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1. 05:37 AM - Crossing the border blues - Redux (Les Kearney)
2. 08:39 AM - Crossing the border blues (Albert Gardner)
3. 09:52 AM - Re: Crossing the border blues (Tim Olson)
4. 10:36 AM - Re: Crossing the border blues (Dj Merrill)
5. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: Winglts ? (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
6. 04:18 PM - Re: Re: Winglts ? (Miller John)
7. 04:51 PM - Re: Winglts ? (Lenny Iszak)
8. 05:30 PM - Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? (johngoodman)
9. 05:46 PM - Second Battery location (johngoodman)
10. 05:58 PM - gear collapse (David McNeill)
11. 06:20 PM - Extra battery (David McNeill)
12. 06:34 PM - Re: Second Battery location (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
13. 06:56 PM - Re: Crossing the border blues (Jesse Saint)
14. 07:42 PM - Re: Crossing the border blues (Tim Olson)
15. 08:54 PM - Re: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer (ddnebert)
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| Subject: | Crossing the border blues - Redux |
Hi Again
While skimming an EAA newsletter email tonight, I just found out that the
eAPIS system is not the only system that we foreigners have to contend with
when entering the US. Apparently, there is also a TSA airspace waiver. The
link to this website is below:
http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/tsnm/general_aviation/airspace_waiver_forms.sh
tm
>From what I can see, it appears that this waiver is not required for a/c
with a transponder. Has anyone had experience with this system and if so can
you confirm that it does not apply light singles.
Cheers
Les
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| Subject: | Crossing the border blues |
Last year you could pay for the US Customs sticker when you landed back in
the US as opposed to applying for it in advance. 2 new problems for me when
flying to Mexico: Mexican insurance for experimentals through Baja Bush
Pilots took a jump from $100/yr to $400/yr and in October 406 ELT's are
mandatory down there. Also, a new requirement to have the hitherto ignored
radiotelephone operators license with you. If you have one of these you
might be an old guy.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
PS: I've also heard something about a new requirement for a station license
for the plane.
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| Subject: | Re: Crossing the border blues |
I'm not quite am old guy yet but in 2009 I got both the station
license and radiotelephone permit. If you're planning some cool
tropical trips you may as well just get them. One is 10 year, and the
other is lifetime. I hate Mexican (or other foreign) jails. ;)
Tim
On Jul 18, 2009, at 10:35 AM, "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
wrote:
> >
>
> Last year you could pay for the US Customs sticker when you landed
> back in
> the US as opposed to applying for it in advance. 2 new problems for
> me when
> flying to Mexico: Mexican insurance for experimentals through Baja
> Bush
> Pilots took a jump from $100/yr to $400/yr and in October 406 ELT's
> are
> mandatory down there. Also, a new requirement to have the hitherto
> ignored
> radiotelephone operators license with you. If you have one of these
> you
> might be an old guy.
> Albert Gardner
> Yuma, AZ
> PS: I've also heard something about a new requirement for a station
> license
> for the plane.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Crossing the border blues |
On 7/17/2009 3:29 PM, Les Kearney wrote:
> Please, please tell me that the mental giants who designed this process
> arent the same ones who are now running the auto / bank / health /
> industries in the US. If they are, God help your economy.
Hi Les, fortunately we got rid of those "mental giants" last November.
Unfortunately it seems their same evil minions are still in place
within the dark caverns of DHS/TSA, so it doesn't seem we are much
better off with the new set of "mental giants" that were voted in. The
"change" I am looking for is the elimination of the DHS and TSA, the
Patriot Act, and the DMCA, but I'm not holding my breath.
I think I'll go sniff some fiberglass resin today to take my mind off
it. :-)
-Dj, completely and utterly frustrated with our totalitarian-minded
government
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John,will the upgrade you describe fit on the van supplied wheels and
allow the attachment of my standard fairings ? Can you tell me or send
pics of such a mod? Where do I get the safer mil spec fluid? Robert
N661G in hot Arizona leaving back to Texas coast in the am
Sent from my iPhone
Robert E. Brunkenhoefer
Brunkenhoefer Law Firm, P.C.
520 Lawrence St.
Corpus Christi, Texas 78401
Phone: 361-888-8808
Facsimile: 361-888-6753
robert@brunklaw.com
On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:46 PM, "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
> Robert,
>
> I am going with 0.375" thick rotors and dual pad calipers per side to
> spread the force. A couple of RV-x main landing gear caliper fires
> that
> consumed the glass pant caused a few to change from H-5606 a few years
> back. The flame propagation was right below each main AVGAS fuel tank.
> Fiberglass fires are a perverted thing to watch. So take a test sample
> and learn by experiment not experience how the cured resin and glass
> strands come to life until gone. Mine was watching a '69 Vette being
> prepped for custom paint.
>
> VANS mantra is stay conservative with the brakes and build your kit
> bone
> stock. Some of us tend to lean into the wind - just for the fresh sea
> breeze in the summer. With a Barrett and Forsling Exhaust, the brake
> upgrade was an easy choice. Ask about VGs for the RV-10 at OSH.
>
> Mil H-83282 provides another level of combustion protection. I have
> found that H-5606 tends to coagulate with age. Its low flash point is
> routinely accepted by most builders without consideration of
> alternatives.
>
> Some will yell "Stay off the brakes and learn Happy Feet". Then your
> neighborhood A&P will explain how proper engine leaning and a higher
> idle than 700 or 800 will cause the aircraft to move in a forward
> direction requiring those darned toes again.
>
> Fly Often, Fly Safe, Earn your grey hair over time. Take a Grandchild
> for a Young Eagles flight. Stop by Camp Condrey for a beer.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> Brunkenhoefer
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:00 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Winglts ?
>
> <rebrunk42@gmail.com>
>
> are you using this upgrade on your rv10?
> On Jul 16, 2009, at 3:24 PM, John Cox wrote:
>
>>
>> The larger mass of an upgraded rotor can assist cooling as can a
>> larger
>> caliper. The technical support at Cleveland can assist in beginning
>> with their parts used and larger upgrades. Tim James did a great job
>> with OEM Cessna. There is also Beringer. Beyond the benefit of
>> cooler
>> temperatures is the shorter stopping distance at the same speed and
>> same
>> weight. Don't forget to think about a fluid upgrade as H-5606 is
>> more
>> combustible than alternatives. Once a brake line leaks the chain
>> reaction begins.
>>
>> John Cox
>> ,
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
>> Brunkenhoefer
>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:14 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Winglts ?
>>
>> <rebrunk42@gmail.com>
>>
>> Anyone using other than Cleveland brakes mine are getting hot and
>> wearing out too fast.any other brakes recommended or being used?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Robert E. Brunkenhoefer
>> Brunkenhoefer Law Firm, P.C.
>> 520 Lawrence St.
>> Corpus Christi, Texas 78401
>> Phone: 361-888-8808
>> Facsimile: 361-888-6753
>> robert@brunklaw.com
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net
>>>>
>>>
>>> That, and the fact that the wing is 'Hershey bar' shape. I think
>>> winglets would be far more efficient on a swept wing.
>>> Linn
>>>
>>> orchidman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I asked this question in the Vans tent 2 years ago and was blown
>>>> off because they didn't think it would add any significant
>>>> performance. Something about having relatively short wings.
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> Gary Blankenbiller
>>>> RV10 - # 40674
>>>> (N2GB Flying)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253329#253329
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> <HYDRAULIC FLUIDS.pdf>
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For what it's worth, you can also use automatic transmission fluid as
brake fluid.
I've been using it for 3 years now.
Picked that up from an old A&P, IA.
grumpy
N184JM
do not archive
On Jul 18, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Robert Brunkenhoefer wrote:
> >
>
> John,will the upgrade you describe fit on the van supplied wheels
> and allow the attachment of my standard fairings ? Can you tell me
> or send pics of such a mod? Where do I get the safer mil spec fluid?
> Robert N661G in hot Arizona leaving back to Texas coast in the am
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Robert E. Brunkenhoefer
> Brunkenhoefer Law Firm, P.C.
> 520 Lawrence St.
> Corpus Christi, Texas 78401
> Phone: 361-888-8808
> Facsimile: 361-888-6753
> robert@brunklaw.com
>
> On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:46 PM, "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Robert,
>>
>> I am going with 0.375" thick rotors and dual pad calipers per side to
>> spread the force. A couple of RV-x main landing gear caliper fires
>> that
>> consumed the glass pant caused a few to change from H-5606 a few
>> years
>> back. The flame propagation was right below each main AVGAS fuel
>> tank.
>> Fiberglass fires are a perverted thing to watch. So take a test
>> sample
>> and learn by experiment not experience how the cured resin and glass
>> strands come to life until gone. Mine was watching a '69 Vette being
>> prepped for custom paint.
>>
>> VANS mantra is stay conservative with the brakes and build your kit
>> bone
>> stock. Some of us tend to lean into the wind - just for the fresh
>> sea
>> breeze in the summer. With a Barrett and Forsling Exhaust, the brake
>> upgrade was an easy choice. Ask about VGs for the RV-10 at OSH.
>>
>> Mil H-83282 provides another level of combustion protection. I have
>> found that H-5606 tends to coagulate with age. Its low flash point is
>> routinely accepted by most builders without consideration of
>> alternatives.
>>
>> Some will yell "Stay off the brakes and learn Happy Feet". Then your
>> neighborhood A&P will explain how proper engine leaning and a higher
>> idle than 700 or 800 will cause the aircraft to move in a forward
>> direction requiring those darned toes again.
>>
>> Fly Often, Fly Safe, Earn your grey hair over time. Take a
>> Grandchild
>> for a Young Eagles flight. Stop by Camp Condrey for a beer.
>>
>> John
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
>> Brunkenhoefer
>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:00 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Winglts ?
>>
>> <rebrunk42@gmail.com>
>>
>> are you using this upgrade on your rv10?
>> On Jul 16, 2009, at 3:24 PM, John Cox wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The larger mass of an upgraded rotor can assist cooling as can a
>>> larger
>>> caliper. The technical support at Cleveland can assist in beginning
>>> with their parts used and larger upgrades. Tim James did a great
>>> job
>>> with OEM Cessna. There is also Beringer. Beyond the benefit of
>>> cooler
>>> temperatures is the shorter stopping distance at the same speed and
>>> same
>>> weight. Don't forget to think about a fluid upgrade as H-5606 is
>>> more
>>> combustible than alternatives. Once a brake line leaks the chain
>>> reaction begins.
>>>
>>> John Cox
>>> ,
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
>>> Brunkenhoefer
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:14 PM
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Winglts ?
>>>
>>> <rebrunk42@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Anyone using other than Cleveland brakes mine are getting hot and
>>> wearing out too fast.any other brakes recommended or being used?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Robert E. Brunkenhoefer
>>> Brunkenhoefer Law Firm, P.C.
>>> 520 Lawrence St.
>>> Corpus Christi, Texas 78401
>>> Phone: 361-888-8808
>>> Facsimile: 361-888-6753
>>> robert@brunklaw.com
>>>
>>> On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Linn Walters
>>> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That, and the fact that the wing is 'Hershey bar' shape. I think
>>>> winglets would be far more efficient on a swept wing.
>>>> Linn
>>>>
>>>> orchidman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked this question in the Vans tent 2 years ago and was blown
>>>>> off because they didn't think it would add any significant
>>>>> performance. Something about having relatively short wings.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------
>>>>> Gary Blankenbiller
>>>>> RV10 - # 40674
>>>>> (N2GB Flying)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253329#253329
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <HYDRAULIC FLUIDS.pdf>
>
>
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Robert,
I got my 83282 brake fluid from SkyGeek:
http://www.skygeek.com/royco-782-synthetic-fire-resistant-hydraulic-fluid.html
They also sell a 1 gallon can.
I don't know if it's necessary but I also changed the o-rings in the calipers to Viton. Those are part # V1000-224 at http://www.allorings.com
Lenny
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Gear Collapse Yesterday? |
Bill has posted a report on the Alternative Engines forum of Van's Air Force.
John
--------
#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started.
N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Second Battery location |
I have decided to add an Odyssey PC 680 as a second battery, but I've already finished
the wiring setup using Van's battery tray and an Odyssey 925L. I hate
to put it in the baggage area and was wondering if anybody had any comments on
building a new battery tray above the existing one. I was thinking that a couple
of angles between the longerons combined with a vertical anchored to the existing
stock tray might be rigid enough for a 680. Looking for comments and suggestions.
John
--------
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N711JG reserved
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Took a little research to fin it so posting it here
<http://www.vansairforce.com/community/member.php?u=190> gipsowh gipsowh
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Unhappy <http://www.vansairforce.com/community/images/icons/icon9.gif> Gear
Collapse Incident
_____
Yes, its true, N730WL was damaged Thursday afternoon during a test flight
and subsequent emergency landing. Pilot, Bud Warren and I were taking the 10
for a flight around the airport to check out a high operating temperature
problem. We took off after a long taxi and climbed normally, however the
engine temperature kept climbing even after leveling off. For unknown
reasons the engine seemed to quit making power. Bud skillfully banked back
toward the runways. Not a good situation. A discussion with Bud today leads
me to believe that the high engine temperature may have exceeded an
operating parameter in the ECM and the engine reverted to a low power
setting. This has yet to be confirmed but obviously needs to be addressed if
this is indeed the problem.
Bud managed to get the airplane back to the airport sacrificing altitude and
speed without stalling. Incredible job by Bud to get us back to the runway.
However, once over the runway, we were too slow and the plane mushed onto
the runway rather hard. We bounced and skidded to a stop on the collapsed
main gear. Fortunately, there was no fire and Bud and I were able to get out
of the 10 without any injuries, Thank God.
Unfortunately, there was considerable damage to the main landing gear and
the prop was destroyed. The steps kept the bottom of the fuselage off the
runway while we skidded, so no noticeable damage to the fuselage skin or
tail. The wings didn't hit the ground but there is some minor damage from
the gear folding up. I haven't looked at the landing gear mounts yet or the
spar. So I don't know at this ten seconds the full extent of the damage.
This project has been five years in the making and this is a tough pill for
me to swallow. I really appreciate the concerns voiced. Will try and keep
you posted on any new developments or findings.
__________________
Bill Gipson
N730WL
LS1 Geareddrives powered RV-10
Conroe, Texas
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-----Original Message-----
From: David McNeill [mailto:dlm46007@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: W&B update
Exterior and interior views
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjay
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: W&B update
[quote="dlm46007(at)cox.net"]Just completed the first annual and re weighed
after installing the extra battery. The new weight is 1666 and a cg of
108.13. installing the 680 on the firewall moved the CG about an inch
forward. I won't feel any anxiety loading 100 pounds in the baggage area
(35 pounds of tools and 65 pounds of family things). Based on a previous
weight I calculate the battery at 15 and the paint at 21.
> [b]
Can you show us where you placed the 680 in the front?
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| Subject: | Re: Second Battery location |
John,
Just a thought but a small tray just ahead of the main battery tray with the 680
turned 90 degrees. I used two 680s in a Mike Sausen designed/modified tray...the
airplane cranks and runs fine on just one...so I'm very happy with those
batteries..
Rick Sked
N246RS
------Original Message------
From: johngoodman
Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Rv
Sent: Jul 18, 2009 5:45 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Second Battery location
I have decided to add an Odyssey PC 680 as a second battery, but I've already finished
the wiring setup using Van's battery tray and an Odyssey 925L. I hate
to put it in the baggage area and was wondering if anybody had any comments on
building a new battery tray above the existing one. I was thinking that a couple
of angles between the longerons combined with a vertical anchored to the existing
stock tray might be rigid enough for a 680. Looking for comments and suggestions.
John
--------
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N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Crossing the border blues |
For those who either are completely new to this process and/or haven't
fully followed this type of thread in the past, does anybody have a
list of links, including the iAPIS, Customs Sticker and Radio Station
License(s) on the internet where these things can be read about,
ordered, applied for, etc?
Thanks and do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jul 18, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> I'm not quite am old guy yet but in 2009 I got both the station
> license and radiotelephone permit. If you're planning some cool
> tropical trips you may as well just get them. One is 10 year, and
> the other is lifetime. I hate Mexican (or other foreign) jails. ;)
> Tim
>
>
> On Jul 18, 2009, at 10:35 AM, "Albert Gardner"
> <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>> >
>>
>> Last year you could pay for the US Customs sticker when you landed
>> back in
>> the US as opposed to applying for it in advance. 2 new problems for
>> me when
>> flying to Mexico: Mexican insurance for experimentals through Baja
>> Bush
>> Pilots took a jump from $100/yr to $400/yr and in October 406 ELT's
>> are
>> mandatory down there. Also, a new requirement to have the hitherto
>> ignored
>> radiotelephone operators license with you. If you have one of these
>> you
>> might be an old guy.
>> Albert Gardner
>> Yuma, AZ
>> PS: I've also heard something about a new requirement for a station
>> license
>> for the plane.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Crossing the border blues |
I can pass on some of that....I built such a page for us for the
Bahamas....give me a day or two and I'll have time to dig it up.
Tim
On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
wrote:
>
> For those who either are completely new to this process and/or
> haven't fully followed this type of thread in the past, does anybody
> have a list of links, including the iAPIS, Customs Sticker and Radio
> Station License(s) on the internet where these things can be read
> about, ordered, applied for, etc?
>
> Thanks and do not archive.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On Jul 18, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm not quite am old guy yet but in 2009 I got both the station
>> license and radiotelephone permit. If you're planning some cool
>> tropical trips you may as well just get them. One is 10 year, and
>> the other is lifetime. I hate Mexican (or other foreign) jails. ;)
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2009, at 10:35 AM, "Albert Gardner"
>> <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> Last year you could pay for the US Customs sticker when you landed
>>> back in
>>> the US as opposed to applying for it in advance. 2 new problems
>>> for me when
>>> flying to Mexico: Mexican insurance for experimentals through Baja
>>> Bush
>>> Pilots took a jump from $100/yr to $400/yr and in October 406
>>> ELT's are
>>> mandatory down there. Also, a new requirement to have the hitherto
>>> ignored
>>> radiotelephone operators license with you. If you have one of
>>> these you
>>> might be an old guy.
>>> Albert Gardner
>>> Yuma, AZ
>>> PS: I've also heard something about a new requirement for a
>>> station license
>>> for the plane.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Stewart Systems Primer Sealer |
I have been using the Stewart Systems smoke grey primer/sealer for all of the interior
surfaces and used some spray can etch primer (green) for small batches
and odd pieces that I didn't want to set up and clean for. If you mix it with
~20% or less water and use it patiently in warm temperatures -- spray a tack
coat, let dry and continue, it has worked great. I am contemplating priming the
exterior this summer in a 'temporary garage' tent-like structure in the driveway
while the temps are good and before it all comes together.
Just as with framing and wallboard, I don't mind doing the basic first stages,
but I am reluctant to do the finish coat painting myself. I am hoping to find
a shop familiar with the SS paints for the finish paint job.
>From what I hear, the water-soluble paints will be prevalent in the future given
VOC handling issues (equip and cost)
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RV-10 Builder #40546
Tail mostly done, wings complete, middle of SB fuse
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