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1. 04:58 AM - Re: FS: RV-10 Tailkit (New) & All my tools (Lew Gallagher)
2. 05:09 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (Wayne Edgerton)
3. 05:55 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (Rene Felker)
4. 06:34 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (Tim Olson)
5. 06:54 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (Rene Felker)
6. 06:58 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (David McNeill)
7. 08:08 AM - Bending Fuse Side Skins (mds4878)
8. 08:29 AM - Re: seat belt counter sink? (mds4878)
9. 10:35 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (David Maib)
10. 10:58 AM - Re: Canopy Question / Observation (nukeflyboy)
11. 10:58 AM - Re: Canopy Question / Observation (nukeflyboy)
12. 12:04 PM - RV10 QB Wingkit for sale Columbia, SC (HAMILTON, PATTY)
13. 01:52 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking (jkreidler)
14. 03:46 PM - Re: Bending Fuse Side Skins (Patrick Pulis)
15. 04:44 PM - Re: Bending Fuse Side Skins (Paul Ohman)
16. 04:44 PM - Phase 1 report and GRT with the 'leans' (McGANN, Ron)
17. 05:19 PM - Re: Phase 1 report and GRT with the 'leans' (T.C. Chang)
18. 05:19 PM - Extra holes in wing ribs??? (Bill and Tami Britton)
19. 05:33 PM - Re: Phase 1 report and GRT with the 'leans' (linn)
20. 08:13 PM - HID lights (David McNeill)
21. 08:43 PM - Re: HID lights (Don McDonald)
22. 08:48 PM - G900X AHRS & remote compass (Dave Leikam)
23. 09:18 PM - Re: Extra holes in wing ribs??? (Seano)
24. 10:15 PM - Re: G900X AHRS & remote compass (Robin Marks)
25. 10:51 PM - Re: G900X AHRS & remote compass (Chris and Susie)
26. 11:49 PM - Re: G900X AHRS & remote compass (Robin Marks)
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| Subject: | Re: FS: RV-10 Tailkit (New) & All my tools |
Hey Mike,
I wish you were here!
Any chance you can team up with local partners? I've seen several multiple owner/builders
on this forum.
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Painting when it's 60+ degrees!
Piddling with wiring and avionics.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
Hello Jason,
I had the same problem twice, also with quick build wings. I also called
Vans and told them about the problem, I was talking to Gus, who normally
was really good at answers, and after our conversation that this is
quick build and by theory should be better than what I could do, his
answer in a back handed way was " Ya and what do you want me to do about
it" His attitude really turned me off and I told him if you don't know
what to do there's no sense in me talking to you and I hung up on him,
which I would never normally do but his attitude was so flipped it
ticked me off.
By the way he told me the same answer as he did you but but I was just
telling him that in inspecting the inside of the tank, I drained it,
that I could see that his hired help in the Philippines were only
putting a very small amount of pro seal in the tank in order to save
money. I'm assuming they're paid so much a unit and if you skimp you
save money, I guess. I was trying to tell Gus that he needs to tell them
to do a better job and stop cutting corners.
I actually drilled out the leaking rivets and put in cherry max rivets
with a lot of pro seal on the back side of the rivet. That was two years
ago and I've not had any additional leaks. When I had the leaks the
plane hadn't yet been painted so drilling out the rivet wasn't a paint
issue.
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
Time: 05:04:49 AM PST US
Subject: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking
From: jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com
We noticed a few leaking rivets on the top of the fuel tanks in
the first
two inboard rows of rivets. Rivets were leaking on both wings,
two rivets
on the left wing, one rivet on the right wing. These are
quickbuild
wings......
We called Vans for advice on how they would like us to proceed for
a fix.
They asked us to apply green wicking Loctite to the faulty rivets.
We
applied the Loctite, and will file a PIREP when the results come
in. My
question to the group is, has anyone else used this repair method?
Was it
a temporary repair, or a long term fix (I understand we don't have
a old
fleet to prove this). Is this common in the industry?
I have my own opinions of what Vans should do to solve our problem
(new
tanks), but we will try it their way first.....
Thanks, Jason Kreidler
It runs, weight and balance complete, transition training done,
doing
minor finishing and calibrations, waiting on paperwork.
#40617 N44YH
Sheboygan Falls, WI
(4) Partner Build
Jason Kreidler
Kyle Hokel
Tony Kolar
Wayne Elsner
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| Subject: | Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
I also have one leaky rivet on the top of the tank in the "walk area". But,
so does 410RV. I did my transition training in that aircraft and it has
several leakers. I think it must have something to do with the doublers. My
leaky rivet is under the 3m non-skid in the walk area and only shows up when
the tank is full, so I have decided to live with it until this summer. When
it gets real hot, I will try to pull the 3m stuff up and seal the rivet.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking
Hello Jason,
I had the same problem twice, also with quick build wings. I also called
Vans and told them about the problem, I was talking to Gus, who normally was
really good at answers, and after our conversation that this is quick build
and by theory should be better than what I could do, his answer in a back
handed way was " Ya and what do you want me to do about it" His attitude
really turned me off and I told him if you don't know what to do there's no
sense in me talking to you and I hung up on him, which I would never
normally do but his attitude was so flipped it ticked me off.
By the way he told me the same answer as he did you but but I was just
telling him that in inspecting the inside of the tank, I drained it, that I
could see that his hired help in the Philippines were only putting a very
small amount of pro seal in the tank in order to save money. I'm assuming
they're paid so much a unit and if you skimp you save money, I guess. I was
trying to tell Gus that he needs to tell them to do a better job and stop
cutting corners.
I actually drilled out the leaking rivets and put in cherry max rivets with
a lot of pro seal on the back side of the rivet. That was two years ago and
I've not had any additional leaks. When I had the leaks the plane hadn't yet
been painted so drilling out the rivet wasn't a paint issue.
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
Time:
05:04:49 AM PST US
Subject:
Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking
From:
jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com
We noticed a few leaking rivets on the top of the fuel tanks in the
first
two inboard rows of rivets. Rivets were leaking on both wings, two
rivets
on the left wing, one rivet on the right wing. These are quickbuild
wings......
We called Vans for advice on how they would like us to proceed for a
fix.
They asked us to apply green wicking Loctite to the faulty rivets. We
applied the Loctite, and will file a PIREP when the results come in.
My
question to the group is, has anyone else used this repair method?
Was it
a temporary repair, or a long term fix (I understand we don't have a
old
fleet to prove this). Is this common in the industry?
I have my own opinions of what Vans should do to solve our problem
(new
tanks), but we will try it their way first.....
Thanks, Jason Kreidler
It runs, weight and balance complete, transition training done, doing
minor finishing and calibrations, waiting on paperwork.
#40617 N44YH
Sheboygan Falls, WI
(4) Partner Build
Jason Kreidler
Kyle Hokel
Tony Kolar
Wayne Elsner
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
Going back to that prior discussion about fuel tanks
I remember someone said they hadn't heard much about
any QB tanks leaking, and that it was rare. I would
like to point out that this thread has shown the reason
that my personal opinion leans towards building my
own tanks. It hasn't been very publicized before in
this amount on the list, but I've talked to many many
RV-10 builders with QB tanks that have had these problems.
I know, repetition on riveting wings isn't fun, but they
build fast, and when you're done you will know that you
did a good job prosealing. I don't understand WHY the
QB tanks seem to have such an issue....my only guess is
that to save costs they go as light on sealant as
possible. It's a common enough problem though that I
really think the company should re-evaluate the instruction
given to the offshore builders and encourage a little
more attention paid to making the tanks leak free.
The sad part is, for many builders they want to paint
before flying. I liked it that way, myself. But giving
your tanks a chance to be thoroughly leak tested may
be a good reason to delay painting on at least the wings
of your QB kit, if you're trying to choose when to paint.
Luckily most rivet leaks will be on the bottom side
of the wing.
It would be interesting to take a tally of how many QB
wings came with leaks, and then forward the numbers
to Van's. Perhaps they don't have a clue the number is
so high, but compiling it here may provide incentive to
them to do a bit more training over there.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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| Subject: | Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
One point of clarification...I built my own tanks.
Tim, I think it would be a good idea to get a list of quick build
leakers..but don't count me in, I did this to myself. J
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:55 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking
I also have one leaky rivet on the top of the tank in the "walk area". But,
so does 410RV. I did my transition training in that aircraft and it has
several leakers. I think it must have something to do with the doublers. My
leaky rivet is under the 3m non-skid in the walk area and only shows up when
the tank is full, so I have decided to live with it until this summer. When
it gets real hot, I will try to pull the 3m stuff up and seal the rivet.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking
Hello Jason,
I had the same problem twice, also with quick build wings. I also called
Vans and told them about the problem, I was talking to Gus, who normally was
really good at answers, and after our conversation that this is quick build
and by theory should be better than what I could do, his answer in a back
handed way was " Ya and what do you want me to do about it" His attitude
really turned me off and I told him if you don't know what to do there's no
sense in me talking to you and I hung up on him, which I would never
normally do but his attitude was so flipped it ticked me off.
By the way he told me the same answer as he did you but but I was just
telling him that in inspecting the inside of the tank, I drained it, that I
could see that his hired help in the Philippines were only putting a very
small amount of pro seal in the tank in order to save money. I'm assuming
they're paid so much a unit and if you skimp you save money, I guess. I was
trying to tell Gus that he needs to tell them to do a better job and stop
cutting corners.
I actually drilled out the leaking rivets and put in cherry max rivets with
a lot of pro seal on the back side of the rivet. That was two years ago and
I've not had any additional leaks. When I had the leaks the plane hadn't yet
been painted so drilling out the rivet wasn't a paint issue.
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
Time:
05:04:49 AM PST US
Subject:
Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking
From:
jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com
We noticed a few leaking rivets on the top of the fuel tanks in the
first
two inboard rows of rivets. Rivets were leaking on both wings, two
rivets
on the left wing, one rivet on the right wing. These are quickbuild
wings......
We called Vans for advice on how they would like us to proceed for a
fix.
They asked us to apply green wicking Loctite to the faulty rivets. We
applied the Loctite, and will file a PIREP when the results come in.
My
question to the group is, has anyone else used this repair method?
Was it
a temporary repair, or a long term fix (I understand we don't have a
old
fleet to prove this). Is this common in the industry?
I have my own opinions of what Vans should do to solve our problem
(new
tanks), but we will try it their way first.....
Thanks, Jason Kreidler
It runs, weight and balance complete, transition training done, doing
minor finishing and calibrations, waiting on paperwork.
#40617 N44YH
Sheboygan Falls, WI
(4) Partner Build
Jason Kreidler
Kyle Hokel
Tony Kolar
Wayne Elsner
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| Subject: | Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
No quick build wing leaks here after 140 hours. Mine were shipped to me
3/2005. My QB wings were among the first batch produced. I also did not
follow the plans to remove and test the tanks. I thought that just another
way to create a leak where none may exist. The tanks were supposedly tested
at the build factory.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking
Going back to that prior discussion about fuel tanks I remember someone said
they hadn't heard much about any QB tanks leaking, and that it was rare. I
would like to point out that this thread has shown the reason that my
personal opinion leans towards building my own tanks. It hasn't been very
publicized before in this amount on the list, but I've talked to many many
RV-10 builders with QB tanks that have had these problems.
I know, repetition on riveting wings isn't fun, but they build fast, and
when you're done you will know that you did a good job prosealing. I don't
understand WHY the QB tanks seem to have such an issue....my only guess is
that to save costs they go as light on sealant as possible. It's a common
enough problem though that I really think the company should re-evaluate the
instruction given to the offshore builders and encourage a little more
attention paid to making the tanks leak free.
The sad part is, for many builders they want to paint before flying. I
liked it that way, myself. But giving your tanks a chance to be thoroughly
leak tested may be a good reason to delay painting on at least the wings of
your QB kit, if you're trying to choose when to paint.
Luckily most rivet leaks will be on the bottom side of the wing.
It would be interesting to take a tally of how many QB wings came with
leaks, and then forward the numbers to Van's. Perhaps they don't have a
clue the number is so high, but compiling it here may provide incentive to
them to do a bit more training over there.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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| Subject: | Bending Fuse Side Skins |
If anybody is about to do section 29 and would like my clamping blocks and roll
angles give me a call 612-590-8604. I made both wood blocks and the roll angles
and if you pay shipping you can have them.
Mike Schulz
40447 and working on Fuse. 8)
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| Subject: | Re: seat belt counter sink? |
Please put me on the list.
Mike Schulz
#40447
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
85 hours on my QB wings and no leaks at this time. Wings delivered in
June 2006. I did take the tanks off and test them per Van's
instructions. I also had a self-induced leak when I accidentally
dropped the tank from the wing cradle and bent the leading edge and
inboard tank rib. :-(
THAT was one of those real bad moments in building this airplane!
David Maib
40559
Flying
On May 5, 2009, at 9:58 AM, David McNeill wrote:
No quick build wing leaks here after 140 hours. Mine were shipped to me
3/2005. My QB wings were among the first batch produced. I also did not
follow the plans to remove and test the tanks. I thought that just
another
way to create a leak where none may exist. The tanks were supposedly
tested
at the build factory.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking
Going back to that prior discussion about fuel tanks I remember
someone said
they hadn't heard much about any QB tanks leaking, and that it was
rare. I
would like to point out that this thread has shown the reason that my
personal opinion leans towards building my own tanks. It hasn't been
very
publicized before in this amount on the list, but I've talked to many
many
RV-10 builders with QB tanks that have had these problems.
I know, repetition on riveting wings isn't fun, but they build fast, and
when you're done you will know that you did a good job prosealing. I
don't
understand WHY the QB tanks seem to have such an issue....my only
guess is
that to save costs they go as light on sealant as possible. It's a
common
enough problem though that I really think the company should re-
evaluate the
instruction given to the offshore builders and encourage a little more
attention paid to making the tanks leak free.
The sad part is, for many builders they want to paint before flying. I
liked it that way, myself. But giving your tanks a chance to be
thoroughly
leak tested may be a good reason to delay painting on at least the
wings of
your QB kit, if you're trying to choose when to paint.
Luckily most rivet leaks will be on the bottom side of the wing.
It would be interesting to take a tally of how many QB wings came with
leaks, and then forward the numbers to Van's. Perhaps they don't have a
clue the number is so high, but compiling it here may provide
incentive to
them to do a bit more training over there.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Question / Observation |
Les,
Here is another way of looking at what the above have said in different ways.
Look at the horizontal joggle along the full length (fore-aft) relative to the
side skin. The front portion (joggle) should fit closely to the skin. It can
be brought down by trimming the door sill. There was not much door sill left
on mine when I was done. The aft joggle is really dictated by the attachment
to the bulkhead/top skin. You can't do much about it except fill it in later.
Mine was about 1/8 inch. Last, make sure that you trim excess off the joggle
flange to make sure it clears the longeron (no interference).
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Question / Observation |
Les,
Here is another way of looking at what the above have said in different ways.
Look at the horizontal joggle along the full length (fore-aft) relative to the
side skin. The front portion (joggle) should fit closely to the skin. It can
be brought down by trimming the door sill. There was not much door sill left
on mine when I was done. The aft joggle is really dictated by the attachment
to the bulkhead/top skin. You can't do much about it except fill it in later.
Mine was about 1/8 inch. Last, make sure that you trim excess off the joggle
flange to make sure it clears the longeron (no interference).
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
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| Subject: | RV10 QB Wingkit for sale Columbia, SC |
For Sale Rv10 Quick built wing kit for sale in Columbia SC $12000
Contact Patty Hamilton at phamilton@sc.rr.com or (803) 240-8376
P Please help reduce our impact.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Rivet Leaking |
The good news is we found the leaks before paint, as we intend to fly off Phase
1 without paint.
The RV-10 trainer in Texas also has leaking rivets on top of the wing, in the wing
walk area.
It would be interesting to note the location of all of the leaks found so far.
I suspect that the last inboard rivets at the end of the wing walk stiffeners
(T-1011) is where most leaks are occurring. This looks like it is a highly stressed
rivet joint. I think it might be good practice to not use this section
of the wing as a walking area. I may be wrong....
Thanks or 'tanks' for all the replies!
Jason Kreidler #40617 - 4 Partner Build
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| Subject: | Re: Bending Fuse Side Skins |
Mike, I'm up to that very section, and require those blocks,-but I guess
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| Subject: | Re: Bending Fuse Side Skins |
Great timing Mike, we are starting that section soon. I will take them. PM sent
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Paul Ohman
40810
slow build wings
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| Subject: | Phase 1 report and GRT with the 'leans' |
G'day all,
Phase 1 flight testing is complete. As others that are flying already
well know, this one sensational aircraft!! My stick time has been
limited, but just supporting the 'mandatory crew' testing of Vx/Vy and
gross weight has furthered my grin! Keep pounding those rivets - it is
really well worth the effort.
Here is my squawk list (if you can call it that):
a. had to replace a valve core to stop left main
deflating
b. adjusted governor to correct underspeed at full
throttle
c. added fixed rudder trim
d. added fixed aileron trim (very small amount) to
account slightly heavy right wing
e. removed a bug (literally!!) from the left tank vent
line that fully blocked the vent. I have seen photos of an RV8 with a
crushed tank that resulted from the vent being blocked and the vacuum
created by pumping out the fuel - makes for a very bad day. The bug
must have crawled in during the VERY brief period in which the tanks
were empty for fuel calibration. CHECK THOSE VENTS!
f. Dodgy CHT sensor (or connection)
g. My GRT EFIS presents a slight roll (~3degs) on some
occasions. This is intermittent, not significant, just bloody annoying.
The skid ball is also way out - no correlation to the mechanical ball at
all.
I thought my GRT installation was pretty standard for a -10, the AHRS
and magnetometer are located on a shelf aft and rear of the battery and
A/P pitch servo. Plenty of distance from battery, antennas, A/P,
mounted with non magnetic hw etc. The only magnetic item within cooee
is the rear seat harness attach cables. Carols from GRT still believes
it may be a magnetometer interference issue. Anyone else had similar
problems, and how difficult is it to move the magnetometer to the wing
tip while maintaining alignment with the AHRS?
Cheers
Ron
VH-XRM
Flying --- man THAT sounds good :-D
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| Subject: | Phase 1 report and GRT with the 'leans' |
Ron,
On your point g. the GRT EFIS lean and skid ball problem, you may want
to
talk to Mark Allen at GRT. Early on I had the same problem with my 9A.
After talking to Mark I sent him a log file. Based on the log file, Mark
told me one of the sensor was off. They fixed that problem for me and it
was
more than 400 hours ago.
Ted
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http://3limafoxtrot.com/
RV-9A, Lycoming (ECI) O320-D2A, 160 hp, Carb, left Mag + right
Lightspeed
EI, Sensenich FP
GRT dual DU H1, TT DigiFlight II VSGV, 572 hrs Hobbs
Last flight: http://www.mail2600.com/cgi-bin/track.cgi?call=KD8IIR
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&last=1
RV10 emp, #40948
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Phase 1 report and GRT with the 'leans'
G'day all,
Phase 1 flight testing is complete. As others that are flying already
well
know, this one sensational aircraft!! My stick time has been limited,
but
just supporting the 'mandatory crew' testing of Vx/Vy and gross weight
has
furthered my grin! Keep pounding those rivets - it is really well worth
the
effort.
Here is my squawk list (if you can call it that):
a. had to replace a valve core to stop left main
deflating
b. adjusted governor to correct underspeed at full
throttle
c. added fixed rudder trim
d. added fixed aileron trim (very small amount) to
account
slightly heavy right wing
e. removed a bug (literally!!) from the left tank vent
line that fully blocked the vent. I have seen photos of an RV8 with a
crushed tank that resulted from the vent being blocked and the vacuum
created by pumping out the fuel - makes for a very bad day. The bug
must
have crawled in during the VERY brief period in which the tanks were
empty
for fuel calibration. CHECK THOSE VENTS!
f. Dodgy CHT sensor (or connection)
g. My GRT EFIS presents a slight roll (~3degs) on some
occasions. This is intermittent, not significant, just bloody annoying.
The skid ball is also way out - no correlation to the mechanical ball at
all.
I thought my GRT installation was pretty standard for a -10, the AHRS
and
magnetometer are located on a shelf aft and rear of the battery and A/P
pitch servo. Plenty of distance from battery, antennas, A/P, mounted
with
non magnetic hw etc. The only magnetic item within cooee is the rear
seat
harness attach cables. Carols from GRT still believes it may be a
magnetometer interference issue. Anyone else had similar problems, and
how
difficult is it to move the magnetometer to the wing tip while
maintaining
alignment with the AHRS?
Cheers
Ron
VH-XRM
Flying --- man THAT sounds good :-D
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| Subject: | Extra holes in wing ribs??? |
Somehow in match drilling the left rear spar to the wing ribs I got two
extra holes in the trailing edge flange (flange that rivets to the rear
spar) of the #'s 3 and 4 ribs. They are holes that were there
originally if I remember right. However, the holes that I match drilled
to the rear spar were a little bit further from center than the original
holes. Pictures are attached. Anyhow, if it's a mistake it's already
made. How do I fix it or should I go on and not worry about it. If I
drill the holes to the rear spar and rivet them I think it will be too
close to the W-1007B rear spar reinforcement fork (it's going to be
right on the edge).
Thanks,
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Phase 1 report and GRT with the 'leans' |
Kudos Ron!!!
McGANN, Ron wrote:
> Gday all,
>
>
>
> Phase 1 flight testing is complete. As others that are flying already
> well know, this one sensational aircraft!! My stick time has been
> limited, but just supporting the mandatory crew testing of Vx/Vy and
> gross weight has furthered my grin! Keep pounding those rivets it is
> really well worth the effort.
It's news like this that keeps me going. >
> Here is my squawk list (if you can call it that):
>
> a. had to replace a valve core to stop left main deflating
>
> b. adjusted governor to correct underspeed at full
> throttle
>
> c. added fixed rudder trim
>
> d. added fixed aileron trim (very small amount) to
> account slightly heavy right wing
>
> e. removed a bug (literally!!) from the left tank vent
> line that fully blocked the vent. I have seen photos of an RV8 with a
> crushed tank that resulted from the vent being blocked and the vacuum
> created by pumping out the fuel makes for a very bad day. The bug
> must have crawled in during the VERY brief period in which the tanks
> were empty for fuel calibration. CHECK THOSE VENTS!
We have mud daubers where I live (FL) and they like tank vents with or
without fuel in the tanks!!! Take a pipe cleaner and bend it like a 'W'
and insert the middle bend up inside the vent. Should keep the critters
out.
>
> f. Dodgy CHT sensor (or connection)
>
> g. My GRT EFIS presents a slight roll (~3degs) on some
> occasions. This is intermittent, not significant, just bloody annoying.
> The skid ball is also way out no correlation to the mechanical ball
> at all.
>
> I thought my GRT installation was pretty standard for a -10, the AHRS
> and magnetometer are located on a shelf aft and rear of the battery and
> A/P pitch servo. Plenty of distance from battery, antennas, A/P,
> mounted with non magnetic hw etc. The only magnetic item within cooee
> is the rear seat harness attach cables. Carols from GRT still believes
> it may be a magnetometer interference issue. Anyone else had similar
> problems, and how difficult is it to move the magnetometer to the wing
> tip while maintaining alignment with the AHRS?
My thoughts on this are the distance between the yaw axis and the
mechanical ball Vs. the distance to the AHRS. Your AHRS is pretty far
aft, so the reading MAY be accurate ..... if it's really mounted correctly.
Linn
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
> VH-XRM
> Flying --- man THAT sounds good :-D
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Just in case the new builders have not considered HID lights. See the
difference on my 10.
http://www.planelights.com/index.php?id=661
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So the power requirement is < the stk Van's lights?- If true, then-the
wiring already in the wingtip for the existing landing light should work ju
st fine.- Soon as I get the first flight in, I'll consider the change out
.- Thanks for the info.
Don McDonald
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
From: David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net>
Subject: RV10-List: HID lights
Just in case the new builders have not considered HID lights. See the diffe
rence on my 10.
-
http://www.planelights.com/index.php?id=661
=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | G900X AHRS & remote compass |
Does anyone have pictures of where they installed the AHRS and remote
compass for a G900X system?
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Extra holes in wing ribs??? |
Van's keep production cheaper by making all of the ribs the same. Those
extra holes are just not used. It is the difference between the regular
rib holes and the gap seal holes(I believe, it's been a month since I
did that.)
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill and Tami Britton
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:24 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Extra holes in wing ribs???
Somehow in match drilling the left rear spar to the wing ribs I got
two extra holes in the trailing edge flange (flange that rivets to the
rear spar) of the #'s 3 and 4 ribs. They are holes that were there
originally if I remember right. However, the holes that I match drilled
to the rear spar were a little bit further from center than the original
holes. Pictures are attached. Anyhow, if it's a mistake it's already
made. How do I fix it or should I go on and not worry about it. If I
drill the holes to the rear spar and rivet them I think it will be too
close to the W-1007B rear spar reinforcement fork (it's going to be
right on the edge).
Thanks,
Bill
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| Subject: | G900X AHRS & remote compass |
Does this help?
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: G900X AHRS & remote compass |
Robin my only concern would be the harness atach cables. We installed
our unit at the top of the baulkhead to get away from them
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Marks
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: G900X AHRS & remote compass
Does this help?
Robin
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| Subject: | G900X AHRS & remote compass |
Stainless Steel hardware.
Every problem has a solution, just add dollars.
If this was not S/S they definitely will interfere with the electronics.
You may still have to do the same. These are really sensitive devices.
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and
Susie
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: G900X AHRS & remote compass
Robin my only concern would be the harness atach cables. We installed
our unit at the top of the baulkhead to get away from them
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Marks <mailto:robin1@mrmoisture.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: G900X AHRS & remote compass
Does this help?
Robin
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