---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/11/09: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:25 AM - Re: Computer fan under glare shield (Tim Olson) 2. 07:28 AM - Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment (johngoodman) 3. 08:26 AM - Re: Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment (linn) 4. 08:55 AM - Re: Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment (Condrey, Bob (US SSA)) 5. 09:13 AM - Re: Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment (Tim Olson) 6. 09:13 AM - Re: First Flight N46WD (Tim Olson) 7. 09:25 AM - Re: First Flight N46WD (Deems Davis) 8. 09:31 AM - Re: First Flight N46WD (Condrey, Bob (US SSA)) 9. 08:14 PM - Re: First Flight (nukeflyboy) 10. 09:13 PM - Re: Re: First Flight (Don McDonald) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:37 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Computer fan under glare shield I've got some higher speed 25CFM fans and they seem to do a good job. I would think that they'd be a bare minimum though. I've tried quite a bit lower volume fans and they didn't work well. So I'd stick with something in the 25-125CFM range if you can. I actually have my glareshield fans blowing out anytime the master is on, and it's helped me remember to turn the master off a few times. It's nice because I get the plane all tucked away in the hangar and I can hear if I left the switch on or not. No fan noise, no dead battery. Oh, and newegg.com rocks. I buy many thousands of bucks worth of stuff there. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD Robin Marks wrote: > Albert, > > As a data point I purchased an 2 ultra high velocity > computer fans to act as you describes, heat removal & defrost. They had > something like 3 times the airflow as normal computer fans and are a bit > louder. After installing them I am surprised how much less air flow is > blown through then than I expected. I can only imagine if I had used a > standard fan the disappointment I would feel. I have yet to need the > fans for defrost but I am glad I upgraded. > > www.NewEgg.com rates them by CFM & dBA > > > > Average Case Fan ~ 20-40 CFM $5.00 > > High Volume Fans ~70-90 CFM $8.00 > > Ultra High Volume > > ~100-120 CFM $10-20.00 > > WOW > > 175 CFM $35.00 > > Ridicules > > 217 CFM $42.00 (note 120 MM may be too big) > > > > Dont be surprised if you own 35 CFM fan. > > > > Robin > > Do Not Archive > > > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Albert Gardner > *Sent:* Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:11 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Computer fan under glare shield > > > > After the AZ sun heats up my glare shield, my Dynon EFIS sometimes > indicates its overheated. > > I bought a thin computer fan to install figuring it would be both a > defrost fan as well as remove > > heat from under the shield. Its 12 V and has 3 wires attached: red, > black, and yellow. Are any > > of you computer knowledgeable enough to tell me which wire does what. I > want to hook it up to > > an on-off switch to 12 V. > > Albert Gardner > > N991RV > > Yuma, AZ > > > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 06/07/09 17:53:00 > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:33 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment From: "johngoodman" I'm leaving mine in; it prevents "submarining." I'm not planning on a crash but it would be nice for the rear seat occupants to actually be sitting in their seats when it comes to a stop. John -------- #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started. N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247680#247680 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:18 AM PST US From: linn Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment Submarining isn't usually a problem in sudden deceleration. The torso moves forward keeping the lap belt across the hips until the shoulder strap gets really tight. A 5-point harness helps if you're doing wild aerobatics or tumbling down the track in your racecar. My Pitts has a 5-point harness, but I've never felt pressure in my crotch from it. Linn johngoodman wrote: > > I'm leaving mine in; it prevents "submarining." I'm not planning on a crash but it would be nice for the rear seat occupants to actually be sitting in their seats when it comes to a stop. > John > > -------- > #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started. > N711JG reserved > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247680#247680 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:07 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" I've always found it interesting that there are provisions for a 5 point for the rear seats but not the front... I removed them. Bob N442PM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:23 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment Submarining isn't usually a problem in sudden deceleration. The torso moves forward keeping the lap belt across the hips until the shoulder strap gets really tight. A 5-point harness helps if you're doing wild aerobatics or tumbling down the track in your racecar. My Pitts has a 5-point harness, but I've never felt pressure in my crotch from it. Linn johngoodman wrote: > > I'm leaving mine in; it prevents "submarining." I'm not planning on a crash but it would be nice for the rear seat occupants to actually be sitting in their seats when it comes to a stop. > John > > -------- > #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started. > N711JG reserved > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247680#247680 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:31 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment Being a guy and all, I think I'm more afraid of what would happen if I actually NEEDED the crotch strap in a crash. If it seriously maimed me there, I think maybe I would be wishing I hadn't been wearing any belt... :) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive linn wrote: > > Submarining isn't usually a problem in sudden deceleration. The torso > moves forward keeping the lap belt across the hips until the shoulder > strap gets really tight. A 5-point harness helps if you're doing wild > aerobatics or tumbling down the track in your racecar. > My Pitts has a 5-point harness, but I've never felt pressure in my > crotch from it. > Linn > > johngoodman wrote: >> >> >> I'm leaving mine in; it prevents "submarining." I'm not planning on a >> crash but it would be nice for the rear seat occupants to actually be >> sitting in their seats when it comes to a stop. >> John >> >> -------- >> #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started. >> N711JG reserved >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247680#247680 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:31 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Flight N46WD I'm not sure that anyone but Van's gets a good amount of info on who's flying. I have 106 shown on the builders list, but I know there's significantly more. I try to keep them listed as flying once I hear they are though. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Don McDonald wrote: > Way to go Frank. I'm going out again tomorrow to try and get a couple > of hours in. Is anybody keeping track of how many 10's are flying now? > Don McDonald > > --- On *Wed, 6/10/09, Frank Dombroski //* wrote: > > > From: Frank Dombroski > Subject: RV10-List: First Flight N46WD > To: RV10-List@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 5:53 PM > > Another first flight they seem to be accelerating as well as the > -10s do. First day accounted for 6 hours of aviating joy. Plane > trims to a balanced hands off state. I still have a few > EFIS/Avionics settings to wrestle with, and some radio noise to > quiet down, but the bird flys like a dream. > > > > Cheers, > > Frank Dombroski > > N46WD - Aviating > > N40 > > * > > get=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com > blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:24 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Flight N46WD Don, Get a hold of John Cox (John where are you?), he keeps a database of flying RV10's , the last I heard he had nearly 220 aircraft logged. Deems Tim Olson wrote: > > I'm not sure that anyone but Van's gets a good amount of info > on who's flying. I have 106 shown on the builders list, > but I know there's significantly more. I try to keep > them listed as flying once I hear they are though. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > Don McDonald wrote: >> Way to go Frank. I'm going out again tomorrow to try and get a >> couple of hours in. Is anybody keeping track of how many 10's are >> flying now? >> Don McDonald >> >> --- On *Wed, 6/10/09, Frank Dombroski //* wrote: >> >> >> From: Frank Dombroski >> Subject: RV10-List: First Flight N46WD >> To: RV10-List@matronics.com >> Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 5:53 PM >> >> Another first flight they seem to be accelerating as well as the >> -10s do. First day accounted for 6 hours of aviating joy. Plane >> trims to a balanced hands off state. I still have a few >> EFIS/Avionics settings to wrestle with, and some radio noise to >> quiet down, but the bird flys like a dream. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Frank Dombroski >> >> N46WD - Aviating >> >> N40 >> >> * >> >> get=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com >> blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> >> * >> >> >> * > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:31:35 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: First Flight N46WD From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" And Van's only updates their numbers when a builder explicitly notifies them. Back when there weren't many -10s flying and it was a little easier to track I recall their number being about 10-15% low. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Flight N46WD I'm not sure that anyone but Van's gets a good amount of info on who's flying. I have 106 shown on the builders list, but I know there's significantly more. I try to keep them listed as flying once I hear they are though. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Don McDonald wrote: > Way to go Frank. I'm going out again tomorrow to try and get a couple > of hours in. Is anybody keeping track of how many 10's are flying now? > Don McDonald > > --- On *Wed, 6/10/09, Frank Dombroski //* wrote: > > > From: Frank Dombroski > Subject: RV10-List: First Flight N46WD > To: RV10-List@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 5:53 PM > > Another first flight... they seem to be accelerating as well as the > -10's do. First day accounted for 6 hours of aviating joy. Plane > trims to a balanced hands off state. I still have a few > EFIS/Avionics settings to wrestle with, and some radio noise to > quiet down, but the bird flys like a dream. > > > > Cheers, > > Frank Dombroski > > N46WD - Aviating > > N40 > > * > > get=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com > blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:42 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight From: "nukeflyboy" Congratulations Don! That is super news. Do you think you will be able to get it to OSH? Wendy and I will be heading to West Yellowstone and Johnson Creek ID in a couple weeks in the 6 and then we'll be at OSH. Hope to see you there. do not archive -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247768#247768 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:14 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: First Flight I'm trying... flew a couple of hours today.- Kim has a class reunion a mo nth out, so if I can get the hours flown off, that would be a good tuneup. - Mark Carey and Jim Rore are both flying their 10's from here.... and I think they wouldn't mind if we joined them.- Kim's son Max graduates from Army basic training right smack in the middle of Osh... so we're a little undecided.- Hope to see you there.-- Don --- On Thu, 6/11/09, nukeflyboy wrote: From: nukeflyboy Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight Congratulations Don!- That is super news.- Do you think you will be abl e to get it to OSH?- Wendy and I will be heading to West Yellowstone and Johnson Creek ID in a couple weeks in the 6 and then we'll be at OSH.- Ho pe to see you there. do not archive -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247768#247768 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.