---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 05/31/09: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:35 AM - Re: wiggly step syndrome (johngoodman) 2. 06:20 AM - Step bushings (Bob-tcw) 3. 08:02 AM - tow bars (greghale) 4. 08:11 AM - Re: Step bushings (John Gonzalez) 5. 08:22 AM - Re: tow bars (Ron B.) 6. 08:23 AM - Re: tow bars (lbgjb10) 7. 08:29 AM - Re: tow bars (AirMike) 8. 08:42 AM - Re: tow bars (Ben Westfall) 9. 08:42 AM - Re: tow bars (Bob Leffler) 10. 08:42 AM - Moving to the airport (AirMike) 11. 08:42 AM - Re: Step bushings (Bob-tcw) 12. 08:55 AM - Re: Re: tow bars/rudder gust lock (Don McDonald) 13. 09:12 AM - Re: Moving to the airport (Jim Berry) 14. 09:45 AM - Re: tow bars (David Maib) 15. 10:03 AM - Steel Bits Revisited (Les Kearney) 16. 10:24 AM - Re: Steel Bits Revisited (David Maib) 17. 02:33 PM - Re: Must-Have Tool Tip... (greghale) 18. 02:59 PM - Re: Steel Bits Revisited (Don McDonald) 19. 03:30 PM - Re: Re: tow bars/rudder gust lock (Deems Davis) 20. 03:30 PM - Re: tow bars (jim@CombsFive.Com) 21. 08:44 PM - Re: tow bars (greghale) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:48 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: wiggly step syndrome From: "johngoodman" My steps had a slight wiggle, but I replaced the AN3 bolt with an AN173 close tolerance bolt and it's rock solid. Get 'em at Aircraft Spruce. John -------- #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started. N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246114#246114 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:14 AM PST US From: "Bob-tcw" Subject: RV10-List: Step bushings I've added an additional note to the step bushing installion sheet regarding what to do when the hole in the step tube is not centered in the tube. Here's a copy of the revised install sheet for those that already have the step bushings. It's also now on our web site. One other note, the idea behind the step bushings was not only to help resolve wiggly steps caused by the tube hole getting a little too big during the drilling process, but also to help over the long haul by providing a structure for the step bolt to actually provide a clamping force against, thereby allowing the step tube to be tightly secured to the step weld-mount. Bob Newman 40176 www.tcwtech.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:36 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: tow bars From: "greghale" Who is selling a nose wheel tow bar for the RV10? I thought they were available on Alex De Dominicis site. Greg... -------- Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH www.nwacaptain.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246144#246144 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:11:36 AM PST US From: John Gonzalez Subject: RE: RV10-List: Step bushings Bob=2C Can I please=2C please please=2C pretty please...live in your shop!!!!! From: rnewman@tcwtech.com Subject: RV10-List: Step bushings I've added an additional note to the step bushing installion sheet regarding what to do when the hole in the step tube is not centered in the tube. Here's a copy of the revised install sheet for those that already have the step bushings. It's also now on our web site. One other note=2C the idea behind the step bushings was not only to help resolve wiggly steps caused by the tube hole getting a little too big during the drilling process=2C but also to help ov er the long haul by providing a structure for the step bolt to actually provide a clamping force against=2C thereby allowing the step tube to be tightly secured to the step weld-mount. Bob Newman 40176 www.tcwtech.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:09 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: tow bars From: "Ron B." Bought mine from Aircraft Spruce. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246148#246148 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:23:02 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: tow bars From: "lbgjb10" This works great. BOGERT TOw BARS (BOGI-BARS). With a slight modification it also works great as an excellent rudder gust lock and with a bungee it will lock the stick. You can also get an attachment that extends the tow bar and has a ring on it and you can tow plane with tractor. Once on it doesn't slip. A little tricky to put on and not scratch your fiberglass. Reasonable price too and light for travel. Carry it with you--many FBO can't move plane easily, and it's a bummer to push backwards without tow bar. cheers. lbb -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246149#246149 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:26 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: tow bars From: "AirMike" Kuddos to the BOGERT TOW BARS (BOGI-BARS). The bar is well made and very sturdy. Fairly heavy to carry in the plane all the time, but sturdy in its construction. Delivered cost $101.00 with shipping. -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit - FWF end game Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246151#246151 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:26 AM PST US From: "Ben Westfall" Subject: RE: RV10-List: tow bars Bogi-bar at Aircraft Spruce http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/bogibars.php -Ben __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4117 (20090530) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:26 AM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV10-List: tow bars Bogert Aviation http://www.bogert-av.com/bogi-bars.php They have a picture of Vic pulling his RV-10 on the bottom of that page. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of greghale Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:01 AM Subject: RV10-List: tow bars Who is selling a nose wheel tow bar for the RV10? I thought they were available on Alex De Dominicis site. Greg... -------- Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH www.nwacaptain.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246144#246144 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:42:27 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Moving to the airport From: "AirMike" Moved the project 30 miles to the airport yesterday. We used a low-boy trailer used for moving heavy construction equipment. The plane is about 90-92 inches wide. the trailer is 8' giving about 2-3 inches on each side. There was also plenty of room for the wings. It was very cool. The driver disconnects the trailer in front and sets it on the ground via hydo lift. The the rise is only about 12" over a 10 foot ramp so that the tail does not hit the ground or the trailer when loading. :D :D :D :D :D Then the driver reattaches the trailer and off he goes to the airport. The unload only took 20 minutes. After 2 years of home building, my wife has her garage back -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit - FWF end game Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246153#246153 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p5302233_570.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:42:57 AM PST US From: "Bob-tcw" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Step bushings RV builders are welcome at my shop anytime, stay as long as you like..... be warned, my friends call it Newman's work camp for a reason. :) Seriously, fellow builders are truly welcome to visit anytime, -Bob Newman do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: John Gonzalez To: RV 10 group Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:03 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Step bushings Bob, Can I please, please please, pretty please...live in your shop!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: rnewman@tcwtech.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Step bushings Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:13:53 -0400 I've added an additional note to the step bushing installion sheet regarding what to do when the hole in the step tube is not centered in the tube. Here's a copy of the revised install sheet for those that already have the step bushings. It's also now on our web site. One other note, the idea behind the step bushings was not only to help resolve wiggly steps caused by the tube hole getting a little too big during the drilling process, but also to help over the long haul by providing a structure for the step bolt to actually provide a clamping force against, thereby allowing the step tube to be tightly secured to the step weld-mount. Bob Newman 40176 www.tcwtech.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:55:13 AM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: tow bars/rudder gust lock Anyone wanting a custom rudder/aileron gust lock, DON'T buy or make one unt il you see the one I came up with.- Will have pics when I get back from s ailing. Don McDonald --- On Sun, 5/31/09, lbgjb10 wrote: From: lbgjb10 Subject: RV10-List: Re: tow bars This works great.- BOGERT TOw BARS (BOGI-BARS).- With a slight modifica tion it also works great as an excellent rudder gust lock and with a bungee it will lock the stick.---You can also get an attachment that- ext ends the tow bar and has a ring on it and you can tow plane with tractor. - Once on it doesn't slip.- A little tricky to put on and not scratch y our fiberglass.- Reasonable price too and light for travel.- Carry it w ith you--many FBO can't move plane easily, and it's a bummer to push backwa rds without tow bar. cheers.- lbb -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246149#246149 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:12:20 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Moving to the airport From: "Jim Berry" I was not able to locate a lowboy trailer in my area, so I hired a tilt-bed tow truck. Worked great. The lady who schedules the trucks used to be an A & P, so knew all about how to secure the fuselage, etc. Cost me $100. Between the -10 and my Pitts, my wife's car sat outside for 7 winters. A very tolerant woman. Jim Berry 40482 N15JB Weight & balance this week, then get ready for the DAR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246160#246160 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:45:25 AM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV10-List: tow bars I will add to the chorus about the Bogi-Bar for the RV-10. I bought mine directly from Bogert. Collapses nicely to carry in the luggage compartment. BTW, Greg, I bought the seat latch levers you used to market and I love them. They look great and work great. I also love your Weight and Balance program. Best regards, David Maib 40559 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." -Mark Twain On May 31, 2009, at 11:01 AM, greghale wrote: Who is selling a nose wheel tow bar for the RV10? I thought they were available on Alex De Dominicis site. Greg... -------- Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH www.nwacaptain.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246144#246144 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:03:59 AM PST US From: "Les Kearney" Subject: RV10-List: Steel Bits Revisited Hi A while back there was a thread about what should be done regarding the steel bits on the -10 (specifically the door hinges and steps). My door hinges look like they came out of a medieval forge are only suitable for use in a Lord of the Rings remake. I have read that some have plated their steps but am uncertain if this would be suitable for hinges. I am a bit concerned about changing the geometry, however slightly, that they have when sitting on the canopy. Is there a consensus on hinges? Inquiring minds need to know Les #40643 - Living in a f/g world ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:24:05 AM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV10-List: Steel Bits Revisited Les, I had my hinges powder-coated and they work fine. I initially powder- coated the steps, but ended up painting them. We'll see how they hold up. David Maib 40559 On May 31, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Les Kearney wrote: Hi A while back there was a thread about what should be done regarding the steel bits on the -10 (specifically the door hinges and steps). My door hinges look like they came out of a medieval forge are only suitable for use in a Lord of the Rings remake. I have read that some have plated their steps but am uncertain if this would be suitable for hinges. I am a bit concerned about changing the geometry, however slightly, that they have when sitting on the canopy. Is there a consensus on hinges? Inquiring minds need to know Les #40643 ' Living in a f/g world ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:33:34 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Must-Have Tool Tip... From: "greghale" I use one on both the RV8 and RV10. Great tool. Purchased it at Home Depot. Greg... -------- Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH www.nwacaptain.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246202#246202 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:59:50 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Steel Bits Revisited I have made up some really nice brackets that almost completely cover the h inges.=C2- Made up about 50, but then made some changes to make them fit even better and haven't rerun them yet.=C2- Will have pics of them and th e rudder gust lock when I get home this week. Don McDonald --- On Sun, 5/31/09, Les Kearney wrote: From: Les Kearney Subject: RV10-List: Steel Bits Revisited Hi =C2- A while back there was a thread about what should be done regarding the ste el bits on the -10 (specifically the door hinges and steps). My door hinges look like they came out of a medieval forge are only suitable for use in a Lord of the Rings remake. I have read that some have plated their steps bu t am uncertain if this would be suitable for hinges. I am a bit concerned a bout changing the geometry, however slightly, that they have when sitting o n the canopy. =C2- Is there a consensus on hinges? =C2- Inquiring minds need to know =C2- Les #40643 =93 Living in a f/g world =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:30:57 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: tow bars/rudder gust lock I haven't seen it , but I want one! Deems Don McDonald wrote: > Anyone wanting a custom rudder/aileron gust lock, DON'T buy or make > one until you see the one I came up with. Will have pics when I get > back from sailing. > Don McDonald > > --- On *Sun, 5/31/09, lbgjb10 //* wrote: > > > From: lbgjb10 > Subject: RV10-List: Re: tow bars > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 8:22 AM > > > > > This works great. BOGERT TOw BARS (BOGI-BARS). With a slight > modification it also works great as an excellent rudder gust lock > and with a bungee it will lock the stick. You can also get an > attachment that extends the tow bar and has a ring on it and you > can tow plane with tractor. Once on it doesn't slip. A little > tricky to put on and not scratch your fiberglass. Reasonable > price too and light for travel. Carry it with you--many FBO can't > move plane easily, and it's a bummer to push backwards without tow > bar. cheers. lbb > > -------- > Larry and Gayle N104LG > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246149#24614om/Navigator?RV10-List" > target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator? - > MATRONICS WEB FORUM; -Matt Dralle, List Admin========= > > > > > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:30:57 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: tow bars From: jim@CombsFive.Com I have the one from SkyGeek.com http://www.skygeek.com/4-rv10.html works well for me. Jim C N312F - Flying 70 hours! --> RV10-List message posted by: "greghale" Who is selling a nose wheel tow bar for the RV10? I thought they were available on Alex De Dominicis site. Greg... -------- Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH www.nwacaptain.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246144#246144 - The RV10-List Email Forum - Features Navigator to browse Un/Subscription, Chat, FAQ, --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - available via the Web Forums! http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - generous support! Admin. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:59 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: tow bars From: "greghale" Thanks everyone for your input. Now if I can figure a way to not damage the nose wheel pant with the tow bar. 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