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1. 03:54 AM - Re: Re: Wing Bolt Installation made easy or at least precise (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
2. 05:26 AM - Re: insulation (johngoodman)
3. 05:33 AM - Re: Re: Wing Bolt Installation made easy or at least precise (Kelly McMullen)
4. 07:41 AM - Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
5. 08:25 AM - Re: 2009 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping Info (bcondrey)
6. 09:50 AM - Re: Re: insulation (John Cumins)
7. 11:23 AM - Re: insulation (johngoodman)
8. 01:11 PM - Re: Re: Anyone think about speed brakes? (steveg@redmondair.com)
9. 01:46 PM - Re: Re: Anyone think about speed brakes? (Kelly McMullen)
10. 02:27 PM - Re: Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? (Rob Kermanj)
11. 02:50 PM - Re: Trip to Maine (John Testement)
12. 04:05 PM - Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear (Patrick Pulis)
13. 04:05 PM - Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear (Patrick Pulis)
14. 04:06 PM - Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear (Patrick Pulis)
15. 11:07 PM - Official RV10-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
16. 11:14 PM - Official RV10-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Bolt Installation made easy or at least precise |
Use caution using LPS or any silicone based spray lube around the airframe if you
plan to paint anytime soon The residue/overspray from spraying can settle
into the dimples and is a bi$h to properly prep for paint...trust me These products
are taboo in all paint shops. That's why I used a coat of light oil...no
spray silicones
Rick Sked
N246RS
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LPS1 - LPS2 - LPS3
all available from Spencer Aircraft in Washington State
spenceraircraft.com
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Q/B Kit - FWF end game
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OK, I'm attaching photos, but there is not much to see installed. I didn't include
any photos of me with the can, because you probably know how to use Great
Stuff, and it's the same process - The foam (pink) comes out through the wand
and you back the wand out as it fills. I did it with the floors completely riveted
on. For the front floors, just use the many lightening holes under the seat
area and the corner inspection plates. For the rear floors I drilled holes
between each rivet line in the area that is covered by the flap tube cover.
The foam only expands about 1/3rd of G-Stuff and dried pieces of it are slightly
firmer. I tried to use a piece of flexible poly tubing as a wand extension and
it came apart and made a mess (see photo). It cleaned up a little with acetone
but if you just let it dry, you can just snap it off and a light sanding gets
the rest. I had the second wand standing by so it wasn't a problem, but I
would recommend you come up with a longer one piece wand. Another incorrect assumption
I made was that I needed to use the whole can at once. As long as you
clean the wand/trigger (just like on G-stuff) it should still be usable.
They recommend you mist the area with a little water first to get the humidity
up - it helps it expand. I wore a respirator and goggles with gloves for the first
can, but found the respirator in an open garage was unnecessary.
The photos show how it expands out the holes (not as much as I expected). After
it dried, I snapped it off flush with a little effort. The smear in the last
photo simply disappeared with a light sanding.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Bolt Installation made easy or at least precise |
Ah, so that is what Bob's Aircraft evolved into.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:17 PM, AirMike <Mikeabel@pacbell.net> wrote:
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> LPS1 - LPS2 - LPS3
>
> all available from Spencer Aircraft in Washington State
>
> spenceraircraft.com
>
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> OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there someday
> Q/B Kit - FWF end game
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=250911#250911
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| Subject: | NACA vent location(s) in rear |
I have 2 NACA vents located in what looks to be the same place as
Robin's - that is, just aft of the baggage bulkhead and the top is just
below the level of the static ports. These provide more than enough
air. I've thought in retrospect about whether 1 would work but since
the ducts are on the sides of the planes you might be getting uneven
feed. I've never felt any moisture from the OH vents but only have
about 3-4 hours of rain flying time so far.
Bob
N442PM (off to the paint shop next week)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: NACA vent location(s) in rear
Deems, could you (or anyone else with the overhead fitted) please
indicate if only one vent would be sufficient to provide enough ram air
to the overhead console?
Has anyone considered the need to install mesh over the NACA vent holes
to keep out the 'critters' or would foam inserts be sufficient when
parked, especially when travelling away.
We have plenty of little flying 'critters' her 'down under' and no doubt
you have similar problems with 'critters' up over?
Regards
Patrick Pulis
Adelaide, South Australia
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Sent: Wednesday, 1 July, 2009 2:55:37 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: NACA vent location(s) in rear
Start here:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2043%20Cabin%20Cover/slides/DSC04399.html
and click forward (Next image)
Deems
N519PJ
www.deemsrv10.com
Bob and Karen Brown wrote:
>
> Can anyone post a pic of where you located the NACA vents to run air
to overhead console vents? Are you happy with the location and do you
have any problem with moisture?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob Brown
>
> Independence, OR
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| Subject: | Re: 2009 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping Info |
Quick update for everybody. Looks like we're up to about 20 sites so far this
year but there's also usually a last minute rush so my guess is that we'll end
up around 30 again.
I've been sending Tim updates almost daily so his web page at www.myrv10.com/osh/2009_Campsites.html has the most recent information. If your name is shown with colored (non-white) background that means I've received payment. If your name isn't shown please contact me with the requested info.
I've also had a couple of requests for splitting a site (people leaving or arriving
mid-week) and while we can post info to show that, you need to contact others
directly to work something out.
Time is getting short - only 20 days until the sites are staked out!
Bob
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I would be concerned that it could trapoisture from rain over the years ect.
Then you would have a major corrosion problem.
John G. Cumins
President
JC'S Interactive Systems
2499 B1 Martin Rd
Fairfield Ca 94533
707-425-7100
707-425-7576 Fax
Your Total Technology Solution Provider
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:26 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: insulation
OK, I'm attaching photos, but there is not much to see installed. I didn't
include any photos of me with the can, because you probably know how to use
Great Stuff, and it's the same process - The foam (pink) comes out through
the wand and you back the wand out as it fills. I did it with the floors
completely riveted on. For the front floors, just use the many lightening
holes under the seat area and the corner inspection plates. For the rear
floors I drilled holes between each rivet line in the area that is covered
by the flap tube cover.
The foam only expands about 1/3rd of G-Stuff and dried pieces of it are
slightly firmer. I tried to use a piece of flexible poly tubing as a wand
extension and it came apart and made a mess (see photo). It cleaned up a
little with acetone but if you just let it dry, you can just snap it off and
a light sanding gets the rest. I had the second wand standing by so it
wasn't a problem, but I would recommend you come up with a longer one piece
wand. Another incorrect assumption I made was that I needed to use the whole
can at once. As long as you clean the wand/trigger (just like on G-stuff) it
should still be usable.
They recommend you mist the area with a little water first to get the
humidity up - it helps it expand. I wore a respirator and goggles with
gloves for the first can, but found the respirator in an open garage was
unnecessary.
The photos show how it expands out the holes (not as much as I expected).
After it dried, I snapped it off flush with a little effort. The smear in
the last photo simply disappeared with a light sanding.
John
--------
#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started.
N711JG reserved
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It's closed cell and cannot absorb moisture. Trapping moisture between insulation
and the skin would be a problem with any type of insulation. However, Corrosion
X should stop any of that
John
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone think about speed brakes? |
RDD enterprises offers the same speedbrakes for RV-10s that are on the Mooneys.
Go to rddent.com to find out more.
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone think about speed brakes? |
Those of us that fly Mooneys learn that speed brakes are only needed for
turbocharged models that routinely fly near/in the flight levels. Otherwise
reasonable planning/staying ahead of the aircraft is sufficient to arrive in
the pattern at proper speed.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:58 PM, <steveg@redmondair.com> wrote:
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> RDD enterprises offers the same speedbrakes for RV-10s that are on the
> Mooneys. Go to rddent.com to find out more.
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| Subject: | Re: Interior thoughts - Flightline or anything else? |
pictures, pictures!
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:20 PM,
aerosport1<g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> wrote:
>
> New RV-10 interior panels coming soon
>
> I am in final development of a complete interior set for the RV-10. It will look
more like the Cirrus and will cover all rivets, nuts and bolts. It will
> be able to be left as is in a ABS textured as the airline plastic parts or can
be painted with texture left as is or covered with your favorite material. All
parts are designed in Cad and fit the RV-10 very good. Side panels will be
available from the front all the way to the back baggage compartment bulkhead.
Even a cover for right over the baggage door rivet line.
> Also the rear passenger vents will have Automotive type air vents that can be
fit into the side panels and will have a slider knob directly in the center so
you can open and close the vents easily. The tools are complete from for the
rear seats back. We are in the final design stages of the front panels. They
will have an area for a cup holder like the Cirrus that pops out and also a spot
for a fire extinguisher.
>
> I should have picture of the rear panels in a couple weeks.
>
> Geoff Combs
>
> --------
> Geoff Combs
> RV-10 QB N829GW
> Finishing
>
>
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Thanks to everyone who sent suggestions for Maine. We decided not to go this
week due to poor weather but still plan to go in the next week or so. We did
fly over to Eastern TN and found a couple of cool places, especially
Deerfield Resort (TN44). Lots of projects and cool hangers and fun pilots.
John Testement
N311RV
#40321 Flying
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of T.C. Chang
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trip to Maine
Just got back from a trip and read your message. Here is a link to photos we
took at Acadia. It may give you some ideas (I like the last picture is
most).
http://picasaweb.google.com/tc1234c/9252008Acadia#
Martha's Vineyard:
http://picasaweb.google.com/tc1234c/9212008MarthaSVineyardLunch#
Ted
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<http://3limafoxtrot.com/> http://3limafoxtrot.com/
RV-9A, Lycoming (ECI) O320-D2A, 160 hp, Carb, left Mag + right Lightspeed
EI, Sensenich FP
GRT dual DU H1, TT DigiFlight II VSGV, 605 hrs Hobbs
Last flight: <http://www.mail2600.com/cgi-bin/track.cgi?call=KD8IIR&last=1>
http://www.mail2600.com/cgi-bin/track.cgi?call=KD8IIR&last=1
RV10 emp done, #40948, N718PF reserved
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Testement
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Trip to Maine
My wife and I are flying from Richmond VA to Maine next week and are
planning to stop at Nantucket and then to go Bar Harbor and Boothbay. I
would love any recommendations as to what to see and do in Maine of if there
are any other stops that we should make.
_________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear |
Thanks Bob.=0A=0ARegards=0A=0APat=0A=0ADo Not Archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______
_________________________=0AFrom: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baes
ystems.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, 2 July, 2009 12
:07:37 AM=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: NACA vent location(s) in rear=0A=0A=0AI
have 2 NACA vents located in what looks to be the same place as Robin
=99s =93 that is, just aft of the baggage bulkhead and the top is
just below the level of the static ports.=C2- These provide more than eno
ugh air.=C2- I=99ve thought in retrospect about whether 1 would wor
k but since the ducts are on the sides of the planes you might be getting u
neven feed.=C2- I=99ve never felt any moisture from the OH vents bu
t only have about 3-4 hours of rain flying time so far.=0A=C2-=0ABob=0AN4
42PM (off to the paint shop next week)=0A=C2-=0A=0A______________________
__________=0A=0AFrom:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv1
0-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis=0ASent: Tuesday, Ju
ne 30, 2009 8:23 PM=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List:
NACA vent location(s) in rear=0A=C2-=0ADeems, could you (or anyone else
with the overhead fitted) please indicate if=C2-only one vent would be su
fficient to provide enough ram air to the overhead console?=0A=C2-=0AHas
anyone considered the need to install mesh over the NACA vent holes to keep
out the 'critters' or would foam inserts be sufficient when parked, especi
ally when travelling away.=C2- =0A=C2-=0AWe have plenty of little flyin
g 'critters' her 'down under' and no doubt you have similar problems with '
critters' up over?=0A=C2-=0ARegards=0A=C2-=0APatrick Pulis=0AAdelaide,
South Australia=0A=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=0A________________________________
=0A=0AFrom:Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com
=0ASent: Wednesday, 1 July, 2009 2:55:37 AM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: NACA
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)=0A=0ADeems=0AN519PJ=0Awww.deemsrv10.com=0A=0ABob and Karen Brown wrote:
=0A> =0A> Can anyone post a pic of where you located the NACA vents to run
air to overhead console vents?=C2- Are you happy with the location and do
you have any problem with moisture?=0A> =0A>=C2- =0A> Thanks!=0A> =0A> B
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| Subject: | Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear |
More than happy to shout you a "Coopers" or two, or three, or........ for t
hat feedback Grumpy.- Thanks for the response.=0A=0AHope to see you down
under sometime soon.=0A=0ARegards=0A=0APat=0A=0ADo Not Archive=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com>
=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, 1 July, 2009 3:04:21 PM
=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: NACA vent location(s) in rear=0A=0AAs an early b
uilder, I put 2 home-made scoops (not the NACA vents) on either side of the
fuselage, and just underneath the horizontals (to keep rain out, ya know).
=0A=0AI also put mesh screen over the intake to keep critters out (as Patr
ick asks) and it works! (please don't give me wasps or hornets flying about
as I'm trying to comply with instructions from our friends in ATC).=0A=0AA
fter 2 years of my home-made vents, and seeing what the NACA vents actually
do up front, I think that 1 NACA vent aft near the horizontals will do jus
t fine for amount of flow needed to the overhead console/vents.=0A=0AI also
found that in winter (S Mid TN) I actually have to plug my vents up on the
outside to keep cold air out of the cockpit......as well as put a butterfl
y valve on air supply to the tunnel vent entrances.....=0A=0AMy 2 cents won
't buy a good Pilsner in Adelaide.....=0A=0AGrumpy-=0A=0Ado not archive
=0A=0A=0AOn Jun 30, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Patrick Pulis wrote:=0A=0ADeems, coul
d you (or anyone else with the overhead fitted) please indicate if-only o
ne vent would be sufficient to provide enough ram air to the overhead conso
le?=0A>=0A>Has anyone considered the need to install mesh over the NACA ven
t holes to keep out the 'critters' or would foam inserts be sufficient when
parked, especially when travelling away.-=0A>=0A>We have plenty of littl
e flying 'critters' her 'down under' and no doubt you have similar problems
with 'critters' up over?=0A>=0A>Regards=0A>=0A>Patrick Pulis=0A>Adelaide,
South Australia=0A>=0A>-=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A________________________________
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the NACA vents to run air to overhead console vents?- Are you happy with
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| Subject: | Re: NACA vent location(s) in rear |
Many thanks Bob.=0A=0ARegards=0A=0APat=0A=0ADo Not Archive=0A=0A=0A________
________________________=0AFrom: Bob and Karen Brown <bkbrown@minetfiber.co
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| Subject: | Official RV10-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the RV10-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below. The
complete RV10-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV10-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed width font such as
Courier. Proportional fonts will cause display formatting errors. ]
This FAQ can also be viewed in HTML online at the following address:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm
************************************************************
******* LIST POLICIES AND FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS *******
************************************************************
PLEASE READ. This document contains RV10-List policies and information
for new and old subscribers. Understanding the RV10-List policies will
minimize problems for the Administrator, and will help keep the RV10-List
running smoothly for all of us.
******************************************
*** Quick Start Guide to List Features ***
******************************************
There are many features available on the Matronics Email Lists and each
one is described in detailed below. However, using the List Navigator
you can quickly access the complete set of features available for this
List. The List Navigator can be found at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
****************************************
*** How to Subscribe and Unsubscribe ***
****************************************
Simply go to the Web Page shown below and enter your email address and
select the List(s) that you wish to subscribe or unsubscribed from. You
may also use the handy "Find" function to determine the exact syntax of
your email address as it is subscribed to the List. Please see the
complete instructions at the top of the Web Page for more information.
The Subscribe/Unsubscribe web page is:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Note that you will receive TWO conformation emails regarding your subsciption
process. The first verifies that your subscription/unsubsciption request
was received, and the second confirms that the process has been completed.
You should receive the first email within a few minutes of your request.
The second conformation will arrive in less than 24 hours. You cannot post
until you receive the second conformation email message.
*****************************
*** How to Post a Message ***
*****************************
Send an email message to:
rv10-list@matronics.com
Your message will be redistributed to everyone currently subscribed
to the List.
*****************************************************
*** SPAM Fighter - You Must be Subscribed to Post ***
*****************************************************
When a new post is received by the system, the From: line of the message
is checked and compared against the current subscription list. If the
email address is found, the message is passed on to the List Processor.
If the email address isn't found in the current list of subscribers, it
is dumped. This serves to very effectively thwart 99% of the SPAM that
gets posted to the Lists.
Remember, however, that the syntax of your email address is very important
with regard to the configuration of your email application such as Outlook
or Eudora. For example, the following two email addresses may be
functionally equivalent, but only one would pass the Matronics Email SPAM
test depending on which was syntax was subscribed to the given List:
smith@machine.domain.com
smith@domain.com
Either email address syntax is alright, just be sure that you configure
your email application to match *exactly* the address you've subscibed to
the List.
**************************************
*** Enclosure Support on the Lists ***
**************************************
Limited posting of enclosures such as pictures, documents, and spreadsheets
is supported on the Lists. There are a number of restrictions, and these
are detailed below. Please abide by the rules put forth regarding the
content of enclosures.
These are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics
Lists:
1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the Lists.
2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of the Lists.
3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site.
4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.
5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature.
6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed:
bmp doc dwg dxf gif jpg pdf png txt xls
All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to
sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from
a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk.
7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting
to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down
the process of posting the message !!
Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules
could result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists.
1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files
you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there
are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post
30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just
unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture
down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link "Image Resizer"
3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not
post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
questionable. !!
4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members
subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and
BE COURTEOUS!
Also see the section below on the Matronics Photo and File Share where
you can have your files and photos posted on the Matronics web server
for long time viewing and availability.
*******************
*** Digest Mode ***
*******************
Each day, starting at 12 midnight PST US, a new 'digest' will be started.
This digest will contain the same information that is currently appended
to the archive file. It has all of the headers except for the "From:"
and "Subject:" lines removed, and includes a message separator consisting
of a line of underscores.
Each day at 23:55 PST US, the day's messages as described above will be
combined and sent as a single message to everyone on the digest email list.
To subscribe to the digest list, use the same subscription web form
described above, and just select the Digest version of the List.
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Note that you *can* be subscribed to both the realtime and digest versions
of the List at the same time. This is perfectly acceptable.
Now some caveats:
* Messages sent to "rv10-list-digest" will be forwarded to the standard
email list. In other words, you cannot post messages only to the
digest List.
* If you are subscribed to both the regular List and the digest List, you
will receive the realtime postings as well as the digest at the end of
the day.
* If you reply to the digest email, your message will be forwarded to the
normal list associated with the digest. Important Note: Please change
the subject line to reflect the topic of your response! Also, please
*do not include all or most of the digest in your reply*.
****************************
*** List Digest Browser ***
****************************
An archive of all the List Digests can be found online in either plain text
or HTML format. These archives contain the exact Digest that was posted to
the Digest email list on the given day. The Digest Archives can be found
at the following location:
http://www.matronics.com/digest
*****************************************
*** The "DO NOT ARCHIVE" Message Flag ***
*****************************************
At times, your message may concern something that is revelent only to a very
small number of persons or to a limited area, and you may not wish to archive
it. In such a case, simply put the following phrase anywhere in the
message:
do not archive
Your message will not be appended to the archive, but will be sent to List
email distribution as normal.
**********************************************
***** READ THIS - Automatic Unsubscribes *****
**********************************************
Note that if your email address begins to cause problems such as bounced
email, mailbox is filled, or any other errors, your address will be promptly
removed from the List. If you discover that you are no longer receiving
messages from the RV10-List, go to the following Web page, and look
for your email address and a possible reason for your removal.
The Matronics Email List uses utility called the "Email Weasel" that
automatically looks though the day's bounced email for addresses that
caused problems due to common things like "user is unknown", "mailbox
full", etc. If the Email Weasel removes your email address from the
Lists you will find record of it at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/unsubscribed
If the problem listed on the web site above has been resolved, please feel
free to resubscribe to the Lists of your choice.
*******************************
*** List Member Information ***
*******************************
If you have not done so already, please email me your phone numbers and
paper mail address in the following format:
smith@somehost.com
Joe Smith
123 Airport Lane
Tower, CA 91234-1234
098-765-1234 w
123-456-7890 h
Please forward this information to the following email address:
requests@matronics.com
I have a file of such things, that I typically use to contact you when
there are problems with your email address. The information will NOT
be used for any other commercial purpose.
****************************************
*** Realtime Web Email List Browsing ***
****************************************
Recent messages posted to the RV10-List are also made available on
the Web for realtime browsing. Seven days worth of back postings are
available with this feature. The messages can be sorted by Subject,
Author, Date, or Message Thread. The Realtime List Browser indexes are
updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45. You can also reply to a message
or start a new message directly from the List Browser Interface (coming soon).
You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to use the List
Browser Interface in view-mode.
http://www.matronics.com/browselist/rv10-list
*******************************************
*** Web Forums Bulletin Board Interface ***
*******************************************
A phpBB BBS web Forums front end is available for all RV10-List content.
content. The Forums contain all of the same content available via the email
distribution and found on the various archive viewing formats such as the
List Browse, etc. Any posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to the
respective email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted to
the web Forums.
You may view all List content on the Forums without any special login.
If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum interface, however, you
will need to Register. This is a simple process that takes only a few
minutes. A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the
main web Forums page. Note that registering on the Forum web site also
enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well. You will also need to
Subscribe to the respective Email List as described above to receive the
Email Distribution of the List, however.
The Matroincs Email List Web BBS Forums can be found at the following URL:
http://forums.matronics.com
*********************************
*** Matronics Email List Wiki ***
*********************************
In an attempt to make it easy to store and find structured and often accessed
information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at:
http://wiki.matronics.com
The Wiki allows individuals to create web pages to contain useful information
for other users of the mailing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page
where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki
permits the users to construct their own pages and have them visible immediately.
While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be
comfortable building pages. In that case, simply prepare the text and any
images and email it to:
wiki-support@matronics.com
One of the volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct
a Wiki page for you.
Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of the
Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take that
post and convert it into a Wiki page.
*********************
*** List Archives ***
*********************
A file containing of all of the previous postings to the RV10-List is
available on line. The archive file information is available via the
Web and FTP in a number of forms. Each are briefly described below:
* RV10-List.FAQ
- Latest version of the RV10-List Frequently Asked Question
page (this document).
* RV10-Archive.digest.complete
- Complete file with most of the email header info removed and
page breaks inserted between messages.
* RV10-Archive.digest.vol-??
- Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that
can more easily handled.
* RV10-Archive.digest.complete.zip
- Same as the RV10-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
* RV10-Archive.digest.complete.Z
- Same as the RV10-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in
UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
----------------
The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in
a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
Download Via Web
----------------
The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found
toward the bottom of the following web page:
http://www.matronics.com/archives
******************************************
*** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
******************************************
All messages posted to the RV10-List are also available using the
Email List Archive Browsing feature. With this utility, all messages
in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed.
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?RV10
*****************************************
**** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***
*****************************************
You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email List Search Engine
to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the
List. The Engine allows the user to easily search any of the currently
available List archives.
http://www.matronics.com/search
****************************
*** File and Photo Share ***
****************************
With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share pictures
and other data with members of the List without having to forward a
copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos, simply email
them to:
pictures@matronics.com
!! ==> Please including the following information with each submission:
1) Email Lists that they are related to.
2) Your Full Name.
3) Your Email Address.
4) One line Subject description.
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic.
6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file
Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be scanned
for viruses. Please also note that the process of making the files and
photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to
process them every few days.
Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be
sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main
Index Page:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
**************************
*** List Archive CDROM ***
**************************
A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains
all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists. The archives
for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search
engine written by a list member. The CD is burned the day you order it
and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make
great gifts!
http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM
**********************************
*** List Support Contributions ***
**********************************
The Matronics Lists are run *completely* through the support of it members.
You won't find any PopUpAds, flashing Banner ads, or any other form of
annoying commercialism on either the Email Messages or the List web pages
associated with the Matronics Email Lists. Every year during November
I run a low-key, low-pressure "Fund Raiser" where, throughout the month,
I ask List members to make a Contribution in any amount with which they
are comfortable.
I will often offer free gifts with certain contribution levels during the
Fund Raiser to increase the participation. The gifts are usually donated
by companies that are themselves List members.
Your Contributions go directly to supporting the operation of the Lists
including the high-speed, business-class Internet connection, server
system hardware and software upgrades, and to partially offset the many
many hours I spend running, maintaining, upgrading, and developing the
variety of services found here.
Generally Contributions range from $20 to $100 and are completely voluntary
and non-compulsory. I ask only that if person enjoys the Lists and obtains
value from them, that they make a Contribution of equal magnitude.
Contributions are accepted throughout the year, and if you've just
subscribed, feel free to make a Contribution when you've settled in.
The website for making SSL Secure Contributions is listed below. There are
a variety of payment methods including Visa and MasterCard, PayPal, and
sending a personal check.
If you enjoy and value the List, won't you make a Contribution today to
support its continued operation?
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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RV10-List Usage Guidelines
******************************************************************************
The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV10-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV10-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RV10-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV10-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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Dear Listers,
Please read over the RV10-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RV10-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV10-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
******************************************************************************
RV10-List Usage Guidelines
******************************************************************************
The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV10-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV10-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RV10-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV10-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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