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1. 06:33 AM - Home paint job (Lew Gallagher)
2. 06:36 AM - Re: Home paint job (Lew Gallagher)
3. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: Home paint job (Les Kearney)
4. 08:39 AM - Re: Home paint job (John Gonzalez)
5. 08:49 AM - Re: Home paint job (AirMike)
6. 10:40 AM - data point (David McNeill)
7. 10:43 AM - Re: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL (Bill DeRouchey)
8. 12:11 PM - Re: Home paint job (Lew Gallagher)
9. 02:23 PM - Re: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL (Bob and Karen Brown)
10. 03:54 PM - Re: Re: Home paint job (Patrick Pulis)
11. 07:20 PM - XM weather antenna location (n277dl)
12. 07:39 PM - Re: XM weather antenna location (David Maib)
13. 08:02 PM - Visiting Dallas/Fortworth area (aerosport1)
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Hey Guys,
All the first flights are inspiring for sure -- congrats to all and thanks for
the motivation!
Here are a couple of pictures of this weekend's work on the final stripes -- painting
in my shop in the backyard. We brought it over from his garage to my house
using a skid truck with no incidents. I don't have web site links, so if
anyone is interested in more detailed preparation pictures, I'll be glad to send
them along. The wheel pants are just set on the ground to see how they will
match up.
For a first, I think this is turning out OK and the owner is pleased -- let me
know what you think.
I glassed in the top seatbelt anchor screws (with the trick learned here of cutting
a slot and embedding a pop rivet stud in it to keep it from turning), molded
the upper part of the main gear pants to be one unit, and glassed in a cloth
strip around all the windows overlapping plexi and canopy before smoothing
to contour -- so far no cracks whatsoever.
Some masking tape apparently loosened up around the inside of the pilot's window
when painting the parts Abby recommends inside, and I got overspray on the plexi.
I just used what I have for buffing cars (Meguiare's buffing, then fine
polishing, then swirl remover compound) and it looks good to go.
Wing tips are the last of the paint. We haven't decided yet about horizontal stab
tips yet.
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Painting when it's 60+ degrees!
Piddling with wiring and avionics.
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| Subject: | Re: Home paint job |
Oops, wrong last picture.
- Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Painting when it's 60+ degrees!
Piddling with wiring and avionics.
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| Subject: | Re: Home paint job |
Lew
I really like your paint scheme. That red accent line is very sharp indeed!
Cheers
Les
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lew Gallagher
Sent: June-14-09 7:37 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Home paint job
Oops, wrong last picture.
- Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Painting when it's 60+ degrees!
Piddling with wiring and avionics.
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How do we know the guy undeneath the protective clothing is really Lew.
Really=2C=2C=2C=2C=2C It looks great=2C great job.
JOhn
> Subject: RV10-List: Home paint job
> From: lewgall@charter.net
> Date: Sun=2C 14 Jun 2009 06:32:23 -0700
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Hey Guys=2C
>
> All the first flights are inspiring for sure -- congrats to all and thank
s for the motivation!
>
> Here are a couple of pictures of this weekend's work on the final stripes
-- painting in my shop in the backyard. We brought it over from his garag
e to my house using a skid truck with no incidents. I don't have web site
links=2C so if anyone is interested in more detailed preparation pictures
=2C I'll be glad to send them along. The wheel pants are just set on the g
round to see how they will match up.
>
> For a first=2C I think this is turning out OK and the owner is pleased --
let me know what you think.
>
> I glassed in the top seatbelt anchor screws (with the trick learned here
of cutting a slot and embedding a pop rivet stud in it to keep it from turn
ing)=2C molded the upper part of the main gear pants to be one unit=2C and
glassed in a cloth strip around all the windows overlapping plexi and canop
y before smoothing to contour -- so far no cracks whatsoever.
>
> Some masking tape apparently loosened up around the inside of the pilot's
window when painting the parts Abby recommends inside=2C and I got overspr
ay on the plexi. I just used what I have for buffing cars (Meguiare's buff
ing=2C then fine polishing=2C then swirl remover compound) and it looks goo
d to go.
>
> Wing tips are the last of the paint. We haven't decided yet about horizo
ntal stab tips yet.
>
> Later=2C - Lew
>
> --------
> non-pilot
> crazy about building
> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> Painting when it's 60+ degrees!
> Piddling with wiring and avionics.
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| Subject: | Re: Home paint job |
Very nice paint job and color combo.
What system are u using?
PS: Can you get me the phone number of the hot babe in the white dress
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OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - FWF end game
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Our takeoff distance for KPRC (5024 MSL) was about 1500 ft per the tower at
65F and 2750#. MAP was 24" and 2700RPM. FF was 18gph and was slightly
leaned.
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| Subject: | takeoff performance at 5000 MSL |
Dave-
I am based at KPRC. My last Young Eagles flight was three kids from the sam
e family that weighted in at 635 pounds. (I claim this as a YE record). Fue
l was at 40 gallons. Gross weight was 2677 pounds. No worries. Climbed at 8
00fps.=C2-
=C2-
Last week I rode with a feller in a Cessna 182 that had full fuel and was v
ery lightly loaded. Now that was a worry. Climbed at 400fps.
=C2-
YougottalovethatRV10,
Bill DeRouchey,N939SB
=C2-
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Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL
I operate out of KOGD, ~4500.=C2- I have not done any measurements at gro
ss weight and density altitude.=C2- But two weekends ago it was close to
80 and I did 8 young eagle flights, several at gross weight ~2650 to 2700.
=C2- Was off the ground between 2000 and 2500 feet without trying
..hope that helps.
=C2-
IO540, 260 HP, 2700 RPM.
=C2-
Rene'
801-721-6080
=C2-
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I=C2-am planning to go to KPRC for breakfast; the aircraft will be at=C2
-gross for takeoff there. Anyone have distances for 2700# @ 5000 MSL? Eng
ine is IO540 and CS prop. Seems like it should not be a problem but at leas
t a pause for thought. On second thought I took a load of 4 and the tool bo
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| Subject: | Re: Home paint job |
Hey Mike,
HAH! You got the "hot" part right, I have to turn the a/c off when I turn the
exhaust fan on.
OK, here goes on the system for painting, (fire away!):
1) Scuff all aluminum with scotchbright or fine paper on orbital sander, wipe down
with lacquer thinner (I haven't used acetone for anything but melting plastic
since I was a kid).
2) Fill chosen rivet lines, dings etc. with either Evercoat Rage Extreme body filler,
or West System 105 epoxy resin and 206 slow hardener & micro beads. Sand
flush. Wipe down with laq thinner.
3)Sand all fiberglass to get mold sheen, etc. off. Blow off and wipe down with
laq thinner.
4) Fill all fiberglass with slurry of West System epoxy and beads, sand flush,
wipe down with laq thinner.
5) Prime all aluminum to be painted with Dupont Nason 491-17 etch primer with 441-43
activator reducer added.
6) Come back over etch primer within 20 minutes with Dupont Nason 421-19 2K urethane
primer with 483-87 harkener added, as well as covering all fiberglass with
the 2K at this time.
7) Sand most of the 2K off to smooth out high/low spots, pin holes, etc., wipe
down with laq thinner, and reprime with 2K. Sand again, then hand sand with 320
grit wet/dry paper. Wipe down with laq thinner.
8 Tape off everything that doesn't get painted. Paint white with Dupont Centari
Acrylic enamel with 8022S reducer and Mar-Hyde #2612 Wet Look hardener added.
9) Tape off stripe lines. Scuff up white paint to improve adhesion where color
will go, tape off all but where blue goes, wipe down with laq thinner, paint
blue stripes (same Dupont Centari acrylic enamel - metalic added.
10) Tape off all but red stripes, scuff, wipe down, paint red stripes.
11) Carefully unwrap, pulling final tape next to color away from color so it won't
accidentally lift color stripes on edges.
12) Clean up any overspray. Sit back and grin.
As you can tell this is VERY labor intensive. For those paying painters, it's
probably worth whatever you're paying!
Later, - Lew
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crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
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Piddling with wiring and avionics.
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| Subject: | takeoff performance at 5000 MSL |
Full fuel in my -182 was 92 gallons. At full gross at 6000=99DA
it climbed better than 400 fpmhmmm maybe he=99d lost a
cylinder
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
DeRouchey
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL
Dave-
I am based at KPRC. My last Young Eagles flight was three kids from the
same family that weighted in at 635 pounds. (I claim this as a YE
record). Fuel was at 40 gallons. Gross weight was 2677 pounds. No
worries. Climbed at 800fps.
Last week I rode with a feller in a Cessna 182 that had full fuel and
was very lightly loaded. Now that was a worry. Climbed at 400fps.
YougottalovethatRV10,
Bill DeRouchey,N939SB
--- On Sat, 6/13/09, David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
From: David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL
Thanks.
_____
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL
I operate out of KOGD, ~4500. I have not done any measurements at gross
weight and density altitude. But two weekends ago it was close to 80
and I did 8 young eagle flights, several at gross weight ~2650 to 2700.
Was off the ground between 2000 and 2500 feet without
trying..hope that helps.
IO540, 260 HP, 2700 RPM.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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Subject: RV10-List: takeoff performance at 5000 MSL
I am planning to go to KPRC for breakfast; the aircraft will be at gross
for takeoff there. Anyone have distances for 2700# @ 5000 MSL? Engine is
IO540 and CS prop. Seems like it should not be a problem but at least a
pause for thought. On second thought I took a load of 4 and the tool box
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| Subject: | Re: Home paint job |
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| Subject: | XM weather antenna location |
Group...
working on wiring and placing everything on the sub-panels for the AFS systems.
Question... where to mount the XM weather antenna. On the -7A I mounted the 430
antenna under the cowling and have had zero problems with reception. However,
after following the recent discussion here , I do plan to mount the 430 gps
antenna outside on top of the cabin because of WAAS. I have xm on the 396 but
I've never really mounted the antenna.... just left it on the glareshield.
So... where have you been successful in mounting both the xm antenna and also the
gps antenna that can be purchased from AFS (or even more important, not been
successful :) )
Thanks,
Doug
--------
Doug
"Fools" are always more creative than process people and will always
find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.
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| Subject: | Re: XM weather antenna location |
I mounted my WSI/Sirius antenna on the glareshield and it has worked
quite well. I don't know for sure, but I think others have had good
luck with XM antennas on the glareshield as well.
David Maib
40559
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines.
Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails.
Explore. Dream. Discover."
-Mark Twain
On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:19 PM, n277dl wrote:
Group...
working on wiring and placing everything on the sub-panels for
the AFS systems.
Question... where to mount the XM weather antenna. On the -7A I
mounted the 430 antenna under the cowling and have had zero problems
with reception. However, after following the recent discussion
here , I do plan to mount the 430 gps antenna outside on top of the
cabin because of WAAS. I have xm on the 396 but I've never really
mounted the antenna.... just left it on the glareshield.
So... where have you been successful in mounting both the xm antenna
and also the gps antenna that can be purchased from AFS (or even more
important, not been successful :) )
Thanks,
Doug
--------
Doug
"Fools" are always more creative than process people and
will always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.
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| Subject: | Visiting Dallas/Fortworth area |
It is Sunday night here in Dallas and I just finished my RV-10 Training
with Alex and was wondering if any other completed or near completed
Rv-10 builders or flyers would like a visitor on Monday. I will be around the Dallas
Fort Worth area tomorrow looking for something to do since Alex and I finished
a day early.
Give me a call on my cell 614-519-4439
Geoff Combs
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Geoff Combs
RV-10 QB N829GW
Finishing
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