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1. 12:34 AM - Re: XM weather antenna location (AirMike)
2. 04:12 AM - Re: Re: XM weather antenna location (Jesse Saint)
3. 06:33 AM - Baffling - How did you guys go about the engine mount gap? (Michael Wellenzohn)
4. 07:08 AM - Re: Baffling - How did you guys go about the engine mount gap? (Tim Olson)
5. 07:08 AM - Re: Baffling - How did you guys go about the engine mount gap? (Rene Felker)
6. 07:11 AM - Re: Baffling - How did you guys go about the engine mount gap? (richard sipp)
7. 08:41 AM - Re: House for Rent in Oshkosh (John Cox)
8. 08:50 AM - Elevator outbard end rib (John Cumins)
9. 09:09 AM - Re: House for Rent in Oshkosh (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
10. 09:10 AM - Re: Elevator outbard end rib (Dj Merrill)
11. 09:39 AM - IO540 Operators Manual (gary)
12. 09:39 AM - Re: Elevator outbard end rib (Kent Ogden)
13. 09:50 AM - Re: IO540 Operators Manual (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
14. 10:10 AM - Re: IO540 Operators Manual (Rhonda Bewley)
15. 10:53 AM - Re: Elevator outbard end rib (Nathan Lewis)
16. 11:09 AM - Re: Elevator outbard end rib (Jack Phillips)
17. 11:09 AM - Re: House for Rent in Oshkosh (Jack Phillips)
18. 11:58 AM - Does airbox mount plate need a gasket? (jayb)
19. 02:18 PM - Re: IO540 Operators Manual (gary)
20. 03:39 PM - Re: IO540 Operators Manual (Fred Williams, M.D.)
21. 04:05 PM - hot starts (Miller John)
22. 04:08 PM - Re: House for Rent in Oshkosh (Brent P. Humphreys)
23. 04:22 PM - Re: IO540 Operators Manual (Don McDonald)
24. 04:38 PM - Re: Does airbox mount plate need a gasket? (Miller John)
25. 04:39 PM - Re: hot starts (Kelly McMullen)
26. 04:40 PM - Re: hot starts (Rob Kermanj)
27. 04:51 PM - Re: hot starts (David McNeill)
28. 05:03 PM - Re: hot starts (Rene Felker)
29. 05:03 PM - Re: IO540 Operators Manual (Tim Olson)
30. 05:08 PM - Re: hot starts (Tim Olson)
31. 06:13 PM - Re: hot starts (Kelly McMullen)
32. 06:13 PM - Re: hot starts (Dave Saylor)
33. 09:37 PM - Re: Baffling - How did you guys go about the engine mount gap? (aerosport1)
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| Subject: | Re: XM weather antenna location |
I saw several at OSH last year mounted on the dash panel.
Note - be sure to make it removable. Your subscription is tied to the exact antenna
that you register, so if you want to use it remote or at home make it removable.....
:D
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OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - FWF end game
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| Subject: | Re: XM weather antenna location |
Actually, the subscription is tied to the receiver, not the antenna.
In the case of the X96 by Garmin, the receiver is inside the puck with
the antenna. For the AFS, this is not the case.
Bracing for the flaming, the xm signal seems more robust than the GPS
signal from my experience working inside a hangar or office, so under
the cowl is probably not going to give you problems if you put other
backup antennae there as well.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 15, 2009, at 3:33 AM, "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote:
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> I saw several at OSH last year mounted on the dash panel.
> Note - be sure to make it removable. Your subscription is tied to
> the exact antenna that you register, so if you want to use it remote
> or at home make it removable..... :D
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> Q/B Kit - FWF end game
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| Subject: | Baffling - How did you guys go about the engine mount gap? |
Hi
I was wondering if you sealed the gap between engine mounts and baffling with
RTV. Is there another way since the gap seams quite big.
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling - How did you guys go about the engine mount |
gap?
I've seen some rivet-on domes that you can use to cover them too.
I used RTV though.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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| Subject: | Baffling - How did you guys go about the engine mount gap? |
That is what I did. Held up so far.....~90 hours.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:33 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Baffling - How did you guys go about the engine mount
gap?
Hi
I was wondering if you sealed the gap between engine mounts and baffling
with RTV. Is there another way since the gap seams quite big.
Michael
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#511
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling - How did you guys go about the engine mount gap? |
I cut some pieces of baffle material into small patch circles to cover that
area and pop riveted them on.
Dick Sipp
N110DV 40065
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 9:32 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Baffling - How did you guys go about the engine mount
gap?
> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
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> Hi
> I was wondering if you sealed the gap between engine mounts and baffling
> with RTV. Is there another way since the gap seams quite big.
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> Michael
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| Subject: | House for Rent in Oshkosh |
I too have a house that is five miles north of the North Forty at OSH.
It would be great if you could get a bunch of places that RV-10 builders
could opt for an upgrade while staying in Wisconsin. Mine has sleeping
for 8 with 3 of those taken and features an HD TV, wetbar and Air
Conditioning. Most campers may remember why that can be a deciding
point. The last two years lulling campers into thinking Wisconsin no
longer has microbursts, thundershowers, 98% humidity and 98 degrees of
heat. It is available Sunday through Sunday.
I am arriving Saturday and leaving Wednesday when Deems packs up for the
pilgrimage back to the Left Coast.
John
503-453-6016
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: RV10-List: House for Rent in Oshkosh
I have some friends in Oshkosh who have a house that they just decided
to try to rent for Airventure. If anybody is wanting to rent a place
and doesn't have one, let me know offline.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Elevator outbard end rib |
Well this old mine is stumped. On the Elevator outboard rib needs to be
dimples for room for the skin dimples. Well the last 4 furthest aft rivits
are not dimpleable. How does one get a dimple set in to the small space, or
did everyone just machine counter sink the holes.
This old brain needs to know.
Thanks
John
40864 Elvator in scuffing and primering mode.
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| Subject: | House for Rent in Oshkosh |
John,
You'll have to make sure you stop by the -10 camping area - we missed
you last year since you were relaxing in luxury...
Bob
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: House for Rent in Oshkosh
I too have a house that is five miles north of the North Forty at OSH.
It would be great if you could get a bunch of places that RV-10 builders
could opt for an upgrade while staying in Wisconsin. Mine has sleeping
for 8 with 3 of those taken and features an HD TV, wetbar and Air
Conditioning. Most campers may remember why that can be a deciding
point. The last two years lulling campers into thinking Wisconsin no
longer has microbursts, thundershowers, 98% humidity and 98 degrees of
heat. It is available Sunday through Sunday.
I am arriving Saturday and leaving Wednesday when Deems packs up for the
pilgrimage back to the Left Coast.
John
503-453-6016
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: RV10-List: House for Rent in Oshkosh
I have some friends in Oshkosh who have a house that they just decided
to try to rent for Airventure. If anybody is wanting to rent a place
and doesn't have one, let me know offline.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator outbard end rib |
On 06/15/2009 11:48 AM, John Cumins wrote:
> Well this old mine is stumped. On the Elevator outboard rib needs to be
> dimples for room for the skin dimples. Well the last 4 furthest aft rivits
> are not dimpleable. How does one get a dimple set in to the small space, or
> did everyone just machine counter sink the holes.
>
>
Would one of these:
<https://www.averytools.com/pc-857-72-pop-rivet-dimplers.aspx>
or one of these:
<https://www.averytools.com/pc-856-72-vise-grip-dimplers.aspx>
work?
-Dj
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| Subject: | IO540 Operators Manual |
Does anyone have or know where to get an electronic copy of the operators
manual?
Gary Specketer
N204GS Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator outbard end rib |
John,
I did it by making a dimple 'receiver' out of a piece of mild steel I had
laying around (1/4" or so thick). I drilled a hole with a #40 drill, then
countersunk it so it to form the female side of the dimple set. I clamped
it securely to my bench (hanging over the edge), then slipped the skin over
it for dimpling. I left the male side of the dimpler on the rod that came
with my C-arm dimpler, and rapped it with my rubber mallet. Worked just
fine, now I have the tool for other tight spots that I'm sure I'll see.
Kent Ogden
#40710 Wings on the way
>>> "John Cumins" <jcumins@jcis.net> 6/15/2009 11:48 AM >>>
Well this old mine is stumped. On the Elevator outboard rib needs to be
dimples for room for the skin dimples. Well the last 4 furthest aft
rivits
are not dimpleable. How does one get a dimple set in to the small space,
or
did everyone just machine counter sink the holes.
This old brain needs to know.
Thanks
John
40864 Elvator in scuffing and primering mode.
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| Subject: | IO540 Operators Manual |
Coming to you offline!
Bob
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 11:36 AM
Subject: RV10-List: IO540 Operators Manual
Does anyone have or know where to get an electronic copy of the
operators manual?
Gary Specketer
N204GS Flying
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| Subject: | IO540 Operators Manual |
Gary:
Is CD-ROM okay? If so, I'll send you one! :-)
Rhonda
________________________________
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 11:36 AM
Subject: RV10-List: IO540 Operators Manual
Does anyone have or know where to get an electronic copy of the
operators manual?
Gary Specketer
N204GS Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator outbard end rib |
Same here, except I didn't make mine - Cleaveland's tool kit came with:
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=DIE4263DF.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Kent Ogden <OgdenK@upstate.edu> wrote:
> I did it by making a dimple 'receiver' out of a piece of mild steel I had
> laying around (1/4" or so thick). I drilled a hole with a #40 drill, then
> countersunk it so it to form the female side of the dimple set. I clamped
> it securely to my bench (hanging over the edge), then slipped the skin over
> it for dimpling. I left the male side of the dimpler on the rod that came
> with my C-arm dimpler, and rapped it with my rubber mallet. Worked just
> fine, now I have the tool for other tight spots that I'm sure I'll see.
>
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| Subject: | Elevator outbard end rib |
I used a vise grip dimpler from Avery Tools. As I recall, I had to grind
down the end of it to fit close enough to the rib.
Jack Phillips
#40610
Wings
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cumins
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 11:48 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Elevator outbard end rib
Well this old mine is stumped. On the Elevator outboard rib needs to be
dimples for room for the skin dimples. Well the last 4 furthest aft rivits
are not dimpleable. How does one get a dimple set in to the small space, or
did everyone just machine counter sink the holes.
This old brain needs to know.
Thanks
John
40864 Elvator in scuffing and primering mode.
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| Subject: | House for Rent in Oshkosh |
Looks like I will be able to make Oshkosh after all, so I hope to come by
the RV-10 campsite and meet all the folks on the list. I'll be flying my
Pietenpol Air Camper (12 hours flying time from Virginia to Oshkosh). This
year is the 80th anniversary of the Pietenpol design and they are trying to
get as many Piets as possible to fly into OSH.
Jack Phillips
# 40610
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US
SSA)
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: House for Rent in Oshkosh
John,
You'll have to make sure you stop by the -10 camping area - we missed you
last year since you were relaxing in luxury.
Bob
Do Not Archive
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: House for Rent in Oshkosh
I too have a house that is five miles north of the North Forty at OSH. It
would be great if you could get a bunch of places that RV-10 builders could
opt for an upgrade while staying in Wisconsin. Mine has sleeping for 8 with
3 of those taken and features an HD TV, wetbar and Air Conditioning. Most
campers may remember why that can be a deciding point. The last two years
lulling campers into thinking Wisconsin no longer has microbursts,
thundershowers, 98% humidity and 98 degrees of heat. It is available Sunday
through Sunday.
I am arriving Saturday and leaving Wednesday when Deems packs up for the
pilgrimage back to the Left Coast.
John
503-453-6016
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: RV10-List: House for Rent in Oshkosh
I have some friends in Oshkosh who have a house that they just decided to
try to rent for Airventure. If anybody is wanting to rent a place and
doesn't have one, let me know offline.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Does airbox mount plate need a gasket? |
Is there any reason to use a gasket between the airbox mount plate and the fuel
injection servo body? My bolts are already safety wired and there's no apparent
gap. The plans don't show a gasket either....
Thanks,
Jay
Up to here ^ with engine baffling and wiring
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| Subject: | IO540 Operators Manual |
Thanks all, I got one, from Condry
Gary
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rhonda Bewley
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: IO540 Operators Manual
Gary:
Is CD-ROM okay? If so, I'll send you one! :-)
Rhonda
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 11:36 AM
Subject: RV10-List: IO540 Operators Manual
Does anyone have or know where to get an electronic copy of the operators
manual?
Gary Specketer
N204GS Flying
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: IO540 Operators Manual |
Bob ;
Would this be a good resource to have linked to Tim O's site?? Is it
too big?
Fred Williams
Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
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> *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2009 11:36 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
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For those flying with the IO-540 and who have a good deal of
experience with hot starts.
Hot starts are defined as 80+F on the ramp, and trying to start from
10 - 30 minutes after landing with engine at normal operating temps.
I've been using Tim's method, but not always successful in 1) getting
it running and then 2) keeping it running.
Yesterday, once I did get it running, it was surging badly and turning
the boost pump on seemed to settle it out.
If you have a tried and true technique on getting it started when it's
hot, please share.
Thanks - grumpy
N184JM
do not archive
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| Subject: | House for Rent in Oshkosh |
My EAA chapter is building a pietenpol right now in hopes of having it
ready for Oshkosh. See you there.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: House for Rent in Oshkosh
Looks like I will be able to make Oshkosh after all, so I hope to come
by the RV-10 campsite and meet all the folks on the list. I'll be
flying my Pietenpol Air Camper (12 hours flying time from Virginia to
Oshkosh). This year is the 80th anniversary of the Pietenpol design and
they are trying to get as many Piets as possible to fly into OSH.
Jack Phillips
# 40610
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Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: House for Rent in Oshkosh
John,
You'll have to make sure you stop by the -10 camping area - we missed
you last year since you were relaxing in luxury...
Bob
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: House for Rent in Oshkosh
I too have a house that is five miles north of the North Forty at OSH.
It would be great if you could get a bunch of places that RV-10 builders
could opt for an upgrade while staying in Wisconsin. Mine has sleeping
for 8 with 3 of those taken and features an HD TV, wetbar and Air
Conditioning. Most campers may remember why that can be a deciding
point. The last two years lulling campers into thinking Wisconsin no
longer has microbursts, thundershowers, 98% humidity and 98 degrees of
heat. It is available Sunday through Sunday.
I am arriving Saturday and leaving Wednesday when Deems packs up for the
pilgrimage back to the Left Coast.
John
503-453-6016
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: RV10-List: House for Rent in Oshkosh
I have some friends in Oshkosh who have a house that they just decided
to try to rent for Airventure. If anybody is wanting to rent a place
and doesn't have one, let me know offline.
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| Subject: | Re: IO540 Operators Manual |
Yeh, probably most of us would like to think we at least had access to a ma
nual.... does it have pictures?
Don
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Would this be a good resource to have linked to Tim O's site??- Is it too
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| Subject: | Re: Does airbox mount plate need a gasket? |
I don't use on on mine either. Make sure it fits flush all around,
though.
Grumpy
N184JM
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On Jun 15, 2009, at 1:56 PM, jayb wrote:
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> Is there any reason to use a gasket between the airbox mount plate
> and the fuel injection servo body? My bolts are already safety wired
> and there's no apparent gap. The plans don't show a gasket either....
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
> Up to here ^ with engine baffling and wiring
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I don't know about the IO540, but suspect it is like the IO360 I now
fly. Any start other than 1st start of the day or when plane has sat
long enough for engine to get back to cool to touch crankcase is a hot
start.
I just leave mixture at cutoff, use maybe 1/8 to 1/4" throttle, start
cranking and after 4 blades slowly add mixture until it catches. Works
99.94% of time.
Miller John wrote:
>
> For those flying with the IO-540 and who have a good deal of experience
> with hot starts.
>
> Hot starts are defined as 80+F on the ramp, and trying to start from 10
> - 30 minutes after landing with engine at normal operating temps.
>
> I've been using Tim's method, but not always successful in 1) getting it
> running and then 2) keeping it running.
>
> Yesterday, once I did get it running, it was surging badly and turning
> the boost pump on seemed to settle it out.
>
> If you have a tried and true technique on getting it started when it's
> hot, please share.
>
> Thanks - grumpy
> N184JM
>
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Here is what works for me..... 90% of the time:
First, make sure you either have an impulse coupler on the mag or a
"Shower of Sparks". Rebuilt engines, may not have a mag with an
impulse coupler.
With mixture full rich, run the fuel pump for couple of seconds.
Push the throttle forward passed 1/2 way point, mixture lean, then
crank. At this point, my engine coughs, runs a few blades and dies.
I repeat the same procedure again and it fires up.
If it does not cough on the first try, it is a sign for me that the
engine has cooled sufficient enough that I need to do the above
procedure with the mixture rich. In which case, the engine does not
cough but fires right up.
I am sure there are as many hot start procedures s there are IO-540.
Find what works for your engine.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Miller John<gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>
> For those flying with the IO-540 and who have a good deal of experience with
> hot starts.
>
> Hot starts are defined as 80+F on the ramp, and trying to start from 10 - 30
> minutes after landing with engine at normal operating temps.
>
> I've been using Tim's method, but not always successful in 1) getting it
> running and then 2) keeping it running.
>
> Yesterday, once I did get it running, it was surging badly and turning the
> boost pump on seemed to settle it out.
>
> If you have a tried and true technique on getting it started when it's hot,
> please share.
>
> Thanks - grumpy
> N184JM
>
> do not archive
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I use this procedure unless the CHTs are ambient.
This always works for me. For hot starts we pretend it's a turbine. Throttle
cracked, mixture idle cutoff. Run boost pump with mixture in cutoff for a
few seconds. Ignition on for the starting magneto and crank. Smoothly move
the mixture from idle cutoff to rich as the engine fires. Second magneto on
then boost pump to prevent any surging. Flooded start same procedure but
throttle full open. As it fires, second magneto on and retard throttle
quickly. Boost pump on to prevent surging.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: RV10-List: hot starts
For those flying with the IO-540 and who have a good deal of experience with
hot starts.
Hot starts are defined as 80+F on the ramp, and trying to start from 10 - 30
minutes after landing with engine at normal operating temps.
I've been using Tim's method, but not always successful in 1) getting it
running and then 2) keeping it running.
Yesterday, once I did get it running, it was surging badly and turning the
boost pump on seemed to settle it out.
If you have a tried and true technique on getting it started when it's hot,
please share.
Thanks - grumpy
N184JM
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I would not say that I have a lot of experience....but I will throw my 2
cents in.....
Two weekends ago I flew 8 young eagle flights in a row. Air temp, right at
80. So I had a lot of hot starts. Here is the method and it was not all
that great, but it did start the engine.
No Priming......
Throttle 1/2 inch
Mixture full lean
Crank the engine until it fires at least a little
Mixture rich
Advance throttle
If it is running.....big if....Advance the throttle to 1800 RPM or full if
it does not get to 1800 RPM
Run engine at high RPM for 20-30 seconds.
Turning on the pump did not help.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 4:59 PM
Subject: RV10-List: hot starts
For those flying with the IO-540 and who have a good deal of
experience with hot starts.
Hot starts are defined as 80+F on the ramp, and trying to start from
10 - 30 minutes after landing with engine at normal operating temps.
I've been using Tim's method, but not always successful in 1) getting
it running and then 2) keeping it running.
Yesterday, once I did get it running, it was surging badly and turning
the boost pump on seemed to settle it out.
If you have a tried and true technique on getting it started when it's
hot, please share.
Thanks - grumpy
N184JM
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| Subject: | Re: IO540 Operators Manual |
I'll do it if someone sends it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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Fred Williams, M.D. wrote:
> <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
>
> Bob ;
>
> Would this be a good resource to have linked to Tim O's site?? Is it
> too big?
> Fred Williams
>
> Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
>>
>> Coming to you offline!
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
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>>
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>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *gary
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2009 11:36 AM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: IO540 Operators Manual
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have or know where to get an electronic copy of the
>> operators manual?
>>
>>
>>
>> Gary Specketer
>>
>> N204GS Flying
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That's the method I use, basically. I'd say I've been 99.5%
successful with it. I can maybe remember 5 starts in 495
hours that didn't go too well...and that was usually either
because I didn't richen it quick enough to keep it running,
or I flooded it after not richening it enough, by using the
pump.
I think it would work good for most people, as it's a common
method used on many lycomings in many makes and models, but,
I can only say for sure that it works well for me with:
IO-540
Lightspeed on Right side (top plugs)
Mag with impulse coupling on Left side
Precision Fuel Injection System
I personally think the lightspeed is probably what makes
this plane start so well compared to any other plane I've
flown. I don't ususally get many blades passing by before
it's purring right along.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> I don't know about the IO540, but suspect it is like the IO360 I now
> fly. Any start other than 1st start of the day or when plane has sat
> long enough for engine to get back to cool to touch crankcase is a hot
> start.
> I just leave mixture at cutoff, use maybe 1/8 to 1/4" throttle, start
> cranking and after 4 blades slowly add mixture until it catches. Works
> 99.94% of time.
>
> Miller John wrote:
>>
>> For those flying with the IO-540 and who have a good deal of
>> experience with hot starts.
>>
>> Hot starts are defined as 80+F on the ramp, and trying to start from
>> 10 - 30 minutes after landing with engine at normal operating temps.
>>
>> I've been using Tim's method, but not always successful in 1) getting
>> it running and then 2) keeping it running.
>>
>> Yesterday, once I did get it running, it was surging badly and turning
>> the boost pump on seemed to settle it out.
>>
>> If you have a tried and true technique on getting it started when it's
>> hot, please share.
>>
>> Thanks - grumpy
>> N184JM
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
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You are so correct, it will depend on fuel injection and ignition
setup. Airflow Performance or others with purge valve will be
different.
Precision injection does not need any priming, although it may help to
bump the boost pump to have pressure a second or two quicker than
enginge pump will provide it. Shower of sparks or equivalent with turn
or push to start ignition switch should have non-retard mag grounded
when start is activated.
I don't find the boost makes any difference with my Mooney's IO-360
for anything but cold starts where plenty of priming is needed.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> That's the method I use, basically. I'd say I've been 99.5%
> successful with it. I can maybe remember 5 starts in 495
> hours that didn't go too well...and that was usually either
> because I didn't richen it quick enough to keep it running,
> or I flooded it after not richening it enough, by using the
> pump.
>
> I think it would work good for most people, as it's a common
> method used on many lycomings in many makes and models, but,
> I can only say for sure that it works well for me with:
>
> IO-540
> Lightspeed on Right side (top plugs)
> Mag with impulse coupling on Left side
> Precision Fuel Injection System
>
> I personally think the lightspeed is probably what makes
> this plane start so well compared to any other plane I've
> flown. I don't ususally get many blades passing by before
> it's purring right along.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't know about the IO540, but suspect it is like the IO360 I now fly.
>> Any start other than 1st start of the day or when plane has sat long enough
>> for engine to get back to cool to touch crankcase is a hot start.
>> I just leave mixture at cutoff, use maybe 1/8 to 1/4" throttle, start
>> cranking and after 4 blades slowly add mixture until it catches. Works
>> 99.94% of time.
>>
>> Miller John wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> For those flying with the IO-540 and who have a good deal of experience
>>> with hot starts.
>>>
>>> Hot starts are defined as 80+F on the ramp, and trying to start from 10 -
>>> 30 minutes after landing with engine at normal operating temps.
>>>
>>> I've been using Tim's method, but not always successful in 1) getting it
>>> running and then 2) keeping it running.
>>>
>>> Yesterday, once I did get it running, it was surging badly and turning
>>> the boost pump on seemed to settle it out.
>>>
>>> If you have a tried and true technique on getting it started when it's
>>> hot, please share.
>>>
>>> Thanks - grumpy
>>> N184JM
>>>
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>
>
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My technique is similar to these. I'm really happy with how well it works.
I've definitely been in hot-start hell with other planes.
I use this for hot or cold starts. It works fine for both. I usually have
to crank a wee bit longer when it's hot.
Throttle full
Mixture rich
Boost on until PSI peaks, usually about 5 seconds
Mixture lean
Throttle open about 1/4 inch
Left mag on (SlickStart w/ retard points)
crank, then mixture s-l-o-w-l-y to full rich when it fires
right mag on
Works like a charm.
Dave
just passed 400 hours
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> That's the method I use, basically. I'd say I've been 99.5e
> successful with it. I can maybe remember 5 starts in 495
> hours that didn't go too well...and that was usually either
> because I didn't richen it quick enough to keep it running,
> or I flooded it after not richening it enough, by using the
> pump.
>
> I think it would work good for most people, as it's a common
> method used on many lycomings in many makes and models, but,
> I can only say for sure that it works well for me with:
>
> IO-540
> Lightspeed on Right side (top plugs)
> Mag with impulse coupling on Left side
> Precision Fuel Injection System
>
> I personally think the lightspeed is probably what makes
> this plane start so well compared to any other plane I've
> flown. I don't ususally get many blades passing by before
> it's purring right along.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't know about the IO540, but suspect it is like the IO360 I now fly.
>> Any start other than 1st start of the day or when plane has sat long enough
>> for engine to get back to cool to touch crankcase is a hot start.
>> I just leave mixture at cutoff, use maybe 1/8 to 1/4" throttle, start
>> cranking and after 4 blades slowly add mixture until it catches. Works
>> 99.94% of time.
>>
>> Miller John wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> For those flying with the IO-540 and who have a good deal of experience
>>> with hot starts.
>>>
>>> Hot starts are defined as 80+F on the ramp, and trying to start from 10 -
>>> 30 minutes after landing with engine at normal operating temps.
>>>
>>> I've been using Tim's method, but not always successful in 1) getting it
>>> running and then 2) keeping it running.
>>>
>>> Yesterday, once I did get it running, it was surging badly and turning
>>> the boost pump on seemed to settle it out.
>>>
>>> If you have a tried and true technique on getting it started when it's
>>> hot, please share.
>>>
>>> Thanks - grumpy
>>> N184JM
>>>
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling - How did you guys go about the engine mount gap? |
Michael I made these for my RV-10 and decided that I would offer these to
everyone. They are very easy to put on. They require 3 #6 nut plates.
They are real easy to take on and off. Cost is round 70.00 a pair. They are
carbon fiber. Herei is a link below to my web page for more pictures
in the firewall forward area.
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Finishing
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