Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:39 AM - Re: Re: UMPCs for the cockpit (Werner Schneider)
2. 05:29 AM - New Saint aviation aircraft (Bobby J. Hughes)
3. 06:22 AM - Re: New Saint aviation aircraft (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
4. 08:27 AM - user and password ()
5. 08:37 AM - Re: user and password (Dj Merrill)
6. 08:49 AM - Re: user and password (pascal)
7. 08:51 AM - Learning through the efforts of others. (John Cox)
8. 09:18 AM - RV-10 group camping at OSH '09 (ivankris)
9. 09:18 AM - Re: Learning through the efforts of others. (Tim Olson)
10. 09:46 AM - Re: RV-10 group camping at OSH '09 (pilotdds@aol.com)
11. 09:52 AM - Re: RV-10 group camping at OSH '09 (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
12. 09:52 AM - Re: Adel Pliers (Doglas)
13. 10:44 AM - Re: 2009 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping Info (bcondrey)
14. 10:49 AM - Re: Learning through the efforts of others. (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
15. 10:49 AM - Re: 2009 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping Info (bcondrey)
16. 11:20 AM - Re: New Saint aviation aircraft (Jesse Saint)
17. 11:34 AM - Re: Learning through the efforts of others. (William Curtis)
18. 01:14 PM - Re: Grumman 2 place (James K Hovis)
19. 01:48 PM - Re: Learning through the efforts of others. (David Maib)
20. 01:53 PM - glueing the doors ()
21. 05:10 PM - FTW Builders? (Darton Steve)
22. 08:33 PM - Must-Have Tool Tip... (Matt Dralle)
23. 08:45 PM - Re: Learning through the efforts of others. (John Cox)
24. 09:45 PM - Re: trimming cabin cover door openings (Rob Kochman)
25. 11:52 PM - Prescott, AZ (Robin Marks)
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| Subject: | Re: UMPCs for the cockpit |
Lenny,
any source/price for the 1600 nits screen?
Werner
Lenny Iszak wrote:
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> I have a samsung Q1 ultra, and it's mostly visible, but not always.
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> I'm building a 1600 nit screen with a capacitve touch sensor. Most of the resitive
sensors i looked at are rated for max 10000ft.
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> Has anyone ever had problems with resistive touch screens (most laptops tablets
& pdas use it) working at high altitude?
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> Lenny
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245833#245833
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| Subject: | New Saint aviation aircraft |
Jesse,
When can we get a kit? Looks like a very practical machine for the
mission.
Bobby J Hughes
N416AS Rotary RV10 Phase 1
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| Subject: | New Saint aviation aircraft |
Huh?
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Bobby J. Hughes
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: New Saint aviation aircraft
Jesse,
When can we get a kit? Looks like a very practical machine for the mission.
Bobby J Hughes
N416AS Rotary RV10 Phase 1
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| Subject: | user and password |
Hello Matt:
Please help with user ID and Password for me. I am on the RV-10 list
email distribution as: karolamy@roadrunner.com. I would like to post
today and cannot remember either! I can just set up a new one if needed
- please let me know how, as I can't seem to even get started!
Thanks,
Rich Hansen
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| Subject: | Re: user and password |
On 05/29/2009 11:26 AM, karolamy@roadrunner.com wrote:
> Please help with user ID and Password for me. I am on the RV-10 list
> email distribution as: karolamy@roadrunner.com
> <mailto:karolamy@roadrunner.com>. I would like to post today and
> cannot remember either! I can just set up a new one if needed -
> please let me know how, as I can't seem to even get started!
>
Hi Rich,
The email you just sent was posted to the RV10 list, so you are
doing the right thing! :-)
Just send another e-mail to "rv10-list@matronics.com" containing
what you want to post and you should be fine.
-Dj
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| Subject: | Re: user and password |
try dralle@matronics.com- that is the list Administrator. under
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
From: karolamy@roadrunner.com
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:26 AM
Subject: RV10-List: user and password
Hello Matt:
Please help with user ID and Password for me. I am on the RV-10 list
email distribution as: karolamy@roadrunner.com. I would like to post
today and cannot remember either! I can just set up a new one if needed
- please let me know how, as I can't seem to even get started!
Thanks,
Rich Hansen
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| Subject: | Learning through the efforts of others. |
Here is an AD for certificated GA production aircraft (posted this morning)
which could hold a kernal of wisdom on gps antenna mounting for 10 builder
s.
John Cox
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| Subject: | RV-10 group camping at OSH '09 |
I understand that once again this year there will be a camping area set aside for
the RV-10 group. I found out from Tim Olsen that Bob Condrey and Gary Specketer
are looking after the arrangements this year but I don't know how to contact
either one of them.
Would one of you fellows please send me a PM to ivankris at rogers dot com with
information on how to get signed up with the RV-10 camping gang at OSH 2009.
Thanks
Ivan Kristensen.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245907#245907
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| Subject: | Re: Learning through the efforts of others. |
Amen, but that's what I've been saying since day one. If it's
my tablet's GPS antenna, no big deal. But for my 480's WAAS
LPV capable antenna, no....install as directed by the manufacturer.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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John Cox wrote:
> Here is an AD for certificated GA production aircraft (posted this
> morning) which could hold a kernal of wisdom on gps antenna mounting for
> 10 builders.
>
> John Cox
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 group camping at OSH '09 |
It sounds like its that time.Could you please post the info on the list for the
group camping two months will go by quickly!!!-Jim 728DD
-----Original Message-----
From: ivankris <ivankris@rogers.com>
Sent: Fri, 29 May 2009 9:16 am
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 group camping at OSH '09
I understand that once again this year there will be a camping area set aside
for the RV-10 group. I found out from Tim Olsen that Bob Condrey and Gary
Specketer are looking after the arrangements this year but I don't know how to
contact either one of them.
Would one of you fellows please send me a PM to ivankris at rogers dot com with
information on how to get signed up with the RV-10 camping gang at OSH 2009.
Thanks
Ivan Kristensen.
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| Subject: | RV-10 group camping at OSH '09 |
Ivan,
I'll contact you off-list also, but here's a post with tentative info
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=57784&highlight 09+osh
I'm compiling a list from folks that have contacted me offline but
intent was to post something in late June since there really isn't
anything that can be done before that.
Bob
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ivankris
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:17 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 group camping at OSH '09
I understand that once again this year there will be a camping area set
aside for the RV-10 group. I found out from Tim Olsen that Bob Condrey
and Gary Specketer are looking after the arrangements this year but I
don't know how to contact either one of them.
Would one of you fellows please send me a PM to ivankris at rogers dot
com with information on how to get signed up with the RV-10 camping gang
at OSH 2009.
Thanks
Ivan Kristensen.
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John I can tell you for certain that the answer to your question is, YES! An emphatic
Yes!!! I have used these pliers for about six months now on plenty of
jobs, with success and a very low stress levels. I have in the past used hemostats,
safety wire, vise grips, screwdrivers...etc. All with cuts, limited success,
and 4 times the effort and time. I just finished using these pliers to
install adel clamps on all the fluid carrying lines that I replaced in a Mooney.
Need I say more than MOONEY. Here is one example... Two oil lines side
by side, double stacked adel clamps, bushing with the AN bolt running through
the firewall secured with a nut in the wheel well. Took me no longer than 45
seconds to perform this task without any stress. Buy the pliers, you'll be glad
you did.
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Douglas
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| Subject: | Re: 2009 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping Info |
Just bumping the thread due to interest.
After consultation with Gary, we'll again stake out the sites on Tuesday 7/21 which
winds up being 13 nights. Price this year is $21 per night which comes out
to $273. You can either mail me a check (contact me offline for address) or
use PayPal. PayPal is much easier all the way around but there's a fee of about
$8 that they'll take out so if you use that service you'll need to send $281.
The campsite will be in your name (I will need your EAA number) and will be paid
for with a check rather than a credit card. This means if you leave early you
will receive a check from EAA when you turn in your site registration on your
way out of the campgrounds. Tim has said that he will once again have info
on his website to facilitate people leaving early coordinating with others coming
late in the week.
Summary, if you want a campsite:
- I need $273 from you ($281 if using PayPal)
-if using PayPal, please send to bcondrey at cox dot net
- I will need your EAA number for the registration and your membership must be
valid
- it would be helpful if you'd send me an email with the date you're planning to
arrive and leave and the type of camper (Class A, tent, etc)
Bob
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| Subject: | Learning through the efforts of others. |
I think one thing that is important, but was only alluded to, in that AD is how
it was fine with a standard GPS antenna because of the number of satellites
that were in motion to provide coverage. Now the problem is twofold, the GAO
is predicting a degradation in coverage because they will not be replacing satellites
before they start to have failures and the second problem is that there
is only two Geostationary satellites providing WAAS which is much more susceptible
to shadowing.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Learning through the efforts of others.
Amen, but that's what I've been saying since day one. If it's
my tablet's GPS antenna, no big deal. But for my 480's WAAS
LPV capable antenna, no....install as directed by the manufacturer.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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John Cox wrote:
> Here is an AD for certificated GA production aircraft (posted this
> morning) which could hold a kernal of wisdom on gps antenna mounting for
> 10 builders.
>
> John Cox
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| Subject: | Re: 2009 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping Info |
FAQs
http://www.myrv10.com/osh/Camping_FAQ.html
or
- What do I do when I get to OSH?
When you get close to OSH you should call Gary or I to meet you at the Camp Scholler
registration entrance. Well already have registered you and will have your
car pass.
- Im flying in, what do I do when I get there?
There are EAA people that shuttle people from the plane parking area to Camp Scholler
in the days leading up to the opening. Give us a call when you get in and
well let you know specifically where we are at. If youre in the vintage parking
area its likely that a few of us can come over and help you carry stuff.
- What exactly does it mean when you stake out a site?
Camp Scholler starts out as a big, empty field. When you register you receive a
vehicle pass and also a card for your site. At that point you can rope off your
site and display the card. If a site is roped off and there is no card displayed
the stakes/ropes will be removed by security. Yes, they are actually driving
around looking for this! What Tim and I are doing is getting there early
(when prime locations are available), register the group, stake out/rope off sites,
and attach the registration cards to each site.
- Im arriving late, what about my site?
Your site will be registered and marked off at the same time as part of the big
batch. When you get in, regardless of when that is, your site will be there with
your name on it!
- Im leaving before the end of the show, can I get a refund for the unused days?
Yes, you can get a refund. You simply turn in the site registration card and theyll
give you a check on the spot. Regardless of how you pay us for your site
we will pay using a check which will allow for a cash refund.
- Im only staying for the first few days of the show, can somebody else takeover
my site when I leave?
Yes, Tim has an area on his website where it shows the on site information for
each person that has registered. One of the purposes of that is to facilitate
coordination with others. Any financial arrangements are completely up to the
individuals.
- Why so early for staking sites?
Whats the difference between having you get my site and doing it myself?
We are getting there early to get a group of sites together that is reasonably
close to the entrance, showers, camp store, etc. We arent doing anything special
except for that.
- Is there a place to fill the water tank in my motorhome? What about dumping the
tanks? There is a place at the southwest corner of Camp Scholler where you
can fill water tanks and/or dump tanks. Usually people fill the water tank on
the way in and dump tanks on the way out. There is also a septic service that
will (for a small fee) drive over to your site and dump your tanks. The only options
for refilling the water tank are to drive over to the area mentioned above
or use containers. I have done this in the past and will have a couple of
6 gal containers that you are welcome to borrow. Water is available near the shower
building for this purpose.
- Are the sites shaded?
It is highly unlikely that youll have a site with shade.
- What is the size of the sites in Camp Scholler? Nominal size is 20x30 feet however
some are slightly smaller, some are slightly larger and some have the same
number of square feet but are dimensionally a little different. This is the
reason that we are requesting info about what sort of camping accommodations
youll have. If you've got a large class A it's not a problem staking out the
site a little larger.
- How can I recharge my cell phone?
Generally in the afternoon and evening people with generators will fire them up
to recharge batteries, run air conditioning etc. Last year we had a couple of
power strips and people charged up. Another option would be to use the power
outlets on the exterior of the shower building.
- What bathroom and shower facilities are there?
There have been major improvements to the grounds this year including flush toilets!
There are also new shower facilities but I don't have details on them.
- Is there any sort of Internet access for checking email?
Near the shower building is a small building with a few internet connected computers
available for use free of charge. They are open during the day and usually
there isnt any wait. There is also supposed to be WiFi available at Camp Scholler
this year!
- Is there a place within walking distance for food, ice and other supplies?
There is a camp store with a large variety of food and camping essentials.
- What about getting around - is there any transportation besides walking?
There are shuttle buses that run from the Theater in the Woods area and will take
you all the way out to the warbirds at the north end of the field with numerous
stops in between. There is also a bus to Outlet Mall that departs from main
entrance.
- I already have lodging but would like to stop by, when is a good time?
Just about any afternoon or evening there will be a few people around!
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| Subject: | RE: New Saint aviation aircraft |
I assume you are talking about the Maverick Flying Car. If so, it's
an I-TEC aircraft (www.itecusa.org). We are still in the prototyping
stage, but it does fly. You can see videos on YouTube and our
website, and you will be able to see it on AeroShell Square at Osh
this year.
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Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
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| Subject: | Re: Learning through the efforts of others. |
Good points but note this is NOT an AD, it's not even a Service Bulletin,
it's an Information Bulletin (SAIB). The intent is to bring it to pilot's
attention but does not rise to the level of safety of flight. It even says
that in the second paragraph.
AD's are mandatory for ALL aircraft listed. Service Bulletins are NOT
mandatory for Part 91 aircraft and SAIBs are just advisory.
Also, I have an aluminum mesh in my RV-10 fiberglass canopy but I guess,
most 10 builders will not have a mesh making the -10 canopy effectively
transparent for GPS signals.
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/90Electrical/antenna.html
William Curtis
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:49 PM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <
rvbuilder@sausen.net> wrote:
> rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
> I think one thing that is important, but was only alluded to, in that AD
> is how it was fine with a standard GPS antenna because of the number of
> satellites that were in motion to provide coverage. Now the problem is
> twofold, the GAO is predicting a degradation in coverage because they will
> not be replacing satellites before they start to have failures and the
> second problem is that there is only two Geostationary satellites providing
> WAAS which is much more susceptible to shadowing.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:10 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Learning through the efforts of others.
>
>
> Amen, but that's what I've been saying since day one. If it's
> my tablet's GPS antenna, no big deal. But for my 480's WAAS
> LPV capable antenna, no....install as directed by the manufacturer.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> John Cox wrote:
> > Here is an AD for certificated GA production aircraft (posted this
> > morning) which could hold a kernal of wisdom on gps antenna mounting for
> > 10 builders.
> >
> > John Cox
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| Subject: | Re: Grumman 2 place |
I miss my AA-1A with the 160hp engine!
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:10 PM, David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
> I talked with the Grumman guru and found the following. The worst of the
> lot was an AA-1 with an O235 engine. The wing was very fast and stalled
> about 60kts; not the characteristics desired in a trainer. Grumman modified
> the wing airfoil and came with the AA-1A, AA-1B, and AA-1C. the later models
> had the modified wing that reduced the stall and many of those have now been
> STCed to a O320 150 HP engine. Grumman made an four place AA-5 airframe, if
> it has the 150 HP engine it is really a two place aircraft ( Traveler) and
> pretty anemic. If it has the O360 180HP engine it has respectable
> performance and is called the Tiger.
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Learning through the efforts of others. |
Wise advice indeed, but it does not look like an AD to me.
Informational only, I think.
David Maib
40559
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines.
Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails.
Explore. Dream. Discover."
-Mark Twain
On May 29, 2009, at 11:50 AM, John Cox wrote:
<CE-09-32.pdf>
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| Subject: | glueing the doors |
Chris:
Great post! I am at the same place doing the same thing.
Sharing even further - simply fit/size/and drill all your door handle
hardware, pin blocks, and even latch pins to JUST the inner skin first,
then since you have already match drilled the skins on the canopy,
clecoe the inner and outer skins together and back drill the above
referenced holes. You can also now check the fit of the long and short
latch pins (the bend you made in them) for skin interference - you will
be able to SEE this fit as opposed to guessing since you can simply
separate the two skins and view the latch mechanism at work. In
addition you can perform the below with the skins apart.
Installing my grab handles in the middle of the door, necessitated
doublers and platenuts to be mounted on the inside skin and epoxied in
place. In addition I am fab/installing pull down straps that will have
a multi-function of holding the door partially open while taxiing in hot
temps. These, of course need doublers with platenuts. NONE of these
could have been done easily (or maybe at all) if the door skins had
already been epoxied together. So for others at this stage, take
Chris's GREAT SUGGESTION and don't glue your doors together without
thinking way ahead as to what accessories you may want.
Next would be planning, cutting, fitting for door locks of choice and
needed doublers of choice. Then once all the above steps are
completed, take everything off/out, epoxy the skins together per plans
and just keep the above pre-drilled holes clear by temporarily
installing some bolts in the holes and remove them once the epoxy has
begun to set up, but before it is fully cured and developed its
strength.
Yeah, it took about 30,000 hours of think time to fabricate the two
simple additions!
PS: Thanks to Tim and DJ and Matt for helping me get with the program
on posting!
Rich Hansen
Finishing Kit
RV-6A 1000hrs
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If there are any builders in the FTW/DAL/DFW area I will have some serious down
time June 4th to 6th. I would be willing to be a helper for a day or two.
Steve 40212 wings
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| Subject: | Must-Have Tool Tip... |
Dear Listers,
I don't know, maybe everyone but me already knew about this little gem of a tool,
but in case you missed it, I thought I share. If you don't have one of these,
run - don't walk - down to your local Home Depot or Ace Hardware store and
get one! All of those #8 screws in the RVs are a giant pain to work in and out
and some are just impossible to get to. I've been using this little guy on
the RV-8 project and can't image not having it now. The bendable shaft is really
strong and you can bend the heck out of it without impacting the torque.
Its about $13 at Home Depot which is a great deal considering how handy it is.
Here's a link to it on the Ace Hardware web page. I also attached a picture of
mine attached to my Dewalt electric screw driver.
http://www.acehardware.com/sm-eazypower-flex-a-bit-plus-eazypower-flex-a-bit-plus--pi-2467822.html
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
Fitting Wheel Pants - Ug, These Suck...
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| Subject: | Learning through the efforts of others. |
Whether or not an item is an AD has been beaten to death on this list in
the distant past. The kernal of wisdom lies with those who have not yet
taken the path of installation where the antenna's function might just
be degraded at a time which could impact safety in a negative manor.
This issue is much like the Emergency Locator Beacons of the 121.5
variety with antenna which could never transmit a signal to save the
soles on board.
Let me apologize for the casualness of my email which caused a few to
think in terms of narrow Airworthiness Directives. I did not forget
that many bask in the Experiment portion of Experimental Amateur Built
Kit and go defensive on the use of the work Airworthiness. I received
it from the Fed on a daily AD notification subscription. I found value
in what Cirrus was doing to make their aircraft safer for their
operators. Sorry to waste valuable bandwidth. it was offered as
Information Only for the Safe use of RV-10 builders.
John Cox
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of David Maib
Sent: Fri 5/29/2009 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Learning through the efforts of others.
Wise advice indeed, but it does not look like an AD to me. Informational
only, I think.
David Maib
40559
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
Dream. Discover."
-Mark Twain
On May 29, 2009, at 11:50 AM, John Cox wrote:
<CE-09-32.pdf>
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| Subject: | Re: trimming cabin cover door openings |
Thank you all for the tips. Sounds like I should be reasonably conservative
for now and expect to cut more later, but not worry about it too much. I
will now have to go find something else to worry about.
Thanks again..
-Rob
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM, linn <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Les, thanks for the note! This morning we glued the pilots door halves
> together. Attached is picture. You can see the tabs I used to hold the
> bottom door tight to the fuselage. The door halves fit really well
> together, and did fit the contour of the fuselage with the exception of the
> very top where the hinges go. Also, the angle of the two halves was
> different in the area of the third cleco up where the windshield will be,
> and I just filled that with epoxy/milled fiber. All in all, the gluing went
> well, but it was really messy!!!
>
> Now comes the trimming/sanding/filling/sanding/contouring .....
>
> Passenger door goes together next week!! ... Should be a whole lot easier
> since I didn't trim the passenger side like the pilot side!!!
> Linn
>
> Les Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> Linn
>>
>> I am not sure if I understand your problem about the bottom of the door,
>> but
>> if I have got it right there may be a better solution for you.
>>
> SNIP!
>
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Wings
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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John Ackerman, Bill Derouchey,
I'm going to be in Prescott with N110EE late Saturday to
early Tuesday. Most likely at Ledged Aviation 928-443-9333. I hope we
can connect to swap stories.
Deems, we are coming to visit!
Robin Marks
805.801.8550
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