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1. 04:14 AM - Re: Hanger for shoulder belts? (Rob Kermanj)
2. 05:14 AM - Re: Re: Winglts ? (Kelly McMullen)
3. 06:42 AM - Re: Re: Engine Delivery Question (Tim Olson)
4. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: Winglts ? (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
5. 07:40 AM - Re: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer (pascal)
6. 07:54 AM - Re: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer (Bill and Tami Britton)
7. 08:17 AM - david clarks headsets (Rob Kermanj)
8. 08:19 AM - Re: Re: Winglts ? (John Cox)
9. 08:20 AM - OSH RV-10 HQ (bcondrey)
10. 08:33 AM - Re: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer (John Cox)
11. 08:43 AM - Re: OSH RV-10 HQ (John Cox)
12. 10:06 AM - RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? (bcondrey)
13. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: Winglts ? (Robin Marks)
14. 10:42 AM - Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? (Bob Leffler)
15. 11:07 AM - Re: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer (John Cumins)
16. 11:07 AM - Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? (John Cram)
17. 11:41 AM - countersinking wing spars (John Trollinger)
18. 12:37 PM - Crossing the border blues (Les Kearney)
19. 01:10 PM - Re: Crossing the border blues (Tim Olson)
20. 01:23 PM - Re: Crossing the border blues (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
21. 01:55 PM - Re: Crossing the border blues (Rene Felker)
22. 02:13 PM - Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? (Robin Marks)
23. 02:14 PM - Re: Crossing the border blues (Les Kearney)
24. 02:34 PM - Re: Re: Winglts ? (Kelly McMullen)
25. 02:41 PM - Re: Crossing the border blues (Les Kearney)
26. 02:41 PM - Re: Crossing the border blues (Tim Olson)
27. 02:42 PM - Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? (Tim Olson)
28. 02:50 PM - Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? (Kelly McMullen)
29. 02:51 PM - Re: Crossing the border blues (Miller John)
30. 03:13 PM - Door Strap Location (Jeff Carpenter)
31. 03:38 PM - Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? (Chris)
32. 04:23 PM - Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? (Tim Olson)
33. 05:19 PM - Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? (Kelly McMullen)
34. 07:44 PM - Eyeball Vents (Les Kearney)
35. 07:44 PM - GPS Antenna Placement (Les Kearney)
36. 07:53 PM - Re: Door Strap Location (Don McDonald)
37. 07:58 PM - Re: GPS Antenna Placement (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
38. 08:04 PM - Re: GPS Antenna Placement (Deems Davis)
39. 08:11 PM - Re: GPS Antenna Placement (Kelly McMullen)
40. 08:20 PM - Re: GPS Antenna Placement (Les Kearney)
41. 09:40 PM - Re: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer (dogsbark@comcast.net)
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| Subject: | Re: Hanger for shoulder belts? |
Me too.
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On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:14 PM, <karolamy@roadrunner.com> <karolamy@roadrunner.com
> wrote:
>
> Still looking for the response to where did you get the headliner?
> I believe the question goes to Don McDonald who posted the very
> nice picture of the hanger location that prompted the question.
> Others are anxiously waiting!!!
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
>
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Unfortunately, VGs benefits come at a cost of reduced cruise speed. Depends
on airfoil and max speed range. I would not be surprised to see a loss of
3-5 kts from cruise. Fine if you main mission is back country, not so good
if you mainly fly cross country.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:26 PM, John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
>
> Tim James #623 has done a major improvement in both handling and low
> speed flight with his VGs. Others might query at OSH and post their
> impressions here.
>
> The 10 can provide some great, short, soft, H DenAlt landings and
> unimproved surfaces with a few reasonably simple mods.
>
> For many who never leave the asphalt jungle, I understand.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:37 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Winglts ?
>
>
> Yes I'll admit it, I would not add drop down winglets to my -10 if it
> added 15 more knots in cruise and washed itself when it was dirty.
> That being said... John have you seen the clear rubberized VG's on the
> Cessna Columbia's leading edge? Small in profile and difficult to see
> unless you are either looking for them or right up against the wing.
> Also interesting because they are on the forward most portion of the
> leading edge vs. typical VG's further up the curvature of the wing.
> Interesting item.
> I thought that one could design and mold them in 18" sections and just
> link end to end. Then I remembered that one would have to conduct proper
> R&D first. Oh that.....
>
> Robin
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Delivery Question |
Don,
That's one of the things I really like about you...these old
(really really old) methods and concepts have been around
longer than any of us, yet few people remember to use them
in practical daily use. It's a dying art. You're darn
creative with many of the things you do, and think outside
the box a little. I've always appreciated fellow D-I-Y
types. Even though we as airplane builders maybe are more
D-I-Y than the average guy, there is still a lot of
"build it for me, let me buy it"...so it's refreshing to see
another guy who still has the spirit. I try to D-I-Y every
chance I get, and I shed some blood at times working on
car and airplane projects, but it saves money and gives you
a good feeling in the end. I've used PVC pipe and a few
2x4's to move even small buildings across the yard before,
and 3/4" PVC to roll large things in the garage. The
theories of old can make things work out well today!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Don McDonald wrote:
> Just rmember Dave you can always just use pipe, pvc or other, to just
> roll the crate where you want it. I moved a 2,000 milling machine into
> a garage and then up a 12" step into my workshop using pipe.
> Don
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/16/09, nukeflyboy /<flymoore@charter.net>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net>
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Engine Delivery Question
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 4:47 PM
>
> <http://us.mc537.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=flymoore@charter.net>>
>
> Thanks guys - that's what I needed to know. I'll be ready with the
> HF dollies and an engine hoist on standby.
>
> --------
> Dave Moore
> RV-6 flying
> RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
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Thanks for the info I will try and check those items. Robert n661g
130hrs
Sent from my iPhone
Robert E. Brunkenhoefer
Brunkenhoefer Law Firm, P.C.
520 Lawrence St.
Corpus Christi, Texas 78401
Phone: 361-888-8808
Facsimile: 361-888-6753
robert@brunklaw.com
On Jul 16, 2009, at 9:21 PM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> >
>
> This is a first for me. I've used Cleveland brakes almost my whole
> flying life, and find them better than the alternatives. My only
> guess is that you ride the brakes while taxiing (give the brakes a
> tap or two to keep the nose pointed to where you want to go rather
> than constant pressure) ...... or your brakes don't relax when you
> release them. I'd check to make sure the brake cylinder rides on
> the pins freely. They don't need lubrication, which usually just
> gums them up and attracts dirt. Are the pads wearing evenly???
> Uneven wear is a sign of the brake cylinder hanging up on the pins,
> or a mounting problem. Improper break-in could also be a cause.
> Linn
>
> Robert Brunkenhoefer wrote:
>> >
>>
>> Anyone using other than Cleveland brakes mine are getting hot and
>> wearing out too fast.any other brakes recommended or being used?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Robert E. Brunkenhoefer
>> Brunkenhoefer Law Firm, P.C.
>> 520 Lawrence St.
>> Corpus Christi, Texas 78401
>> Phone: 361-888-8808
>> Facsimile: 361-888-6753
>> robert@brunklaw.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer |
Look at the VAF forum and search Stewarts, they had a different name before,
but there are some good reviews out there.
I'll get it but I'm a few months away from needing it.
P
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave Fritzsche (Building)" <fritzsch@eskimo.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer
> <fritzsch@eskimo.com>
>
> I asked this question a while back and got no response. I will try again
> as things may have changed. Has anyone used Stewart Systems Primer Sealer
> to prime the inside of their aircraft? It is water based making it much
> safer for the environment and the person spraying it. It can be seen at
> www.stewartsystems.aero. If you have used it, what is your experience?
> How does it compare to a two-part epoxy primer? I am tempted to try it,
> but would like some user experience reports prior to jumping into the
> water.
>
> Dave
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Dave Fritzsche
> 40813 tail cone nearly finished
> Puyallup, WA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer |
I am using it on my wings. On my tail kit/emp kit (RV-10), I used sherwin
williams Aeropoxy--2 part primer/sealer. Aside from it being a pain to mix
and then let it sit for 30 minutes before sprayed, I like it more than the
water based Stewart Systems. The Stewart systems is harder to get the spray
gun set correctly. When I first started using it I got lots of "blotches".
Finally I got the gun set up and It sprays OK. The nice thing about it is
that it can nearly be sprayed directly out of the container. I've found
that it does take a little water added to get the correct spray consistency.
Please note that I have very little painting experience so others may have
had better luck with the product.
The stewart systems does have good adhesion. Probably nearly as good as the
SW aeropoxy I used.
I'll probably finish the wings with the SS then go back to the SW product on
the fuse.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Fritzsche (Building)" <fritzsch@eskimo.com>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:32 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer
> <fritzsch@eskimo.com>
>
> I asked this question a while back and got no response. I will try
> again as things may have changed. Has anyone used Stewart Systems
> Primer Sealer to prime the inside of their aircraft? It is water based
> making it much safer for the environment and the person spraying it. It
> can be seen at www.stewartsystems.aero. If you have used it, what is
> your experience? How does it compare to a two-part epoxy primer? I am
> tempted to try it, but would like some user experience reports prior to
> jumping into the water.
>
> Dave
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Dave Fritzsche
> 40813 tail cone nearly finished
> Puyallup, WA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
06:08:00
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| Subject: | david clarks headsets |
I am looking for a couple of DC headsets for the rear seats. I have
been cheap and not wanted to spend the money for the occasional rear
passengers. Anyone wanting to upgrade please contact me off line with
model and price.
My only requirements are that they are functional and in decent shape.
do not archive
On Jul 17, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
>
> Me too.
>
> do not archive
> On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:14 PM, <karolamy@roadrunner.com> <karolamy@roadrunner.com
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Still looking for the response to where did you get the headliner?
>> I believe the question goes to Don McDonald who posted the very
>> nice picture of the hanger location that prompted the question.
>> Others are anxiously waiting!!!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Tim (James) did not report that to be the case. His testimony will be
First Person. The manufacturer up in Washington also thought
differently on "certain models of aircraft" so YMMV. I am interested in
hearing from others on the subject who have walked the walk. Any
Columbia/Cessna 400 drivers out there. They put the pressure on Mooney
and upped the ante for "Fastest Certified SEL". It may be found that a
"Faster" laminar flow airfoil must be the first step to trade those
knots you are referencing.
Your position is noted.
Every kit builder should know their mission before beginning the
journey. Getting lost, detoured or discontinuing the course is
unfortunate. See you all at the destination.
John
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McMullen
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Winglts ?
Unfortunately, VGs benefits come at a cost of reduced cruise speed.
Depends on airfoil and max speed range. I would not be surprised to see
a loss of 3-5 kts from cruise. Fine if you main mission is back country,
not so good if you mainly fly cross country.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:26 PM, John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
wrote:
Tim James #623 has done a major improvement in both handling and low
speed flight with his VGs. Others might query at OSH and post their
impressions here.
The 10 can provide some great, short, soft, H DenAlt landings and
unimproved surfaces with a few reasonably simple mods.
For many who never leave the asphalt jungle, I understand.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:37 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Winglts ?
Yes I'll admit it, I would not add drop down winglets to my -10 if it
added 15 more knots in cruise and washed itself when it was dirty.
That being said... John have you seen the clear rubberized VG's on the
Cessna Columbia's leading edge? Small in profile and difficult to see
unless you are either looking for them or right up against the wing.
Also interesting because they are on the forward most portion of the
leading edge vs. typical VG's further up the curvature of the wing.
Interesting item.
I thought that one could design and mold them in 18" sections and just
link end to end. Then I remembered that one would have to conduct proper
R&D first. Oh that.....
Robin
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Looks like we're set for this year - 22 sites total (we'll again have a vacant
site for group cookouts, etc). In addition, Tim will be a row or two east along
with Vic, Scott and maybe a couple other REALLY early arrivers.
http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2009_Campsites.html
If you want to join in there's still a little time - you'll have to use PayPal
to send funds though. There are a few people leaving on the Thursday/Friday before
the last weekend of the show so there's also the possibility of contacting
them to take over a site and still be with the group.
Even if you don't camp in the group we'll be having a couple of big group BBQs
- more info to come.
Bob
N442PM (flying)
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| Subject: | Stewart Systems Primer Sealer |
I attended their class, reviewed the product and determined it is great
for select applications. None of which meet mine for the aluminum &
composite RV-10 in our locale. Others will be happy with it.
I am addicted to acrylic enamels and two part epoxies. The addiction
began forty years ago and the manufacturers have continued to lower the
VOCs and improve the application equipment at exorbitant pricing. IMHO,
skin protection and respiratory supply is a must.
Will watch respectfully when a Stewart Systems aircraft gets a Golden
Lindy.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Fritzsche (Building)
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer
<fritzsch@eskimo.com>
I asked this question a while back and got no response. I will try
again as things may have changed. Has anyone used Stewart Systems
Primer Sealer to prime the inside of their aircraft? It is water based
making it much safer for the environment and the person spraying it. It
can be seen at www.stewartsystems.aero. If you have used it, what is
your experience? How does it compare to a two-part epoxy primer? I am
tempted to try it, but would like some user experience reports prior to
jumping into the water.
Dave
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dave Fritzsche
40813 tail cone nearly finished
Puyallup, WA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I have someone arriving ORD that is trying to "Hook Up" with a wheeled
transportation alternative to Camp Condrey on Monday for the rest of the
entire week. Anyone know of campers with an open spot?
She is the friend of one of the painters here in the NW and has an
option to stay and help AFS with the crowds that will form this year.
John
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:20 AM
Subject: RV10-List: OSH RV-10 HQ
Looks like we're set for this year - 22 sites total (we'll again have a
vacant site for group cookouts, etc). In addition, Tim will be a row or
two east along with Vic, Scott and maybe a couple other REALLY early
arrivers.
http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2009_Campsites.html
If you want to join in there's still a little time - you'll have to use
PayPal to send funds though. There are a few people leaving on the
Thursday/Friday before the last weekend of the show so there's also the
possibility of contacting them to take over a site and still be with the
group.
Even if you don't camp in the group we'll be having a couple of big
group BBQs - more info to come.
Bob
N442PM (flying)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253478#253478
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| Subject: | RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? |
Anybody know anything about this?
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 730WL Make/Model: EXP Description: RV-10
Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Minor
LOCATION
City: CONROE State: TX Country: US
DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GEAR COLLAPSED, CONROE, TX
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
WEATHER: SPECI 161745Z 00000KT 10SM SCT 045 34/22 A3003
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I added VG's to my souped up, mint condition Cherokee 140. The VG's made
a 3-4 MPH difference in the stall speed there by really reducing the
touchdown speed and ground roll. As far as the top end it is difficult
to tell as full power forward was unchanged at a brisk walking pace L
I doubt Columbia drivers will know as they either have them or they
don't. Those certified guys don't take hardware on and off like garage
builders.
I vaguely remember that there was minimal top end loss for some of the
Cessna (high wing) VG packages but again high speeds are not their
forte. When is the last time you saw a 182 fly by? Yawn...
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:19 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Winglts ?
Tim (James) did not report that to be the case. His testimony will be
First Person. The manufacturer up in Washington also thought
differently on "certain models of aircraft" so YMMV. I am interested in
hearing from others on the subject who have walked the walk. Any
Columbia/Cessna 400 drivers out there. They put the pressure on Mooney
and upped the ante for "Fastest Certified SEL". It may be found that a
"Faster" laminar flow airfoil must be the first step to trade those
knots you are referencing.
Your position is noted.
Every kit builder should know their mission before beginning the
journey. Getting lost, detoured or discontinuing the course is
unfortunate. See you all at the destination.
John
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McMullen
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Winglts ?
Unfortunately, VGs benefits come at a cost of reduced cruise speed.
Depends on airfoil and max speed range. I would not be surprised to see
a loss of 3-5 kts from cruise. Fine if you main mission is back country,
not so good if you mainly fly cross country.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:26 PM, John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
wrote:
Tim James #623 has done a major improvement in both handling and low
speed flight with his VGs. Others might query at OSH and post their
impressions here.
The 10 can provide some great, short, soft, H DenAlt landings and
unimproved surfaces with a few reasonably simple mods.
For many who never leave the asphalt jungle, I understand.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:37 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Winglts ?
Yes I'll admit it, I would not add drop down winglets to my -10 if it
added 15 more knots in cruise and washed itself when it was dirty.
That being said... John have you seen the clear rubberized VG's on the
Cessna Columbia's leading edge? Small in profile and difficult to see
unless you are either looking for them or right up against the wing.
Also interesting because they are on the forward most portion of the
leading edge vs. typical VG's further up the curvature of the wing.
Interesting item.
I thought that one could design and mold them in 18" sections and just
link end to end. Then I remembered that one would have to conduct proper
R&D first. Oh that.....
Robin
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| Subject: | RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? |
Isn't that Bill Gipson's RV-10 with the LS-1 in it?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
Anybody know anything about this?
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 730WL Make/Model: EXP Description: RV-10
Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Minor
LOCATION
City: CONROE State: TX Country: US
DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GEAR COLLAPSED, CONROE, TX
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
WEATHER: SPECI 161745Z 00000KT 10SM SCT 045 34/22 A3003
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| Subject: | Stewart Systems Primer Sealer |
Dave
I have used the Primer from Napa Auto Parts. It is a Acid etching primer to
the Alum. Prep process is only to scuff the shine off the metal wash with
soap and water then prime. I get it in rattle can at about $7.50 a can when
I but it in a 6 can case. It works great, is very tuff and I think it is
the cheapest and easiest I have seen out there. Napa manager told me it is
the same as the Sherwin Williams acid etch product they sell in 2 part
product but them oem it to Napa.
Your welcome to contact me it you want more info
John
40864 Assy Elavators, and picked up wings last weekend.
N864FC reserved
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Fritzsche
(Building)
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer
<fritzsch@eskimo.com>
I asked this question a while back and got no response. I will try
again as things may have changed. Has anyone used Stewart Systems
Primer Sealer to prime the inside of their aircraft? It is water based
making it much safer for the environment and the person spraying it. It
can be seen at www.stewartsystems.aero. If you have used it, what is
your experience? How does it compare to a two-part epoxy primer? I am
tempted to try it, but would like some user experience reports prior to
jumping into the water.
Dave
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Dave Fritzsche
40813 tail cone nearly finished
Puyallup, WA
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| Subject: | RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? |
Yes it is. according to FAA N number
> From: rv@thelefflers.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
> Date: Fri=2C 17 Jul 2009 13:47:24 -0400
>
>
> Isn't that Bill Gipson's RV-10 with the LS-1 in it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey
> Sent: Friday=2C July 17=2C 2009 1:06 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
>
>
> Anybody know anything about this?
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 730WL Make/Model: EXP Description: RV-10
> Date: 07/16/2009 Time: 1729
>
> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Minor
>
> LOCATION
> City: CONROE State: TX Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> AIRCRAFT ON LANDING=2C GEAR COLLAPSED=2C CONROE=2C TX
>
> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
> # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
> # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>
> WEATHER: SPECI 161745Z 00000KT 10SM SCT 045 34/22 A3003
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253498#253498
>
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| Subject: | countersinking wing spars |
quick question, I am countersinking the wing spars for the skins and made a
dimpled template to ensure correct depth. With the hole countersunk to
accommodate the dimpled skin it seems the countersink goes very close to all
the way through the spar. Now when I am deburring the other side it is
enlarging the whole a little it seems. Is this normal?
thanks,
John
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| Subject: | Crossing the border blues |
Hi
This is a heads up for anyone on the correct side of the 49th who plans to
head to KOSH. Apparently the CBP section of DHS has changed entry rules
again. I called a nearby port of entry for the current rules and found out
that the Form 178 that had to be faxed last year now has to be filed
electronically. The kicker is that the EAPIS system takes, according to the
website, 5-7 days to issue an ID. Without the ID you can't file the form
which means no flying into the US from Canada.
What is absolutely hilarious is that you have to file notification of your
exit from the US when returning to Canada. I defy anyone to find logic in
that..
Please, please tell me that the mental giants who designed this process
aren't the same ones who are now running the auto / bank / health / .
industries in the US. If they are, God help your economy.
Cheers
Les "hoping for an ID by next Thursday"
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| Subject: | Re: Crossing the border blues |
I know, that eAPIS stuff.....gee whiz! I thought it was hillarious
that in order to LEAVE to go to the Bahamas you'd now be forced
to file with eAPIS. Can you imagine: You're a terrorist who wants
to get out of the U.S., so you decide that you're going to apply
for a CBP account to eAPIS and file your manifest. Really, is
all this process going to stop anyone from doing anything at all?
I think though that you'll find getting your account set up
takes less time than the site quotes. But, if you're
flying in from out of the U.S. I'd suggest getting online TODAY
and starting the process.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
Les Kearney wrote:
> Hi
>
>
>
> This is a heads up for anyone on the correct side of the 49^th who plans
> to head to KOSH. Apparently the CBP section of DHS has changed entry
> rules again. I called a nearby port of entry for the current rules and
> found out that the Form 178 that had to be faxed last year now has to be
> filed electronically. The kicker is that the EAPIS system takes,
> according to the website, 5-7 days to issue an ID. Without the ID you
> cant file the form which means no flying into the US from Canada.
>
>
>
> What is absolutely hilarious is that you have to file notification of
> your exit from the US when returning to Canada. I defy anyone to find
> logic in that.
>
>
>
> Please, please tell me that the mental giants who designed this process
> arent the same ones who are now running the auto / bank / health /
> industries in the US. If they are, God help your economy.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Les hoping for an ID by next Thursday
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Crossing the border blues |
Les,
I had been meaning to set up an account and your email motivated me to
get on it. Interestingly the email activating the account came within
minutes of filling out the initial form online.
Bob
Les Kearney wrote:
> Hi
>
>
>
> This is a heads up for anyone on the correct side of the 49^th who
plans
> to head to KOSH. Apparently the CBP section of DHS has changed entry
> rules again. I called a nearby port of entry for the current rules and
> found out that the Form 178 that had to be faxed last year now has to
be
> filed electronically. The kicker is that the EAPIS system takes,
> according to the website, 5-7 days to issue an ID. Without the ID you
> can't file the form which means no flying into the US from Canada.
>
>
>
> What is absolutely hilarious is that you have to file notification of
> your exit from the US when returning to Canada. I defy anyone to find
> logic in that....
>
>
>
> Please, please tell me that the mental giants who designed this
process
> aren't the same ones who are now running the auto / bank / health /
...
> industries in the US. If they are, God help your economy.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Les "hoping for an ID by next Thursday"
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Crossing the border blues |
Sorry to say, same guys are running the auto/bank/...etc in the us.
How long is the login good for? I am not planning on crossing the boarder
soon, but you never know. Do you think I should get one now just in case I
decide to do A fall trip up to the "correct" side of the 49th?
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Crossing the border blues
Hi
This is a heads up for anyone on the correct side of the 49th who plans to
head to KOSH. Apparently the CBP section of DHS has changed entry rules
again. I called a nearby port of entry for the current rules and found out
that the Form 178 that had to be faxed last year now has to be filed
electronically. The kicker is that the EAPIS system takes, according to the
website, 5-7 days to issue an ID. Without the ID you can't file the form
which means no flying into the US from Canada.
What is absolutely hilarious is that you have to file notification of your
exit from the US when returning to Canada. I defy anyone to find logic in
that..
Please, please tell me that the mental giants who designed this process
aren't the same ones who are now running the auto / bank / health / .
industries in the US. If they are, God help your economy.
Cheers
Les "hoping for an ID by next Thursday"
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| Subject: | RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? |
The gear collapse was either caused by the crew being:
Too Fat or Two Fat Crew as detailed below. You know the FAA and their
abbreviating.
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
Glad no one was hurt.
Robin
Do Not Archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cram
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
Yes it is. according to FAA N number
> From: rv@thelefflers.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:47:24 -0400
>
>
> Isn't that Bill Gipson's RV-10 with the LS-1 in it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:06 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
>
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
> Anybody know anything about this?
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 730WL Make/Model: EXP Description: RV-10
> Date: 07/16/2009 Time: 1729
>
> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Minor
>
> LOCATION
> City: CONROE State: TX Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GEAR COLLAPSED, CONROE, TX
>
> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
> # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
> # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>
> WEATHER: SPECI 161745Z 00000KT 10SM SCT 045 34/22 A3003
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253498#253498
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Crossing the border blues |
Hmmm
The account id showed up in less than an hour. If that is all that it takes
why do they say it "usually arrives in 5-7 days"? Overstating the time
requirements does no one any favours and just causes needless concerns.
Perhaps they are just setting the bar so low anyone can fall over it and
claim to be a hero.
</Rant on>
Anyway, I am glad to hear that the US is now tracking all terrorists who are
leaving the country. I hope they let us know when they are coming north of
the 49th. Then again Janet Napolitano recently claimed that the 911
terrorists entered the US via Canada so I don't hold out much hope...
</Rant off>
Cheers
Les
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: July-17-09 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Crossing the border blues
I know, that eAPIS stuff.....gee whiz! I thought it was hillarious
that in order to LEAVE to go to the Bahamas you'd now be forced
to file with eAPIS. Can you imagine: You're a terrorist who wants
to get out of the U.S., so you decide that you're going to apply
for a CBP account to eAPIS and file your manifest. Really, is
all this process going to stop anyone from doing anything at all?
I think though that you'll find getting your account set up
takes less time than the site quotes. But, if you're
flying in from out of the U.S. I'd suggest getting online TODAY
and starting the process.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
Les Kearney wrote:
> Hi
>
>
>
> This is a heads up for anyone on the correct side of the 49^th who plans
> to head to KOSH. Apparently the CBP section of DHS has changed entry
> rules again. I called a nearby port of entry for the current rules and
> found out that the Form 178 that had to be faxed last year now has to be
> filed electronically. The kicker is that the EAPIS system takes,
> according to the website, 5-7 days to issue an ID. Without the ID you
> can't file the form which means no flying into the US from Canada.
>
>
>
> What is absolutely hilarious is that you have to file notification of
> your exit from the US when returning to Canada. I defy anyone to find
> logic in that..
>
>
>
> Please, please tell me that the mental giants who designed this process
> aren't the same ones who are now running the auto / bank / health / .
> industries in the US. If they are, God help your economy.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Les "hoping for an ID by next Thursday"
>
> *
>
>
> *
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A few brave souls tried them on Mooneys after they were STCd. I believe
universally they removed them, as they cost 5 kts on the laminar flow
wing. Maybe not an issue with the -10, but would be worth some before
and after testing to know.
Robin Marks wrote:
> I added VGs to my souped up, mint condition Cherokee 140. The VGs made
> a 3-4 MPH difference in the stall speed there by really reducing the
> touchdown speed and ground roll. As far as the top end it is difficult
> to tell as full power forward was unchanged at a brisk walking pace L
>
> I doubt Columbia drivers will know as they either have them or they
> dont. Those certified guys dont take hardware on and off like garage
> builders.
>
> I vaguely remember that there was minimal top end loss for some of the
> Cessna (high wing) VG packages but again high speeds are not their
> forte. When is the last time you saw a 182 fly by? Yawn
>
>
>
> Robin
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John Cox
> Tim (James) did not report that to be the case. His testimony will be
> First Person. The manufacturer up in Washington also thought
> differently on "certain models of aircraft" so YMMV.
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| Subject: | Re: Crossing the border blues |
I would do it now and then check what the rules are a month or so
before the trip. I have been going to kosh since 1997 and every year
since 911 the rules change. Usually for the worse.
Cheers
Les
Sent from my iPhone
On 2009-07-17, at 2:41 PM, Rene Felker <rene@felker.com> wrote:
> Sorry to say, same guys are running the auto/bank/..etc in
the us.
>
>
> How long is the login good for? I am not planning on crossing the
> boarder soon, but you never know. Do you think I should get one now
> just in case I decide to do A fall trip up to the =9Ccorrect
=9D side
> of the 49th?
>
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> RV-10 N423CF Flying
>
> 801-721-6080
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:29 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Crossing the border blues
>
>
> Hi
>
>
> This is a heads up for anyone on the correct side of the 49th who
> plans to head to KOSH. Apparently the CBP section of DHS has changed
> entry rules again. I called a nearby port of entry for the current
> rules and found out that the Form 178 that had to be faxed last year
> now has to be filed electronically. The kicker is that the EAPIS
> system takes, according to the website, 5-7 days to issue an ID.
> Without the ID you can=99t file the form which means no flying
into th
> e US from Canada.
>
>
> What is absolutely hilarious is that you have to file notification
> of your exit from the US when returning to Canada. I defy anyone to
> find logic in that.
>
>
> Please, please tell me that the mental giants who designed this
> process aren=99t the same ones who are now running the auto /
bank / h
> ealth / industries in the US. If they are, God help your
economy.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Les =9Choping for an ID by next Thursday=9D
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Crossing the border blues |
If you are planning on doing ANY international flying, it would pay
to get the login. It should be a one-time thing. And, if you
have any possible plans to do international flying, you'll
also need a customs sticker and that can take 4 weeks to
get. So, plan ahead for those things. The customs sticker
is $27.50/yr, so it's cheap enough you could buy one each
year if you think there's a chance you could use it.
It pays to be prepared though. For our Bahamas trip I wanted
to use eAPIS to file the return manifest and the online
setup was complicated enough that I couldn't do it on the
spur of the moment. Getting the customs sticker is kind of
a pain, web wise, too...their site simple sucks. Helpful
people via phone though. Also, if you are thinking Bahamas, or
somewhere NOT Canada, then it takes a short while for the
Radio permits (I got both) too. I was going to try to
just get the one and cheat on the other, but it's a one-time
lifetime fee, so decided the best bet in todays climate is
to be 100% legal.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Rene Felker wrote:
> Sorry to say, same guys are running the auto/bank/..etc in the us.
>
>
>
> How long is the login good for? I am not planning on crossing the
> boarder soon, but you never know. Do you think I should get one now
> just in case I decide to do A fall trip up to the correct side of the
> 49^th ?
>
>
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> RV-10 N423CF Flying
>
> 801-721-6080
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Les Kearney
> *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 1:29 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Crossing the border blues
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> This is a heads up for anyone on the correct side of the 49^th who plans
> to head to KOSH. Apparently the CBP section of DHS has changed entry
> rules again. I called a nearby port of entry for the current rules and
> found out that the Form 178 that had to be faxed last year now has to be
> filed electronically. The kicker is that the EAPIS system takes,
> according to the website, 5-7 days to issue an ID. Without the ID you
> cant file the form which means no flying into the US from Canada.
>
>
>
> What is absolutely hilarious is that you have to file notification of
> your exit from the US when returning to Canada. I defy anyone to find
> logic in that.
>
>
>
> Please, please tell me that the mental giants who designed this process
> arent the same ones who are now running the auto / bank / health /
> industries in the US. If they are, God help your economy.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Les hoping for an ID by next Thursday
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? |
Now THAT is funny......2 FAT.....I didn't even catch that
at first.
What did get me curious though is....there was a crew of
2 in the plane. Was the flyoff complete yet? I hadn't
heard that it had been yet and I know there were many
curious people about any out of the ordinary powerplant.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Robin Marks wrote:
> The gear collapse was either caused by the crew being:
>
>
>
> Too Fat or Two Fat Crew as detailed below. You know the FAA and their
> abbreviating.
>
>
>
>
>
> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
>
> # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>
> # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>
> # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>
>
>
> Glad no one was hurt.
>
>
>
> Robin
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John
> Cram *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 11:03 AM *To:* RV10 LIST
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
>
>
>
> Yes it is. according to FAA N number
>
>> From: rv@thelefflers.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RE:
>> RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009
>> 13:47:24 -0400
>>
>>
>>
>> Isn't that Bill Gipson's RV-10 with the LS-1 in it?
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From:
>> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:06 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
>>
>> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>>
>> Anybody know anything about this?
>>
>> IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 730WL Make/Model: EXP Description: RV-10
>> Date: 07/16/2009 Time: 1729
>>
>> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
>> Damage: Minor
>>
>> LOCATION City: CONROE State: TX Country: US
>>
>> DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GEAR COLLAPSED, CONROE, TX
>>
>> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: #
>> Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>>
>>
>> WEATHER: SPECI 161745Z 00000KT 10SM SCT 045 34/22 A3003
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? |
Will be interesting to learn the details, and whether it was nose gear,
or mains or both. However, it appears that a correct reading is crew 2,
fat 0. So the skinnys crew win.
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Now THAT is funny......2 FAT.....I didn't even catch that
> at first.
>
> What did get me curious though is....there was a crew of
> 2 in the plane. Was the flyoff complete yet? I hadn't
> heard that it had been yet and I know there were many
> curious people about any out of the ordinary powerplant.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> Robin Marks wrote:
>> The gear collapse was either caused by the crew being:
>>
>>
>>
>> Too Fat or Two Fat Crew as detailed below. You know the FAA and their
>> abbreviating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
>>
>> # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>>
>> # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>>
>> # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>>
>>
>>
>> Glad no one was hurt.
>>
>>
>>
>> Robin
>>
>> Do Not Archive
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John
>> Cram *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 11:03 AM *To:* RV10 LIST *Subject:*
>> RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes it is. according to FAA N number
>>
>>> From: rv@thelefflers.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RE:
>>> RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009
>>> 13:47:24 -0400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Isn't that Bill Gipson's RV-10 with the LS-1 in it?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From:
>>> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey
>>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:06 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
>>>
>>> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>>>
>>> Anybody know anything about this?
>>>
>>> IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 730WL Make/Model: EXP Description: RV-10 Date:
>>> 07/16/2009 Time: 1729
>>>
>>> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
>>> Damage: Minor
>>>
>>> LOCATION City: CONROE State: TX Country: US
>>>
>>> DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GEAR COLLAPSED, CONROE, TX
>>>
>>> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: #
>>> Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>>>
>>>
>>> WEATHER: SPECI 161745Z 00000KT 10SM SCT 045 34/22 A3003
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253498#253498
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| Subject: | Re: Crossing the border blues |
Les -no worry that these DHS folks are running the other government
takeovers.
The latest crop of government oversee'ers is worse than DHS, if you
can believe that!
The latest great example is the new "car czar" who is a former hard
line, old time union boss with NO experience running a business......
What are the immigration rules for exiles running north for
freedom .... -:)
grumpy
do not archive
>>
>> To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Crossing the border blues
>> Hi
>> This is a heads up for anyone on the correct side of the 49^th who
>> plans to head to KOSH. Apparently the CBP section of DHS has
>> changed entry rules again. I called a nearby port of entry for the
>> current rules and found out that the Form 178 that had to be faxed
>> last year now has to be filed electronically. The kicker is that
>> the EAPIS system takes, according to the website, 5-7 days to issue
>> an ID. Without the ID you cant file the form which means no flying
>> into the US from Canada.
>> What is absolutely hilarious is that you have to file notification
>> of your exit from the US when returning to Canada. I defy anyone to
>> find logic in that.
>> Please, please tell me that the mental giants who designed this
>> process arent the same ones who are now running the auto / bank /
>> health / industries in the US. If they are, God help your economy.
>> Cheers
>> Les hoping for an ID by next Thursday
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| Subject: | Door Strap Location |
I'm considering a leather strap to pull the door closed... appx 1'
long running along the lower inside edge of the door. The ideal
location for this strap would be both reachable and result in the door
pulling in evenly (fore and aft) when held in the center. It seems to
me that that could be one of two locations... centered in the length
of the door or centered on a line drawn down between the two hinge
points. Does anyone flying have a feel for where that might be?
Jeff Carpenter
40304
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| Subject: | RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? |
Check it out
-Chris
40072
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/090716_experimental_plane_crash
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
Will be interesting to learn the details, and whether it was nose gear,
or mains or both. However, it appears that a correct reading is crew 2,
fat 0. So the skinnys crew win.
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Now THAT is funny......2 FAT.....I didn't even catch that
> at first.
>
> What did get me curious though is....there was a crew of
> 2 in the plane. Was the flyoff complete yet? I hadn't
> heard that it had been yet and I know there were many
> curious people about any out of the ordinary powerplant.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> Robin Marks wrote:
>> The gear collapse was either caused by the crew being:
>>
>>
>>
>> Too Fat or Two Fat Crew as detailed below. You know the FAA and their
>> abbreviating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
>>
>> # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>>
>> # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>>
>> # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>>
>>
>>
>> Glad no one was hurt.
>>
>>
>>
>> Robin
>>
>> Do Not Archive
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John
>> Cram *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 11:03 AM *To:* RV10 LIST *Subject:*
>> RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes it is. according to FAA N number
>>
>>> From: rv@thelefflers.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RE:
>>> RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009
>>> 13:47:24 -0400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Isn't that Bill Gipson's RV-10 with the LS-1 in it?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From:
>>> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey
>>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:06 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
>>>
>>> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>>>
>>> Anybody know anything about this?
>>>
>>> IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 730WL Make/Model: EXP Description: RV-10 Date:
>>> 07/16/2009 Time: 1729
>>>
>>> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
>>> Damage: Minor
>>>
>>> LOCATION City: CONROE State: TX Country: US
>>>
>>> DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GEAR COLLAPSED, CONROE, TX
>>>
>>> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: #
>>> Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>>>
>>>
>>> WEATHER: SPECI 161745Z 00000KT 10SM SCT 045 34/22 A3003
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253498#253498
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? |
Come to think of it I do seem to remember a post that the time
was flown off, so crew of 2 sounds perfectly fine.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Chris wrote:
>
> Check it out
> -Chris
> 40072
> http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/090716_experimental_plane_crash
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:46 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
>
>
> Will be interesting to learn the details, and whether it was nose gear,
> or mains or both. However, it appears that a correct reading is crew 2,
> fat 0. So the skinnys crew win.
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>> Now THAT is funny......2 FAT.....I didn't even catch that
>> at first.
>>
>> What did get me curious though is....there was a crew of
>> 2 in the plane. Was the flyoff complete yet? I hadn't
>> heard that it had been yet and I know there were many
>> curious people about any out of the ordinary powerplant.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Robin Marks wrote:
>>> The gear collapse was either caused by the crew being:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Too Fat or Two Fat Crew as detailed below. You know the FAA and their
>>> abbreviating.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
>>>
>>> # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>>>
>>> # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>>>
>>> # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Glad no one was hurt.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>
>>> Do Not Archive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John
>>> Cram *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 11:03 AM *To:* RV10 LIST *Subject:*
>>> RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes it is. according to FAA N number
>>>
>>>> From: rv@thelefflers.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RE:
>>>> RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009
>>>> 13:47:24 -0400
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Isn't that Bill Gipson's RV-10 with the LS-1 in it?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From:
>>>> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:06 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
>>>>
>>>> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>>>>
>>>> Anybody know anything about this?
>>>>
>>>> IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 730WL Make/Model: EXP Description: RV-10 Date:
>>>> 07/16/2009 Time: 1729
>>>>
>>>> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
>>>> Damage: Minor
>>>>
>>>> LOCATION City: CONROE State: TX Country: US
>>>>
>>>> DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GEAR COLLAPSED, CONROE, TX
>>>>
>>>> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: #
>>>> Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WEATHER: SPECI 161745Z 00000KT 10SM SCT 045 34/22 A3003
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253498#253498
>>>>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? |
Hmm, wonder what damage the foaming did to the "wreck"
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Chris <toaster73@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> Check it out
> -Chris
> 40072
> http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/090716_experimental_plane_crash
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:46 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
>
>
> Will be interesting to learn the details, and whether it was nose gear,
> or mains or both. However, it appears that a correct reading is crew 2,
> fat 0. So the skinnys crew win.
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
> >
> > Now THAT is funny......2 FAT.....I didn't even catch that
> > at first.
> >
> > What did get me curious though is....there was a crew of
> > 2 in the plane. Was the flyoff complete yet? I hadn't
> > heard that it had been yet and I know there were many
> > curious people about any out of the ordinary powerplant.
> >
> > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > Robin Marks wrote:
> >> The gear collapse was either caused by the crew being:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Too Fat or Two Fat Crew as detailed below. You know the FAA and their
> >> abbreviating.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> >>
> >> # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
> >>
> >> # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
> >>
> >> # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Glad no one was hurt.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Robin
> >>
> >> Do Not Archive
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John
> >> Cram *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 11:03 AM *To:* RV10 LIST *Subject:*
> >> RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes it is. according to FAA N number
> >>
> >>> From: rv@thelefflers.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RE:
> >>> RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009
> >>> 13:47:24 -0400
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Isn't that Bill Gipson's RV-10 with the LS-1 in it?
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message----- From:
> >>> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey
> >>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:06 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >>> Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday?
> >>>
> >>> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
> >>>
> >>> Anybody know anything about this?
> >>>
> >>> IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 730WL Make/Model: EXP Description: RV-10 Date:
> >>> 07/16/2009 Time: 1729
> >>>
> >>> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> >>> Damage: Minor
> >>>
> >>> LOCATION City: CONROE State: TX Country: US
> >>>
> >>> DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GEAR COLLAPSED, CONROE, TX
> >>>
> >>> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: #
> >>> Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> WEATHER: SPECI 161745Z 00000KT 10SM SCT 045 34/22 A3003
> >>>
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> >>>
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Hi
I have a bit of a plug or Stien's eyeball vents. I recently purchased the
Aveo vents from ACS and found that they didn't seal very well when closed. I
returned them and ordered the vents from Stein. I was mightily impressed -
they sealed completely with negligible leakage. They are truly well made -
as is claimed on Stien's site.
So if you need vents, my recommendation is to go with Stein.
Cheers
Les
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| Subject: | GPS Antenna Placement |
Hi
As I work my way through canopy hell, I am wondering about the placement of
my GPS antenna. Is there any reason it cannot be mounted on the tail cone,
just aft of the canopy. I understand it should be mounted as high as
possible, but given the canopy is f/g, I was wondering if the tail cone
would be acceptable. Comments front the antenna mavens appreciated.
Inquiring minds need to know.
Les
#40643
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| Subject: | Re: Door Strap Location |
I looked quite a few places and finally found these at an $8.98 store in Ro
seville Ca.- They were perfect, and only $1.98.- I cut them to length,
and then had them sew up.- They work perfect.... so nice to be able-to
just reach up and close the door.
Don McDonald
#40636 - 55 hours FLYING
--- On Fri, 7/17/09, Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com> wrote:
From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Door Strap Location
I'm considering a leather strap to pull the door closed... appx 1' long run
ning along the lower inside edge of the door.- The ideal location for thi
s strap would be both reachable and result in the door pulling in evenly (f
ore and aft) when held in the center.- It seems to me that that could be
one of two locations... centered in the length of the door or centered on a
line drawn down between the two hinge points.- Does anyone flying have a
feel for where that might be?
Jeff Carpenter
40304
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Antenna Placement |
I put the gps antennas in a recess in the center of the canopy
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On Jul 17, 2009, at 7:41 PM, "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> As I work my way through canopy hell, I am wondering about the
> placement of my GPS antenna. Is there any reason it cannot be
> mounted on the tail cone, just aft of the canopy. I understand it
> should be mounted as high as possible, but given the canopy is f/g,
> I was wondering if the tail cone would be acceptable. Comments front
> the antenna mavens appreciated.
>
>
> Inquiring minds need to know.
>
>
> Les
>
> #40643
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Antenna Placement |
Les, I'm not maven, but my gyro stabilized gimble mounted GPS antenna
pylon seems to be working just fine ;-) .
Seriously, I have one GPS antenna mounted on the tailcone just aft of
the fiberglass cabin cover, and the other on the highpoint of the cabin
cover. I haven't noticed a difference in reception.
Deems
Les Kearney wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> As I work my way through canopy hell, I am wondering about the
> placement of my GPS antenna. Is there any reason it cannot be mounted
> on the tail cone, just aft of the canopy. I understand it should be
> mounted as high as possible, but given the canopy is f/g, I was
> wondering if the tail cone would be acceptable. Comments front the
> antenna mavens appreciated.
>
>
>
> Inquiring minds need to know.
>
>
>
> Les
>
> #40643
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Antenna Placement |
Yeah, when are you going to show us your AWACS pylon?
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> Les, I'm not maven, but my gyro stabilized gimble mounted GPS antenna
> pylon seems to be working just fine ;-) .
>
> Seriously, I have one GPS antenna mounted on the tailcone just aft of
> the fiberglass cabin cover, and the other on the highpoint of the cabin
> cover. I haven't noticed a difference in reception.
>
> Deems
>
> Les Kearney wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> As I work my way through canopy hell, I am wondering about the
>> placement of my GPS antenna. Is there any reason it cannot be mounted
>> on the tail cone, just aft of the canopy. I understand it should be
>> mounted as high as possible, but given the canopy is f/g, I was
>> wondering if the tail cone would be acceptable. Comments front the
>> antenna mavens appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Inquiring minds need to know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Les
>>
>> #40643
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | GPS Antenna Placement |
Thanks Deems
Hmmm. I may go with the tail cone as it will be an easier install for me.
Cheers
Les
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: July-17-09 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GPS Antenna Placement
Les, I'm not maven, but my gyro stabilized gimble mounted GPS antenna
pylon seems to be working just fine ;-) .
Seriously, I have one GPS antenna mounted on the tailcone just aft of
the fiberglass cabin cover, and the other on the highpoint of the cabin
cover. I haven't noticed a difference in reception.
Deems
Les Kearney wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> As I work my way through canopy hell, I am wondering about the
> placement of my GPS antenna. Is there any reason it cannot be mounted
> on the tail cone, just aft of the canopy. I understand it should be
> mounted as high as possible, but given the canopy is f/g, I was
> wondering if the tail cone would be acceptable. Comments front the
> antenna mavens appreciated.
>
>
>
> Inquiring minds need to know.
>
>
>
> Les
>
> #40643
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer |
Hi Dave,
I used Stewart Systems=C2-exclusively during my portion of the build.=C2
- =C2-Wings, Fuse, and Emp.=C2- I thought it was great.=C2- If you
see "blotches" it needs thinned.=C2- I think you can thin it up to one th
ird water (that's too much).=C2- I found the key was putting on a very th
in coat first and letting it setup a little before=C2-the next was applie
d.=C2- I would use it again.
I used the cheap touch up gun from Harbor Freight and it was perfect for th
e task.=C2- Clean up was easy, too.
Plenty of pics and some narrative at:=C2- http://websites.expercraft.com/
seanb/
Good luck,
Sean=C2-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Fritzsche (Building)" <fritzsch@eskimo.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:32:04 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: RV10-List: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer
mo.com>
I asked this question a while back and got no response. =C2-I will try
again as things may have changed. =C2-Has anyone used Stewart Systems
Primer Sealer to prime the inside of their aircraft? =C2-It is water base
d
making it much safer for the environment and the person spraying it. =C2-
It
can be seen at www.stewartsystems.aero. =C2-If you have used it, what is
your experience? =C2-How does it compare to a two-part epoxy primer? =C2
-I am
tempted to try it, but would like some user experience reports prior to
jumping into the water.
Dave
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Dave Fritzsche
40813 tail cone nearly finished
Puyallup, WA
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