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1. 07:10 AM - baggage compartment tie downs (jayb)
2. 07:16 AM - Re: baggage compartment tie downs (Dave Saylor)
3. 07:22 AM - Re: baggage compartment tie downs (David McNeill)
4. 08:41 AM - Re: baggage compartment tie downs (orchidman)
5. 08:57 AM - Pitot cover (orchidman)
6. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: baggage compartment tie downs (David McNeill)
7. 11:54 AM - Dimple wing walk area (nicholscatoauto@aol.com)
8. 01:07 PM - Re: baggage compartment tie downs (AirMike)
9. 01:10 PM - Re: Pitot cover (Tim Olson)
10. 01:18 PM - Re: Pitot cover (AirMike)
11. 01:27 PM - Re: Re: baggage compartment tie downs (David McNeill)
12. 01:41 PM - Re: Dimple wing walk area (Carl Froehlich)
13. 03:09 PM - Re: baggage compartment tie downs (Rene)
14. 03:42 PM - Re: Pitot cover (Miller John)
15. 09:20 PM - Re: Pitot cover (orchidman)
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Subject: | baggage compartment tie downs |
I keep adding distractions to keep me from going back to work on the doors...
How does one keep items stowed in the baggage compartment from bouncing around
and ruining a perfectly good airplane. The plans were pretty silent in that area.
Cargo netting? Strap attach hardpoints?
Cheers,
Jay
... Fun with baffles
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Subject: | Re: baggage compartment tie downs |
Jay,
Please see the third item down at:
http://www.aircraftersllc.com/products.htm
> How does one keep items stowed in the baggage compartment from bouncing
> around and ruining a perfectly good airplane. The plans were pretty silent
> in that area. Cargo netting? Strap attach hardpoints?
>
> -
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
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Subject: | baggage compartment tie downs |
Bungee cords or net, both anchored. See anchors
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jayb
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 7:09 AM
Subject: RV10-List: baggage compartment tie downs
I keep adding distractions to keep me from going back to work on the
doors...
How does one keep items stowed in the baggage compartment from bouncing
around and ruining a perfectly good airplane. The plans were pretty silent
in that area. Cargo netting? Strap attach hardpoints?
Cheers,
Jay
... Fun with baffles
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Subject: | Re: baggage compartment tie downs |
dave.saylor.aircrafters(a wrote:
> Jay,
>
> Please see the third item down at:
>
> http://www.aircraftersllc.com/products.htm (http://www.aircraftersllc.com/products.htm)
>
I would recommend getting 6 from Dave. One each for each corner in the baggage
compartment and one for each side to the passenger footwell. When securing items
in the passenger seats, the seat belts work but they pull rearward. Having
the ability to tie forward is also nice. The tie downs fold down and my Pax
don't notice them at all.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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Well it is summer time and the mud dobbers finally got me.
I have the GRETZ heated pitot tube and yesterday on TO the plane was accelerating
faster then the airspeed. The plane jumped into the air at 60 KIAS. Climb
out I got to about 70. Coming back around for a landing I was doing 50 on downwind
and 0 on turn to final. [Shocked]
Wonder what my miles per gallon flown was [Mr. Green]
Took less then an hour to clean, test and flight check.
Question: What are people using for a pitot cover? I can make one but ACS has
one for $6.95 (#15210) but I am not sure if this one will fit and if it is the
best option.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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Subject: | Re: baggage compartment tie downs |
Its possible to make them using aluminum or stainless hinge of sufficient
width. I made mine for about $10 of material from McMaster Carr plus of
course my labor. The idea of adding them to the rear passenger footwalls is
a good idea. I might add that they could also fit outboard of the rear seat
cushions.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 8:39 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: baggage compartment tie downs
dave.saylor.aircrafters(a wrote:
> Jay,
>
> Please see the third item down at:
>
> http://www.aircraftersllc.com/products.htm
> (http://www.aircraftersllc.com/products.htm)
>
I would recommend getting 6 from Dave. One each for each corner in the
baggage compartment and one for each side to the passenger footwell. When
securing items in the passenger seats, the seat belts work but they pull
rearward. Having the ability to tie forward is also nice. The tie downs
fold down and my Pax don't notice them at all.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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Subject: | Dimple wing walk area |
I started to dimple the wing walk area before I read it should be machine countersunk.
I am hoping someone else dimpled these areas and it worked out fine. My
question is should I continue on and dimple all three layers or buy some new
parts and machine counter sink like it says? What benefit is machine countersinking
in this area? I should know by now to read ahead three times before proceeding.
Thanks for any help,
Jeff Nichols
#40648
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Subject: | Re: baggage compartment tie downs |
Cessna has some nice eye bolts that are like the main aircraft tie-downs under
the wings (lot smaller) but made for #8 screws. They just screw in. It means just
putting in a reinforcement plate and a few flush rivets with a #8 nut plate.
The best part is that they just screw right in or out and you can use cheap
bungee cords with them.
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there someday
Q/B Kit - FWF end game
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I just got one at one of the pilot shops. It's just the red rubber cap, I
think 3/4", that has the "remove before flight" streamer on it.
There were 2 sizes, and I think I bought the larger one. No
big deal. I have the gretz too.
Tim
>
> Well it is summer time and the mud dobbers finally got me.
>
> I have the GRETZ heated pitot tube and yesterday on TO the plane was
> accelerating faster then the airspeed. The plane jumped into the air at
> 60 KIAS. Climb out I got to about 70. Coming back around for a landing I
> was doing 50 on downwind and 0 on turn to final. [Shocked]
> Wonder what my miles per gallon flown was [Mr. Green]
>
> Took less then an hour to clean, test and flight check.
>
> Question: What are people using for a pitot cover? I can make one but
> ACS has one for $6.95 (#15210) but I am not sure if this one will fit and
> if it is the best option.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> (N2GB Flying)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=251461#251461
>
>
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Good flying Gary. After this happens once you will NEVER fail to put a pitot cover
on your plane's pitot head - even in the hanger. The Spruce item with the
velcro works well. Make it a double check part of your check list, especially
on the low wing aircraft. You will also learn that it is important to not just
see that the A/S comes alive on the takeoff roll, but that it correlates to your
approximate speed.
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there someday
Q/B Kit - FWF end game
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Subject: | Re: baggage compartment tie downs |
Had those in my C177RG. The problem with those is that they have to be
offset from the sides/corners to allow insertion/extraction. When unused the
luggage sits atop them. Mine went through the carpet. A hassle to remove and
store. Flat hinges with one side riveted to the floor can lie flat under the
carpet while the other side protrudes to use by bungee cords or nets. Or the
hinges (both sides) can lie flat and unseen beneath the carpet.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 1:07 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: baggage compartment tie downs
Cessna has some nice eye bolts that are like the main aircraft tie-downs
under the wings (lot smaller) but made for #8 screws. They just screw in. It
means just putting in a reinforcement plate and a few flush rivets with a #8
nut plate. The best part is that they just screw right in or out and you can
use cheap bungee cords with them.
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there someday Q/B Kit - FWF end game
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Subject: | Dimple wing walk area |
I think you will be fine dimpling the skin, wing walk doubler and ribs.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (500 hrs)
RV-10 (fuselage)
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
nicholscatoauto@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 2:53 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Dimple wing walk area
I started to dimple the wing walk area before I read it should be machine
countersunk. I am hoping someone else dimpled these areas and it worked out
fine. My question is should I continue on and dimple all three layers or buy
some new parts and machine counter sink like it says? What benefit is
machine countersinking in this area? I should know by now to read ahead
three times before proceeding.
Thanks for any help,
Jeff Nichols
#40648
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Subject: | baggage compartment tie downs |
I supported the friendly kit manufacture......late add to my kit. I used
rivnuts to install.....bungee cords to hold down the load...
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1246744686-468-747&bro
wse=airframe&product=tie-down
Rene'
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jayb
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 8:09 AM
Subject: RV10-List: baggage compartment tie downs
I keep adding distractions to keep me from going back to work on the
doors...
How does one keep items stowed in the baggage compartment from bouncing
around and ruining a perfectly good airplane. The plans were pretty silent
in that area. Cargo netting? Strap attach hardpoints?
Cheers,
Jay
... Fun with baffles
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The "L" shaped one from Spruce works great and for under $10.
Never leave the pitot tube uncovered!!!
Think the surprise had you been heading off into IMC......
grumpy
N184JM
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On Jul 4, 2009, at 10:56 AM, orchidman wrote:
>
> Well it is summer time and the mud dobbers finally got me.
>
> I have the GRETZ heated pitot tube and yesterday on TO the plane was
> accelerating faster then the airspeed. The plane jumped into the
> air at 60 KIAS. Climb out I got to about 70. Coming back around
> for a landing I was doing 50 on downwind and 0 on turn to final.
> [Shocked]
> Wonder what my miles per gallon flown was [Mr. Green]
>
> Took less then an hour to clean, test and flight check.
>
> Question: What are people using for a pitot cover? I can make one
> but ACS has one for $6.95 (#15210) but I am not sure if this one
> will fit and if it is the best option.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> (N2GB Flying)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=251461#251461
>
>
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gengrumpy(at)aol.com wrote:
> The "L" shaped one from Spruce works great and for under $10.
>
> Never leave the pitot tube uncovered!!!
>
> Think the surprise had you been heading off into IMC......
>
> grumpy
> N184JM
>
I knew I would need a cover but put off getting one. Right now I have some of
the blue painters tape keeping the little guys out with a tail hanging about to
the floor. Monday, I will order the larger of the 2 sizes.
Thanks.
Before my first flight there were several of the 'airport bums' [Wink] asking
when was I going to do my high speed taxing and I would reply back Van's thoughts
about not doing them. This plane accelerates so fast that I cross check
the engine instruments while watching outside until almost rotate speed and then
check the airspeed indicator. It was low but not that low so I did what the
plane told me it wanted to do. I felt safer flying the plane then trying to
do a high speed abort on the runway.
With my past training and the flying of my -10, I feel comfortable flying the plane
by the seat of my pants, sounds and visual cues.
For new pilots, I sure hope that your flight instructors give you good training
on partial panel, including full loss of airspeed. You never know when it will
be used.
Mine went up to about 70 KIAS and then did a genital decrease to zero.
The comment about if I was in the soup, well I would fly the plane first and then
later on, with my 496, bring up the instrument screen. It has a GPS airspeed
which would give you something in the ball park. Combine that with the winds
for the airport and you should be within 10 knots, more then safe for lowering
flaps and starting an approach.
This is a great plane !!!!
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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