---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/24/09: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:36 AM - Re: Fuel tank leak testing (Jesse Saint) 2. 06:21 AM - Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from plans? (Bill Mauledriver Watson) 3. 06:39 AM - Re: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from plans? (Rene Felker) 4. 07:11 AM - Re: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from plans? (ricksked@embarqmail.com) 5. 07:12 AM - Re: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from plans? (Bill Mauledriver Watson) 6. 07:30 AM - Re: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from pla (Lew Gallagher) 7. 10:11 AM - Re: Re: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from pla (Ben Westfall) 8. 10:35 AM - Re: Re: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from pla (Lew Gallagher) 9. 12:25 PM - Re: Re: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from pla (Bill Mauledriver Watson) 10. 01:45 PM - Emailing: IMG_1291, IMG_1292, IMG_1290 (David McNeill) 11. 01:55 PM - Re: Fuel tank leak testing (Ron B.) 12. 05:15 PM - Toys for those living in fibreglass hell (or how to find all those missing rivets) (Les Kearney) 13. 08:06 PM - carpet (David McNeill) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:36:31 AM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel tank leak testing This might help find obvious leaks in the bottom of the tanks and maybe the back bulkhead, but probably not in the top of the tank. The ballon test gives a little pressure to simulate flying. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation jesse@saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > Marvel Mystery Oil will give it a red tint. > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:49 PM, AirMike wrote: > > > PS: Does anyone know of a fuel dye that will not mess up my fuel > system when I put it in my Toyota SUV??? > > -------- > OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there someday > Q/B Kit - FWF end game > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249742#249742 > > > ========== > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:18 AM PST US From: Bill Mauledriver Watson Subject: RV10-List: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from plans? I'm assembling the engine cowl hinges and pins. On page 47-8 they describe how the hinge Cowl 10-03 are fabricated and installed. The front of the pin is retained by a "knuckle". I assume this knuckle is fabricated from a piece of the hinge material and that the pin is bent and cut flush with the knuckle. However, there are no specific directions on fabricating the knuckle. Nor does it seem to be a part in the BOM. It looks straight forward enough but the directions have been so detailed and complete through this section, I'm surprised by the omission... or am I missing something? BTW, I see David McNeil suggests cutting the hinge pin long enough to extend through the knuckle so that it can be bent over the edge of the bottom cowl just as it is on the Glastar. Comments welcome here. Thanks in advance Bill "I didn't believe the cowl could take longer than 40 hours" Watson. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:26 AM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from plans? Vans sells some pre-made hinge pins. I just bought them. http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1245850625-294-762&bro wse=airframe&product=cowl-hinge-pin Rene' Felker RV-10 N423CF Flying 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Mauledriver Watson Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:13 AM Subject: RV10-List: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from plans? I'm assembling the engine cowl hinges and pins. On page 47-8 they describe how the hinge Cowl 10-03 are fabricated and installed. The front of the pin is retained by a "knuckle". I assume this knuckle is fabricated from a piece of the hinge material and that the pin is bent and cut flush with the knuckle. However, there are no specific directions on fabricating the knuckle. Nor does it seem to be a part in the BOM. It looks straight forward enough but the directions have been so detailed and complete through this section, I'm surprised by the omission... or am I missing something? BTW, I see David McNeil suggests cutting the hinge pin long enough to extend through the knuckle so that it can be bent over the edge of the bottom cowl just as it is on the Glastar. Comments welcome here. Thanks in advance Bill "I didn't believe the cowl could take longer than 40 hours" Watson. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from plans? From: ricksked@embarqmail.com At this point EVERYTHING takes at least 40 hours Rick Sked ------Original Message------ From: Bill Mauledriver Watson Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: Rv Sent: Jun 24, 2009 6:12 AM Subject: RV10-List: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from plans? I'm assembling the engine cowl hinges and pins. On page 47-8 they describe how the hinge Cowl 10-03 are fabricated and installed. The front of the pin is retained by a "knuckle". I assume this knuckle is fabricated from a piece of the hinge material and that the pin is bent and cut flush with the knuckle. However, there are no specific directions on fabricating the knuckle. Nor does it seem to be a part in the BOM. It looks straight forward enough but the directions have been so detailed and complete through this section, I'm surprised by the omission... or am I missing something? BTW, I see David McNeil suggests cutting the hinge pin long enough to extend through the knuckle so that it can be bent over the edge of the bottom cowl just as it is on the Glastar. Comments welcome here. Thanks in advance Bill "I didn't believe the cowl could take longer than 40 hours" Watson. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:08 AM PST US From: Bill Mauledriver Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from plans? Thanks Rene' I saw the note about the pins in the plans but it wasn't clear that they included the 'knuckle'. Should have know that whenever something is boldfaced in the directions, it deserves extra attention and investigation. Order going in now. Bill Watson Rene Felker wrote: > > Vans sells some pre-made hinge pins. I just bought them. > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1245850625-294-762&bro > wse=airframe&product=cowl-hinge-pin > > Rene' Felker > RV-10 N423CF Flying > 801-721-6080 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Mauledriver > Watson > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:13 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from > plans? > > > > I'm assembling the engine cowl hinges and pins. On page 47-8 they > describe how the hinge Cowl 10-03 are fabricated and installed. > > The front of the pin is retained by a "knuckle". I assume this knuckle > is fabricated from a piece of the hinge material and that the pin is > bent and cut flush with the knuckle. However, there are no specific > directions on fabricating the knuckle. Nor does it seem to be a part in > the BOM. > > It looks straight forward enough but the directions have been so > detailed and complete through this section, I'm surprised by the > omission... or am I missing something? > > BTW, I see David McNeil suggests cutting the hinge pin long enough to > extend through the knuckle so that it can be bent over the edge of the > bottom cowl just as it is on the Glastar. Comments welcome here. > > Thanks in advance > Bill "I didn't believe the cowl could take longer than 40 hours" Watson. > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:27 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from pla From: "Lew Gallagher" Hey Bill, There are several creative and beautiful mods out there for this. Here's a couple of pictures of what I did that was simple, cheap, time consuming! With a white painted screw that is countersunk, it almost disappears. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Painting when it's 60+ degrees! Piddling with wiring and avionics. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249803#249803 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pin1_medium_334.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/white_pin1_medium_277.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:11:40 AM PST US From: "Ben Westfall" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from pla Lew how did you get that eyelet end on the hinge pin? -Ben Westfall Hey Bill, There are several creative and beautiful mods out there for this. Here's a couple of pictures of what I did that was simple, cheap, time consuming! With a white painted screw that is countersunk, it almost disappears. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Painting when it's 60+ degrees! Piddling with wiring and avionics. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:35:38 AM PST US From: "Lew Gallagher" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from pla Hey Ben, I just bent the pin around and welded the loop closed, then countersunk it. I riveted the nutplate (the ones with the two rivets on one end and the threads on the other -- I don't have the number in front of me) to the fiberglass, then glassed in around it for extra strength. A bit of carving out of the fiberglass for the recess, and making a small guide hole for the pin (coated the pin with vaseline and glassed around it) and it fits very well. To remove it, take the screw out, rotate the "ear" of the pin out so you can get a grip on it, and just pull it out. To make the pin slide in and out easier, I flatted a space on the pin with a hammer before I cut it to length, stuck it in a drill and used it to ream out the hing ears slightly until it ran in and out smoothly. I know, I know, but it works really well! Later, - Lew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Westfall" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:09 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from pla > > Lew how did you get that eyelet end on the hinge pin? > > -Ben Westfall ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:25:00 PM PST US From: Bill Mauledriver Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Cowl knuckles - are fabrication directions missing from pla Very nice Lew. I've decided the cowling is not a place for me to express myself. I have to confess to not being able to grok the whole cowling hinge pin operation until I finally started doing 47-7 step 6. After reading it and re-reading it, I self diagnosed brain constipation and soldiered on until finally reaching 47-7 step 6. What a relief. I'm hitting the order button for the Vans part as I write. Thanks Bill "looking forward to the engine baffles" Watson 40605 Lew Gallagher wrote: > > Hey Bill, > > There are several creative and beautiful mods out there for this. Here's a couple of pictures of what I did that was simple, cheap, time consuming! > With a white painted screw that is countersunk, it almost disappears. > > Later, - Lew > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Painting when it's 60+ degrees! > Piddling with wiring and avionics. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249803#249803 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/pin1_medium_334.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/white_pin1_medium_277.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:45:40 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RV10-List: Emailing: IMG_1291, IMG_1292, IMG_1290 Here are some pictures of the O2 bottle installed. It can be removed completely in less than 5 minutes and cost of components was less than $200. Regulator will arrive Friday. If anyone wants details or sources please contact me directly via email. As you can see the E bottle aluminum fits nicely on top of the tunnel cover. I never liked any unsecured item as getting hit in the head with an object launched by turbulence is unnerving. Although I already have 2 Skyox 50 cu ft systems, I did not want to buy another $600 system. Do not archive. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:55:20 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fuel tank leak testing From: "Ron B." Just tested with 100LL two days ago. I had already air tested them when I completed them , but wanted to test them with fuel before painting them. So far so good. I mounted a tubing on the vent line and bent it upward a couple inches. As the fuel temperature rose the fuel level also rose. When fuel came out the raised vent, I would assume this would be a true test. Most of the air should be out and tank full of fuel. We had the tanks on saw horses and level. Ron Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249877#249877 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:15:43 PM PST US From: "Les Kearney" Subject: RV10-List: Toys for those living in fibreglass hell (or how to find all those missing rivets) Hi Over the past few weeks I have been sanding and fitting, sanding and fitting ad nauseum. The net result is a garage full of fibreglass dust that I don't like sweeping. Being the lazy soul that I am, she who must be obeyed bought an IRobot Dirt Dog for the garage. It has done a wonderful job of picking up all the dust on the floor without shooting it back into the air. This little device really does work like a charm. It doesn't like odd shaped or larger pieces of AL or f/g but it does a very nice job of picking most everything else. It can be seen at: http://store.irobot.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2475131 Cheers Les #40643 - If this is a metal a/c, why does it have so much ^&%*$^%) f/g ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:27 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RV10-List: carpet Carpet dimensions Baggage Front 40.25" Depth 29" Rear 33.75" Front seat floors 29.5 by 20.375 Rear seat floors 20.25" by 18.625" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.