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1. 03:09 AM - rod end bearing jam nuts (jayb)
2. 05:54 AM - Re: First Flight (nukeflyboy)
3. 05:58 AM - Re: rod end bearing jam nuts (nukeflyboy)
4. 06:55 AM - Re: Re: rod end bearing jam nuts (Kelly McMullen)
5. 07:12 AM - Re: Re: First Flight (Don McDonald)
6. 07:56 AM - Re: Re: First Flight (David McNeill)
7. 07:58 AM - parking at RNO air races (David McNeill)
8. 08:14 AM - NACA vent location(s) in rear (Bob and Karen Brown)
9. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: First Flight (Robin Marks)
10. 08:56 AM - Re: Re: First Flight (Miller John)
11. 09:24 AM - Re: Re: First Flight (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
12. 09:24 AM - Re: Re: First Flight (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
13. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: First Flight (Jesse Saint)
14. 09:57 AM - Re: Re: First Flight (Miller John)
15. 10:13 AM - Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear (Robin Marks)
16. 10:26 AM - Re: Re: First Flight (Deems Davis)
17. 10:27 AM - Re: window fitting - gap between flange and plexi (Rob Kochman)
18. 10:28 AM - Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear (Deems Davis)
19. 12:41 PM - Re: Re: First Flight (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
20. 01:38 PM - Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? (Rob Kochman)
21. 02:13 PM - Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? (Lew Gallagher)
22. 02:28 PM - Rivet Head Products soon available from Rod Bower Aviation (Lee Otto)
23. 02:46 PM - Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? (Rob Kermanj)
24. 03:22 PM - Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? (aerosport1)
25. 03:44 PM - Re: Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? (Robin Marks)
26. 03:46 PM - Re: Wing Bolt Installation made easy or at least precise (cjay)
27. 03:52 PM - Re: Re: rod end bearing jam nuts (McGann, Ron)
28. 03:53 PM - Fw: Vertical Power feedback (pascal)
29. 04:00 PM - Re: Wing Bolt Installation made easy or at least precise (Bob Turner)
30. 04:26 PM - Re: Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? (Rob Kermanj)
31. 05:13 PM - Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? (Marcus Cooper)
32. 06:08 PM - Re: Vertical Power feedback (dmaib@mac.com)
33. 06:11 PM - Re: Re: Wing Bolt Installation made easy or at least precise (Kelly McMullen)
34. 06:11 PM - Re: Fw: Vertical Power feedback (Les Kearney)
35. 06:14 PM - Re: Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? (Patrick Pulis)
36. 06:23 PM - Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear (Patrick Pulis)
37. 06:27 PM - Re: Vertical Power feedback (dmaib@mac.com)
38. 06:36 PM - Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? (Bob Leffler)
39. 06:44 PM - Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? (Rene)
40. 06:48 PM - insulation (tganster)
41. 06:51 PM - Re: Vertical Power feedback (johngoodman)
42. 06:52 PM - Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear (Bob Leffler)
43. 06:56 PM - Re: Re: First Flight (Don McDonald)
44. 07:03 PM - Re: insulation (johngoodman)
45. 07:32 PM - Re: Re: First Flight (John Cumins)
46. 07:33 PM - ()
47. 08:08 PM - Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear (Bob and Karen Brown)
48. 10:16 PM - Re: Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? (Miller John)
49. 10:35 PM - Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear (Miller John)
50. 11:20 PM - Re: Wing Bolt Installation made easy or at least precise (AirMike)
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| Subject: | rod end bearing jam nuts |
I don't recall this topic being discussed, but may have just missed it...
Is there a source for deducing the proper torque required for securing rod end
bearing jam nuts? There may be several different values to consider as aileron
fasteners use smaller sized nuts than for torque tubes.
Thanks in advance for any pointers.
Regards,
Jay
Looking forward to working on something other than baffles
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
Don,
Congratulations again. You have really been putting in the hours since you got
back. Keep us posted on your temperature problem. Being in TX it gets stinking
hot here in the summer and I am a bit concerned about my temps. I ordered
an AirFlow oil cooler thru Alex. It has more cooling surface area but has the
same footprint. The common solution to heat is adding more vent louvers. That
seems so inelegant and I'm hoping that your agile mind will come up with a
better fix. So there is a challenge for you!
Wendy and I are in the mountains of CO with the RV-6 and on our way to Yellowstone
and then Johnson Creek, ID. Sure wish I had the 10 completed because it is
crowded in the 6 with all the camping gear.
You need to get those gear leg fairings on so you can go really fast!
do not archive
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Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
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| Subject: | Re: rod end bearing jam nuts |
I don't recall ever seeing separate torque specs for jam nuts. I have always made
them snug. Don't use an oversized wrench and make them tool tight. If you
are concerned then use a crow's foot and the same torque value for the standard
size nut.
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RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
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| Subject: | Re: rod end bearing jam nuts |
That would be crow's foot with calculation to account for the added leverage
to arrive at torque value for standard nut.....which will be noticeably
smaller number. In reality, if the nut is snug enough if you can't loosen
with your fingers. Doesn't take even one flat after contact to be tight
enough.
Had reminder over the weekend of overtorque. Tried to remove oil filter on
friends plane, last serviced by a shop. Either they didn't use DC-4, oil or
any lube on the gasket, or applied way too much torque. Likely will take
extraordinary measures to remove.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:57 AM, nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net> wrote:
>
> I don't recall ever seeing separate torque specs for jam nuts. I have
> always made them snug. Don't use an oversized wrench and make them tool
> tight. If you are concerned then use a crow's foot and the same torque
> value for the standard size nut.
>
> --------
> Dave Moore
> RV-6 flying
> RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=250733#250733
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
Thanks for the email.... and yes, up to yesterday, I flew everyday... at le
ast once.- I also ordered a cooler from Alex... should be here this week.
- Will let you know the difference.- Also thinking of some other mods.
Your trip sounds great.- Wish we were with you.- Soon.
By the way, after my first 2 landings,,,,, greased them,,,,- I installed
all the pants and fairings.- I will admit that I left them off just in ca
se I did a booboo.- But so far with over 30 landings, its-been a comple
te nonissue!
It's a little hard for those who know me to believe how conservative I am w
ith the plane.- I did manage to see 187 knots at one point early on, but
the temps here have me way off that mark.-
Take care and have fun.....- Don and Kim
-
Ps.- we may be paying you a visit later this month or next.
--- On Tue, 6/30/09, nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net> wrote:
From: nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
Don,
Congratulations again.- You have really been putting in the hours since y
ou got back.- Keep us posted on your temperature problem.- Being in TX
it gets stinking hot here in the summer and I am a bit concerned about my t
emps.- I ordered an AirFlow oil cooler thru Alex.- It has more cooling
surface area but has the same footprint.- The common solution to heat is
adding more vent louvers.- That seems so inelegant and I'm hoping that yo
ur agile mind will come up with a better fix.- So there is a challenge fo
r you!
Wendy and I are in the mountains of CO with the RV-6 and on our way to Yell
owstone and then Johnson Creek, ID.- Sure wish I had the 10 completed bec
ause it is crowded in the 6 with all the camping gear.
You need to get those gear leg fairings on so you can go really fast!
do not archive
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
What was the speed? ground speed? IAS? TAS? at what altitude and outside
temp?
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
Thanks for the email.... and yes, up to yesterday, I flew everyday... at
least once. I also ordered a cooler from Alex... should be here this week.
Will let you know the difference. Also thinking of some other mods.
Your trip sounds great. Wish we were with you. Soon.
By the way, after my first 2 landings,,,,, greased them,,,, I installed all
the pants and fairings. I will admit that I left them off just in case I
did a booboo. But so far with over 30 landings, its been a complete
nonissue!
It's a little hard for those who know me to believe how conservative I am
with the plane. I did manage to see 187 knots at one point early on, but
the temps here have me way off that mark.
Take care and have fun..... Don and Kim
Ps. we may be paying you a visit later this month or next.
--- On Tue, 6/30/09, nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net> wrote:
From: nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
<http://us.mc537.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=flymoore@charter.net> >
Don,
Congratulations again. You have really been putting in the hours since you
got back. Keep us posted on your temperature problem. Being in TX it gets
stinking hot here in the summer and I am a bit concerned about my temps. I
ordered an AirFlow oil cooler thru Alex. It has more cooling surface area
but has the same footprint. The common solution to heat is adding more vent
louvers. That seems so inelegant and I'm hoping that your agile mind will
come up with a better fix. So there is a challenge for you!
Wendy and I are in the mountains of CO with the RV-6 and on our way to
Yellowstone and then Johnson Creek, ID. Sure wish I had the 10 completed
because it is crowded in the 6 with all the camping gear.
You need to get those gear leg fairings on so you can go really fast!
do not archive
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
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| Subject: | parking at RNO air races |
Just got a note from RNO regards air race parking. I had considered
attending for a couple of days.
"
I have more information regarding the Air Race Tie-down parking this year.
Our rate for single engine tie-down in the dirt is $84.80. You do not taxi
in or out of the dirt we have an experienced line guy that does all the
towing in and out of the dirt. We also have limited ramp parking for single
engine aircraft and the rate for that is $106.00. The rates I have just
quoted you are a flat fee from September 16 - 21. If you would like to
reserve a tie-down we are asking for payment in advance. I will need to get
a credit card number and a mailing address so I can send you a copy of your
parking receipt. Please if you have any questions give me a call at
775-825-6400.
Thank you,
Chrissy
Jet West Reno"
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| Subject: | NACA vent location(s) in rear |
Can anyone post a pic of where you located the NACA vents to run air to
overhead console vents? Are you happy with the location and do you have any
problem with moisture?
Thanks!
Bob Brown
Independence, OR
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
I don't think adding louvers is an inelegant solution at all. If the
lower cowl does not have enough outlet area it does not have enough
outlet area. Since we are not incorporating cowl flaps into the -10
either adding louvers or cutting back a portion of the lower cowl are
ones only real options to increase said opening. Of these I prefer
adding the louvers as their design (not the vans louvers) may help suck
the air out the bottom of the cowl.
An inelegant solution is having to add the louvers after the plane had
been painted. Both inelegant and painful!
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nukeflyboy
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:50 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
Don,
Congratulations again. You have really been putting in the hours since
you got back. Keep us posted on your temperature problem. Being in TX
it gets stinking hot here in the summer and I am a bit concerned about
my temps. I ordered an AirFlow oil cooler thru Alex. It has more
cooling surface area but has the same footprint. The common solution to
heat is adding more vent louvers. That seems so inelegant and I'm
hoping that your agile mind will come up with a better fix. So there is
a challenge for you!
Wendy and I are in the mountains of CO with the RV-6 and on our way to
Yellowstone and then Johnson Creek, ID. Sure wish I had the 10
completed because it is crowded in the 6 with all the camping gear.
You need to get those gear leg fairings on so you can go really fast!
do not archive
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
For what it's worth, my bird has just the stock Van's louvers and my
cooling is working fine.
Good baffling and sealing upper side (like Tim suggested) and climb at
120kts works fine.
grumpy
N184JM & 100 hrs
On Jun 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> I don't think adding louvers is an inelegant solution at all. If the
> lower cowl does not have enough outlet area it does not have enough
> outlet area. Since we are not incorporating cowl flaps into the -10
> either adding louvers or cutting back a portion of the lower cowl are
> ones only real options to increase said opening. Of these I prefer
> adding the louvers as their design (not the vans louvers) may help
> suck
> the air out the bottom of the cowl.
> An inelegant solution is having to add the louvers after the plane had
> been painted. Both inelegant and painful!
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nukeflyboy
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:50 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
>
>
> Don,
>
> Congratulations again. You have really been putting in the hours
> since
> you got back. Keep us posted on your temperature problem. Being in
> TX
> it gets stinking hot here in the summer and I am a bit concerned about
> my temps. I ordered an AirFlow oil cooler thru Alex. It has more
> cooling surface area but has the same footprint. The common
> solution to
> heat is adding more vent louvers. That seems so inelegant and I'm
> hoping that your agile mind will come up with a better fix. So
> there is
> a challenge for you!
>
> Wendy and I are in the mountains of CO with the RV-6 and on our way to
> Yellowstone and then Johnson Creek, ID. Sure wish I had the 10
> completed because it is crowded in the 6 with all the camping gear.
>
> You need to get those gear leg fairings on so you can go really fast!
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Dave Moore
> RV-6 flying
> RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
do you fly where it is hot and humid? cooling is a problem in corpus
christi in the summer time. robert
On Jun 30, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Miller John wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, my bird has just the stock Van's louvers and my
> cooling is working fine.
>
> Good baffling and sealing upper side (like Tim suggested) and climb
> at 120kts works fine.
>
> grumpy
> N184JM & 100 hrs
>
> On Jun 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
>> <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
>>
>> I don't think adding louvers is an inelegant solution at all. If the
>> lower cowl does not have enough outlet area it does not have enough
>> outlet area. Since we are not incorporating cowl flaps into the -10
>> either adding louvers or cutting back a portion of the lower cowl are
>> ones only real options to increase said opening. Of these I prefer
>> adding the louvers as their design (not the vans louvers) may help
>> suck
>> the air out the bottom of the cowl.
>> An inelegant solution is having to add the louvers after the plane
>> had
>> been painted. Both inelegant and painful!
>>
>> Robin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nukeflyboy
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:50 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
>>
>>
>> Don,
>>
>> Congratulations again. You have really been putting in the hours
>> since
>> you got back. Keep us posted on your temperature problem. Being
>> in TX
>> it gets stinking hot here in the summer and I am a bit concerned
>> about
>> my temps. I ordered an AirFlow oil cooler thru Alex. It has more
>> cooling surface area but has the same footprint. The common
>> solution to
>> heat is adding more vent louvers. That seems so inelegant and I'm
>> hoping that your agile mind will come up with a better fix. So
>> there is
>> a challenge for you!
>>
>> Wendy and I are in the mountains of CO with the RV-6 and on our way
>> to
>> Yellowstone and then Johnson Creek, ID. Sure wish I had the 10
>> completed because it is crowded in the 6 with all the camping gear.
>>
>> You need to get those gear leg fairings on so you can go really fast!
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>> --------
>> Dave Moore
>> RV-6 flying
>> RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
true . i just thought the a/c looked cleaner without
On Jun 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> I don't think adding louvers is an inelegant solution at all. If the
> lower cowl does not have enough outlet area it does not have enough
> outlet area. Since we are not incorporating cowl flaps into the -10
> either adding louvers or cutting back a portion of the lower cowl are
> ones only real options to increase said opening. Of these I prefer
> adding the louvers as their design (not the vans louvers) may help
> suck
> the air out the bottom of the cowl.
> An inelegant solution is having to add the louvers after the plane had
> been painted. Both inelegant and painful!
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nukeflyboy
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:50 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
>
>
> Don,
>
> Congratulations again. You have really been putting in the hours
> since
> you got back. Keep us posted on your temperature problem. Being in
> TX
> it gets stinking hot here in the summer and I am a bit concerned about
> my temps. I ordered an AirFlow oil cooler thru Alex. It has more
> cooling surface area but has the same footprint. The common
> solution to
> heat is adding more vent louvers. That seems so inelegant and I'm
> hoping that your agile mind will come up with a better fix. So
> there is
> a challenge for you!
>
> Wendy and I are in the mountains of CO with the RV-6 and on our way to
> Yellowstone and then Johnson Creek, ID. Sure wish I had the 10
> completed because it is crowded in the 6 with all the camping gear.
>
> You need to get those gear leg fairings on so you can go really fast!
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Dave Moore
> RV-6 flying
> RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
It's always a good idea to leave the pants off during the first 15
hours or so to make it easier to keep an eye on the wheels & brakes.
Also, it makes it a lot easier to slow down if you're new to the plane.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 30, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Don McDonald
<building_partner@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the email.... and yes, up to yesterday, I flew
> everyday... at least once. I also ordered a cooler from Alex...
> should be here this week. Will let you know the difference. Also
> thinking of some other mods.
> Your trip sounds great. Wish we were with you. Soon.
> By the way, after my first 2 landings,,,,, greased them,,,, I
> installed all the pants and fairings. I will admit that I left them
> off just in case I did a booboo. But so far with over 30 landings,
> its been a complete nonissue!
> It's a little hard for those who know me to believe how conservative
> I am with the plane. I did manage to see 187 knots at one point
> early on, but the temps here have me way off that mark.
> Take care and have fun..... Don and Kim
>
> Ps. we may be paying you a visit later this month or next.
>
> --- On Tue, 6/30/09, nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net> wrote:
>
> From: nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net>
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 5:50 AM
>
>
> Don,
>
> Congratulations again. You have really been putting in the hours
> since you got back. Keep us posted on your temperature problem.
> Being in TX it gets stinking hot here in the summer and I am a bit
> concerned about my temps. I ordered an AirFlow oil cooler thru
> Alex. It has more cooling surface area but has the same footprint.
> The common solution to heat is adding more vent louvers. That seems
> so inelegant and I'm hoping that your agile mind will come up with a
> better fix. So there is a challenge for you!
>
> Wendy and I are in the mountains of CO with the RV-6 and on our way
> to Yellowstone and then Johnson Creek, ID. Sure wish I had the 10
> completed because it is crowded in the 6 with all the camping gear.
>
> You need to get those gear leg fairings on so you can go really fast!
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Dave Moore
> RV-6 flying
> RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=250732#250732
>
>
> http://f= - List Contributionsp;
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
Southern, middle TN where last summer's temps were in 90's with
occasional bump into 100's.
When it's hot, you have to watch the climb speeds as they are key to
cooling.
I try to fly in cooler part of day due to ground cockpit heating as
much as anything.
grumpy
do not archive
On Jun 30, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Robert Brunkenhoefer wrote:
> >
>
> do you fly where it is hot and humid? cooling is a problem in corpus
> christi in the summer time. robert
> On Jun 30, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Miller John wrote:
>
>>
>> For what it's worth, my bird has just the stock Van's louvers and
>> my cooling is working fine.
>>
>> Good baffling and sealing upper side (like Tim suggested) and climb
>> at 120kts works fine.
>>
>> grumpy
>> N184JM & 100 hrs
>>
>> On Jun 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> I don't think adding louvers is an inelegant solution at all. If the
>>> lower cowl does not have enough outlet area it does not have enough
>>> outlet area. Since we are not incorporating cowl flaps into the -10
>>> either adding louvers or cutting back a portion of the lower cowl
>>> are
>>> ones only real options to increase said opening. Of these I prefer
>>> adding the louvers as their design (not the vans louvers) may help
>>> suck
>>> the air out the bottom of the cowl.
>>> An inelegant solution is having to add the louvers after the plane
>>> had
>>> been painted. Both inelegant and painful!
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>>> nukeflyboy
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:50 AM
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
>>>
>>>
>>> Don,
>>>
>>> Congratulations again. You have really been putting in the hours
>>> since
>>> you got back. Keep us posted on your temperature problem. Being
>>> in TX
>>> it gets stinking hot here in the summer and I am a bit concerned
>>> about
>>> my temps. I ordered an AirFlow oil cooler thru Alex. It has more
>>> cooling surface area but has the same footprint. The common
>>> solution to
>>> heat is adding more vent louvers. That seems so inelegant and I'm
>>> hoping that your agile mind will come up with a better fix. So
>>> there is
>>> a challenge for you!
>>>
>>> Wendy and I are in the mountains of CO with the RV-6 and on our
>>> way to
>>> Yellowstone and then Johnson Creek, ID. Sure wish I had the 10
>>> completed because it is crowded in the 6 with all the camping gear.
>>>
>>> You need to get those gear leg fairings on so you can go really
>>> fast!
>>>
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Dave Moore
>>> RV-6 flying
>>> RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | NACA vent location(s) in rear |
Bob,
I am on the road now and don't have a good construction
photo on my notebook but here is an exterior photo that shows the most
common location for the NACA vent. It works great. Some say that you
only need one vent vs. one on each side but as far as I can tell
everyone still installs two vents. The cooling of an OH console is one
of the nicest mods you can do for comfort.
Robin
http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/console.htm
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob and Karen
Brown
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:09 AM
Subject: RV10-List: NACA vent location(s) in rear
Can anyone post a pic of where you located the NACA vents to run air to
overhead console vents? Are you happy with the location and do you have
any problem with moisture?
Thanks!
Bob Brown
Independence, OR
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
When to put the pants/fairings on... that is the question, I intended to
leave them off for most of Phase 1, I was having heating issues early in
to the testing. and became frustrated as most of the 'solutions' yielded
little to no relief. Sine the temps were still well within Lcy's range,
a friend advised me to 'just get on with it and enjoy your airplane, the
temps will take care of themselves. If they aren't better in 25-30 hours
look at it again. I took his advice, and the 1st thing I did was to put
the pants and fairings on. the next flight showed a dramatic drop in
temps. I had 13 hours on the engine by that time and I believe the
engine was 'broke in' as oil consumption had stabilized. It's my opinion
that the added airspeed with the pants/fairings on has a significant
effect on the cooling by increasing the air pressure and flow rates
around the cylinders and through he oil cooler. If some of you are
having temp issues and have not yet put your pants/ fairings on give it
a try and see if your experience is similar.
Deems
N519PJ
www.deemsrv10.com
Jesse Saint wrote:
> It's always a good idea to leave the pants off during the first 15
> hours or so to make it easier to keep an eye on the wheels & brakes.
> Also, it makes it a lot easier to slow down if you're new to the plane.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation
> jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
> 352-427-0285
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 30, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com
> <mailto:building_partner@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the email.... and yes, up to yesterday, I flew everyday...
>> at least once. I also ordered a cooler from Alex... should be here
>> this week. Will let you know the difference. Also thinking of some
>> other mods.
>> Your trip sounds great. Wish we were with you. Soon.
>> By the way, after my first 2 landings,,,,, greased them,,,, I
>> installed all the pants and fairings. I will admit that I left them
>> off just in case I did a booboo. But so far with over 30 landings,
>> its been a complete nonissue!
>> It's a little hard for those who know me to believe how conservative
>> I am with the plane. I did manage to see 187 knots at one point
>> early on, but the temps here have me way off that mark.
>> Take care and have fun..... Don and Kim
>>
>> Ps. we may be paying you a visit later this month or next.
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 6/30/09, nukeflyboy /<flymoore@charter.net
>> <mailto:flymoore@charter.net>>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net <mailto:flymoore@charter.net>>
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 5:50 AM
>>
>> <flymoore@charter.net <mailto:flymoore@charter.net>>
>>
>> Don,
>>
>> Congratulations again. You have really been putting in the hours
>> since you got back. Keep us posted on your temperature problem.
>> Being in TX it gets stinking hot here in the summer and I am a
>> bit concerned about my temps. I ordered an AirFlow oil cooler
>> thru Alex. It has more cooling surface area but has the same
>> footprint. The common solution to heat is adding more vent
>> louvers. That seems so inelegant and I'm hoping that your agile
>> mind will come up with a better fix. So there is a challenge for
>> you!
>>
>> Wendy and I are in the mountains of CO with the RV-6 and on our
>> way to Yellowstone and then Johnson Creek, ID. Sure wish I had
>> the 10 completed because it is crowded in the 6 with all the
>> camping gear.
>>
>> You need to get those gear leg fairings on so you can go really fast!
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>> --------
>> Dave Moore
>> RV-6 flying
>> RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=250732#250732
>>
>>
>> http://f= - List Contributionsp;
>> &bsp;-->
>>
>>
>> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
>>
>>
>> <IMG_3138.JPG>
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| Subject: | Re: window fitting - gap between flange and plexi |
Thanks, all... I called Van's and they also recommended building up the
flange. It looks like it should be necessary on the top and bottom only.
Though annoying, I'm cautiously optimistic it won't be a big deal.
-Rob
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 7:04 PM, John Ackerman <johnag5b@cableone.net>wrote
:
> Gaps like yours make the Weld-On work really miserable, especially on a
> vertical surface. Enough glue to fill the gap will run like crazy and the
n
> the gap is not filled. I had to cut my starboard rear window out with a
> router and start over with a new one. I covered the new window with
> packing tape and wax near the frame, determined the proper number of
> washers/shims to set it out almost flush with the fiberglass ' very sli
ghtly
> (< 1/32") recessed. I then filled between the window and the frame with v
ery
> thick West System epoxy using cabosil and high density filler from West
> system. I held the windows in place with clecoes and bent tabs.
> When the epoxy had mostly set, I removed the windows, let the epoxy cure
> overnight, and cleaned up the mess. This effectively make a good-fitting
> casting that required only a thin and consistent layer of Weld-On. This
> procedure was much easier than trying to do it with just Weld-On. It came
> out nice and was easy to blend to the fiberglass.
> Good luck!
> John Ackerman 40458
>
> On Jun 21, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:
>
> I trimmed one of the rear windows to fit. It looks great on the outside
,
> but on the inside there's a considerable gap (maybe 1/16") between the pl
exi
> and the window flange in places. Is this okay? Does the weld-on fill th
is
> gap, or am I doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks...
>
> -Rob
>
> --
> Rob Kochman
> RV-10 Wings
> Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
> http://kochman.net/N819K
>
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| Subject: | Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear |
Start here:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2043%20Cabin%20Cover/slides/DSC04399.html
and click forward (Next image)
Deems
N519PJ
www.deemsrv10.com
Bob and Karen Brown wrote:
>
> Can anyone post a pic of where you located the NACA vents to run air
> to overhead console vents? Are you happy with the location and do you
> have any problem with moisture?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob Brown
>
> Independence, OR
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
higher climb speed does help a lot. air conditioning does the trick as
i climb to cooler altitude. robert
On Jun 30, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Miller John wrote:
>
> Southern, middle TN where last summer's temps were in 90's with
> occasional bump into 100's.
>
> When it's hot, you have to watch the climb speeds as they are key to
> cooling.
>
> I try to fly in cooler part of day due to ground cockpit heating as
> much as anything.
>
> grumpy
>
> do not archive
>
> On Jun 30, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Robert Brunkenhoefer wrote:
>
>> >
>>
>> do you fly where it is hot and humid? cooling is a problem in
>> corpus christi in the summer time. robert
>> On Jun 30, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Miller John wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, my bird has just the stock Van's louvers and
>>> my cooling is working fine.
>>>
>>> Good baffling and sealing upper side (like Tim suggested) and
>>> climb at 120kts works fine.
>>>
>>> grumpy
>>> N184JM & 100 hrs
>>>
>>> On Jun 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> I don't think adding louvers is an inelegant solution at all. If
>>>> the
>>>> lower cowl does not have enough outlet area it does not have enough
>>>> outlet area. Since we are not incorporating cowl flaps into the -10
>>>> either adding louvers or cutting back a portion of the lower cowl
>>>> are
>>>> ones only real options to increase said opening. Of these I prefer
>>>> adding the louvers as their design (not the vans louvers) may
>>>> help suck
>>>> the air out the bottom of the cowl.
>>>> An inelegant solution is having to add the louvers after the
>>>> plane had
>>>> been painted. Both inelegant and painful!
>>>>
>>>> Robin
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> nukeflyboy
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:50 AM
>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
>>>>
>>>> <flymoore@charter.net>
>>>>
>>>> Don,
>>>>
>>>> Congratulations again. You have really been putting in the hours
>>>> since
>>>> you got back. Keep us posted on your temperature problem. Being
>>>> in TX
>>>> it gets stinking hot here in the summer and I am a bit concerned
>>>> about
>>>> my temps. I ordered an AirFlow oil cooler thru Alex. It has more
>>>> cooling surface area but has the same footprint. The common
>>>> solution to
>>>> heat is adding more vent louvers. That seems so inelegant and I'm
>>>> hoping that your agile mind will come up with a better fix. So
>>>> there is
>>>> a challenge for you!
>>>>
>>>> Wendy and I are in the mountains of CO with the RV-6 and on our
>>>> way to
>>>> Yellowstone and then Johnson Creek, ID. Sure wish I had the 10
>>>> completed because it is crowded in the 6 with all the camping gear.
>>>>
>>>> You need to get those gear leg fairings on so you can go really
>>>> fast!
>>>>
>>>> do not archive
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> Dave Moore
>>>> RV-6 flying
>>>> RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? |
Is Flightline the only game in town when it comes to a full interior for the
RV-10? I'm also curious how their seat upholstry compares to some of the
other options. I can imagine having the seats upholstered professionally
(rather than slipping on something from a kit) would look/fit better.
-Rob
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| Subject: | Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? |
Hey Rob,
FYI, I also had the same questions, so when the interior came, I took it
to my local street rod upholstery shop to see what he thought. He was
impressed with the attention to detail and craftsmanship (he started
talking about types of stitching, etc.) and said there was no way he
could compete with the price since he would have to either start from
scratch as a custom job or destroy Flightline's to get a pattern (not an
option!). That was enough to satisfy my curiosity. And by the way,
whoever makes the covers, they still have to be "slipped on" -- and they
look terrific.
Later, - Lew
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Kochman
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else?
Is Flightline the only game in town when it comes to a full interior
for the RV-10? I'm also curious how their seat upholstry compares to
some of the other options. I can imagine having the seats upholstered
professionally (rather than slipping on something from a kit) would
look/fit better.
-Rob
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| Subject: | Rivet Head Products soon available from Rod Bower Aviation |
There has been so much Rivet Head conversation of late I thought everyone
should know that a very good change is afoot:
RIVET HEAD AERO IS STILL ALIVE AND WELL
SOON TO BE UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT WITH THE SAME AWESOME MACHINE WORK AND PARTS
David Czachorowski has agreed to provide the Rivet Head products thru
ROD BOWER AVIATION along with my RAMAIRFORHOMEBUILTS.COM product line. I
will be maintaining an inventory of David's most popular items.
I plan to set up PAY-PAL billing option that is Invoice Activated when parts
are shipped.
There will be a link to my E-Mail address <mailto:N180RB@GMAIL.COM>
N180RB@GMAIL.COM to handle questions regarding parts and shipping dates.
David has assured me he will take care of existing business by the end of
July.
ROD BOWER
CELL 559-972-6291
<http://www.ramairforhomebuilts.com/> WWW.ramairforhomebuilts.com
<mailto:n180rb@gmail.com> n180rb@gmail.com
Lee Otto
intalling brake, flap and stick controls
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| Subject: | Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? |
I am dropping my plane off to Plane Plastics
http://www.planeplastics.com/ during the first week of August (about a
month) for interior work. They are using my plane to create the
interior paneling for all RV10s.
I have Oregon Aero seats that I like very much but rest of the
interior is bare. I am hoping that with Plane Plastics work, the
interior will finally look finished and not far from a Cirrus'
interior.
Aero Classics sells custom carpets for the Rv10 also. Perhaps with
these three vendors, we will arrive at another viable alternative.
I have copied Chris at Plane Plastics if you need updates and
additional information.
Do not archive
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Rob Kochman<rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is Flightline the only game in town when it comes to a full interior for the
> RV-10? I'm also curious how their seat upholstry compares to some of the
> other options. I can imagine having the seats upholstered professionally
> (rather than slipping on something from a kit) would look/fit better.
>
> -Rob
>
>
--
Rob Kermanj
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| Subject: | Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? |
New RV-10 interior panels coming soon
I am in final development of a complete interior set for the RV-10. It will look
more like the Cirrus and will cover all rivets, nuts and bolts. It will
be able to be left as is in a ABS textured as the airline plastic parts or can
be painted with texture left as is or covered with your favorite material. All
parts are designed in Cad and fit the RV-10 very good. Side panels will be available
from the front all the way to the back baggage compartment bulkhead. Even
a cover for right over the baggage door rivet line.
Also the rear passenger vents will have Automotive type air vents that can be fit
into the side panels and will have a slider knob directly in the center so
you can open and close the vents easily. The tools are complete from for the rear
seats back. We are in the final design stages of the front panels. They will
have an area for a cup holder like the Cirrus that pops out and also a spot
for a fire extinguisher.
I should have picture of the rear panels in a couple weeks.
Geoff Combs
--------
Geoff Combs
RV-10 QB N829GW
Finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? |
One comment... HURRY!
Robin
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerosport1
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:20 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else?
<g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com>
New RV-10 interior panels coming soon
I am in final development of a complete interior set for the RV-10. It
will look more like the Cirrus and will cover all rivets, nuts and
bolts. It will
be able to be left as is in a ABS textured as the airline plastic parts
or can be painted with texture left as is or covered with your favorite
material. All parts are designed in Cad and fit the RV-10 very good.
Side panels will be available from the front all the way to the back
baggage compartment bulkhead. Even a cover for right over the baggage
door rivet line.
Also the rear passenger vents will have Automotive type air vents that
can be fit into the side panels and will have a slider knob directly in
the center so you can open and close the vents easily. The tools are
complete from for the rear seats back. We are in the final design stages
of the front panels. They will have an area for a cup holder like the
Cirrus that pops out and also a spot for a fire extinguisher.
I should have picture of the rear panels in a couple weeks.
Geoff Combs
--------
Geoff Combs
RV-10 QB N829GW
Finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Bolt Installation made easy or at least precise |
any idea where to get LP2 or 3? What is it?
cjay
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| Subject: | Re: rod end bearing jam nuts |
I replaced my oil filter for the first time recently and had one heck of
a time getting it off. I believe it had been installed by lycoming (it
was the original filter) and was waaaay tighter than it needed to be. I
eventually got it off after using an automotive strap style filter
wrench and stubby wrench on the end of the filter, but it did not look
too flash after that.
The new one was installed and properly torqued with the wrench available
from avery (thanks Patrick!).
Cheers
Ron
VH-XRM
Flying in Oz
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McMullen
Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2009 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: rod end bearing jam nuts
That would be crow's foot with calculation to account for the added
leverage
to arrive at torque value for standard nut.....which will be noticeably
smaller number. In reality, if the nut is snug enough if you can't
loosen
with your fingers. Doesn't take even one flat after contact to be tight
enough.
Had reminder over the weekend of overtorque. Tried to remove oil filter
on
friends plane, last serviced by a shop. Either they didn't use DC-4, oil
or
any lube on the gasket, or applied way too much torque. Likely will take
extraordinary measures to remove.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:57 AM, nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net>
wrote:
>
> I don't recall ever seeing separate torque specs for jam nuts. I have
> always made them snug. Don't use an oversized wrench and make them
tool
> tight. If you are concerned then use a crow's foot and the same
torque
> value for the standard size nut.
>
> --------
> Dave Moore
> RV-6 flying
> RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=250733#250733
>
>
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| Subject: | Fw: Vertical Power feedback |
I thought I would share my excellent experience with Marc Ausman from
Vertical Power www.verticalpower.com. One piece of the building I was
regretting was the electrical wiring and how to figure it all out. Marc
had a booth at the Goldenwest fly-in a couple of weekends ago, as well
as a presentation on the benefits of the Vertical power design. Nothing
unusual for a vendor, even one that had people constantly asking
questions about their product, what I found amazing was the patience
Marc had discussing all my questions, something that exceeded 1 hour of
his time dedicated to making sure I was clear on his answers. I have
spent a numerous amount of time at AOPA conferences to know that getting
this level of attention is becoming rare, especially if one looks at a
major GPS company that had as much attention as VP did and really didn't
have more than 5 minutes to tell me to come to their seminar for any
questions. What really is leading me to praise Vertical power is the
fact that Marc told me at Goldenwest and literally followed through
yesterday with going over my planning sheet and practically redoing it
all for the best possible setup, that took over (another) hour of his
time, This level of support which will save me numerous hours if not
days of work if I had followed my "concept" of a working wiring setup.
If there is anyone who is on the fence on whether to use Solid State
circuitry versus the old circuit breaker/fuses concept I encourage you
to seriously look at Vertical Power, they are a little expensive at
first glance but as Jesse covered a year ago, the difference between the
old fashion fuses, and the time to implement it all, versus the Vertical
Power design and additional features is really not all that much in the
end.
They are right on for customer service; they are excellent on
"patiently" answering any questions and the safety benefits of their
product really is not even comparable to anything else out there.
No stock in the company, just sharing a good experience with hopes it
helps anyone out there that will be doing their own electrical wiring
and not sure how to do it.
If you're going to OSH, take the time to talk to Marc, that alone may
convince you!
Pascal
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Bolt Installation made easy or at least precise |
I believe he meant "LPS-2" or "LPS-3". These are spray lubricants available at
many hardware stores (ACE, etc.).
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RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? |
Where have you been?
What is the delivery time and the projected price? Do you have any
progress photos?
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:20 PM,
aerosport1<g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> wrote:
>
> New RV-10 interior panels coming soon
>
> I am in final development of a complete interior set for the RV-10. It will look
more like the Cirrus and will cover all rivets, nuts and bolts. It will
> be able to be left as is in a ABS textured as the airline plastic parts or can
be painted with texture left as is or covered with your favorite material. All
parts are designed in Cad and fit the RV-10 very good. Side panels will be
available from the front all the way to the back baggage compartment bulkhead.
Even a cover for right over the baggage door rivet line.
> Also the rear passenger vents will have Automotive type air vents that can be
fit into the side panels and will have a slider knob directly in the center so
you can open and close the vents easily. The tools are complete from for the
rear seats back. We are in the final design stages of the front panels. They
will have an area for a cup holder like the Cirrus that pops out and also a spot
for a fire extinguisher.
>
> I should have picture of the rear panels in a couple weeks.
>
> Geoff Combs
>
> --------
> Geoff Combs
> RV-10 QB N829GW
> Finishing
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=250850#250850
>
>
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| Subject: | Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? |
Rob,
I went with Flightline for everything except the seats. I got the seats
covered by a local guy that does hotrod upholstery and he did a great job at
a much better price (although still not cheap). You might want to look into
options like that. The flightline interior fit like a glove and was well
worth it thanks to the ease of installation.
The only problem I've had with the interior is the strip you place around
the windows seems to have shrunk at little and therefore caused the glue to
fail. I'll need to get a new set of the stuff to try again, anyone else
have this problem?
Marcus
40286
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else?
Is Flightline the only game in town when it comes to a full interior for the
RV-10? I'm also curious how their seat upholstry compares to some of the
other options. I can imagine having the seats upholstered professionally
(rather than slipping on something from a kit) would look/fit better.
-Rob
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| Subject: | Re: Vertical Power feedback |
Pascal,
It will be one year next week since I first saw my Vertical Power fired up in my
panel at SteinAir. I spent some time over the 4th of July weekend last year
sitting in the shop at SteinAir doing initial setup on the system. I remember
leaving that first evening and thinking that this was one nice system! First flight
was in November and I now have well over 100 hours on the airplane. I can
report that what you experienced with Marc is the norm at Vertical Power. I
have had no major problems and very few minor issues. Marc and Kevin at VP have
always been fast to respond and have given me great support for those times
I needed help. Marc and his team continue to improve the product. The system is
fantastic and keeps getting better. I believe it is well worth the money.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Bolt Installation made easy or at least precise |
LPS2 or LPS3, common aircraft spray lubes. 2 is lighter, thinner, 3 is more
for corrosion protection, thicker oil.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:45 PM, cjay <cgfinney@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> any idea where to get LP2 or 3? What is it?
>
> cjay
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=250855#250855
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Vertical Power feedback |
Hi
I have to echo these comments - Marc has been very helpful in
designing my electrical system. I have had more than a few calls with
him - he is a great resource with an equally stellar product.
Cheers
Les
#40643
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On 2009-06-30, at 4:52 PM, pascal <pascal@rv10builder.net> wrote:
> I thought I would share my excellent experience with Marc Ausman
> from Vertical Power www.verticalpower.com. One piece of the building
> I was regretting was the electrical wiring and how to figure it all
> out. Marc had a booth at the Goldenwest fly-in a couple of weekends
> ago, as well as a presentation on the benefits of the Vertical power
> design. Nothing unusual for a vendor, even one that had people
> constantly asking questions about their product, what I found
> amazing was the patience Marc had discussing all my questions,
> something that exceeded 1 hour of his time dedicated to making sure
> I was clear on his answers. I have spent a numerous amount of time
> at AOPA conferences to know that getting this level of attention is
> becoming rare, especially if one looks at a major GPS company that
> had as much attention as VP did and really didn't have more than 5
> minutes to tell me to come to their seminar for any questions. What
> really is leading me to praise Vertical power is the fact that Marc
> told me at Goldenwest and literally followed through yesterday with
> going over my planning sheet and practically redoing it all for the
> best possible setup, that took over (another) hour of his time,
> This level of support which will save me numerous hours if not days
> of work if I had followed my "concept" of a working wiring setup.
> If there is anyone who is on the fence on whether to use Solid State
> circuitry versus the old circuit breaker/fuses concept I encourage
> you to seriously look at Vertical Power, they are a little expensive
> at first glance but as Jesse covered a year ago, the difference
> between the old fashion fuses, and the time to implement it all,
> versus the Vertical Power design and additional features is really
> not all that much in the end.
> They are right on for customer service; they are excellent on
> "patiently" answering any questions and the safety benefits of their
> product really is not even comparable to anything else out there.
> No stock in the company, just sharing a good experience with hopes
> it helps anyone out there that will be doing their own electrical
> wiring and not sure how to do it.
> If you're going to OSH, take the time to talk to Marc, that alone
> may convince you!
>
> Pascal
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? |
Bring it on!=0A=0ALook forward to seeing the pictures.- Any idea of weigh
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textured as the airline plastic parts or can be painted with texture left
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have a slider knob directly in the center so you can open and close the ve
nts easily. The tools are complete from for the rear seats back. We are in
the final design stages of the front panels. They will have an area for a c
up holder like the Cirrus that pops out and also a spot for a fire extingui
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| Subject: | Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear |
Deems, could you (or anyone else with the overhead fitted) please indicate
if-only one vent would be sufficient to provide enough ram air to the ove
rhead console?=0A=0AHas anyone considered the need to install mesh over the
NACA vent holes to keep out the 'critters' or would foam inserts be suffic
ient when parked, especially when travelling away.- =0A=0AWe have plenty
of little flying 'critters' her 'down under' and no doubt you have similar
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| Subject: | Re: Vertical Power feedback |
I was remiss not to mention that Stein and his team did a great job of actually
building my beautiful panel with the Vertical Power installation. Doug Law, who
was my main contact and the person that helped me work through all of the design
issues, and Dave, who actually built the panel. There were others at SteinAir
that helped as well. Really a first class operation. Of course, my wife
brought homemade cookies and brownies to the shop at strategic times. [Wink]
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RV-10 #40559
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| Subject: | Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? |
Geoff and Aerosport Products will have product shortly too. I know that
Geoff is working hard to make sure that he has new product at OSH to show
folks. He'll be at RV-10 HQ all week. You've seen his carbon fiber panel
that Stein is selling. His other products are of the same quality.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else?
I am dropping my plane off to Plane Plastics
http://www.planeplastics.com/ during the first week of August (about a
month) for interior work. They are using my plane to create the
interior paneling for all RV10s.
I have Oregon Aero seats that I like very much but rest of the
interior is bare. I am hoping that with Plane Plastics work, the
interior will finally look finished and not far from a Cirrus'
interior.
Aero Classics sells custom carpets for the Rv10 also. Perhaps with
these three vendors, we will arrive at another viable alternative.
I have copied Chris at Plane Plastics if you need updates and
additional information.
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Rob Kochman<rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is Flightline the only game in town when it comes to a full interior for
the
> RV-10? I'm also curious how their seat upholstry compares to some of the
> other options. I can imagine having the seats upholstered professionally
> (rather than slipping on something from a kit) would look/fit better.
>
> -Rob
>
>
--
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| Subject: | Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? |
Yep, it shrinks. I glued one piece twice. I love Abbey's work, but
need to
find another trim solution...but then again, flying is fun and who cares
if
the trim falls off. :-)
Rene'
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:05 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else?
Rob,
I went with Flightline for everything except the seats. I got the
seats
covered by a local guy that does hotrod upholstery and he did a great
job at
a much better price (although still not cheap). You might want to look
into
options like that. The flightline interior fit like a glove and was
well
worth it thanks to the ease of installation.
The only problem I've had with the interior is the strip you place
around
the windows seems to have shrunk at little and therefore caused the glue
to
fail. I'll need to get a new set of the stuff to try again, anyone else
have this problem?
Marcus
40286
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else?
Is Flightline the only game in town when it comes to a full interior for
the
RV-10? I'm also curious how their seat upholstry compares to some of
the
other options. I can imagine having the seats upholstered
professionally
(rather than slipping on something from a kit) would look/fit better.
-Rob
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
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Has anyone used anything other than "aircraft" insulation in the floor of their
-10? I am looking for a less expensive alternative.
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| Subject: | Re: Vertical Power feedback |
I have to agree. Marc has patiently talked me through a lot of issues and I trust
him completely. My panel is currently being put together at Aerotronics as
we speak, and he is working closely with them. Couldn't ask for better customer
service.
John
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| Subject: | NACA vent location(s) in rear |
I asked the question about a month ago, so you should be able to find all
the responses in the archive. The consensus was that one naca would
provide more than enough air, but most recommended installing two.
I know of one builder that is installing remote controlled servos to open
and close the scat tube opening at the bulkhead to minimize the excessive
air flow.
I am planning on putting some fiberglass screen to keep the critters at bay.
I'm thinking about installing the screen right at the naca vent to keep the
critters from nesting in the scat tube.
If you haven't purchased your overhead yet, they'll be a new carbon fiber
overhead available soon. Look for details closer to OSH. If you have a
pink canopy, I can guarantee that it will fit perfectly unlike some of the
offerings from other vendors.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: NACA vent location(s) in rear
Deems, could you (or anyone else with the overhead fitted) please indicate
if only one vent would be sufficient to provide enough ram air to the
overhead console?
Has anyone considered the need to install mesh over the NACA vent holes to
keep out the 'critters' or would foam inserts be sufficient when parked,
especially when travelling away.
We have plenty of little flying 'critters' her 'down under' and no doubt you
have similar problems with 'critters' up over?
Regards
Patrick Pulis
Adelaide, South Australia
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From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, 1 July, 2009 2:55:37 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: NACA vent location(s) in rear
Start here:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2043%20Cabin%20Cover/slides/DSC04399.html
and click forward (Next image)
Deems
N519PJ
www.deemsrv10.com
Bob and Karen Brown wrote:
>
> Can anyone post a pic of where you located the NACA vents to run air to
overhead console vents? Are you happy with the location and do you have any
problem with moisture?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob Brown
>
> Independence, OR
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
I was at 5,460', 25sq,-IAS 183, OAT 80, ground speed 215.- Was really f
ocussing my attention on oil temps, cht's, and egt's.
Don
--- On Tue, 6/30/09, David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
From: David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
What was the speed? ground speed? IAS? TAS? at what altitude and outside te
mp?
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
Thanks for the email.... and yes, up to yesterday, I flew everyday... at le
ast once.- I also ordered a cooler from Alex... should be here this week.
- Will let you know the difference.- Also thinking of some other mods.
Your trip sounds great.- Wish we were with you.- Soon.
By the way, after my first 2 landings,,,,, greased them,,,,- I installed
all the pants and fairings.- I will admit that I left them off just in ca
se I did a booboo.- But so far with over 30 landings, its-been a comple
te nonissue!
It's a little hard for those who know me to believe how conservative I am w
ith the plane.- I did manage to see 187 knots at one point early on, but
the temps here have me way off that mark.-
Take care and have fun.....- Don and Kim
-
Ps.- we may be paying you a visit later this month or next.
--- On Tue, 6/30/09, nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net> wrote:
From: nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
Don,
Congratulations again.- You have really been putting in the hours since y
ou got back.- Keep us posted on your temperature problem.- Being in TX
it gets stinking hot here in the summer and I am a bit concerned about my t
emps.- I ordered an AirFlow oil cooler thru Alex.- It has more cooling
surface area but has the same footprint.- The common solution to heat is
adding more vent louvers.- That seems so inelegant and I'm hoping that yo
ur agile mind will come up with a better fix.- So there is a challenge fo
r you!
Wendy and I are in the mountains of CO with the RV-6 and on our way to Yell
owstone and then Johnson Creek, ID.- Sure wish I had the 10 completed bec
ause it is crowded in the 6 with all the camping gear.
You need to get those gear leg fairings on so you can go really fast!
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RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
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Yes, I have. I went with Abesco FP200. It's a foam-in-a-can product similar to
Great Stuff but is infinitely better for airplanes, in my opinion. Sticks to aluminum,
fire proof for hours, doesn't "over expand" like Great Stuff, and gives
a real solid feel to the floors. A can covers about a cubic foot. You will
need a little over two cans to completely fill all four floors.
John
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
Don that's amazing. When you going to come visit all us RVers at the Nut
Tree I will buy lunch. Just give me a call and we can work out the
logistics.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:55 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
I was at 5,460', 25sq, IAS 183, OAT 80, ground speed 215. Was really
focussing my attention on oil temps, cht's, and egt's.
Don
--- On Tue, 6/30/09, David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
From: David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
What was the speed? ground speed? IAS? TAS? at what altitude and outside
temp?
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
Thanks for the email.... and yes, up to yesterday, I flew everyday... at
least once. I also ordered a cooler from Alex... should be here this week.
Will let you know the difference. Also thinking of some other mods.
Your trip sounds great. Wish we were with you. Soon.
By the way, after my first 2 landings,,,,, greased them,,,, I installed all
the pants and fairings. I will admit that I left them off just in case I
did a booboo. But so far with over 30 landings, its been a complete
nonissue!
It's a little hard for those who know me to believe how conservative I am
with the plane. I did manage to see 187 knots at one point early on, but
the temps here have me way off that mark.
Take care and have fun..... Don and Kim
Ps. we may be paying you a visit later this month or next.
--- On Tue, 6/30/09, nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net> wrote:
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Subject: RV10-List: Re: First Flight
<http://us.mc537.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=flymoore@charter.net> >
Don,
Congratulations again. You have really been putting in the hours since you
got back. Keep us posted on your temperature problem. Being in TX it gets
stinking hot here in the summer and I am a bit concerned about my temps. I
ordered an AirFlow oil cooler thru Alex. It has more cooling surface area
but has the same footprint. The common solution to heat is adding more vent
louvers. That seems so inelegant and I'm hoping that your agile mind will
come up with a better fix. So there is a challenge for you!
Wendy and I are in the mountains of CO with the RV-6 and on our way to
Yellowstone and then Johnson Creek, ID. Sure wish I had the 10 completed
because it is crowded in the 6 with all the camping gear.
You need to get those gear leg fairings on so you can go really fast!
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| Subject: | NACA vent location(s) in rear |
I installed an aluminum screen mesh on the naca vent holes on my RV7A, and
would certainly recommend it.no fun having wasps cruising around inside your
airplane on short final.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: NACA vent location(s) in rear
Deems, could you (or anyone else with the overhead fitted) please indicate
if only one vent would be sufficient to provide enough ram air to the
overhead console?
Has anyone considered the need to install mesh over the NACA vent holes to
keep out the 'critters' or would foam inserts be sufficient when parked,
especially when travelling away.
We have plenty of little flying 'critters' her 'down under' and no doubt you
have similar problems with 'critters' up over?
Regards
Patrick Pulis
Adelaide, South Australia
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Sent: Wednesday, 1 July, 2009 2:55:37 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: NACA vent location(s) in rear
Start here:
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Bob and Karen Brown wrote:
>
> Can anyone post a pic of where you located the NACA vents to run air to
overhead console vents? Are you happy with the location and do you have any
problem with moisture?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob Brown
>
> Independence, OR
>
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| Subject: | Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? |
Where were your ideas for us early builders???? (just kidding)
grumpy
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On Jun 30, 2009, at 5:20 PM, aerosport1 wrote:
> >
>
> New RV-10 interior panels coming soon
>
> I am in final development of a complete interior set for the RV-10.
> It will look more like the Cirrus and will cover all rivets, nuts
> and bolts. It will
> be able to be left as is in a ABS textured as the airline plastic
> parts or can be painted with texture left as is or covered with your
> favorite material. All parts are designed in Cad and fit the RV-10
> very good. Side panels will be available from the front all the way
> to the back baggage compartment bulkhead. Even a cover for right
> over the baggage door rivet line.
> Also the rear passenger vents will have Automotive type air vents
> that can be fit into the side panels and will have a slider knob
> directly in the center so you can open and close the vents easily.
> The tools are complete from for the rear seats back. We are in the
> final design stages of the front panels. They will have an area for
> a cup holder like the Cirrus that pops out and also a spot for a
> fire extinguisher.
>
> I should have picture of the rear panels in a couple weeks.
>
> Geoff Combs
>
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> Geoff Combs
> RV-10 QB N829GW
> Finishing
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>
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| Subject: | Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear |
As an early builder, I put 2 home-made scoops (not the NACA vents) on
either side of the fuselage, and just underneath the horizontals (to
keep rain out, ya know).
I also put mesh screen over the intake to keep critters out (as
Patrick asks) and it works! (please don't give me wasps or hornets
flying about as I'm trying to comply with instructions from our
friends in ATC).
After 2 years of my home-made vents, and seeing what the NACA vents
actually do up front, I think that 1 NACA vent aft near the
horizontals will do just fine for amount of flow needed to the
overhead console/vents.
I also found that in winter (S Mid TN) I actually have to plug my
vents up on the outside to keep cold air out of the cockpit......as
well as put a butterfly valve on air supply to the tunnel vent
entrances.....
My 2 cents won't buy a good Pilsner in Adelaide.....
Grumpy
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On Jun 30, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Patrick Pulis wrote:
> Deems, could you (or anyone else with the overhead fitted) please
> indicate if only one vent would be sufficient to provide enough ram
> air to the overhead console?
>
> Has anyone considered the need to install mesh over the NACA vent
> holes to keep out the 'critters' or would foam inserts be sufficient
> when parked, especially when travelling away.
>
> We have plenty of little flying 'critters' her 'down under' and no
> doubt you have similar problems with 'critters' up over?
>
> Regards
>
> Patrick Pulis
> Adelaide, South Australia
>
>
> From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 July, 2009 2:55:37 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: NACA vent location(s) in rear
>
>
> Start here:
>
> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2043%20Cabin%20Cover/slides/DSC04399.html
>
> and click forward (Next image)
>
> Deems
> N519PJ
> www.deemsrv10.com
>
> Bob and Karen Brown wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone post a pic of where you located the NACA vents to run
> air to overhead console vents? Are you happy with the location and
> do you have any problem with moisture?
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Bob Brown
> >
> > Independence, OR
> >
> >
> >
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LPS1 - LPS2 - LPS3
all available from Spencer Aircraft in Washington State
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