---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/04/09: 36 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:33 AM - Re: Wing Installation and wing bolts (orchidman) 2. 05:35 AM - Re: Dynon Autopilot (fixitauto@aol.com) 3. 06:20 AM - Re: Dynon Autopilot (Jesse Saint) 4. 06:26 AM - Re: America's Aircraft Engine (pascal) 5. 06:37 AM - Re: America's Aircraft Engine (Rene Felker) 6. 07:53 AM - Re: America's Aircraft Engine (pilotdds@aol.com) 7. 08:13 AM - Dynon AP Flight Test (Jesse Saint) 8. 11:15 AM - Sam James Cowl (pilotdds@aol.com) 9. 11:24 AM - Re: Dynon AP Flight Test (Bob Turner) 10. 11:32 AM - Re: Sam James Cowl (Ralph E. Capen) 11. 11:47 AM - Cold air induction (pilotdds@aol.com) 12. 11:48 AM - Re: Re: Dynon AP Flight Test (Jesse Saint) 13. 12:04 PM - Re: Cold air induction (Robin Marks) 14. 01:25 PM - Re: Cold air induction (gary) 15. 02:47 PM - Glider flying, HuH!! (John Gonzalez) 16. 03:02 PM - Re: Cold air induction (Deems Davis) 17. 03:46 PM - Re: Sam James Cowl (Deems Davis) 18. 04:20 PM - Re: Sam James Cowl (Robin Marks) 19. 04:43 PM - Re: Sam James Cowl (David McNeill) 20. 05:13 PM - Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! (Deems Davis) 21. 06:20 PM - Re: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! (David Maib) 22. 06:26 PM - Re: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! (pilotdds@aol.com) 23. 06:29 PM - Re: Wing Installation and wing bolts (Jim Berry) 24. 06:49 PM - Re: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! (Scott Schmidt) 25. 06:51 PM - Re: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! (Ron B.) 26. 07:05 PM - Re: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! (Deems Davis) 27. 07:37 PM - Re: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! (Les Kearney) 28. 07:53 PM - Re: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! (Miller John) 29. 09:03 PM - Re: Wing Installation and wing bolts (AirMike) 30. 09:07 PM - Re: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! (AirMike) 31. 09:20 PM - Re: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! (Rene) 32. 09:40 PM - Re: Phase 1 'Things' (Deems Davis) 33. 09:41 PM - Re: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! (pascal) 34. 09:44 PM - Re: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! (Deems Davis) 35. 09:50 PM - stec 55x auto pilot (Chris and Susie) 36. 10:22 PM - Re: stec 55x auto pilot (Kelly McMullen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:40 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Wing Installation and wing bolts From: "orchidman" I think I only used 2 bolts per side but they were very close fitting (not drive tight). There was no play. I did not chill my bolts but did lub the shafts just a little. I used a rubber tipped hammer to tap the final bolts in but chilling would help also. On the second installation, I put my temps back in first then installed the 4 large bolts, removed the small ones and installed the final small ones. Note, if you installed the blue AN fittings on the fuel tanks for tank testing and fuel line construction, you will have to take them back off so you can get the lower outside 3/8 bolt in. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N2GB Flying) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246743#246743 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:31 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot From: fixitauto@aol.com Jesse What did you use for pitch control servo mounting brackets? -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Saint Sent: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 7:51 pm Subject: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot For those who will be going with a more budget-level panel and might be considering a Dynon EFIS and Autopilot, I just installed the Dynon servos today and will be test flying it tomorrow. ?I will report on how well it handles the plane, especially compared to the TruTrak line that I am very familiar with. ?The installation of the servos was very simple and the wiring was even easier. ?I am impressed so far. ?Now we'll see how it flies. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:55 AM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot It was a bracket provided by Dynon. It mounts where the original Van's bracket mounted for the TruTrak servo before TruTrak changed to the Torque Enhanced Servo. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Jun 4, 2009, at 8:33 AM, fixitauto@aol.com wrote: > Jesse > > What did you use for pitch control servo mounting brackets? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Saint > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 7:51 pm > Subject: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot > > For those who will be going with a more budget-level panel and might > be considering a Dynon EFIS and Autopilot, I just installed the > Dynon servos today and will be test flying it tomorrow. I will > report on how well it handles the plane, especially compared to the > TruTrak line that I am very familiar with. The installation of the > servos was very simple and the wiring was even easier. I am > impressed so far. Now we'll see how it flies. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > Cell: 352-427-0285 > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > > Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off to learn how. > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:43 AM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: America's Aircraft Engine guess, other than Rob, no feedback.. My follow-up question is for those that went the non-new engine mode via Van's. Specifically a standard engine build (non cold induction) Why did you chose this route versus just getting a NEW engine through Van's? Thanks! Pascal From: pascal Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: RV10-List: America's Aircraft Engine Looking for feedback on America's Aircraft engine in Oklahoma. Any feedback is appreciated! Pascal ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:53 AM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: America's Aircraft Engine I did it to save money...in the end, no real price difference.. If I was doing it again, I would buy a new engine. Rene' Felker RV-10 N423CF Flying 801-721-6080 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pascal Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:27 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: America's Aircraft Engine guess, other than Rob, no feedback.. My follow-up question is for those that went the non-new engine mode via Van's. Specifically a standard engine build (non cold induction) Why did you chose this route versus just getting a NEW engine through Van's? Thanks! Pascal From: pascal Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: RV10-List: America's Aircraft Engine Looking for feedback on America's Aircraft engine in Oklahoma. Any feedback is appreciated! Pascal href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: America's Aircraft Engine From: pilotdds@aol.com I purchased a high time used engine to test fly aircraft and settle coolin g and airframe issues without worrying about babying new engine.I then ove rhauled it myself.Worked out well but next time will purchase new from Van s,as cooling and airframe issues were minimal.Experience of rebuilding was fun ,cheaper than new but is time consuming and reduces resale. -----Original Message----- From: Rene Felker Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 6:37 am Subject: RE: RV10-List: America's Aircraft Engine I did it to save money..in the end, no real price difference =C2- If I was doing it again, I would buy a new engine. =C2- Rene' Felker RV-10 N423CF Flying 801-721-6080 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of pascal Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:27 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: America's Aircraft Engine =C2- guess, other than Rob, no feedback.. My follow-up question is for those that went the non-new engine mode via Van's. Specifically a standard engine build (non cold induction) Why did you chose this route versus just getting a NEW engine through Van' s? Thanks! Pascal =C2- From: pascal Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: RV10-List: America's Aircraft Engine =C2- Looking for feedback on America's Aircraft engine in Oklahoma. Any feedback is20appreciated! =C2- Pascal =C2- =C2- href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2- ======================== =========== -= - The RV10-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt D ralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:47 AM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: RV10-List: Dynon AP Flight Test Here's the first take on a short test flight on the Dynon Autopilot. The weather was turning bad, so we only got a 20 minute flight, but it was enough to know that the AP works. First of all, turning on the autopilot can be done on the Dynon screen, through the AP74 (which I don't have installed yet), or via the Control Wheel Steering switch on the stick grip (hold for 2 seconds and release). There are 2 presets when activating via the switch, one holds current heading and altitude, and I think the other flies your heading bug and altitude bug (I didn't test the second yet, but it is a main setting, so it can't be easily changed). Using the current heading and altitude also syncs the heading and altitude bugs to your current heading and altitude. The CWS function worked great and it grabbed my heading and altitude and held them fine. I haven't gotten into tweaking the sensitivity and torque, but the default sensitivity (10) and torque (100%) seemed to work great at first glance. There are 3 modes for steering. The first is heading bug, which it flew just fine. We have the HS34, so there is a dedicated knob for changing the heading bug, which is really nice. It flew that all just fine at what seemed like a standard rate turn. The turn rate and max bank angle can be changed in the settings. Second is track mode, which then gives you a track bug that you change with the heading bug knob when in track mode. So, when flying a heading given by ATC, heading mode would be used. When flying a desired heading/track, track would be used. Both worked great, with smooth and even turns. The third mode is Nav. A nice thing about having the HS34 is that you can get GPS and Nav Radio inputs, so it will fly the HSI on either GPS (GPS Steering via the ARINC data stream) using Track or on the Nav radio using heading. It flew GPS Steering perfectly. Without the AP74, you have to use the EFIS menus to change which mode is used. Heading is default, so 4 button presses will change the mode (Menu - AP - Mode - select mode). The altitude modes, at this point, are either Altitude Hold or Altitude Preselect. In either mode it gives you an indicator to trim up or down as is needed. To change from hold to preselect, you just move the altitude bug. Again, with the HS34, there is a "Value" knob that defaults to set the Baro, but pushing the button changes that to the altitude bug value control. Turning the knob changes the bug in 100ft increments. I don't know if they sit it like the AFS, where if you turn the knob quickly the sensitivity changes, but it must have something like that, because it is easy to tweak a couple of hundred feet, but it can easily be set for 11,000ft, for example. There is a preset vertical speed that is used for all climbs and descents within the indicated airspeed ranges that are preset. You can set this yourself, but as mentioned earlier, it is fairly deep in the menus, so you can't adjust it easily. I would certainly like to at least see a desired vertical speed for climb separate from descent. I usually like to climb at 115kts or so, and like to descend between 300 and 500 fpm. It would be really nice to have an option to climb based on an airspeed, but that will hopefully be forthcoming as the software guys have time away from working on the new EFIS system. It would also be really nice to be able to dial in a vertical speed instead of just having a single preset. Again, this should be relatively easy in software, but I don't know where it is on their priority list. When the AP servos are installed and configured, you have an "AP" indicator on the bottom left corner of the EFIS screen. Normally it reads "AP:OFF-OFF". When taxiing or on take-off or landing rolls, it reads "AP:SPD-SPD", basically stating that you are outside of the speed range. I assume that the AP won't turn on when it reads that, but I didn't test it. When the airspeed is below the point where it starts to read, it goes back to "AP:OFF-OFF", so testing on the ground is no problem. When activated, the screen reads "AP:HDG-ALT" or "AP:TRK-ALT" or "AP:GST-ALT" (I assume it will say "AP:NAV-ALT" when using the NAV radio, but I haven't tested that yet). A feature that I like is the option of turning on either pitch or roll control alone. When flying around sightseeing, it will be nice to be able to turn and look at stuff without having to worry about altitude. This can be done by activating the ALT function and leaving the roll servo OFF. Also, until they get the vertical functions I mentioned above, it will be nice to be able to trim for climb while flying a Heading, Track or GPS Steering. While this was not intended as a comparison between Dynon and TruTrak Auto Pilots, I think some may be interested in knowing my take on comparing this with the Digiflight II VSGV. The TT has the vertical speed selection modes and the vertical GPS Steering (which is fantastic for flying GPS approaches), but it lacks a way to level off at a desired altitude. The Dynon has the altitude preselect, which is really nice, but lacks the vertical GPS Steering. Dynon plans to have this functionality when they come out with their AP76, but they have put that on the back burner while they develop their new EFIS system. The TruTrak also lacks a Heading mode (as long as it has a GPS input, it rolls into TRK mode automatically), but most people in this case would just fly Track anyway, probably, even if ATS gives them a Heading to fly. I personally don't see this as a big deal (I know I may be flamed for that). For those who care, the calibration of the servos was really easy and "clever". I was wondering while installing the servos (power, ground, disconnect and 2 DSAB wires) how it would have you tell it which servo was which, since they both are controlled through DSAB (Dynon Smart Avionics Bus - all Dynon components communicate with each other using these same two wires). When setting it up, it detects the 2 servos and then asks you to center both controls, push the disconnect switch, and then go to all 4 corners with the stick is it prompts you, pressing the disconnect switch after each one. This detects which servo is which and the range of motion. Then it will go to two corners using the servos and ask you to confirm. I will say this, that when trying to go back, it wasn't strong enough to lift the elevator all the way up (the test is done on the ground, of course), but with the needed trim indicator, I don't see this as a big problem. I personally didn't have any problems with the original TruTrak servo before going with the torque enhancer, although the original servo didn't have a trim indicator, so it could have made a difference if the plane was accidentally trimmed until the servo let go (which I have heard of happening on at least 2 occasions, one with the normal servo and one with the torque enhanced servo, in which case I would probably be glad if I didn't have the torque enhancer). If there are any specific questions, please feel free to ask off the list (or on, if you think people will want to know). I am expecting to get some more testing done in the coming days, so will know more about the Nav tracking function (I didn't have a chance to test it this flight, just the GPS Steering). Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:15:12 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Sam James Cowl From: pilotdds@aol.com Looking for feedback from those of you flying with the James cowl.Specificaly how hard was the install,how are the oil temps and where did you mount the oil cooler.Would you do it again? ? Thanks-Jim -----Original Message----- From: fixitauto@aol.com Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 5:33 am Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot Jesse What did you use for pitch control servo mounting brackets? -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Saint Sent: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 7:51 pm Subject: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot For those who will be going with a more budget-level panel and might be considering a Dynon EFIS and Autopilot, I just installed the Dynon servos today and will be test flying it tomorrow. ?I will report on how well it handles the plane, especially compared to the TruTrak line that I am very familiar with. ?The installation of the servos was very simple and the wiring was even easier. ?I am impressed so far. ?Now we'll see how it flies. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off to learn how. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:48 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dynon AP Flight Test From: "Bob Turner" Are the dynon servos always in the control loop, like the TruTrak's, or do they have a release clutch, like the Trio? If the former, could you detect any change in control pressures before and after installation? -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246806#246806 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:32:19 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sam James Cowl I have one on my 6A. I don't think my install was much different than a stock van's cowl - except for the three rings. The plenum OTOH was a real PITA. The fiberglass didn't fit the basic shape and required a bunch of reworking. Then I added the fuel purge valve for my AFP FI system to make it a little worse. My oil cooler is mounted behind #4 (it's a 4cyl- so for you it would probably be behind #6). I left some baffling material available in order for me to mount the cooler as high as possible. The oil temp goes to 185 on a warm day in May and flat-lines.....I get a little spike in temp as I descend and land. CHT's for that side are fine too...... I would do it again after knowing that the plug/mold for the plenum had been re-made....to fit....maybe they started over for the 540..... ----- Original Message ----- From: pilotdds@aol.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: RV10-List: Sam James Cowl Looking for feedback from those of you flying with the James cowl.Specificaly how hard was the install,how are the oil temps and where did you mount the oil cooler.Would you do it again? Thanks-Jim -----Original Message----- From: fixitauto@aol.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 5:33 am Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot Jesse What did you use for pitch control servo mounting brackets? -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Saint To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 7:51 pm Subject: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot For those who will be going with a more budget-level panel and might be considering a Dynon EFIS and Autopilot, I just installed the Dynon servos today and will be test flying it tomorrow. I will report on how well it handles the plane, especially compared to the TruTrak line that I am very familiar with. The installation of the servos was very simple and the wiring was even easier. I am impressed so far. Now we'll see how it flies. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off to learn how. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off to learn how. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:47:13 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Cold air induction From: pilotdds@aol.com Those of you knowledgable about the cold air induction systems in the RV-10 application,have you noticed an increase in oil temps.Does anyone sell a unit adaptable to a vans/lycoming? -----Original Message----- From: fixitauto@aol.com Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 5:33 am Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot Jesse What did you use for pitch control servo mounting brackets? -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Saint Sent: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 7:51 pm Subject: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot For those who will be going with a more budget-level panel and might be considering a Dynon EFIS and Autopilot, I just installed the Dynon servos today and will be test flying it tomorrow. ?I will report on how well it handles the plane, especially compared to the TruTrak line that I am very familiar with. ?The installation of the servos was very simple and the wiring was even easier. ?I am impressed so far. ?Now we'll see how it flies. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off to learn how. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:48:01 AM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Dynon AP Flight Test I believe they are always in the loop, but don't exercise any force unless they are turned on. They do, however, have drag on the controls, just like the TruTrak. I took out the TruTrak servos and installed the Dynon servos for the testing, so I don't expect there would have been a noticeable change. I haven't worked the controls without an autopilot servo connected in a long time, so I can't help much there. They certainly don't create a great deal of drag, but I would say they would be equivalent to the TruTrak. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Jun 4, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Bob Turner wrote: > > Are the dynon servos always in the control loop, like the TruTrak's, > or do they have a release clutch, like the Trio? If the former, > could you detect any change in control pressures before and after > installation? > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246806#246806 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:04:37 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Cold air induction From: "Robin Marks" I have the BPE FFCI unit. Love it! I have no idea about this effecting oil temps as there are so many other items on my build that probably have more of an impact on oil temps. Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotdds@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: RV10-List: Cold air induction Those of you knowledgable about the cold air induction systems in the RV-10 application,have you noticed an increase in oil temps.Does anyone sell a unit adaptable to a vans/lycoming? -----Original Message----- From: fixitauto@aol.com Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 5:33 am Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot Jesse What did you use for pitch control servo mounting brackets? -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Saint Sent: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 7:51 pm Subject: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot For those who will be going with a more budget-level panel and might be considering a Dynon EFIS and Autopilot, I just installed the Dynon servos today and will be test flying it tomorrow. I will report on how well it handles the plane, especially compared to the TruTrak line that I am very familiar with. The installation of the servos was very simple and the wiring was even easier. I am impressed so far. Now we'll see how it flies. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 ________________________________ Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off to learn how. ________________________________ Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off to learn how. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06/04/09 05:53:00 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:06 PM PST US From: "gary" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Cold air induction Barrett has a cold air sump that will bolt right on your engine, I did that for mine. I don't have any comparative data about oil temps as I did mine right away before flying. Gary Specketer 40274 Flying _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotdds@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:46 PM Subject: RV10-List: Cold air induction Those of you knowledgable about the cold air induction systems in the RV-10 application,have you noticed an increase in oil temps.Does anyone sell a unit adaptable to a vans/lycoming? -----Original Message----- From: fixitauto@aol.com Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 5:33 am Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot Jesse What did you use for pitch control servo mounting brackets? -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Saint Sent: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 7:51 pm Subject: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot For those who will be going with a more budget-level panel and might be considering a Dynon EFIS and Autopilot, I just installed the Dynon servos today and will be test flying it tomorrow. I will report on how well it handles the plane, especially compared to the TruTrak line that I am very familiar with. The installation of the servos was very simple and the wiring was even easier. I am impressed so far. Now we'll see how it flies. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 _____ Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off to learn how. _____ Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off to learn how. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:47:17 PM PST US From: John Gonzalez Subject: RV10-List: Glider flying, HuH!! Just thought you all might find this interesting. This is Mount Whitney Cal ifornia=2C 14=2C500' ASL=2C where I soar almost every weekend in the summer months. I am only sharing this=2C this is not me piloting the glider=2C nor am I en dorsing this type of flying. In soaring cross country=2C we are always thin king about many things=2C like where to land if we can't make the next airp ort=2C not getting into a box canyon where we cant get out=2C where the lif t is=2C what kind of lift etc. We often times are close to terrain=2C but n ormally we don't put ourselves on purpose into this type of gliding. Indeed =2C I have been in those canyons=2C albiet a little higher=2C but trying to climb up and out=2C always having the ability to glide down and out=2C but altitude is everything in soaring and IMO should be in any flying. Anyway enjoy this crazy guy's adventure who lived to see another day. I was flying in the area on that day=2C but away from the overdevelopment you see in th e video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjTmNJmJXbk John #409 faring in the gear fairings. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:02:26 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cold air induction Hard to tell if Cold Air contributes to oil temp issues or not. I've got Cold air, and my temps are on the high side, in fairness I live in Phoenix and it's 105 today. Thunderbolt (which was/is the experimental builder for Lycoming0 listed a Cold Air Option on it's price list at one time. don't know if it was Lycoming's on someone elses. Deems Davis Phase 1 complete pilotdds@aol.com wrote: > Those of you knowledgable about the cold air induction systems in the > RV-10 application,have you noticed an increase in oil temps.Does > anyone sell a unit adaptable to a vans/lycoming? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fixitauto@aol.com > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 5:33 am > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot > > Jesse > > What did you use for pitch control servo mounting brackets? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Saint > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 7:51 pm > Subject: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot > > For those who will be going with a more budget-level panel and might > be considering a Dynon EFIS and Autopilot, I just installed the Dynon > servos today and will be test flying it tomorrow. I will report on > how well it handles the plane, especially compared to the TruTrak line > that I am very familiar with. The installation of the servos was very > simple and the wiring was even easier. I am impressed so far. Now > we'll see how it flies. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > Cell: 352-427-0285 > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > * > > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off > > to learn how. > * > > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off > > to learn how. > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:46:28 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sam James Cowl I've got the James cowl and the plenum, and I've been asked this question before, and I still don't have a good answer. 1st I don't believe the 7-10 mph speed increase that's advertised. I'm not seeing that, and I don't know of anyone else that is. IMO the installation of the cowl is likely more difficult than Van's. Van's uses Nomex honeycomb material as a sandwich, and James doesn't, I believe he uses Paralam (?) a fiberglass type of sandwich. The result is that the James cowl is more 'floppy' (technical term). which makes fitting a bit more of a challenge. I went through 3 rolls of duct tape in the fitting of my cowl. I needed the James RV10 cowl in order to fit the BPE cold air. However I ended up modifying it anyway because there was no James cowl solution to allow for filtered air for forward facing fuel servos. The early versions of the James Cowl for the RV-10 had a smaller exit area on the lower cowl. He modified that and fixed the earlier versions, but again IMO the exit area is still small, especially if you use the Forsling exhaust headers/collectors which take up much of that area. Will James is experimenting with some larger (12%) intake rings, I don't know if there is any change in performance as a result. The plenum is another story, I found that the intake rings did not match the cowl intake rings. I ended up cutting one off and repositioning/rebuilding it. i spoke with several other builders that did the same. I did NOT use the James baffling plans but rather Van's baffle kit. This requires further modification of the aft portion of the plenum. as it's different than the Van's baffling. I also had to fabricate an oil filler neck and seal for access to the oil filler/dipstick. And I put a pop-up for the AFP fuel purge valve. The fit of the plenum to the front of the engine case was terrible, I ended up cutting it off entirely, and reglassing a new one. I'm not an aerodynamicist, but I believe the plenum would benefit from slightly larger volume of air. As it come from Sam it woujld require a major modification to allow, in hind sight, I believe I could have fabricated my own plenum for the amount of time I put into modifying Sam's. With my Phase 1 complete. I am seeing pretty good CHT's (366-388) with OAT 24C @ altitude. I believe the differential will get smaller as I balance the injectors. Oil/CHT temps. I live in the desert and I've always been worried about high engine temps. I followed almost all of the James cowl installations and flights that went before mine, and I had developed a bias that at least the BPE Jame Cowl. Had some high temp issues. After my initial flights I felt this was also true for me. I initially had oil temps of 235 F and CHT of 425F. I sealed all known baffle/plenum leaks. installed louvers on the bottom of the cowl, and installed a deflector inside the oil cooler mount. The total improvement after 10 hours of flying amounted to no more that 10 degree reduction in temps. Frustrated I moved on, and installed the wheel pants/leg fairings. And temps droppped to Oil 185-195 depending on OAT, and CHT's as noted above. I don't know if it's was coincident with the engine 'breaking-in' or not, but my personal beliefe is that installing the pants/fairings added 15 kts to the TAS and that increase of airflow through the cowl/oil cooler had the biggest effect on temps being reduced. Lastly is appearance. IMO there is no question that the James cowl is a major improvement on appearance over the stock Van's cowl. It just looks good! And I'm very happy with how it looks. So there's some more data , use your own individual decision weighting criteria for how important/unimportant those items are to you. Deems Davis N519PJ Phase 1 complete!!!!!!!!! pilotdds@aol.com wrote: > Looking for feedback from those of you flying with the James > cowl.Specificaly how hard was the install,how are the oil temps and > where did you mount the oil cooler.Would you do it again? > Thanks-Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: fixitauto@aol.com > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 5:33 am > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot > > Jesse > > What did you use for pitch control servo mounting brackets? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Saint > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 7:51 pm > Subject: RV10-List: Dynon Autopilot > > For those who will be going with a more budget-level panel and might > be considering a Dynon EFIS and Autopilot, I just installed the Dynon > servos today and will be test flying it tomorrow. I will report on > how well it handles the plane, especially compared to the TruTrak line > that I am very familiar with. The installation of the servos was very > simple and the wiring was even easier. I am impressed so far. Now > we'll see how it flies. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > Cell: 352-427-0285 > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > * > > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off > > to learn how. > * > > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off > > to learn how. > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:20:22 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sam James Cowl From: "Robin Marks" Jim, This is a loaded question. As I am one of the few flying -10 SJ Cowl & Plenums I will take a stab at it. There is absolutely no actual engineering in the James cowl. It looked good to them so they made one for the 10 with no specific reason to be that shape and inlet size etc... As far as install it's really not much different than the standard cowl but you have to consider the Plenum too. Again not much more work than the baffles on the standard cowl. You also have to know if you are using Carb/FI//Cold Induction etc... That being said once you are flying there will be a fair amount of trial work to get Oil Temps & CHT's down. The outlet area on the cowl is not sufficient to allow for adequate air flow over the cylinders and out the bottom. Especially with the awesome Forsling exhaust that flair out and further reduce the outlet area. Deems was fortunate enough to build on our experience by immediately adding several sets of louvers to the bottom of the cowl. Ideally one would add a set to the oil cooler side of the cowl to aid in air flow through the oil cooler but we both didn't want to ruin the lines. That Deems is so vein. The unfortunate thing about BOTH cowls is the poor airflow through the oil cooler wedge and out the cooling fins on the oil cooler. Someone makes an insert to better take advantage of the airflow through the oil cooler but barely. Plan on upgrading to the larger 2006 oil cooler (at minimum) with this combination. We actually reconfigured the oil cooler to receive direct RAM air into our even larger 2008 oil cooler. This had the added benefit of not taking oil cooler air from the plenum providing more air to cool the cylinders. To answer your question I would do it again? If I know what I know now then most likely but all the R&D initially required made me wish we stuck with the Vans plans. You may find that once you are flying that Vans idea of simple, light & plans built is a pretty good option. That being said it is undeniably good looking Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotdds@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:12 AM Subject: RV10-List: Sam James Cowl Looking for feedback from those of you flying with the James cowl.Specificaly how hard was the install,how are the oil temps and where did you mount the oil cooler.Would you do it again? Thanks-Jim ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:08 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sam James Cowl you guys are making me glad I went with the Vans plans. The only thing I had had to do was eliminate the air dams in front of cyl 1 and 2.for AZ weather _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:16 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sam James Cowl Jim, This is a loaded question. As I am one of the few flying -10 SJ Cowl & Plenums I will take a stab at it. There is absolutely no actual engineering in the James cowl. It looked good to them so they made one for the 10 with no specific reason to be that shape and inlet size etc. As far as install it's really not much different than the standard cowl but you have to consider the Plenum too. Again not much more work than the baffles on the standard cowl. You also have to know if you are using Carb/FI//Cold Induction etc. That being said once you are flying there will be a fair amount of trial work to get Oil Temps & CHT's down. The outlet area on the cowl is not sufficient to allow for adequate air flow over the cylinders and out the bottom. Especially with the awesome Forsling exhaust that flair out and further reduce the outlet area. Deems was fortunate enough to build on our experience by immediately adding several sets of louvers to the bottom of the cowl. Ideally one would add a set to the oil cooler side of the cowl to aid in air flow through the oil cooler but we both didn't want to ruin the lines. That Deems is so vein. The unfortunate thing about BOTH cowls is the poor airflow through the oil cooler wedge and out the cooling fins on the oil cooler. Someone makes an insert to better take advantage of the airflow through the oil cooler but barely. Plan on upgrading to the larger 2006 oil cooler (at minimum) with this combination. We actually reconfigured the oil cooler to receive direct RAM air into our even larger 2008 oil cooler. This had the added benefit of not taking oil cooler air from the plenum providing more air to cool the cylinders. To answer your question I would do it again? If I know what I know now then most likely but all the R&D initially required made me wish we stuck with the Vans plans. You may find that once you are flying that Vans idea of simple, light & plans built is a pretty good option. That being said it is undeniably good looking Robin DSC08642.jpg DSC08648.JPG DSC08658.JPG From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotdds@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:12 AM Subject: RV10-List: Sam James Cowl Looking for feedback from those of you flying with the James cowl.Specificaly how hard was the install,how are the oil temps and where did you mount the oil cooler.Would you do it again? Thanks-Jim ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:13:07 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! Today I logged the last/final flight (1.3 hrs) of 40 Phase1 hours logged on 24 flights. I never thought I'd get my fill of flying, but this came close. Changed oil & filter today to 15W-50. Cabin cover arrived from Abby. Fabbed some gust locks. No flying tomorrow. Sat Judy and I leave for our 1st trip. Woohoo ! Deems - living the dream - Davis 8-) N519PJ ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:20:15 PM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! Congratulations Deems. How sweet it is! David Maib 40559 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." -Mark Twain On Jun 4, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Deems Davis wrote: Today I logged the last/final flight (1.3 hrs) of 40 Phase1 hours logged on 24 flights. I never thought I'd get my fill of flying, but this came close. Changed oil & filter today to 15W-50. Cabin cover arrived from Abby. Fabbed some gust locks. No flying tomorrow. Sat Judy and I leave for our 1st trip. Woohoo ! Deems - living the dream - Davis 8-) N519PJ ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:10 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! From: pilotdds@aol.com Congratultions on a job well done -----Original Message----- From: David Maib Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 6:18 pm Subject: Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! ? Congratulations Deems. How sweet it is!? ? David Maib? 40559? ? "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."? -Mark Twain? ? On Jun 4, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Deems Davis wrote:? ? ? Today I logged the last/final flight (1.3 hrs) of 40 Phase1 hours logged on 24 flights. I never thought I'd get my fill of flying, but this came close. Changed oil & filter today to 15W-50. Cabin cover arrived from Abby. Fabbed some gust locks. No flying tomorrow. Sat Judy and I leave for our 1st trip. Woohoo !? ? Deems - living the dream - Davis 8-)? N519PJ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:29:53 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Wing Installation and wing bolts From: "Jim Berry" I used 2 temp bolts per wing, plus a little oil on the close tolerance bolts. We had both wings on in 45 minutes, and I did not remove them or do a second install per Van's. The only reason to pull the wings is to rivet the F-1099F and G wing root fairing supports. I substituted CherryMax rivets for the AN470 driven rivets. I figured if Van's calls for blind rivets to support the wing walk area, CherryMax's would be adequate for the other supports. Disclaimer- I did not check with Van's about the substitution. Use at your own risk. Jim Berry 40482 N15JB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246889#246889 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:27 PM PST US From: Scott Schmidt Subject: Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! Deems, where is the first trip? Scott Schmidt scottmschmidt@yahoo.com ________________________________ From: David Maib Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:18:33 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! Congratulations Deems. How sweet it is! David Maib 40559 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." -Mark Twain On Jun 4, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Deems Davis wrote: Today I logged the last/final flight (1.3 hrs) of 40 Phase1 hours logged on 24 flights. I never thought I'd get my fill of flying, but this came close. Changed oil & filter today to 15W-50. Cabin cover arrived from Abby. Fabbed some gust locks. No flying tomorrow. Sat Judy and I leave for our 1st trip. Woohoo ! Deems - living the dream - Davis 8-) N519PJ ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:51:31 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! From: "Ron B." Have fun, Fly safe. Ron Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246899#246899 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:05:07 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! We're heading to Cedar City To see Judy's Mom Sat & Sun. Then up to Provo, Mon & Tues to visit a couple of the kids. They will probably want a ride, maybe we should head to Bountiful? Deems Scott Schmidt wrote: > Deems, where is the first trip? > > Scott Schmidt > scottmschmidt@yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* David Maib > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:18:33 PM > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! > > > > > Congratulations Deems. How sweet it is! > > David Maib > 40559 > > "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you > didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail > away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. > Explore. Dream. Discover." > -Mark Twain > > > On Jun 4, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Deems Davis wrote: > > > > > Today I logged the last/final flight (1.3 hrs) of 40 Phase1 hours > logged on 24 flights. I never thought I'd get my fill of flying, but > this came close. Changed oil & filter today to 15W-50. Cabin cover > arrived from Abby. Fabbed some gust locks. No flying tomorrow. Sat > Judy and > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:37:04 PM PST US From: "Les Kearney" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! Congrats Deems Now the real fun starts! Was there anything especially interesting that happened during your phase I? Cheers Les #40643 - Living in a f/g world -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: June-04-09 6:12 PM Subject: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! Today I logged the last/final flight (1.3 hrs) of 40 Phase1 hours logged on 24 flights. I never thought I'd get my fill of flying, but this came close. Changed oil & filter today to 15W-50. Cabin cover arrived from Abby. Fabbed some gust locks. No flying tomorrow. Sat Judy and I leave for our 1st trip. Woohoo ! Deems - living the dream - Davis 8-) N519PJ ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:53:06 PM PST US From: Miller John Subject: Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! And you were ready to throw in the towel not too long ago! Congrats, Deems. If you get by TN way, we've got a room ready! grumpy N184JM do not archive On Jun 4, 2009, at 7:12 PM, Deems Davis wrote: > > Today I logged the last/final flight (1.3 hrs) of 40 Phase1 hours > logged on 24 flights. I never thought I'd get my fill of flying, but > this came close. Changed oil & filter today to 15W-50. Cabin cover > arrived from Abby. Fabbed some gust locks. No flying tomorrow. Sat > Judy and I leave for our 1st trip. Woohoo ! > > Deems - living the dream - Davis 8-) > N519PJ > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 09:03:48 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Wing Installation and wing bolts From: "AirMike" Wow - you guys are great with the help offered here. Dave M gave me some great advice this morning. He said to go buy the 3/8" SERIES 8 bolts ($1.50/ea) at Ace Hardware to use as the temporary bolts. He said to grind the threads down/off per Vans instructions. This high quality cadmium plated product is sized slightly under dimension and after the threads are ground off it slides in easily. He suggested using a minimum of 3-4 per side to prevent scoring/gauling of the precision receptacle and to provide adequate support to the wing. -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit - FWF end game Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246912#246912 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:30 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! From: "AirMike" Congrats - Your web site has been a real help and inspiration to all of us wanna-bee's trying to get where you are. Kuddos on a great achievement . Calm seas and tailing winds ahead. -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit - FWF end game Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246914#246914 ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:54 PM PST US From: "Rene" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! Your close.....Thunderbirds are at Hill AFB, Ogden this weekend......Airshow should be great. We have tickets for a show in Reno, so I have to miss the show....bumer. Rene' 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:57 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! We're heading to Cedar City To see Judy's Mom Sat & Sun. Then up to Provo, Mon & Tues to visit a couple of the kids. They will probably want a ride, maybe we should head to Bountiful? Deems Scott Schmidt wrote: > Deems, where is the first trip? > > Scott Schmidt > scottmschmidt@yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* David Maib > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:18:33 PM > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! > > > > > Congratulations Deems. How sweet it is! > > David Maib > 40559 > > "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you > didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail > away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. > Explore. Dream. Discover." > -Mark Twain > > > On Jun 4, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Deems Davis wrote: > > > > > Today I logged the last/final flight (1.3 hrs) of 40 Phase1 hours > logged on 24 flights. I never thought I'd get my fill of flying, but > this came close. Changed oil & filter today to 15W-50. Cabin cover > arrived from Abby. Fabbed some gust locks. No flying tomorrow. Sat > Judy and > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:45 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 'Things' 'Things' during Phase 1 Initial problem with the wrong oil temp sender, oil temp read WAY too low, replaced on 2nd flight. Sticky/'chirpy' right brake flts 1-3 Heavy right wing, Left flap not set correctly. Roll trim reversed (embarassed). Confirmed need for speed controller on elevator trim. Worries about high temps. As stated before probably over thought this one. Problem with poor crimps on coax for transponder antenna. Difficulty calibrating fuel tanks w/ Op Tech/JPI Volume too low on Com2. Dynon D10A b/u efis configed as kilometers per hour - kph vs knots per hour-kts (I thought I had a world record RV10 for a moment). Deems Les Kearney wrote: > > > Was there anything especially interesting that happened during your phase I? > > ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 09:41:22 PM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! This is sort of like seeing my daughter off to college Deems, for so long we saw your journey building the -10 with bumps from the FAA medical along the way but you are off and now out of the nest.. literally flying free!! (not to mention darn fast too!) Congratulations! Pascal -------------------------------------------------- From: "Deems Davis" Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:57 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! > > We're heading to Cedar City To see Judy's Mom Sat & Sun. Then up to Provo, > Mon & Tues to visit a couple of the kids. They will probably want a ride, > maybe we should head to Bountiful? > > Deems > > Scott Schmidt wrote: >> Deems, where is the first trip? >> Scott Schmidt >> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* David Maib >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:18:33 PM >> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! >> >> > >> >> Congratulations Deems. How sweet it is! >> >> David Maib >> 40559 >> >> "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you >> didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail >> away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. >> Dream. Discover." >> -Mark Twain >> >> >> On Jun 4, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Deems Davis wrote: >> >> > >> >> Today I logged the last/final flight (1.3 hrs) of 40 Phase1 hours logged >> on 24 flights. I never thought I'd get my fill of flying, but this came >> close. Changed oil & filter today to 15W-50. Cabin cover arrived from >> Abby. Fabbed some gust locks. No flying tomorrow. Sat Judy and >> * >> >> >> * > > > ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:18 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Phase 1 complete - The leash is broken! Grumpy, we're looking for a midway stop heading back from Long Island NY to Branson in Mid Aug after OSH, TN might just be the ticket! Are you close to Nashville? Deems Miller John wrote: > > And you were ready to throw in the towel not too long ago! > > Congrats, Deems. > > If you get by TN way, we've got a room ready! > > grumpy > N184JM > > do not archive > > On Jun 4, 2009, at 7:12 PM, Deems Davis wrote: > >> >> Today I logged the last/final flight (1.3 hrs) of 40 Phase1 hours >> logged on 24 flights. I never thought I'd get my fill of flying, but >> this came close. Changed oil & filter today to 15W-50. Cabin cover >> arrived from Abby. Fabbed some gust locks. No flying tomorrow. Sat >> Judy and I leave for our 1st trip. Woohoo ! >> >> Deems - living the dream - Davis 8-) >> N519PJ >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 09:50:01 PM PST US From: "Chris and Susie" Subject: RV10-List: stec 55x auto pilot Hi guys I have the chance to get one of these auto pilots very cheap however I cant get on to Stec (they do not answer there phone ) to see if they will work on a RV10. I have some numbers and was wondering if somone on the list new anything about these auto pilots. There is a picture at the bottom of the numbers. regards chris VH-ICY Computer/Radio 01192-0-53T 0628-10200 01192-0-53T 0703-10976 Roll Servos 0106-7-R2 0731-23347 0106-7-R2 0733-23401 Pitch Servos 0108-10-P2 0529-14952 0108-9-P2 0611-15789 Turn Coordinator 1394T100-14RB K06-10652 1394T100-14RB ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 10:22:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: stec 55x auto pilot From: Kelly McMullen IMHO, STEC made a very good product, but the company and customer service have gone down the tubes. They absolutely refuse to allow transfer of their STC between certified planes, for any amount of money. Apparently the management changed when Cobham came in, and it isn't a good picture. Given that even if the autopilot were given to you, you would have to fab all the interconnects, and any repair or parts would cost you certified prices, why bother, compared to Trutrack, Dynon and others available in the OBAM experimental market. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Chris and Susie wrote: > Hi guys > I have the chance to get one of these auto pilots very cheap > however I cant get on to Stec (they do not answer there phone ) to see if > they will work on a RV10. I have some numbers and was wondering if somone on > the list new anything about these auto pilots. There is a picture at the > bottom of the numbers. > > regards chris > > VH-ICY > > > *Computer/Radio* > > 01192-0-53T > > 0628-10200 > > 01192-0-53T > > 0703-10976 > > > *Roll Servos* > > 0106-7-R2 > > 0731-23347 > > 0106-7-R2 > > 0733-23401 > > > *Pitch Servos* > > 0108-10-P2 > > 0529-14952 > > 0108-9-P2 > > 0611-15789 > > * * > > *Turn Coordinator * > > 1394T100-14RB > > K06-10652 > > 1394T100-14RB > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.