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1. 06:05 AM - Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment (johngoodman)
2. 06:22 AM - Re: Door Fit (johngoodman)
3. 07:46 AM - closing the door (Chris Hukill)
4. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: Door Fit (John Gonzalez)
5. 09:54 AM - Aft Spar drill to 3/8" - and flap bushings - helpful hi (AirMike)
6. 11:35 AM - Re: Re: Door Fit (Les Kearney)
7. 11:50 AM - Re: Door Fit (johngoodman)
8. 12:29 PM - Re: Re: Door Fit (Les Kearney)
9. 01:10 PM - Re: Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment (Robin Marks)
10. 04:14 PM - takeoff performance at 5000 MSL (David McNeill)
11. 05:21 PM - Re: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL (Kelly McMullen)
12. 06:05 PM - RV10 Visit O.C (partner14)
13. 06:10 PM - F-1072 Fwd Fuse Brake Line Exit Hole (Patrick Pulis)
14. 06:22 PM - Re: RV10 Visit O.C (David McNeill)
15. 06:43 PM - Re: Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment (Tim Olson)
16. 06:53 PM - Re: F-1072 Fwd Fuse Brake Line Exit Hole (Michael Kraus)
17. 08:45 PM - Re: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL (Rene)
18. 09:03 PM - Re: RV10 Visit O.C (Robin Marks)
19. 09:09 PM - Re: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL (David McNeill)
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| Subject: | Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment |
robin1(at)mrmoisture.com wrote:
> Since I made my own seat belts (for nearly nothing) I have been
> contemplating a carbon fiber (or wood) dowel encased in nylon webbing
> and sewn in forward of the Y to force the belts open wider than my
> headrest (and neck). I don't really see an issue with this except the
> thought of what looks like two Water Ski tow ropes hanging from my cabin
> top.
> Still under consideration...
> Robin
Robin,
How did you do the sewing? Do you have an industrial sewing machine?
John
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This is a good time to post a question on this subject. I got a little over-zealous
removing the return so the doors could fit. Dave Saylor suggested several
ways to rebuild it back up, but I thought I'd check on what others think is too
much gap first. Should it almost touch the door all the way around or do you
just need "some" return?
John
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| Subject: | closing the door |
I'm still messing with various door mods, one of which is a molded in
armrest that acts as a handle to assist in the closing process. The
handle is in the center of the door, which hopefully will apply even
pressure on the fore/aft seals. Enclosed is a picture of the handle, not
yet glassed onto the door.
Chris Hukill
Modifying the modified handles
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I made mine touch the door all the around=2C but you should do this with wh
at ever seal you are intending to use.
JOhn
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Door Fit
> From: johngoodman@earthlink.net
> Date: Sat=2C 13 Jun 2009 06:20:54 -0700
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
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ers think is too much gap first. Should it almost touch the door all the wa
y around or do you just need "some" return?
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| Subject: | Aft Spar drill to 3/8" - and flap bushings - helpful hi |
Drilling the aft spar is a bit of a challenge if you do not want to mess up the
hole having it out of round or too large as Vans admonishes you NOT to have happen.
To prevent this happening on these 2 important holes, drill the hole to
very slightly under size and purchase or borrow a 3/8" reamer and ream the hole
to its final diameter with cutting oil. You will get a nice smooth bore and
a desired tight fit on the #AN-6 bolts.
The flap bushings can be installed using a hand squeezer and brought to center
with a bolt and over sized washers.
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John
I thought I had done the same thing.
Have you got the doors hung yet? If not you may be surprised at how
much the door gap closes when the doors are in place.
Cheers
Les
Sent from my iPhone
On 13-Jun-09, at 7:20 AM, johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
>
> This is a good time to post a question on this subject. I got a
> little over-zealous removing the return so the doors could fit. Dave
> Saylor suggested several ways to rebuild it back up, but I thought
> I'd check on what others think is too much gap first. Should it
> almost touch the door all the way around or do you just need "some"
> return?
> John
>
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> John
> I thought I had done the same thing.
>
> Have you got the doors hung yet? If not you may be surprised at how
> much the door gap closes when the doors are in place.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
Les,
I'm putting the canopy back on for good in a few days, so I'll check again, but
in the initial fitting, there were some areas with larger gaps. I'll just mount
them and look. I know a few areas will need some build up. Would a 1/4" be
OK, or should I go for 1/8 to 1/16"?
Fun with fiberglass....
John
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John
I won't know for a few days either. I am still adjusting for fit with
door seal.
I would like to get the door closed just touching the door seal with
just a little compression.
Cheers
Les
Sent from my iPhone
On 13-Jun-09, at 12:49 PM, johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> >
>
>
>> John
>> I thought I had done the same thing.
>>
>> Have you got the doors hung yet? If not you may be surprised at how
>> much the door gap closes when the doors are in place.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Les
>
>
> Les,
> I'm putting the canopy back on for good in a few days, so I'll check
> again, but in the initial fitting, there were some areas with larger
> gaps. I'll just mount them and look. I know a few areas will need
> some build up. Would a 1/4" be OK, or should I go for 1/8 to 1/16"?
>
> Fun with fiberglass....
> John
>
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| Subject: | Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment |
John,
I have access to an industrial sewing machine but I initially hand
sewed them to tack in place. The webbing is rather course and could be
sewn easily. Once tacked in place I dry fit them in the plane and then
used a regular sewing machine. it was a snap. If you want a pro to sew
it try tacking like I did and take it to an upholstery shop to have them
do it while you wait for $20.00.
For the DIYer's out there one can get a 2" or 3" wide Rotary Cam
Release 4 or 5 point seatbelt for under $40.00 delivered from ebay. I
think I paid under $30.00 delivered for each of mine. Look up "Cam Seat
belt" on ebay. Please note you can make a perfectly good and safe
seatbelt set but these are obviously not the quality of a $400-600
Hooker Harness belt.
Other observations. I suggest you but one or two sets to start
rather than all 4 sets before one is sure you want to go that way.
Additionally there are other belt companies out there that offer "Y"
sewn belts already:
http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/wescoperformance_2053_292106
http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/racingbelts.html#cam-lock-harne
ss
Good luck,
Robin
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| Subject: | takeoff performance at 5000 MSL |
I am planning to go to KPRC for breakfast; the aircraft will be at gross for
takeoff there. Anyone have distances for 2700# @ 5000 MSL? Engine is IO540
and CS prop. Seems like it should not be a problem but at least a pause for
thought. On second thought I took a load of 4 and the tool box to KSEZ and
never gave it a second thought; no problem.
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| Subject: | Re: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL |
Take note of performance to add to database, please.
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 4:00 PM, David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
> I am planning to go to KPRC for breakfast; the aircraft will be at gross
> for takeoff there. Anyone have distances for 2700# @ 5000 MSL? Engine is
> IO540 and CS prop. Seems like it should not be a problem but at least a
> pause for thought. On second thought I took a load of 4 and the tool box to
> KSEZ and never gave it a second thought; no problem.
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Anybody out there located at Fullerton, Orange County, or Chino. This would be
our maiden voyage out of Lincoln CA., as soon as I fly the hours off this bird.
Just wondering the ins and out of each airport, if there's either hanger space
(for a couple of nights) or tie downs available.
Thanks, Don McDonald
#40636 - FLYING
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| Subject: | F-1072 Fwd Fuse Brake Line Exit Hole |
I've enlarged the holes for the brake line exit points near the gear leg fa
irings to 5/8" diameter as per the instructions in Sections 28 (Fwd Fuse)
-and-Sections 36 (Brake Lines), however the AN837-4D 45 degree elbow pa
sses straight through the hole!=0A=0AIs this-an error in the plans or my
interpretation, have I missed something here?=0A=0AI guess the way out of t
his is to make up some shims, any thoughts or suggestions please.=0A=0ARega
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Been there once in my C177RG; landed to the West. Landed on 24. watch the
approach; has to be steep and on speed. FBO very helpful on SW end of field.
Took the kids to Disneyland.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of partner14
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 6:04 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Visit O.C
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Anybody out there located at Fullerton, Orange County, or Chino. This would
be our maiden voyage out of Lincoln CA., as soon as I fly the hours off this
bird. Just wondering the ins and out of each airport, if there's either
hanger space (for a couple of nights) or tie downs available.
Thanks, Don McDonald
#40636 - FLYING
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| Subject: | Re: rear seat crotch strap attachment |
Now that's a true D-I-Y guy! I'm impressed, Robin...good job!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Robin Marks wrote:
> John,
>
> I have access to an industrial sewing machine but I initially hand
> sewed them to tack in place. The webbing is rather course and could be
> sewn easily. Once tacked in place I dry fit them in the plane and then
> used a regular sewing machine. it was a snap. If you want a pro to sew
> it try tacking like I did and take it to an upholstery shop to have them
> do it while you wait for $20.00.
>
> For the DIYers out there one can get a 2 or 3 wide Rotary Cam
> Release 4 or 5 point seatbelt for under $40.00 delivered from ebay. I
> think I paid under $30.00 delivered for each of mine. Look up Cam Seat
> belt on ebay. Please note you can make a perfectly good and safe
> seatbelt set but these are obviously not the quality of a $400-600
> Hooker Harness belt.
>
> Other observations. I suggest you but one or two sets to start
> rather than all 4 sets before one is sure you want to go that way.
> Additionally there are other belt companies out there that offer Y
> sewn belts already:
>
> http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/wescoperformance_2053_292106
>
> http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/racingbelts.html#cam-lock-harness
>
>
>
>
>
> Good luck,
>
> Robin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://209.200.64.237/images/auto/7505-2.jpghttp://209.200.64.237/images/auto/7477.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: F-1072 Fwd Fuse Brake Line Exit Hole |
The skin hole is oversized, and the hole in the landing gear weldment
should be the proper size and the fitting is mounted on the weldment
and the hole in the skin is a clearance hole. If you drilled out the
weldment to 5/8", then you'll need to make a plate with a smaller hole
and patch it in.
-Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 13, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
> I've enlarged the holes for the brake line exit points near the gear
> leg fairings to 5/8" diameter as per the instructions in Sections 28
> (Fwd Fuse) and Sections 36 (Brake Lines), however the AN837-4D 45
> degree elbow passes straight through the hole!
>
> Is this an error in the plans or my interpretation, have I missed
> something here?
>
> I guess the way out of this is to make up some shims, any thoughts
> or suggestions please.
>
> Regards
>
> Patrick Pulis
> #40299
> Adelaide, South Australia
>
>
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| Subject: | takeoff performance at 5000 MSL |
I operate out of KOGD, ~4500. I have not done any measurements at gross
weight and density altitude. But two weekends ago it was close to 80
and I
did 8 young eagle flights, several at gross weight ~2650 to 2700. Was
off
the ground between 2000 and 2500 feet without trying...hope that helps.
IO540, 260 HP, 2700 RPM...
Rene'
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: RV10-List: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL
I am planning to go to KPRC for breakfast; the aircraft will be at gross
for
takeoff there. Anyone have distances for 2700# @ 5000 MSL? Engine is
IO540
and CS prop. Seems like it should not be a problem but at least a pause
for
thought. On second thought I took a load of 4 and the tool box to KSEZ
and
never gave it a second thought; no problem.
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Don,
I have flown into both several/many times. Chino is wide open
while Fullerton is short-ish with radio towers nearby. Keep your eyes
pealed for them and their support cables. Also Fullerton is not that
easy to pick out when LA skies prevail (AKA smog). This is where EFIS
really helps as it can look like just another strip mall from a mile
out. If you want specifics of Chino contact the regular RV list there
are MANY RV's flying out of Chino.
I am occasionally based at WHP. You are welcome to use my hangar
when I am not there. Contact me off list if needed.
Robin@PaintTheWeb(dot)com
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of partner14
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 6:04 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Visit O.C
<building_partner@yahoo.com>
Anybody out there located at Fullerton, Orange County, or Chino. This
would be our maiden voyage out of Lincoln CA., as soon as I fly the
hours off this bird. Just wondering the ins and out of each airport, if
there's either hanger space (for a couple of nights) or tie downs
available.
Thanks, Don McDonald
#40636 - FLYING
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40636
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| Subject: | takeoff performance at 5000 MSL |
Thanks.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL
I operate out of KOGD, ~4500. I have not done any measurements at gross
weight and density altitude. But two weekends ago it was close to 80 and I
did 8 young eagle flights, several at gross weight ~2650 to 2700. Was off
the ground between 2000 and 2500 feet without trying...hope that helps.
IO540, 260 HP, 2700 RPM...
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: RV10-List: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL
I am planning to go to KPRC for breakfast; the aircraft will be at gross for
takeoff there. Anyone have distances for 2700# @ 5000 MSL? Engine is IO540
and CS prop. Seems like it should not be a problem but at least a pause for
thought. On second thought I took a load of 4 and the tool box to KSEZ and
never gave it a second thought; no problem.
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