---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/19/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:19 AM - Airflow Performance Injector Matching (Susan) 2. 06:53 AM - Starter replacement (Wayne Edgerton) 3. 07:23 AM - Re: Starter replacement (Kelly McMullen) 4. 10:34 AM - Boone IA tomorrow (n277dl) 5. 11:54 AM - My version of Re: AeroElectric-List: FW: Inspection camera (John Cox) 6. 02:09 PM - 2009 NW RV-10 Builders and Flyers Spring BBQ Pictures now available (John Jessen) 7. 10:42 PM - Bonaco Fuel lines - selector to wing (AirMike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:19:06 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Airflow Performance Injector Matching From: "Susan" I have an IO-540-C4B5 engine with Airflow Performance injectors. I have followed their process for matching the fuel flow. Attached are the numbers before and after. Before: Cylinder #2 was leaning first (12.8 Gal / Hr), Cylinders #1 and #4 were leaning last (12.2 Gal / Hr). Airflow looked a the data and recommended changing the #2 cylinder from 0.028 to 0.0285 and Cylinders #1 and #4 from 0.028 to 0.027. After: The cylinders are pretty much grouped at 12.35 - 12.15 Gal / Hr range. Cost was $25 per cylinder for inserts. (My cost was about $85 with shipping) Jim Combs N312F - Flying (75 hours) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:30 AM PST US From: "Wayne Edgerton" Subject: RV10-List: Starter replacement I don't know if any of you had the problem that I had with the starter or not. We installed the engine in 2005 with a Sky-Tec High Torque HT starter, which supposedly was the best one they had back then. Anyway, whenever I would do a cold start of the engine the prop would make about a half revolution and stop, like it didn't have enough power to it. I would then try again and it would turn fine. Another RV friend of mine on my field told me about a new starter that Sky-Tec came out with that took less volts and turned the prop slower. It's a High Torque in Line NL. This friend was having the same problem with his 7, which has high compression pistons. We both switched to this new NL starter and it solved our problem. The new starter weighed a little bit more than my old one, something like a pound. I live in TX, so cold isn't a problem but I fly up into the cold country and was worried I wasn't going to get started on some cold day. Sky-Tec are really good people located right here near me in Granbury, TX and they took my old starter in on trade against the new one and it cost me $250 to upgrade. I thought that was a pretty good deal. Anyway I just thought I would pass this along in case any of you are experiencing the same problem as I had. Wayne Edgerton N602WT ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:19 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Starter replacement From: Kelly McMullen The NL is a good choice. Just be aware if you have any mag/ignition issue that could cause a kickback, the NL starter has a shear pin to protect the starter. Unfortunately, you have to remove the starter from the engine to change the shear pin. Another good choice is the Kelly Aerospace E-drive starter. Advantages...uses clutch to protect against kickback, lower current draw than Skytec. Both are high torque. Priced within $10 of each other. Same warranty. Within 0.1lbs of each other. I've heard good reports on both. I have a Skytec Flyweight on my aircraft, because it was on it when I bought the plane. Has same issues you mention, has needed 2 rebuilds in less than 800 hours. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Wayne Edgerton wrote: > I don't know if any of you had the problem that I had with the starter or > not. We installed the engine in 2005 with a Sky-Tec High Torque HT starter, > which supposedly was the best one they had back then. Anyway, whenever I > would do a cold start of the enginethe prop would make about a half > revolution and stop, like it didn't have enough power to it. I would then > try again and it would turn fine. > > Another RV friend of mine on my field told me about a new starter that > Sky-Tec came out with that took less volts and turned the prop slower. It's > a High Torque in Line NL. This friend was having the same problem with his > 7, which has high compression pistons. We both switched to this new NL > starter and it solved our problem. The new starter weighed a little bit more > than my old one, something like a pound. I live in TX, so cold isn't a > problem but I fly up into the cold country and was worried I wasn't going to > get started on some cold day. > > Sky-Tec are really good people located right here near me in Granbury, TX > and they took my old starter in on trade against the new one and it cost me > $250 to upgrade. I thought that was a pretty good deal. > > Anyway I just thought I would pass this along in case any of you are > experiencing the same problem as I had. > > Wayne Edgerton > N602WT > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:46 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Boone IA tomorrow From: "n277dl" Afternoon group, Not sure if anyone is planning to attend but.... if you are and...... if you're wanting to fly around for a couple minutes with some extra ballast than what you brought with you.... Then my name is ballast :) Weather permitting and the thunderstorms pass through tonight I plan to be there in the 7A - 277DL. Doug 90%done 90% to go... Do Not Archive -------- Doug "Fools" are always more creative than process people and will always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249131#249131 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:54:45 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: My version of RE: AeroElectric-List: FW: Inspection camera From: "John Cox" I stole this from Tim's post to the AeroElectric list. Added my Harbor Freight discount coupon to pound the price down to $80. Happy Father's Day all you more than 700 RV-10 builders that are not yet finished and flying. Don't forget to cut off my name at the top before redeeming it at Harbor Freight near you. Oh, and Rick congrats on N246RS making my completed list. The camera mounts up to a HD laptop just fine for Conditional Inspections. There might even be a few of you that will redeem it for our brethren over the pond and send it packing to share in the experiment. John #40600 -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:41 PM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: FW: Inspection camera --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Tim Olson I picked up one today too for $99. Haven't tried it out yet. It looks like the camera may just fit inside the larger spark plug holes...has anyone verified this? Also, if anyone hears of the smaller camera for sure working with this model, and finds a great price on it, I'd consider buying one as well. Right now I have no use for the whole darn thing, but I have a really hard time passing up on cool tool that you may find very helpful some day. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive ROGER & JEAN CURTIS wrote: > > > Just got my HF flier today. The sale is good until July 6. See attachment! > > > > Roger > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:57 PM PST US From: "John Jessen" Subject: RV10-List: 2009 NW RV-10 Builders and Flyers Spring BBQ Pictures now available Pictures now available of the 2009 NW RV-10 Builders & Flyers BBQ held at Lenhardt's Airpark in Oregon. We had fine weather and around 60 participants, according to one count. Four RV-10's flew in, each of which was displayed nicely on the cover of the latest EAA-105 newsletter. A complete set of pictures can be found at www.jessen-rv10.com. Click on NW RV-10 Dinners in the top menu. Scroll down until you get to the 2009 Spring picture, then click on that. The four RV-10's that flew to the BBQ included Randy Debauw, Bruce Radke, Norm Rainey, and Tim James. Rob Hickman's was in the shop being painted. Bruce and Becky Breckenridge had their completed empcone and wings out for examination and critique, as well as a demo of Jeff Bordelon's LED nav lights (http://www.jeffsrv-7a.com/LEDPROJECT1.htm). Paul Grimstad had his rudder pedals on display. Beautiful and affordable! Jerry VanGrunsven was ask to do yeoman's service, leading this meeting's discussion, the topic of which was the flying characteristics of the RV-10, including what to think about prior to first flight. Current 10 flyers joined in during the Q&A. The conclusion? Definitely get some time in the left seat before your first flight. But don't be intimidated. The plane is stable and has great handling characteristics. It definitely has power and speed, so get the training if all you've flow recently is a 172. Learn how to stay ahead of the plane and you'll be fine. Included in the discussion was an update on the flying characteristics of the new Hartzell 3-blade composite prop, which is being test flown by Rob. The "fall" NW RV-10 Builders and Flyers dinner will be held on Friday, August 28th, which is the evening before the RV Homecoming. Bob Brown and Norm Rainey will be our hosts. This will be at Independence, OR (7S5). We expect a good RV-10 showing. Let me know if you plan to attend so Bob and Norm can have a good count for planning purposes. See you then! John Jessen ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:27 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Bonaco Fuel lines - selector to wing From: "AirMike" Have you ever had a duhhhhh moment. Well I did today after receiving my Bonaco fuel lines. I cannot believe that I spent as much time as I did messing around with the Vans aluminum fuel lines. I have no doubt that I have over 15 hours invested in those aluminum lines that are now residing in the trash can. The 42" Bonaco lines are a tad short if you run them exactly as Vans has it in the plans. I drilled a new 1" hole in the tunnel wall creating a more direct route, and they fit fine. The fit is fast and I have no doubt the they are much safer than the hard aluminum lines. The lines are very well made and the SS web is even covered with a thick plastic abrasion covering. For newbies getting into the tunnel area save hours of work and just order up these lines. Faster - safer - better. 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