings. Today @ 3500' running 25 x 25, I was indicating 134 kts.
> I know I've got some rigging problems (which I hope are now
> remedied) and have been dragging the airplane through the sky with a
> yaw. Just curious as to what I should be looking for once I get her
> rigged right and flying straight.
>
> Deems Davis
> N519PJ
> A whooping 3.2 hours and 3 flights !
>
>
> BTW the RAM air is an INSTANT turbo, pull the valve open and MP
> pressure jumps 1.9" !!!!!!!!! WOOOOHOOOOO. What a surge!!!!!! I
> spoke with Rod Bower tonight and he's working on an enhancement and
> testing with Lycon, and he's confident we can get 3" + boost
> additional with the BPE cold air and forward facing servo :-)
> Who needs any stinking turbo !?
>
>
> ...... More to come
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: electronic log books |
Sorry, I meant Excel.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: electronic log books |
I just use Exel (spreadsheet). If you're familiar with it, it's easy enough to
sort by aircraft type, hours last 12 months, etc. I so this at least once a year
for the insurance questionaire.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: electronic log books |
http://www.logshare.com/
Web based, Excel downloadable, FREE!
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
> I am looking for a way to keep my pilot's log electronically both on my Mac
> computer and my iPhone. Does anybody have any experience with the
> program(s) that offer both of these features? I don't mind the paper log,
> but it is a little hard to keep track of make/model time without keeping a
> mental note as-you-go.
> do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
William Curtis
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| Subject: | Canopy Question / Observation |
Les,
>> After fitting the doors square, I notice that the rear of the canopy
sits about 3/16" above the skins (that is the distance between the top of
the canopy joggle and the top of the side skins. Is this normal? If I want
to get it lower, it looks like I would have to take too much depth off the
bottom of the door. <<
The thing to look for in the seam under the windows is to make sure you have
good edge distance on the fiberglass for the rivets along that horizontal
line. As long as you have that, the width of the gap left over by the
joggle isn't too important. 3/16" seems like a bit on the large side, but
as you remove material from the bottom of the door frame, you also might
start interfering along the lower side of the joggle. So you have to
balance how thick you want the bottom of the door frame with how much you
can afford to remove from downward-pointing leg of the joggle. My plane has
ALL of the lower door frame removed in one tiny area. For the most part,
you'll see the lower outboard edge of the frame thinner than 1/8".
Any questions just call.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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| Subject: | WTB: Rivet Squeezer |
I bought a used one from the Yardstore with good results. www.yardstore.com
I did have to add a adjustable ram to mine>
Vern Smith (#324 finishing)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: WTB: Rivet Squeezer
From: robin1@mrmoisture.com
I think there was a used rivet squeezer for sale on the RV list just a few
days ago. Sorry I am on the road or I would be able to look up the post.
Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami Britton
Sent: Monday=2C May 04=2C 2009 5:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: WTB: Rivet Squeezer
My rivet squeezer was rebuilt about 1 1/2 - 2 months ago and it has quit ag
ain. I'm thinking it's time to retire this one and look for another one.An
ybody have a "C" style pneumatic rivet squeezer they're not using anymore??
Thought I would try the groups before I call Avery or Cleveland and order
a new one.
Bill http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.c
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
Jason,
--- I had 2 rivets leaking very slightly on my QB wings.- So slight
ly that it wasn't apparent until after the paint job, a very unpleasant sur
prise.- Anyway, I used the green Loctite trick and it appears to have wor
ked great.- It took a number of aplications over time, but I haven't had
a leak in months and am ready to repaint the area once I get the opportunit
y.
-
Good Luck,
Marcus
40276
-
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--- On Mon, 5/4/09, jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com <jason.kreidler@regalbel
oit.com> wrote:
From: jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking
We noticed a few leaking rivets on the top of the fuel tanks in the first t
wo inboard rows of rivets. -Rivets were leaking on both wings, two rivets
on the left wing, one rivet on the right wing. -These are quickbuild win
gs......
We called Vans for advice on how they would like us to proceed for a fix.
-They asked us to apply green wicking Loctite to the faulty rivets. -We
applied the Loctite, and will file a PIREP when the results come in. -My
question to the group is, has anyone else used this repair method? -Was
it a temporary repair, or a long term fix (I understand we don't have a old
fleet to prove this). -Is this common in the industry?
I have my own opinions of what Vans should do to solve our problem (new tan
ks), but we will try it their way first.....
Thanks, Jason Kreidler
It runs, weight and balance complete, transition training done, doing minor
finishing and calibrations, waiting on paperwork.
#40617 N44YH
Sheboygan Falls, WI
(4) Partner Build
Jason Kreidler
Kyle Hokel
Tony Kolar
Wayne Elsner
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| Subject: | Re: electronic log books |
Great responses. Thanks to all. I'm sure I have enough going on
there to get it done. Hopefully there will be a good a reliable and
reasonable off-line iPhone app for that soon.
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On May 4, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Chris Klugewicz wrote:
>
> I've used LogTen Pro in the past, and it's a very complete logbook
> program. No problems keeping track of time in type or pretty much
> anything else you want. The iPhone app that goes with it is more
> limited and not worth the $$$, IMHO.
>
> I am currently using SafeLog from Dauntless Aviation -- I have the
> Web version as well as the PC version (no Mac version yet, sad to
> say, but the Web version has 99% of the features of the PC version),
> and I *LOVE* it. It's actually MUCH more user friendly than LogTen
> Pro, and I've actually moved my entire logbook over to it now. The
> iPhone version of SafeLog is actually an iPhone-formatted web page,
> and it's okay (better than the LogTen Pro app, actually), but the
> need for an active web connection to use it is a bit of a pain. I
> like SafeLog enough that I've stopped using LogTen Pro, FWIW.
>
> -- Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
I used their method and it worked. The stuff does not dry on top of
the rivet and is misleading. However, my fix has lasted three years.
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:00 AM, <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com> wrote:
>
> We noticed a few leaking rivets on the top of the fuel tanks in the first
> two inboard rows of rivets. Rivets were leaking on both wings, two rivets
> on the left wing, one rivet on the right wing. These are quickbuild
> wings......
>
> We called Vans for advice on how they would like us to proceed for a fix.
> They asked us to apply green wicking Loctite to the faulty rivets. We
> applied the Loctite, and will file a PIREP when the results come in. My
> question to the group is, has anyone else used this repair method? Was it a
> temporary repair, or a long term fix (I understand we don't have a old fleet
> to prove this). Is this common in the industry?
>
> I have my own opinions of what Vans should do to solve our problem (new
> tanks), but we will try it their way first.....
>
> Thanks, Jason Kreidler
>
> It runs, weight and balance complete, transition training done, doing minor
> finishing and calibrations, waiting on paperwork.
>
> #40617 N44YH
> Sheboygan Falls, WI
> (4) Partner Build
> Jason Kreidler
> Kyle Hokel
> Tony Kolar
> Wayne Elsner
>
>
--
Rob Kermanj
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| Subject: | FS: RV-10 Tailkit (New) & All my tools |
Guys - I am just not a builder... I am selling my tailkit and all my
tools - My website has a partial listing as well as posted on VAT. I
have all receipts for all parts and kits. If you're looking for
something specific and not lists - ask I might have it. I love the
RV-10's and RV-I'd - I will buy one complete... Thought I'd at least
try it...
email is mkmuch@gmail.com Website is www.2muchflying.com
Thanks for all the help...
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: FW: 2009 Spring NW RV-10 Builders and Flyers Dinner Meeting |
/ BBQ / Fly-in
Hi John,
=C2-Thanks for the heads up. Our mechanic lives in Independence and we go
there all the time.
We=C2- =C2-w ould love to see you all at Lenhardt's also. We are=C2-
doing the Farmers' market on S aturday and will be also doing it on T uesda
y. Frida y and S aturday wouldn't work for us, but if everyone decides on S
unday that would be great! Thanks for the heads up. Sounds like so much fun
.
Brian and Ruth
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jessen" <john.m.jessen@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 9:15:28 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RV10-List: FW: 2009 Spring NW RV-10 Builders and Flyers Dinner Mee
ting / BBQ / Fly-in
I'm posting this on the main Matronic's RV-10=C2-list in case there are f
olks in the Northwest who are not on my mailing list, but do frequent this
list and who might want to join in.=C2- Respond to me off-line.=C2-=C2
-
For newbie's on the Matronic's list,=C2-the=C2-NW RV-10 builders have b
een holding these dinners for 4 years now.=C2- They keep getting bigger a
s more folks get involved with the 10.=C2- And now with so many finished,
it's starting to become a fly-in as well.=C2- Come on out and join us so
me time.=C2-
John
From: John Jessen [mailto:john.m.jessen@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:57 AM
Subject: 2009 Spring NW RV-10 Builders and Flyers Dinner Meeting / BBQ / Fl
y-in
Folks,
We were going to have the Spring NW RV-10 Builders and Flyers Dinner meetin
g at Vernon Smith's in Albany, but Vern's got about three or four months mo
re work to do on his RV-10 before he'd like to show it off.=C2- He was wi
lling to go ahead with the Spring dinner, but I suggested that he hold off
until he got his pride and joy ready for prime time.=C2- I didn't want hi
m to rush anything.=C2- So one idea would be to, for the Fall meeting, co
mbine Vern's RV-10 debut and the RV homecoming gathering at Independence.
=C2- Norm mentioned something along these lines the last time we gathered
at Randy's.=C2- I think the idea has some legs.=C2- We can discuss it
at the Spring meeting.=C2-
In the meantime, since I'm now lacking a sponsor for the Spring meeting, I
suggest we hold it at my hanger at Lenhardt's (7S9).=C2- By doing so we c
an have it as a fly-in / BBQ.=C2- There are more than enough interesting
planes at Lenhardt (three Stearman, a PT-13, and so on) to add to the norma
l RV-10 interest.=C2- I'm sure Jack Lenhardt would be pleased to see all
those completed RV-10's parked on the grass.=C2- We could arrange to use
Jack's large hanger for the meal if there are enough of us, or simply hold
it at mine.=C2- Smaller, but serviceable.=C2- There are 3 RV-10's being
built on the field, although none of them is very active at the moment.=C2
- Bruce and Becky have set aside their RV-10 build temporarily while begi
nning another project (I'll let them show-and-tell that, but I can guarante
e you'll find it interesting).=C2-=C2-George McNiel=C2-is still MIA,
but his RV-10 QB is next door to mine just waiting for him to resume work.
=C2- My project was shelved while I played with a GlaStar that I bought t
o fly while building.=C2- I've just now restarted the RV-10 by pulling ou
t my 2 year old wing kit and oiling up the air tools.=C2-
Looking at my calendar, I see that May 30th and 31st are a possibility.=C2
-=C2-Maybe June 6th or 7th.=C2- Let=C2-me know if you're interested
and what dates you wouldn't be able to make.=C2- My thought would be to
have a plain ol' BBQ.=C2- Lots of good burgers, chicken,=C2-and dogs, w
ith some vegi-burgers thrown in.=C2- Folks could bring the fixings, side
dishes and desserts.=C2-=C2-We could do it earlier in the day, say arri
ve around noon.=C2- Eat around 2:00.=C2- People could then have that ev
ening free for other activities.=C2-=C2-=C2-
RV-10's that might fly in would be Dan Benua's, Ed Hayden's, Randy Debauw's
, Norm Rainey's, Tim James', Bruce Radke's, Dick VanGrunsven, Rob Hickman.
=C2- We might even coax Deems to fly up and show off.=C2- Or even get D
ave Saylor up from his digs in the Monterey Bay area.=C2- Maybe Ed could
regale us with stories of his flight to the islands, with Tim Olson.=C2-
=C2-(Hey, Tim!=C2- You're still on the list as one of the founding memb
ers.=C2- Best get=C2-out here one day.)=C2- =C2-
Let me know.=C2- And, as usual, please let me know if I've forgotten anyo
ne or there is someone new to be invited.=C2-
John Jessen
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| Subject: | Canopy Question / Observation |
Hi Guys
Many thanks for all the canopy responses. I plan to relook at my canopy
tomorrow and then call Van's. I was delayed today due to a tunnel access I
was installing and missed the tech support window.
Cheers
Les
#40643 - some assembly required
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor
Sent: May-04-09 1:52 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Canopy Question / Observation
Les,
>> After fitting the doors square, I notice that the rear of the canopy
sits about 3/16" above the skins (that is the distance between the top of
the canopy joggle and the top of the side skins. Is this normal? If I want
to get it lower, it looks like I would have to take too much depth off the
bottom of the door. <<
The thing to look for in the seam under the windows is to make sure you have
good edge distance on the fiberglass for the rivets along that horizontal
line. As long as you have that, the width of the gap left over by the
joggle isn't too important. 3/16" seems like a bit on the large side, but
as you remove material from the bottom of the door frame, you also might
start interfering along the lower side of the joggle. So you have to
balance how thick you want the bottom of the door frame with how much you
can afford to remove from downward-pointing leg of the joggle. My plane has
ALL of the lower door frame removed in one tiny area. For the most part,
you'll see the lower outboard edge of the frame thinner than 1/8".
Any questions just call.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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