RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 06/17/09


Total Messages Posted: 19



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:29 AM - Re: N246RS Airworthy (Wayne Edgerton)
     2. 07:36 AM - Complete IRF panel for sale (Guy and Jill Foreman)
     3. 08:52 AM - Re: N246RS Airworthy (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
     4. 09:19 AM - Re: N246RS Airworthy (John Jessen)
     5. 10:52 AM - Re: N246RS Airworthy (Rick Sked)
     6. 04:23 PM - Rear baggage wall access panel (Wayne Edgerton)
     7. 04:25 PM - Re: N246RS Airworthy (Bob and Karen Brown)
     8. 04:50 PM - Re: Rear baggage wall access panel (Deems Davis)
     9. 04:52 PM - Re: Rear baggage wall access panel (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
    10. 04:57 PM - Re: N246RS Airworthy (gary)
    11. 05:05 PM - Re: Rear baggage wall access panel (effectus@rogers.com)
    12. 05:21 PM - Re: N246RS Airworthy (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
    13. 06:14 PM - Re: Rear baggage wall access panel (Miller John)
    14. 06:33 PM - Re: Rear baggage wall access panel (Robin Marks)
    15. 06:34 PM - Re: N246RS Airworthy (Robin Marks)
    16. 06:46 PM - HID Light PIREP (Robin Marks)
    17. 07:24 PM - Re: Rear baggage wall access panel (Tim Olson)
    18. 08:34 PM - Re: Rear baggage wall access panel (John Gonzalez)
    19. 11:11 PM - Re: Rear baggage wall access panel (Dave Saylor)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:29:12 AM PST US
    From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net>
    Subject: Re: N246RS Airworthy
    Hey congratulations Rick. What was your hurry in getting it done :>} Good luck on your first flight. Wayne Edgerton N602WT Just finishing up on my second conditional


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    Time: 07:36:44 AM PST US
    From: Guy and Jill Foreman <guyjill01@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Complete IRF panel for sale
    I thought I pass along a complete IFR prewired panel I have for sale. The p ane is currently installed in a Velocity=2C but could be used in a Vans RV . Will be removed with every wire attached. I have listed on www.barnstorme rs.com look under experimental/velocity $19=2C000. I have pics=2C but to l arge for the site. below is a list of the items on the panel: Garmin MX-20 W/ Terrian MFD Apollo SL-15 audio panel W/ MB & 4 pl intercom Apollo GX-60 GPS / Comm (IFR Cert) Apollo SL-30 Comm/ Nav With G/S Apollo SL-70 Transponder W/ encoder STEC 30 auto pilot W/ alt hold & GPSS stearing JPI Engine anlizer CHT/EGT/FF (4 cylinder engine) JPI slim line engine gauges GI-106 Indicator W/ GS Traffic scope Apollo mode select panel (vor/gps) Caution panel 4 Place mic/ phone jacks UMA inst lights W/ dimmer ADI (vac) DG W/ heading bug (Vac) Airspeed Altimeter VSI Suction guage Fuel guage (LT/ RT) Hobbs Elec clock Note: entire panel comes as shown in picture. Includes throttle=2C mixture =2C prop=2C switch/breaker panel=2C compass=2C pre wired. Thanks=2C Guy Foreman guyjill01@hotmail.com 321-626-7699 C 219-477-5424 H _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE has ever-growing storage! Don=92t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tuto rial_Storage_062009


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    Time: 08:52:52 AM PST US
    Subject: N246RS Airworthy
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    Congrats Rick! Now, when is Bob K. going to get there... Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ricksked@embarqmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: RV10-List: N246RS Airworthy .N246RS became a full fledged aeroplane at exactly high noon today...5 years 4 months , 12 days after opening the first crate..... Rick Sked N246RS...Airworthy!!! Fuel er up!!!! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


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    Time: 09:19:08 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <n212pj@gmail.com>
    Subject: N246RS Airworthy
    Hey, Dude! What a very nice message to receive! Can't wait to see it. John J -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ricksked@embarqmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:30 PM .N246RS became a full fledged aeroplane at exactly high noon today...5 years 4 months , 12 days after opening the first crate..... Rick Sked N246RS...Airworthy!!!


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    Time: 10:52:35 AM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: N246RS Airworthy
    Thanks for all the Congrats, I wasn't in a hurry but when you consider I'll be 48 in September, the real ity of spending more than 10 percent of your life working on this project s tarts to sink in. And Wayne...the reason it took so long was I had to wait for you to finish the O2 system so I could see how to do it without reinven ting the wheel. My glass parts are still in primer, I'm going to spray them this week prior to the first flight. At that time I will post some picture s of the finished aircraft. I can say that anyone planning on painting is i n for WAY more than you expect in the form of work. It was 10 times more ti me consuming than any other project I've ever done. My first time using HVL P and urethane paint. That combination is very susceptible to orange peel. I have a little but the Loehle system is great and imperfections color sand and buff right out. Wonderfil is FANTASTIC...it's hard to rub it on only b ecause it looks smells and acts like car wax...once you shoot the primer ov er it it's weave and pinhole city but as soon as you sand it they disappear . One more final coat of primer, light sand and it's ready for paint...I hi ghly recommend it. I did have help from a friend in the paint process....he was more agile than I and climbed in and around all the tough spots...like the bottom..I had to move everything to Boulder City airport for the inspe ction and fly off. That sucked because we have a nice facility at North Las Vegas and had to go from 3500 sf to a small T hangar, tools and all. Mel A sberry did the inspection and was a great guy to deal with. He climbed over the whole project for 4 hours. He found 2 loose jamb nuts and my four pull controls for heat, aux intake air and purge valve were not labeled...I can live with that. I'm not an excitable or emotional person but when he hande d me the temp cert I admit there was a rush of emotion that ran through me. It can only be explained by those who have been through it I guess. If the first flight is more so then I can't wait. FWIW I know my limitations and have given the first flight to my friend and hangar co owner Bob Kaufmann.. ..He has about 1800 hours TT and 20 in the RV-10..I deal with risk manageme nt everyday and can find no other reason for me to do the flight other than to say I did. To each his own, I have no issues with it or any ego that ne eds to be stroked. Look for the pictures and first flight post sometime nex t week. Rick Sked N246RS Whew! do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:26:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: RV10-List: N246RS Airworthy Hey congratulations Rick. What was your hurry in getting it done=C2-:>} =C2-Good luck on your first flight. Wayne Edgerton N602WT ==============


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    Time: 04:23:06 PM PST US
    From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net>
    Subject: Rear baggage wall access panel
    I saw a post at one time where one of you made an access panel in the back baggage wall and am trying to locate the person that did that and see his pictures of the panel. I just finished my second conditional and made up my mind I've got to do something that make it easier for that back area access. Tons of screws to remove and undoing the seat belts etc. I also have my oxygen tank attached to the back baggage wall area, which I took the idea from Randy's web site. So whoever that was I hope you can post your idea so I can copy you. Wayne Edgerton N602WT do not archive


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    Time: 04:25:29 PM PST US
    From: "Bob and Karen Brown" <bkbrown@minetfiber.com>
    Subject: N246RS Airworthy
    Congratulations Rick! I think anyone who=99s finished a homebuilt knows all the feelings that come with getting that airworthiness certificated handed to you. Waiting on pics =93 Bob Brown From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: N246RS Airworthy Thanks for all the Congrats, I wasn't in a hurry but when you consider I'll be 48 in September, the reality of spending more than 10 percent of your life working on this project starts to sink in. And Wayne...the reason it took so long was I had to wait for you to finish the O2 system so I could see how to do it without reinventing the wheel. My glass parts are still in primer, I'm going to spray them this week prior to the first flight. At that time I will post some pictures of the finished aircraft. I can say that anyone planning on painting is in for WAY more than you expect in the form of work. It was 10 times more time consuming than any other project I've ever done. My first time using HVLP and urethane paint. That combination is very susceptible to orange peel. I have a little but the Loehle system is great and imperfections color sand and buff right out. Wonderfil is FANTASTIC...it's hard to rub it on only because it looks smells and acts like car wax...once you shoot the primer over it it's weave and pinhole city but as soon as you sand it they disappear. One more final coat of primer, light sand and it's ready for paint...I highly recommend it. I did have help from a friend in the paint process....he was more agile than I and climbed in and around all the tough spots...like the bottom..I had to move everything to Boulder City airport for the inspection and fly off. That sucked because we have a nice facility at North Las Vegas and had to go from 3500 sf to a small T hangar, tools and all. Mel Asberry did the inspection and was a great guy to deal with. He climbed over the whole project for 4 hours. He found 2 loose jamb nuts and my four pull controls for heat, aux intake air and purge valve were not labeled...I can live with that. I'm not an excitable or emotional person but when he handed me the temp cert I admit there was a rush of emotion that ran through me. It can only be explained by those who have been through it I guess. If the first flight is more so then I can't wait. FWIW I know my limitations and have given the first flight to my friend and hangar co owner Bob Kaufmann....He has about 1800 hours TT and 20 in the RV-10..I deal with risk management everyday and can find no other reason for me to do the flight other than to say I did. To each his own, I have no issues with it or any ego that needs to be stroked. Look for the pictures and first flight post sometime next week. Rick Sked N246RS Whew! do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:26:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: RV10-List: N246RS Airworthy Hey congratulations Rick. What was your hurry in getting it done :>} Good luck on your first flight. Wayne Edgerton N602WT Just finishing up on my second conditional --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ; http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 04:50:07 PM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Rear baggage wall access panel
    Wayne, here's a link to a photo album, that shows how I did mine, I copied the idea from Robin Marks. just follow the links to next image there should be about 20 pics that show the process. http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%20The%20Home%20Stretch/slides/DSC06496.html Deems Davis N519PJ http://deemsrv10.com/ Wayne Edgerton wrote: > I saw a post at one time where one of you made an access panel in the > back baggage wall and am trying to locate the person that did that and > see his pictures of the panel. I just finished my second conditional > and made up my mind I've got to do something that make it easier for > that back area access. Tons of screws to remove and undoing the seat > belts etc. I also have my oxygen tank attached to the back baggage > wall area, which I took the idea from Randy's web site. > > So whoever that was I hope you can post your idea so I can copy you. > > Wayne Edgerton N602WT > > do not archive > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 04:52:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rear baggage wall access panel
    From: ricksked@embarqmail.com
    Ck Robin Marks site. I copied his Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net> Subject: RV10-List: Rear baggage wall access panel This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


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    Time: 04:57:26 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: N246RS Airworthy
    I know of several folks that had others do the first flight and then after the fact said they had done it. No one was the wiser. Gary Specketer 40274 Flying _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:50 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: N246RS Airworthy Thanks for all the Congrats, I wasn't in a hurry but when you consider I'll be 48 in September, the reality of spending more than 10 percent of your life working on this project starts to sink in. And Wayne...the reason it took so long was I had to wait for you to finish the O2 system so I could see how to do it without reinventing the wheel. My glass parts are still in primer, I'm going to spray them this week prior to the first flight. At that time I will post some pictures of the finished aircraft. I can say that anyone planning on painting is in for WAY more than you expect in the form of work. It was 10 times more time consuming than any other project I've ever done. My first time using HVLP and urethane paint. That combination is very susceptible to orange peel. I have a little but the Loehle system is great and imperfections color sand and buff right out. Wonderfil is FANTASTIC...it's hard to rub it on only because it looks smells and acts like car wax...once you shoot the primer over it it's weave and pinhole city but as soon as you sand it they disappear. One more final coat of primer, light sand and it's ready for paint...I highly recommend it. I did have help from a friend in the paint process....he was more agile than I and climbed in and around all the tough spots...like the bottom..I had to move everything to Boulder City airport for the inspection and fly off. That sucked because we have a nice facility at North Las Vegas and had to go from 3500 sf to a small T hangar, tools and all. Mel Asberry did the inspection and was a great guy to deal with. He climbed over the whole project for 4 hours. He found 2 loose jamb nuts and my four pull controls for heat, aux intake air and purge valve were not labeled...I can live with that. I'm not an excitable or emotional person but when he handed me the temp cert I admit there was a rush of emotion that ran through me. It can only be explained by those who have been through it I guess. If the first flight is more so then I can't wait. FWIW I know my limitations and have given the first flight to my friend and hangar co owner Bob Kaufmann....He has about 1800 hours TT and 20 in the RV-10..I deal with risk management everyday and can find no other reason for me to do the flight other than to say I did. To each his own, I have no issues with it or any ego that needs to be stroked. Look for the pictures and first flight post sometime next week. Rick Sked N246RS Whew! do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:26:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: RV10-List: N246RS Airworthy Hey congratulations Rick. What was your hurry in getting it done :>} Good luck on your first flight. Wayne Edgerton N602WT Just finishing up on my second conditional --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ; http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 05:05:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rear baggage wall access panel
    From: effectus@rogers.com
    Wayne, I did that mod to the rear baggage wall. I'll get a couple of photos tomorrow and e-mail them to you. I am not sure how to post photos. - will also put a w rite-up about it on my blog. Here is the link wwwmkitai rcraftmods.com Dave Fitting the door hardware. work -----Original Message----- From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net> Subject: RV10-List: Rear baggage wall access panel This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


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    Time: 05:21:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: N246RS Airworthy
    From: ricksked@embarqmail.com
    Lol....yeah but if ya tell the truth you never have to remember what you lied about...one of those few euphemisms I a lady told me that made sense...but she turned out to be a liar...go figure. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net> Subject: RE: RV10-List: N246RS Airworthy This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


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    Time: 06:14:55 PM PST US
    From: Miller John <gengrumpy@AOL.COM>
    Subject: Re: Rear baggage wall access panel
    I'd be a little cautious about cutting the panel as it may affect strength of the bulkhead as designed by Van's. Might check with them before shortcutting potential strength design. grumpy N184JM do not archive On Jun 17, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Deems Davis wrote: > > Wayne, here's a link to a photo album, that shows how I did mine, I > copied the idea from Robin Marks. just follow the links to next > image there should be about 20 pics that show the process. > > http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%20The%20Home%20Stretch/slides/DSC06496.html > > Deems Davis N519PJ > http://deemsrv10.com/ > > > Wayne Edgerton wrote: >> I saw a post at one time where one of you made an access panel in >> the back baggage wall and am trying to locate the person that did >> that and see his pictures of the panel. I just finished my second >> conditional and made up my mind I've got to do something that make >> it easier for that back area access. Tons of screws to remove and >> undoing the seat belts etc. I also have my oxygen tank attached to >> the back baggage wall area, which I took the idea from Randy's web >> site. >> So whoever that was I hope you can post your idea so I can copy you. >> Wayne Edgerton N602WT >> do not archive >> * >> >> >> * > >


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    Time: 06:33:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Rear baggage wall access panel
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    Wayne, I think that is my build. My only regret is that's it's not even larger or add a second one. Tremendous for Battery access etc.. My O2 filler connect is also located there. On important component. Use a split hinge pin to allow for easy removal. A slightly different design is to have the door hinge at the top and hold it up by a simple Velcro strap or the like. Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: RV10-List: Rear baggage wall access panel I saw a post at one time where one of you made an access panel in the back baggage wall and am trying to locate the person that did that and see his pictures of the panel. I just finished my second conditional and made up my mind I've got to do something that make it easier for that back area access. Tons of screws to remove and undoing the seat belts etc. I also have my oxygen tank attached to the back baggage wall area, which I took the idea from Randy's web site. So whoever that was I hope you can post your idea so I can copy you. Wayne Edgerton N602WT do not archive Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06/17/09 05:53:00


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    Time: 06:34:27 PM PST US
    Subject: N246RS Airworthy
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    Rick you are definitely going to do YOUR first flight. It may not be the ships first flight but that will not lessen your RV Grin. Robin Do Not Archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: N246RS Airworthy I know of several folks that had others do the first flight and then after the fact said they had done it. No one was the wiser. Gary Specketer 40274 Flying ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:50 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: N246RS Airworthy Thanks for all the Congrats, I wasn't in a hurry but when you consider I'll be 48 in September, the reality of spending more than 10 percent of your life working on this project starts to sink in. And Wayne...the reason it took so long was I had to wait for you to finish the O2 system so I could see how to do it without reinventing the wheel. My glass parts are still in primer, I'm going to spray them this week prior to the first flight. At that time I will post some pictures of the finished aircraft. I can say that anyone planning on painting is in for WAY more than you expect in the form of work. It was 10 times more time consuming than any other project I've ever done. My first time using HVLP and urethane paint. That combination is very susceptible to orange peel. I have a little but the Loehle system is great and imperfections color sand and buff right out. Wonderfil is FANTASTIC...it's hard to rub it on only because it looks smells and acts like car wax...once you shoot the primer over it it's weave and pinhole city but as soon as you sand it they disappear. One more final coat of primer, light sand and it's ready for paint...I highly recommend it. I did have help from a friend in the paint process....he was more agile than I and climbed in and around all the tough spots...like the bottom..I had to move everything to Boulder City airport for the inspection and fly off. That sucked because we have a nice facility at North Las Vegas and had to go from 3500 sf to a small T hangar, tools and all. Mel Asberry did the inspection and was a great guy to deal with. He climbed over the whole project for 4 hours. He found 2 loose jamb nuts and my four pull controls for heat, aux intake air and purge valve were not labeled...I can live with that. I'm not an excitable or emotional person but when he handed me the temp cert I admit there was a rush of emotion that ran through me. It can only be explained by those who have been through it I guess. If the first flight is more so then I can't wait. FWIW I know my limitations and have given the first flight to my friend and hangar co owner Bob Kaufmann....He has about 1800 hours TT and 20 in the RV-10..I deal with risk management everyday and can find no other reason for me to do the flight other than to say I did. To each his own, I have no issues with it or any ego that needs to be stroked. Look for the pictures and first flight post sometime next week. Rick Sked N246RS Whew! do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:26:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: RV10-List: N246RS Airworthy Hey congratulations Rick. What was your hurry in getting it done :>} Good luck on your first flight. Wayne Edgerton N602WT Just finishing up on my second conditional --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ; http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06/17/09 05:53:00


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    Time: 06:46:59 PM PST US
    Subject: HID Light PIREP
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    Just a quick PIREP on my Duckworks Dual HID light system. We installed two Duckworth 35 Watt HID lights and a Wig/Wag controller to the leading edges of our -10. In the short time we have been flying I have had A LOT of people (strangers) come up to me and tell me how bright & noticeable they in full daylight. I remember seeing my neighbor's Pilatus swoop in to our filed with his HID's a blazing and I had to have them. Also of note several people thought my plane was much larger because of the spread of the lights (?). For the record no wing extension mods!. Since their introduction I believe there are less expensive choices available but regardless I am extremely happy with the firepower of the dual HID's and think it's one of the least expensive safety options you can add to their build. Seeing is the key to avoiding. Robin Note: Lights are not on, that is just the suns reflection.


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    Time: 07:24:55 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Rear baggage wall access panel
    Actually, I've heard many times that it is a structural wall, and that you can't fly without it, and if you alter the back wall you want to make sure it's sufficiently beefed up to give it back it's structural-ness. So, if you cut into it, just plan ahead to make sure you do all you need to make it just as strong again. Contacting Vans on that one wouldn't be a bad idea. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD Miller John wrote: > > I'd be a little cautious about cutting the panel as it may affect > strength of the bulkhead as designed by Van's. > > Might check with them before shortcutting potential strength design. > > grumpy > N184JM > > do not archive > > On Jun 17, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Deems Davis wrote: > >> >> Wayne, here's a link to a photo album, that shows how I did mine, I >> copied the idea from Robin Marks. just follow the links to next image >> there should be about 20 pics that show the process. >> >> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%20The%20Home%20Stretch/slides/DSC06496.html >> >> >> Deems Davis N519PJ >> http://deemsrv10.com/ >> >> >> Wayne Edgerton wrote: >>> I saw a post at one time where one of you made an access panel in the >>> back baggage wall and am trying to locate the person that did that >>> and see his pictures of the panel. I just finished my second >>> conditional and made up my mind I've got to do something that make it >>> easier for that back area access. Tons of screws to remove and >>> undoing the seat belts etc. I also have my oxygen tank attached to >>> the back baggage wall area, which I took the idea from Randy's web site. >>> So whoever that was I hope you can post your idea so I can copy you. >>> Wayne Edgerton N602WT >>> do not archive >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 08:34:04 PM PST US
    From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Rear baggage wall access panel
    There is a reason for all those corregations > Date: Wed=2C 17 Jun 2009 21:24:03 -0500 > From: Tim@MyRV10.com > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rear baggage wall access panel > > > Actually=2C I've heard many times that it is a structural wall=2C > and that you can't fly without it=2C and if you alter the back > wall you want to make sure it's sufficiently beefed up to > give it back it's structural-ness. So=2C if you cut into it=2C > just plan ahead to make sure you do all you need to make it > just as strong again. Contacting Vans on that one wouldn't > be a bad idea. > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > > > > Miller John wrote: >> >> I'd be a little cautious about cutting the panel as it may affect >> strength of the bulkhead as designed by Van's. >> >> Might check with them before shortcutting potential strength design. >> >> grumpy >> N184JM >> >> do not archive >> >> On Jun 17=2C 2009=2C at 6:45 PM=2C Deems Davis wrote: >> >>> >>> Wayne=2C here's a link to a photo album=2C that shows how I did mine=2C I >>> copied the idea from Robin Marks. just follow the links to next image >>> there should be about 20 pics that show the process. >>> >>> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%20The%20Home%20Stretch/slides/DSC06496.h tml >>> >>> >>> Deems Davis N519PJ >>> http://deemsrv10.com/ >>> >>> >>> Wayne Edgerton wrote: >>>> I saw a post at one time where one of you made an access panel in the >>>> back baggage wall and am trying to locate the person that did that >>>> and see his pictures of the panel. I just finished my second >>>> conditional and made up my mind I've got to do something that make it >>>> easier for that back area access. Tons of screws to remove and >>>> undoing the seat belts etc. I also have my oxygen tank attached to >>>> the back baggage wall area=2C which I took the idea from Randy's web s ite. >>>> So whoever that was I hope you can post your idea so I can copy you. >>>> Wayne Edgerton N602WT >>>> do not archive >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> * >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 11:11:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rear baggage wall access panel
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    In a past life, I used to have to pull off this one little 6" x 6" plate that had a screw about every inch around the perimeter--it was a structural panel. Unfortunately, that's usually true of anything with a lot of screws/bolts/rivets/welds..."lots of screws" should be the first sign that maybe it needs more than casual treatment! Not that it can't be doubled up or reinforced, but it's worth checking. Dave On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > > Actually, I've heard many times that it is a structural wall, > and that you can't fly without it, and if you alter the back > wall you want to make sure it's sufficiently beefed up to > give it back it's structural-ness. So, if you cut into it, > just plan ahead to make sure you do all you need to make it > just as strong again. Contacting Vans on that one wouldn't > be a bad idea. > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > > > Miller John wrote: > >> >> I'd be a little cautious about cutting the panel as it may affect strength >> of the bulkhead as designed by Van's. >> >> Might check with them before shortcutting potential strength design. >> >> grumpy >> N184JM >> >> do not archive >> >> On Jun 17, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Deems Davis wrote: >> >>> >>> Wayne, here's a link to a photo album, that shows how I did mine, I >>> copied the idea from Robin Marks. just follow the links to next image there >>> should be about 20 pics that show the process. >>> >>> >>> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%20The%20Home%20Stretch/slides/DSC06496.html >>> >>> Deems Davis N519PJ >>> http://deemsrv10.com/ >>> >>> >>> Wayne Edgerton wrote: >>> >>>> I saw a post at one time where one of you made an access panel in the >>>> back baggage wall and am trying to locate the person that did that and see >>>> his pictures of the panel. I just finished my second conditional and made up >>>> my mind I've got to do something that make it easier for that back area >>>> access. Tons of screws to remove and undoing the seat belts etc. I also have >>>> my oxygen tank attached to the back baggage wall area, which I took the idea >>>> from Randy's web site. >>>> So whoever that was I hope you can post your idea so I can copy you. >>>> Wayne Edgerton N602WT >>>> do not archive >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Dave Saylor AirCrafters LLC 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell




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