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     1. 04:34 AM - Re: LSE cooling (orchidman)
     2. 06:46 AM - RV 10 tail kit for sale (Rlepre)
     3. 07:46 AM - Re: static lines (jayb)
     4. 08:41 AM - High Oil temps (Albert Gardner)
     5. 09:16 AM - 9v LED light srip? (Miller John)
     6. 10:12 AM - Re: 9v LED light srip? (Steve Stella)
     7. 10:12 AM - Re: 9v LED light srip? (Steve Stella)
     8. 12:44 PM - Re: LSE cooling (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
     9. 02:28 PM - bottom skin lap joint (Strasnuts)
    10. 04:09 PM - Re: High Oil temps (Michael Kraus)
    11. 04:44 PM - Re: High Oil temps (James McGrew)
    12. 05:02 PM - Re: bottom skin lap joint (Fred Williams, M.D.)
    13. 06:00 PM - Door latch mod (johngoodman)
    14. 06:05 PM - Re: bottom skin lap joint and phase one complete!!! (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
    15. 07:39 PM - Re: Door latch mod (Linn Walters)
    16. 07:56 PM - Tube Bender (Rob Hunter)
    17. 08:37 PM - Re: High Oil temps (richard sipp)
 
 
 
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      I used a 3/4" long piece of 3/8" I.D. plastic tubing on the LS and then the tubing
      from Stein slipped right over the plastic tubing.  Slit both of them and then
      zip tie them.  Made a very simple, tight, firm connection.
      
      --------
      Gary Blankenbiller
      RV10 - # 40674
      (N2GB Flying)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252923#252923
      
      
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| Subject:  | RV 10 tail kit for sale | 
      
      
      I have an assembled RV10 tail kit for sale.  I can deliver.  Contact me at RLaviation@aol.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252949#252949
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: static lines | 
      
      
      At one point someone gave me some leftover pitot stuff (not sure where it came
      from). It had crappy connectors - nothing metal and sorry cheap plastic. Anything
      that looked cheesy went straight into the trash as this system needs to be
      reliable (my wife always asks!).
      
      I ordered the safeair1 kit from www.safeair1.com/index.htm. Nice stuff... but I have dual GRT AHRS and needed additional fittings than were supplied. Most of what was needed, I found (and ordered) from McMaster-Carr. Also ended up ordering a couple of multi-manifold fittings from Stein although McMaster has some too.
      
      It's best to inventory everything and then figure out what's missing before going
      crazy ordering stuff. The attached diagram helped.
      
      Regards,
      Jay
      
      
      5181K234 (Same as 5181K23) - Crack-Resistant Polyethylene Tubing .170" ID, 1/4" OD, .04" Wall Thickness, Green   http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/110/=2qpy9h
      
      http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/170/=2qpruv
      5111K385 	Polybutylene & Brass Push-to-Connect Fitting 90 Deg Elbow for 1/4" Tube
      OD X 1/8" NPT Female
      
      5111K221 	- Polybutylene & Brass Push-to-Connect Fitting Swvl 90 Deg Elbow for
      1/4" Tube OD X 1/8" NPT Male
      
      5111K81 - Polybutylene & Brass Push-to-Connect Fitting Adapter for 1/4" Tube OD
      X 1/8" NPT Male Pipe
      
      5111K271 - Polybutylene & Brass Push-to-Connect Fitting Swivel Branch Tee for 1/4"
      Tube OD X 1/8" NPT Male
      
      Multi-Manifold fittings: http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/171/=2qput3
      
      Clippard TV-2SP - Panel mount static Pitot test switch... 2-way toggle valve w/ 1/8 npt  http://www.clippard.com/store/display_details.asp?sku=TV-2SP
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252955#252955
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/pitotplumbing_912.pdf
      
      
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      I think I have my high oil temps problem under control finally. I previously
      had added a high capacity oil cooler on the right side but still was seeing
      temps climbing too high now that summer is upon us. I added 2
      non-retractable cowl flaps on the bottom. The rectangular opening in the
      cowl is 4 x 9 inches. The opening at the rear is 2 x 4 inches. They are
      non-retractable because the mufflers would interfere. This seems to be a
      final fix. I'll try it tomorrow with daytime temps at 111. Good thing KNYL
      is at 216'. 
      Albert Gardner
      Yuma, AZ
      N991RV
      
      
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| Subject:  | 9v LED light srip? | 
      
      
      
      Some time back I seem to recall seeing one of the parts guys offer for  
      sale LED light strips powered by 9v batteries with a dimmer (which I'm  
      wanting to install under the glare shield).
      
      Does anyone on the new recall who made this offer?
      
      A search of the web hasn't turned anything up.
      
      Thanks - grumpy
      N184JM
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | 9v LED light srip? | 
      
      
      Disregard that, Steins are 12V hard wired
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John
      Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:02 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: 9v LED light srip?
      
      
      
      Some time back I seem to recall seeing one of the parts guys offer for  
      sale LED light strips powered by 9v batteries with a dimmer (which I'm  
      wanting to install under the glare shield).
      
      Does anyone on the new recall who made this offer?
      
      A search of the web hasn't turned anything up.
      
      Thanks - grumpy
      N184JM
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | 9v LED light srip? | 
      
      
      Stein sells them.
      
      
      Steve Stella
      #40654
      Wings
      N521RV reserved
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miller John
      Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:02 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: 9v LED light srip?
      
      
      
      Some time back I seem to recall seeing one of the parts guys offer for  
      sale LED light strips powered by 9v batteries with a dimmer (which I'm  
      wanting to install under the glare shield).
      
      Does anyone on the new recall who made this offer?
      
      A search of the web hasn't turned anything up.
      
      Thanks - grumpy
      N184JM
      
      do not archive
      
      
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      an  adapter from home depot works well. robert brunkenhoefer N661G  
      flying
      On Jul 13, 2009, at 8:53 PM, John Testement wrote:
      
      > >
      >
      > What did you or others use to transition from the cooling fan tubing  
      > to the
      > Lightspeed cooling port
      >
      > John Testement
      > N311RV
      > #40321 Flying
      >
      > Do not archive
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
      > Brunkenhoefer
      > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:49 AM
      > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: RV10-List: LSE cooling
      >
      > --> <rebrunk42@gmail.com>
      >
      > that's what i use. hooking one port to the cooling intake port on  
      > the unit.
      > klaus said to do it that way. robert On Jul 7, 2009, at 12:51 AM,  
      > partner14
      > wrote:
      >
      >> --> <building_partner@yahoo.com
      >>>
      >>
      >> For those of you with the Lightspeed ignition, how are you cooling  
      >> the
      >> main box?  Spruce carries several cooling fans, most with multiple
      >> ports.  Is this the only answer?
      >>
      >> --------
      >> Don A. McDonald
      >> 40636
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Read this topic online here:
      >>
      >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=251881#251881
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
      > 17:55:00
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | bottom skin lap joint | 
      
      
      Did anyone else sand down the bottom skin lap joints similar to the wing skins?
      
      --------
      Cust. #40936
      A&P, ATP
      typed CE-525(s), CE-500
      RV-10 SB Fuselage
      N801VR reserved
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253026#253026
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: High Oil temps | 
      
      
      We did the same thing, but used 2 more of the Vans vents. Same  
      location as you did and got similar results.
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Jul 14, 2009, at 11:35 AM, "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>  
      wrote:
      
      > I think I have my high oil temps problem under control finally. I  
      > previously
      > had added a high capacity oil cooler on the right side but still was  
      > seeing
      > temps climbing too high now that summer is upon us. I added 2
      > non-retractable cowl flaps on the bottom. The rectangular opening in  
      > the
      > cowl is 4 x 9 inches. The opening at the rear is 2 x 4 inches. They  
      > are
      > non-retractable because the mufflers would interfere. This seems to  
      > be a
      > final fix. I'll try it tomorrow with daytime temps at 111. Good  
      > thing KNYL
      > is at 216'.
      > Albert Gardner
      > Yuma, AZ
      > N991RV
      >
      > <FILE0346 (Small).JPG>
      > <FILE0347 (Small).JPG>
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: High Oil temps | 
      
      I did some flying this weekend. I flew from Fort Worth (very hot) to Meadow
      Lake (near Colorado Springs, very high) and back. I have a IO-540D4A5 with
      the standard Van's installation (plus some added louvers just forward of the
      stock louvers). I have had high temperature problems with the cylinder heads
      and the oil in the past while flying this same route. As a technique on this
      trip I climbed at 2500 RPM with full rich mixture. My average rate of climb
      to 10500'/11500' was about 1000 fpm. The average fuel burn rate was 20 gph.
      I climbed at around 105 KIAS. That is a high fuel flow, however, I only
      burned about 3 gallons getting to altitude. The good news is, my CHTs stayed
      below 400 and the oil stayed around 200 for the climb. This will be my climb
      technique until I have a chance to look at additional cowl modifications.
      
      -Jim
      N312JE
      On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Michael Kraus
      <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>wrote:
      
      > >
      >
      > We did the same thing, but used 2 more of the Vans vents. Same location as
      > you did and got similar results.
      >
      > Sent from my iPhone
      >
      >
      > On Jul 14, 2009, at 11:35 AM, "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
      > wrote:
      >
      >   I think I have my high oil temps problem under control finally. I
      >> previously
      >> had added a high capacity oil cooler on the right side but still was
      >> seeing
      >> temps climbing too high now that summer is upon us. I added 2
      >> non-retractable cowl flaps on the bottom. The rectangular opening in the
      >> cowl is 4 x 9 inches. The opening at the rear is 2 x 4 inches. They are
      >> non-retractable because the mufflers would interfere. This seems to be a
      >> final fix. I'll try it tomorrow with daytime temps at 111. Good thing KNYL
      >> is at 216'.
      >> Albert Gardner
      >> Yuma, AZ
      >> N991RV
      >>
      >> <FILE0346 (Small).JPG>
      >> <FILE0347 (Small).JPG>
      >>
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: bottom skin lap joint | 
      
      
      
      I did not .  Figured only a few very anal RV 10 builders would ever 
      notice. 
      
      Is that joint completed on the "quick build option"  ? 
      
      Dr Fred
      
      (Hope nobody catches me looking under the wings on the flight line........)
      
      
      Strasnuts wrote:
      >
      > Did anyone else sand down the bottom skin lap joints similar to the wing skins?
      >
      > --------
      > Cust. #40936
      > A&P, ATP
      > typed CE-525(s), CE-500
      > RV-10 SB Fuselage
      > N801VR reserved
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253026#253026
      >
      >
      >   
      
      
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      I'm looking for two posts from around April of this year. One is about the Staniforth
      Latch on the doors, and the other was an alternative that involved welding
      a "t" onto the handle that went below the rail when closed.
      Have these worked out? And, would you recommend it/them?
      John
      
      --------
      #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started.
      N711JG reserved
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253053#253053
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: bottom skin lap joint and phase one complete!!! | 
      
      
      I did....and I filled/blended the top skin...call me anal...5.and a half years
      building and. about 3000+ hours of a standard build,  painted it myself with help
      of a friend  and phase one hours are complete but we still need to explore
      gross weight testing.
      .Look for pics of N246RS In a week...gotta buff out the paint next week... See
      ya'll at OSH. .Coming in early Saturday before the fork tailed doctor killers
      (V tailed Bonanza's) and spam cans....Oh!!! and keep pounding those rivets...you
      are gonna LOVE this aircraft!!!!  Yuck yuck.....it flys!!!  Sorry for the clandestine
      approach....the local Guvment hates us here... James McClow where are
      you!!!!!!  So I guess I missed out on those first flight kudos huh?
      
      Rick Sked
      N246RS
      
      ------Original Message------
      From: Fred Williams, M.D.
      Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      ReplyTo: Rv
      Sent: Jul 14, 2009 4:57 PM
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: bottom skin lap joint
      
      
      
      I did not .  Figured only a few very anal RV 10 builders would ever 
      notice. 
      
      Is that joint completed on the "quick build option"  ? 
      
      Dr Fred
      
      (Hope nobody catches me looking under the wings on the flight line........)
      
      
      Strasnuts wrote:
      >
      > Did anyone else sand down the bottom skin lap joints similar to the wing skins?
      >
      > --------
      > Cust. #40936
      > A&P, ATP
      > typed CE-525(s), CE-500
      > RV-10 SB Fuselage
      > N801VR reserved
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253026#253026
      >
      >
      >   
      
      
      Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Door latch mod | 
      
      
      What is a Staniforth latch?
      Linn
      do not archive
      johngoodman wrote:
      >
      > I'm looking for two posts from around April of this year. One is about the Staniforth
      Latch on the doors, and the other was an alternative that involved welding
      a "t" onto the handle that went below the rail when closed.
      > Have these worked out? And, would you recommend it/them?
      > John
      >
      > --------
      > #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started.
      > N711JG reserved
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253053#253053
      >
      >
      >   
      
      
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      What size tube bender do you guys recommend.  I am about to bend the
      brake lines and that looks to be 1/4.  How about further down the line
      for bending other lines.
      
      Rob Hunter
      40432 
      Fuselage
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: High Oil temps | 
      
      The recent hot weather has certainly provided a good test environment 
      for our cooling issues.  
      
      I am running Van's oil cooler and the stock cowling outlets and a stock 
      D4A5 with a single Lightspeed.  I usually climb at 2600/full rich and 
      115 KIAS. Prior to this trip, in hot weather, I was seeing an occasional 
      400-410 on cyls 1 & 6. 1st. mod was to open the gap on the wrap around 
      exit cylinder head baffles of 1 and 6 by about .500 inches. and I 
      removed the right side front cylinder air dam.
      
      This past week I departed Salt Lake City and climbed direct to 13,000 in 
      ISA +35 conditions.  Cyls 1 & 6 were running in the 390's.  I have not 
      had much of a problem with the oil temp.  Under these conditions if I 
      remember correctly it went to 190 ish in the climb and then back down to 
      180 in cruise.
      
      I am still wrestling with fuel injector  balance as the engine runs more 
      rough than I would like at more than 20-30 LOP.  At this high altitude 
      and high temp I ended up running about 50 ROP to get the cyls all below 
      380.
      
      Just another data point I guess.
      
      Dick Sipp
      N110DV 160 hours
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: James McGrew 
        To: rv10-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:31 PM
        Subject: Re: RV10-List: High Oil temps
      
      
        I did some flying this weekend. I flew from Fort Worth (very hot) to 
      Meadow Lake (near Colorado Springs, very high) and back. I have a 
      IO-540D4A5 with the standard Van's installation (plus some added louvers 
      just forward of the stock louvers). I have had high temperature problems 
      with the cylinder heads and the oil in the past while flying this same 
      route. As a technique on this trip I climbed at 2500 RPM with full rich 
      mixture. My average rate of climb to 10500'/11500' was about 1000 fpm. 
      The average fuel burn rate was 20 gph. I climbed at around 105 KIAS. 
      That is a high fuel flow, however, I only burned about 3 gallons getting 
      to altitude. The good news is, my CHTs stayed below 400 and the oil 
      stayed around 200 for the climb. This will be my climb technique until I 
      have a chance to look at additional cowl modifications.
      
        -Jim
        N312JE
      
        On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Michael Kraus 
      <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> wrote:
      
      <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
      
          We did the same thing, but used 2 more of the Vans vents. Same 
      location as you did and got similar results.
      
          Sent from my iPhone 
      
      
          On Jul 14, 2009, at 11:35 AM, "Albert Gardner" 
      <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
      
      
            I think I have my high oil temps problem under control finally. I 
      previously
            had added a high capacity oil cooler on the right side but still 
      was seeing
            temps climbing too high now that summer is upon us. I added 2
            non-retractable cowl flaps on the bottom. The rectangular opening 
      in the
            cowl is 4 x 9 inches. The opening at the rear is 2 x 4 inches. 
      They are
            non-retractable because the mufflers would interfere. This seems 
      to be a
            final fix. I'll try it tomorrow with daytime temps at 111. Good 
      thing KNYL
            is at 216'.
            Albert Gardner
            Yuma, AZ
            N991RV
      
      
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