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1. 10:01 AM - Re: Need ideas to remove aft crank plug for C/S prop (jayb)
2. 10:48 AM - Re: Front wheel service (John Ackerman)
3. 10:49 AM - Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? (Tim Olson)
4. 11:19 AM - Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? (Jesse Saint)
5. 11:49 AM - Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? (Bob Turner)
6. 11:57 AM - Re: Front wheel service (T.C. Chang)
7. 12:04 PM - Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? (Tim Olson)
8. 12:04 PM - Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? (Dave Leikam)
9. 12:19 PM - Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? (David McNeill)
10. 12:51 PM - Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? (Tim Olson)
11. 01:35 PM - Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? (Ben Westfall)
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| Subject: | Re: Need ideas to remove aft crank plug for C/S prop |
Drilled a new hole in the old plug. Threaded in a self tapping bolt and popped
it out using an el-cheapo slide hammer from Harbor Freight. Unscrewed the bolt
using a channel lock and fished the plug out with a magnet. The new plug was
inserted using a magnet and seated by tapping on two brass rods.
A shopvac, magnet and oily rag got the metal shavings out. It took maybe half and
hour once all the right tools were in hand. All in all, there are lots of other
harder things to do on the project... once it's in the rear view mirror.
Cheers,
Jay
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| Subject: | Re: Front wheel service |
One of the things that Bill's design does that some others do not is
make it convenient ' even _possible_ for some of us ' to move the
weights around. Also, it is self-centering - no need to place the tail
exactly over a fixed anchor point.
The downward pull on my plane's tiedown ring is something just less
than 300 lb, I think, with engine and prop, but no tail feathers or
wings or interior seats and such.
My "anchor" comprises 12" X 12" X 1 1/2" concrete pavers in four
stacks on a square wooden frame that has four casters near the
corners. The frame is 2X4s on edge supporting a 1/2" plywood platform,
about 28" X 28" overall. I needed twenty pavers, sixteen was too few.
The pavers weigh about 17 lb for a total of 340 lb, more or less. A
bolt placed horizontally through the frame at the center provides an
attach point for the block and tackle that pulls the tail down. A
small come-along would have been better, but I already had the block
and tackle. The casters let the anchor center itself under the tiedown
ring. If the pavers are not stacked evenly or if there are too few of
them, the frame lifts off the floor and tips, so I strap the pavers
down to the frame with nylon straps and ratchets from Costco "just in
case" and use a few more pavers than the minimum required. That gives
a nice, stable anchor.
This approach was cheaper and quicker (for me), but it's not nearly as
elegant and usable as Bill's, nor is it as safe. Also, the anchor
takes up a lot of floor space in the heavy traffic area at the tail.
"Next time" I would probably invest the time and effort needed to cast
all those weights and follow Bill's approach.
On May 12, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Bob and Karen Brown wrote:
> Go to many aircraft shops and you=92ll see many examples of something
> along the lines of a 5 gallon bucket (or plywood framed wooden box),
> on wheels, filled with a bag or two of sakrete (premixed concrete)
> and set with an anchor bolt with an eye on top just about in the
> center of the box or bucket. You can roll it around wherever you
> want it and use it as an anchor point for your tie down ring. Just
> another variation of mounting a tiedown ring in your hangar=85I=92ve
> also seen old tires used like this, but they=92re not so convenient to
> move as a heavy =93box=94 on wheels.
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Bill DeRouchey
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:10 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Front wheel service
>
> I have tried using a block & tackle pulling the tail to the floor,
> and building a bench and using bottle jacks under the firewall to
> lift the nose. Not happy with either method.
>
> Got busy designing and my latest scheme thusfar is the safest and
> most convenient.
>
> =46rom the tail tiedown I suspended a hook with weights just like a
> balance beam. Each weight or platter weights 35 lbs and is 3.5"
> thick made from cast concrete (with some ribarb support embedded).
> The basic hook is 3/8" ribarb that is approx 18" top to bottom with
> a platter cast into the bottom. I just add the platters until the
> tail is somewhat balanced with the nose wheel. Since the main gear
> provides an "over-center" geometry I can (with one hand and a coffee
> cup in the other) drop the tail within 18" of the ground or raise
> the tail and the nose will stay on the ground.
>
> Very quick and handy and I only need to move 35 lbs at a time. Six
> or seven platters will do the trick. Sorry for the lack of a picture
> but I am traveling at this time.
>
> If anyone has factual information from Vans engineering that this
> technique will harm the airframe then please respond.
>
> Bill DeRouchey
> N939SB
>
>
> --- On Mon, 5/11/09, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>
> From: Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Front wheel service
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 9:11 AM
> I have used it, but makes checking the torque on the fork swing
> impossible.
>
> I just used a 2x4 (padded) and 2 bottle jacks (built like Tim's)
> just aft of the exhaust pipes under the fuselage. Worked great!
>
> grumpy
>
> do not archive
>
> On May 10, 2009, at 7:38 PM, pilotdds@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Anyone use the nut at the bottom of the fork as a jacking point to
> service the front wheel?What are you guys doing to jack up the
> aircraft for front wheel service.I am told weighting down the tail
> can cause damabe.thanks-jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 1:40 pm
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: EA10 electric aileron trim
>
> Do you mean the standard Van's RV-10 Electric Aileron Trim,
> like Section OP-38 in the plans? If so, it seems to work
> real well...better than I figured it would. The fuel
> imbalance, (and in my case the pilot vs. wife imbalance)
> can be pretty significant, so I find I use it on most of
> the X/C trips. No real complaints.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
> Ralph E. Capen wrote:
<recapen@earthlink.net
> >
> > > Anyone done this? Care to share your experiences? Care to share
> your > results?
> > > I would like to find out how different their system on the
> pushrod is > from the one I designed for my 6A. Maybe theirs is
> better - either way, > trying to figure it out for my second
> offense.....
> > > Ralph
> > RV6A N822AR @ N06 still flying off the hours - now undergoing
> builders > withdrawl......
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? |
Does anyone have any installed or even not installed
photos of Van's sidewall mount for the tailcone where
you can mount the strobe supply to the wall?
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Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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| Subject: | Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? |
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On May 13, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any installed or even not installed
> photos of Van's sidewall mount for the tailcone where
> you can mount the strobe supply to the wall?
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? |
photos attached.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Front wheel service |
For my 9A I brought a round dolly with four swivel casters, two short
rebars, a segment of steel chain, and a few bags of pre-mix concrete (80
lb
each) from Lowes. I tied rebar in a cross and passed the center through
one
end of the chain links. Then I used cardboard to make a cylindrical form
and
kept the chain at the center of the cylinder by supporting the other end
of
the chain on top of the form. After mixing and pouring concrete in the
form
I made myself a free casting tail weight. It is cheap and easy to make.
Ted
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T.C. Chang
http://3limafoxtrot.com/
RV-9A, Lycoming (ECI) O320-D2A, 160 hp, Carb, left Mag + right
Lightspeed
EI, Sensenich FP
GRT dual DU H1, TT DigiFlight II VSGV, 573 hrs Hobbs
Last flight: http://www.mail2600.com/cgi-bin/track.cgi?call=KD8IIR
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RV10 emp, #40948
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Ackerman
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Front wheel service
One of the things that Bill's design does that some others do not is
make it
convenient - even _possible_ for some of us - to move the weights
around.
Also, it is self-centering - no need to place the tail exactly over a
fixed
anchor point.
The downward pull on my plane's tiedown ring is something just less than
300
lb, I think, with engine and prop, but no tail feathers or wings or
interior
seats and such.
My "anchor" comprises 12" X 12" X 1 1/2" concrete pavers in four stacks
on a
square wooden frame that has four casters near the corners. The frame is
2X4s on edge supporting a 1/2" plywood platform, about 28" X 28"
overall. I
needed twenty pavers, sixteen was too few. The pavers weigh about 17 lb
for
a total of 340 lb, more or less. A bolt placed horizontally through the
frame at the center provides an attach point for the block and tackle
that
pulls the tail down. A small come-along would have been better, but I
already had the block and tackle. The casters let the anchor center
itself
under the tiedown ring. If the pavers are not stacked evenly or if there
are
too few of them, the frame lifts off the floor and tips, so I strap the
pavers down to the frame with nylon straps and ratchets from Costco
"just in
case" and use a few more pavers than the minimum required. That gives a
nice, stable anchor.
This approach was cheaper and quicker (for me), but it's not nearly as
elegant and usable as Bill's, nor is it as safe. Also, the anchor takes
up a
lot of floor space in the heavy traffic area at the tail.
"Next time" I would probably invest the time and effort needed to cast
all
those weights and follow Bill's approach.
On May 12, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Bob and Karen Brown wrote:
Go to many aircraft shops and you'll see many examples of something
along
the lines of a 5 gallon bucket (or plywood framed wooden box), on
wheels,
filled with a bag or two of sakrete (premixed concrete) and set with an
anchor bolt with an eye on top just about in the center of the box or
bucket. You can roll it around wherever you want it and use it as an
anchor
point for your tie down ring. Just another variation of mounting a
tiedown
ring in your hangar.I've also seen old tires used like this, but they're
not
so convenient to move as a heavy "box" on wheels.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
DeRouchey
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Front wheel service
I have tried using a block & tackle pulling the tail to the floor, and
building a bench and using bottle jacks under the firewall to lift the
nose.
Not happy with either method.
Got busy designing and my latest scheme thusfar is the safest and most
convenient.
>From the tail tiedown I suspended a hook with weights just like a
balance
beam. Each weight or platter weights 35 lbs and is 3.5" thick made from
cast
concrete (with some ribarb support embedded). The basic hook is 3/8"
ribarb
that is approx 18" top to bottom with a platter cast into the bottom. I
just
add the platters until the tail is somewhat balanced with the nose
wheel.
Since the main gear provides an "over-center" geometry I can (with one
hand
and a coffee cup in the other) drop the tail within 18" of the ground or
raise the tail and the nose will stay on the ground.
Very quick and handy and I only need to move 35 lbs at a time. Six or
seven
platters will do the trick. Sorry for the lack of a picture but I am
traveling at this time.
If anyone has factual information from Vans engineering that this
technique
will harm the airframe then please respond.
Bill DeRouchey
N939SB
--- On Mon, 5/11/09, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
From: Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Front wheel service
I have used it, but makes checking the torque on the fork swing
impossible.
I just used a 2x4 (padded) and 2 bottle jacks (built like Tim's) just
aft of
the exhaust pipes under the fuselage. Worked great!
grumpy
do not archive
On May 10, 2009, at 7:38 PM, pilotdds@aol.com
<http://us.mc344.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pilotdds@aol.com>
wrote:
Anyone use the nut at the bottom of the fork as a jacking point to
service
the front wheel?What are you guys doing to jack up the aircraft for
front
wheel service.I am told weighting down the tail can cause
damabe.thanks-jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com
<http://us.mc344.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Tim@MyRV10.com> >
<http://us.mc344.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: RV10-List: EA10 electric aileron trim
<http://us.mc344.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Tim@myrv10.com> >
Do you mean the standard Van's RV-10 Electric Aileron Trim,
like Section OP-38 in the plans? If so, it seems to work
real well...better than I figured it would. The fuel
imbalance, (and in my case the pilot vs. wife imbalance)
can be pretty significant, so I find I use it on most of
the X/C trips. No real complaints.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Ralph E. Capen wrote:
<recapen@earthlink.net
<http://us.mc344.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=recapen@earthlink.net> >
> > Anyone done this? Care to share your experiences? Care to share your
>
results?
> > I would like to find out how different their system on the pushrod
is >
from the one I designed for my 6A. Maybe theirs is better - either way,
>
trying to figure it out for my second offense.....
> > Ralph
> RV6A N822AR @ N06 still flying off the hours - now undergoing builders
>
withdrawl......
>
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| Subject: | Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? |
Thanks Jesse. From you and another I've kind of answered my
question. That piece must fit between the stringers in
a taper so that it fits perfectly. But if I choose to mount
it lower to the floor, it may not do what I need, so I may
as well fashion my own.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On May 13, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>>
>> Does anyone have any installed or even not installed
>> photos of Van's sidewall mount for the tailcone where
>> you can mount the strobe supply to the wall?
>>
>> --
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? |
Here are some.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:49 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount?
>
> Does anyone have any installed or even not installed
> photos of Van's sidewall mount for the tailcone where
> you can mount the strobe supply to the wall?
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? |
We fashioned our own and placed on the floor adjacent left side of
batteries. We made our own bracket and riveted to he floor tied into the
edges of two Z channels
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount?
Thanks Jesse. From you and another I've kind of answered my question. That
piece must fit between the stringers in a taper so that it fits perfectly.
But if I choose to mount it lower to the floor, it may not do what I need,
so I may as well fashion my own.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On May 13, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>>
>> Does anyone have any installed or even not installed photos of Van's
>> sidewall mount for the tailcone where you can mount the strobe supply
>> to the wall?
>>
>> --
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? |
Yeah, this is for mounting the NavWorx receiver semi-permanently.
I don't mind riveting into the floors stringers, but I don't have
a lot of floor room left in the area and i'm hoping to do it
without any external painted rivets to deal with. I've got
one method that I may use instead, using their included bracket,
but for many installs I think a nice sidewall install like
the strobe pack would be great. Things have been working
great with their box, so it's time to move it from a more
temporary place to something that I'll use in the long term.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
David McNeill wrote:
>
> We fashioned our own and placed on the floor adjacent left side of
> batteries. We made our own bracket and riveted to he floor tied into the
> edges of two Z channels
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:01 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount?
>
>
> Thanks Jesse. From you and another I've kind of answered my question. That
> piece must fit between the stringers in a taper so that it fits perfectly.
> But if I choose to mount it lower to the floor, it may not do what I need,
> so I may as well fashion my own.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> Jesse Saint wrote:
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>> Cell: 352-427-0285
>> Fax: 815-377-3694
>>
>> On May 13, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any installed or even not installed photos of Van's
>>> sidewall mount for the tailcone where you can mount the strobe supply
>>> to the wall?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? |
I modified one of the strobe/elt mount brackets to fit along the floor
attaching it to two of the J-Channel. I cut the end off parallel to the
J-Channel and used a piece of angle pop-riveted to the strobe bracket.
I suppose it would have been pretty easy to make one from scratch but making
the bends is sorta tough with hand seamers. I don't have any kind of a
brake. Van's is close (20min) for me so no shipping. The brackets are
pretty cheap.
Picture attached.
-Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount?
Yeah, this is for mounting the NavWorx receiver semi-permanently.
I don't mind riveting into the floors stringers, but I don't have
a lot of floor room left in the area and i'm hoping to do it
without any external painted rivets to deal with. I've got
one method that I may use instead, using their included bracket,
but for many installs I think a nice sidewall install like
the strobe pack would be great. Things have been working
great with their box, so it's time to move it from a more
temporary place to something that I'll use in the long term.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
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