---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/21/09: 40 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:01 AM - Re: Eyeball Vents (tomhanaway) 2. 04:20 AM - Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! (Condrey, Bob (US SSA)) 3. 06:14 AM - Rudder Rivet Question (BGS) 4. 06:48 AM - Re: Rudder Rivet Question (James Ochs) 5. 06:51 AM - Re: Rudder Rivet Question (George, Neal E Capt USAF ACC 605 TES/DOA) 6. 07:06 AM - Re: Rudder Rivet Question (T.C. Chang) 7. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: Eyeball Vents (pilotdds@aol.com) 8. 07:15 AM - Re: Engine Delivery Question (nukeflyboy) 9. 07:24 AM - Re: Re: Eyeball Vents (Rene Felker) 10. 08:14 AM - Re: Rudder Rivet Question (BGS) 11. 08:16 AM - Re: Extra K 1000-6 nutplates? (Vernon Smith) 12. 08:24 AM - Re: Rudder Rivet Question (Steve Stella) 13. 09:56 AM - Re: Eyeball Vents (Robert Brunkenhoefer) 14. 09:56 AM - Re: power chart (Bill DeRouchey) 15. 10:12 AM - Re: Re: static lines (Jeff Carpenter) 16. 10:12 AM - Re: Rudder Rivet Question (Jeff Carpenter) 17. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! (Robert Brunkenhoefer) 18. 10:33 AM - Re: Eyeball Vents (Bob Turner) 19. 10:44 AM - Re: Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! (Tim Olson) 20. 10:44 AM - Re: Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! (Condrey, Bob (US SSA)) 21. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: static lines (James Ochs) 22. 11:24 AM - Re: Re: static lines (Jeff Carpenter) 23. 12:19 PM - Re: Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 24. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! (Scott Schmidt) 25. 01:09 PM - Re: Interior Door Handles (Robert Brunkenhoefer) 26. 01:19 PM - Re: Re: static lines (Jim) 27. 01:35 PM - different door latch system (Linn Walters) 28. 02:10 PM - Re: Interior Door Handles (Les Kearney) 29. 04:12 PM - Aux fuel tanks (Richard Gurley) 30. 05:14 PM - Re: Aux fuel tanks (McGann, Ron) 31. 05:22 PM - Re: Aux fuel tanks (David Maib) 32. 05:24 PM - Re: different door latch system (Robert Brunkenhoefer) 33. 05:55 PM - Re: Aux fuel tanks (Albert Gardner) 34. 07:11 PM - Re: static lines (nukeflyboy) 35. 07:52 PM - Re: Aux fuel tanks (lbgjb10) 36. 07:52 PM - Re: Aux fuel tanks (lbgjb10) 37. 08:12 PM - Re: Re: Aux fuel tanks (David McNeill) 38. 09:17 PM - Re: Re: Eyeball Vents (Don McDonald) 39. 09:17 PM - Re: Rudder Rivet Question (Dave Leikam) 40. 10:27 PM - Re: Re: Eyeball Vents (Robin Marks) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:25 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents From: "tomhanaway" Don, email sent. Tom H Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254068#254068 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" Yes, working pretty well too so far. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com Sent: Mon Jul 20 21:42:52 2009 Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! Is there any Wi-Fi this year? Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "bcondrey" Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:06 PM Subject: RV10-List: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! > > It's official, Gary and I (and Brenda and Susan) are now on-site for the > duration and all sites are staked out. We will tag them as soon as the > registration office opens in the morning. > > We'll be in the same location as last year in Camp Scholler which is > immediately south of Lindbergh along 55th (east and west sides of the > road). We again have a "group site" with picnic tables and shade > canopies for use. This is where we'll have a few large cookouts during > the week - more info when it's figured out on that. It is the 4th site > south of Lindbergh on the west side of 55th. > > http://www.airventure.org/planning/scholler_2009.pdf > > Bob > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254013#254013 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:29 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Rudder Rivet Question From: "BGS" I have just started my RV10 build and am now working on the rudder and have a question about getting at a rivet. When installing the bottom rib R1004 to the skin. There are the 2 rivets at the aft section where there is no room to get anything into buck the rivets. Can any help me with a better way to do them? Appreciate the help. Brian Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254081#254081 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:57 AM PST US From: James Ochs Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder Rivet Question One method is to back rivet it using a thin, flat piece of metal against the shop end of the rivet and use the flat set of the rivet gun... you put the gun on top of the metal right next to the rib and bang on the top of the metal. An old chisel works pretty well for this. Keep the rivet gun as close to the end of the chisel as you can. Sorry I don't have a picture of it, but hopefully you get the idea. Let me see if i can do an ascii art drawing ;) rivet gun | ------ upper rib flange \/ ----------------------------------------------------------> chisel/ flat piece of steel o shop head of rivet ----- rib flange you are riveting ------------- back rivet plate On Jul 21, 2009, at 8:13 AM, BGS wrote: > > I have just started my RV10 build and am now working on the rudder > and have a question about getting at a rivet. > > When installing the bottom rib R1004 to the skin. There are the 2 > rivets at the aft section where there is no room to get anything > into buck the rivets. > > Can any help me with a better way to do them? > > Appreciate the help. > Brian > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254081#254081 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:04 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Rivet Question From: "George, Neal E Capt USAF ACC 605 TES/DOA" Brian - If you have a pneumatic squeezer, a thin-nose, no-hole yoke may fit. A short piece of steel bar stock clamped in your vice may be used as a anvil - this takes an extra set of hands to support the rudder while you guide the rivet into position and shoot it. Or you could use a pop-rivet. Neal I have just started my RV10 build and am now working on the rudder and have a question about getting at a rivet. When installing the bottom rib R1004 to the skin. There are the 2 rivets at the aft section where there is no room to get anything into buck the rivets. Can any help me with a better way to do them? Appreciate the help. Brian ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:24 AM PST US From: "T.C. Chang" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Rivet Question The plan calls out blind rivet for the last hole (check the manual for instruction). For the one before you can use the indirect riveting technique. If you are a member of EAA, here is the video: http://eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html?videoId=29739765001 Ted ------------------------------------------ T.C. Chang http://3limafoxtrot.com/ RV-9A, Lycoming (ECI) O320-D2A, 160 hp, Carb, left Mag + right Lightspeed EI, Sensenich FP GRT dual DU H1, TT DigiFlight II VSGV, 620 hrs Hobbs Last flight: http://www.mail2600.com/cgi-bin/track.cgi?call=KD8IIR&last=1 RV10 Wing, #40948, N718PF reserved -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BGS Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:14 AM Subject: RV10-List: Rudder Rivet Question I have just started my RV10 build and am now working on the rudder and have a question about getting at a rivet. When installing the bottom rib R1004 to the skin. There are the 2 rivets at the aft section where there is no room to get anything into buck the rivets. Can any help me with a better way to do them? Appreciate the help. Brian Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254081#254081 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:31 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents From: pilotdds@aol.com I would also like two of them if its not to much troublr,what a great find.-Jim -----Original Message----- From: Bob Turner Sent: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 8:25 pm Subject: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents I'd like to sign up for two. (Located in Bay area). -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254052#254052 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:41 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Engine Delivery Question From: "nukeflyboy" If you make it this far east you know you are welcome to stay and visit. At the moment I don't have any travel plans for the month of September. Our EAA meeting is on 9/12. Too bad about the OSH conflict but the graduation is pretty cool too. Give our best to the new soldier and let him know we appreciate his service to our country. do not archive -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254100#254100 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:12 AM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents I would also like 2 if that is possible. Rene' Felker RV-10 N423CF Flying 801-721-6080 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotdds@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:50 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents I would also like two of them if its not to much troublr,what a great find.-Jim -----Original Message----- From: Bob Turner Sent: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 8:25 pm Subject: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents I'd like to sign up for two. (Located in Bay area). -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254052#254052 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:14:29 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rudder Rivet Question From: "BGS" Thank you very much everyone for your help. Should have used a little more common sense and probably would have figured it out. Over analyzing. Appreciate the help. Brian Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254111#254111 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:16:31 AM PST US From: Vernon Smith Subject: RE: RV10-List: Extra K 1000-6 nutplates? Mystery Solved! Called Van's again this time with the hardware bag number ( 1379.) These nutplates are no longer included in the current fuselage kits. So they are just extra hardware. It just made me a little anxious to see s uch large hardware fittings left over after completion. Thanks to all those who jumped in with suggestions=2C Vern From: rene@felker.com Subject: RE: RV10-List: Extra K 1000-6 nutplates? Firewall? Don=92t have my plans and it has been awhile=85..just guessing. Rene' Felker RV-10 N423CF Flying 801-721-6080 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Smith Sent: Monday=2C July 20=2C 2009 5:50 PM Subject: RV10-List: Extra K 1000-6 nutplates? Hi All=2C My standard build fuselage kit came with 8ea. of the K 1000-6 (3/8"). This is in addition to the 7 ea. that comes with the empennage kit for the contr ol surface bearing mounts. Can anyone tell me where they go? I'm installing my wings and haven't found a home for them as of yet. Called Van's today and they weren=92t sure and could think of what they where the y would be used. Anyway I don't like extra hardware especially anything tha t is this big and load bearing. Thanks=2C Vern Smith (#324 attaching wings=2C finishing) Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://fo rums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 SkyDrive=99: Store=2C access=2C and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072 009 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:14 AM PST US From: "Steve Stella" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Rivet Question I used the chisel idea on the second to the end and a blind rivet on the last one. Steve Stella #40654 Wings N521RV reserved -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of T.C. Chang Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Rivet Question The plan calls out blind rivet for the last hole (check the manual for instruction). For the one before you can use the indirect riveting technique. If you are a member of EAA, here is the video: http://eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html?videoId=29739765001 Ted ------------------------------------------ T.C. Chang http://3limafoxtrot.com/ RV-9A, Lycoming (ECI) O320-D2A, 160 hp, Carb, left Mag + right Lightspeed EI, Sensenich FP GRT dual DU H1, TT DigiFlight II VSGV, 620 hrs Hobbs Last flight: http://www.mail2600.com/cgi-bin/track.cgi?call=KD8IIR&last=1 RV10 Wing, #40948, N718PF reserved -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BGS Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:14 AM Subject: RV10-List: Rudder Rivet Question I have just started my RV10 build and am now working on the rudder and have a question about getting at a rivet. When installing the bottom rib R1004 to the skin. There are the 2 rivets at the aft section where there is no room to get anything into buck the rivets. Can any help me with a better way to do them? Appreciate the help. Brian Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254081#254081 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:56:06 AM PST US From: Robert Brunkenhoefer Subject: Re: RV10-List: Eyeball Vents could you send a picture. i might be in the market to replace my plastic. robert n661G 145hrs.just back from phoenix. boy was it hot. On Jul 20, 2009, at 7:08 PM, Don McDonald wrote: > Just in case SOME other builders out there are on a budget.... and > don't want the leaky plastic vents.... I bought a bunch of aluminum > swivel eyeball vents (and can get more) from a local aircraft > recycle place. They work great, and I only paid $10 each. They are > a little smaller in diameter, but put out a bunch of air. I could > probably buy them for $20 to $30 each. Who knows, maybe I could > still get them for $10. Just let me know, and I'll make a trip over > there. > Don McDonald > > --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Bill Mauledriver Watson > wrote: > > From: Bill Mauledriver Watson > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Eyeball Vents > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 10:47 AM > > > > I like Stein's too. Haven't flown them or compared them but I was > impressed with the design and quality. > > Les Kearney wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > I have a bit of a plug or Stien=92s eyeball vents. I recently > purchased the Aveo vents from ACS and found that they didn=92t seal > very well when closed. I returned them and ordered the vents from > Stein. I was mightily impressed ' they sealed completely with > negligible leakage. They are truly well made ' as is claimed on > Stien=92s site. > > > > So if you need vents, my recommendation is to go with Stein. > > > > Cheers > > > > Les > > > > * > > > > > > sp; --> http:=================== ==== > http://====================== = > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:56:06 AM PST US From: Bill DeRouchey Subject: Re: RV10-List: power chart I also have this engine and you will like it. The pistons/cylinders/power a re the same as the -D4A5. The crank is larger and the case heavier to hold the beefy crank. None of these cranks were included with the recent Lycomin g replacements. The crank & case are 9 pounds heavier than the -D4A5 and if you purchased a firewall forward (as I did) then you may have the heavier alternator and starter. This was my situation and I added 3 pounds to the t ail to bring the balance back to the -D4A5 with a lightweight alternator an d starter. - Bill DeRouchey N939SB - --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Kelly McMullen wrote: From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: power chart IO-540-N1A5Similar to -D4A5 but with O-540-G1A5 crankcase and crankshaft an d -K1A5 counterweight assembly Nothing there that will make one iota of difference in power, just perhaps a hair smoother. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Chris and Susie wrote: Thanks Don but thats for a D model not N. But thanks anyway. - Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: Don McDonald Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: power chart Here ya go... - Don McDonald --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Chris and Susie wrote: From: Chris and Susie Subject: RV10-List: power chart Would someone would have a power chart for a IO540 N1A5 please Ch---> http://www.matronics.com/contribution get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:15 AM PST US From: Jeff Carpenter Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: static lines I think this shows it... Jeff Carpenter 40304 On Jul 13, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Lew Gallagher wrote: > > Hey Jeff, > > Pictures would be great. Thanks in advance. > > Later, - Lew > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Painting done! > On with wiring and avionics. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252811#252811 > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:22 AM PST US From: Jeff Carpenter Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder Rivet Question The bucking bar pictured below from Avery is a very useful tool. Aside from letting you dimple hard to access areas with your rivet gun, a simple modification will allow you to set rivets in tight places. I ground out a chunk of the bar as you can see in the attached pictures. It gives you a very strong, but thin surface to slide in to those tight spaces and set rivets against. I also counter sunk a couple of holes that, when push comes to shove, can be used with a rivet and gun to dimple holes in very tight spots. Jeff Carpenter 40304 Doors (and not too happy about it) DSC_0001 DSC_0002 DSC_0003 On Jul 21, 2009, at 6:13 AM, BGS wrote: > > I have just started my RV10 build and am now working on the rudder > and have a question about getting at a rivet. > > When installing the bottom rib R1004 to the skin. There are the 2 > rivets at the aft section where there is no room to get anything > into buck the rivets. > > Can any help me with a better way to do them? > > Appreciate the help. > Brian > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254081#254081 > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:14:24 AM PST US From: Robert Brunkenhoefer Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! whats the weather like? robert On Jul 20, 2009, at 9:38 PM, bcondrey wrote: > > > > For those wondering about attendance, from what we can see in Camp > Scholler it looks like there are more people here than at this time > last year. > > Weather conditions have been very dry here - grass is long and a > little crunchy. Fortunately, Michael Sausen has again dropped off a > lawn mower for use. > > WiFi appears to be working great for me so far. Others have > reported issues so we'll just have to see. > > Bob > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254043#254043 > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:33:57 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents From: "Bob Turner" Don, Can I change my order from 2 to 4? (two more for another local builder). -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254141#254141 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:44:03 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! Bring both warm and cool clothes this year...lately it's been very comfortable during the day...70's. May be in the 80's even. Of course, by next week we could be at 95, too. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Robert Brunkenhoefer wrote: > > whats the weather like? robert > On Jul 20, 2009, at 9:38 PM, bcondrey wrote: > >> >> For those wondering about attendance, from what we can see in Camp >> Scholler it looks like there are more people here than at this time >> last year. >> >> Weather conditions have been very dry here - grass is long and a >> little crunchy. Fortunately, Michael Sausen has again dropped off a >> lawn mower for use. >> >> WiFi appears to be working great for me so far. Others have reported >> issues so we'll just have to see. >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254043#254043 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:44:03 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" Highs around 80, lows in the 50s. Rain possible each night this week and a cold front passing through Fri/Sat. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com Sent: Tue Jul 21 09:50:24 2009 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! whats the weather like? robert On Jul 20, 2009, at 9:38 PM, bcondrey wrote: > > > > For those wondering about attendance, from what we can see in Camp > Scholler it looks like there are more people here than at this time > last year. > > Weather conditions have been very dry here - grass is long and a > little crunchy. Fortunately, Michael Sausen has again dropped off a > lawn mower for use. > > WiFi appears to be working great for me so far. Others have > reported issues so we'll just have to see. > > Bob > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254043#254043 > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:51:59 AM PST US From: James Ochs Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: static lines Just a thought, but you might want to relocate the T on your static line so that it is higher than the port so that you will drain any water out of the static port rather than down into the line towards the avionics... James On Jul 21, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Jeff Carpenter wrote: > I think this shows it... > > Jeff Carpenter > 40304 > > > > > > On Jul 13, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Lew Gallagher wrote: > >> >> >> Hey Jeff, >> >> Pictures would be great. Thanks in advance. >> >> Later, - Lew >> >> -------- >> non-pilot >> crazy about building >> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 >> Painting done! >> On with wiring and avionics. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252811#252811 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 11:24:20 AM PST US From: Jeff Carpenter Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: static lines Thanks James... I will. On Jul 21, 2009, at 10:47 AM, James Ochs wrote: > > Just a thought, but you might want to relocate the T on your static > line so that it is higher than the port so that you will drain any > water out of the static port rather than down into the line towards > the avionics... > > James > > On Jul 21, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Jeff Carpenter wrote: > >> I think this shows it... >> >> Jeff Carpenter >> 40304 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 13, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Lew Gallagher wrote: >> >>> > >>> >>> Hey Jeff, >>> >>> Pictures would be great. Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Later, - Lew >>> >>> -------- >>> non-pilot >>> crazy about building >>> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 >>> Painting done! >>> On with wiring and avionics. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252811#252811 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 12:19:08 PM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! This is the coolest I remember at this time of year in recent history. We actually had a high in the 60's last weekend and they are forecasting it to drop back into the 70's again after today with lows in the 50's. Haven't had rain in around 3 weeks until the last couple days so the ground is like concrete. Of course the weather gods have noticed that Airventure is starting up so all bets are off for the next 12 days. They are forecasting over 2 inches of rain tonight about 60 miles NW of OSH and around .5" to 1" for around here. I've been sitting in my workshop watching it get steadily darker here. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brunkenhoefer Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:50 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! whats the weather like? robert On Jul 20, 2009, at 9:38 PM, bcondrey wrote: > > > > For those wondering about attendance, from what we can see in Camp > Scholler it looks like there are more people here than at this time > last year. > > Weather conditions have been very dry here - grass is long and a > little crunchy. Fortunately, Michael Sausen has again dropped off a > lawn mower for use. > > WiFi appears to be working great for me so far. Others have > reported issues so we'll just have to see. > > Bob > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254043#254043 > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 12:55:08 PM PST US From: Scott Schmidt Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! It looks like there is some rain that is coming right now. Scott Schmidt scottmschmidt@yahoo.com ________________________________ From: Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:33:02 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: OSH RV-10 HQ Open For Business! Bring both warm and cool clothes this year...lately it's been very comfortable during the day...70's. May be in the 80's even. Of course, by next week we could be at 95, too. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Robert Brunkenhoefer wrote: > > whats the weather like? robert > On Jul 20, 2009, at 9:38 PM, bcondrey wrote: > >> >> For those wondering about attendance, from what we can see in Camp Scholler it looks like there are more people here than at this time last year. >> >> Weather conditions have been very dry here - grass is long and a little crunchy. Fortunately, Michael Sausen has again dropped off a lawn mower for use. >> >> WiFi appears to be working great for me so far. Others have reported issues so we'll just have to see. >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254043#254043 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 01:09:21 PM PST US From: Robert Brunkenhoefer Subject: Re: RV10-List: Interior Door Handles how can i get these? robert On Jul 20, 2009, at 9:58 PM, Les Kearney wrote: > Hi > > Probably the kindest thing that can be said about the Van=92s > finishing hardware is that most look like they are ex the Mordor > iron works. This is especially true of the interior door handles > that look pretty cheap. > > Today I just received my brushed aluminum handles from David Nellis. > They are a very nice bit of kit. Here is a link to some photos of > the handles ' the pix don=92t do them justice. > > http://davidnellis.myphotoalbum.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=album18 > > Cheers > > Les > #40643 - counting the days to a brewski at KOSH HQ > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 01:19:02 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: static lines From: "Jim" Jeff, You might want to re-run those static lines. The "T" should be as high as possible so that water will run out of the lines not into them and collect / freeze. Jim Combs N312F Flying - 90 hours -------------------------------------------------------- I think this shows it... Jeff Carpenter 40304 On Jul 13, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Lew Gallagher wrote: > > Hey Jeff, > > Pictures would be great. Thanks in advance. > > Later, - Lew > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Painting done! > On with wiring and avionics. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252811#252811 > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 01:35:21 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: RV10-List: different door latch system I didn't like Vans door latch system and it's associated problems ..... such as the handle hanging out in the breeze, separate lock if you can figure out how, and that asthetically pleasing piece of square tube on the inside ...... so I modified my doors. The attached pictures are pretty much what I'll end up with. The mod will cost less than $200. I figure the mod will take less time than the Vans installation, and won't require many tools you don't already have, but since I haven't done it Van's way ..... I see no reason why the mod can't be done on a completed airplane. If you're interested in my installation, or have questions, send me an email off-list. I might make up a parts kit ..... but this isn't going to become a business! Linn Walters ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 02:10:53 PM PST US From: "Les Kearney" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Interior Door Handles Robert Contact David Nellis at davidnellis691@comcast.net . I have also CC'd him on this email. Cheers Les _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brunkenhoefer Sent: July-21-09 2:07 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Interior Door Handles how can i get these? robert On Jul 20, 2009, at 9:58 PM, Les Kearney wrote: Hi Probably the kindest thing that can be said about the Van's finishing hardware is that most look like they are ex the Mordor iron works. This is especially true of the interior door handles that look pretty cheap. Today I just received my brushed aluminum handles from David Nellis. They are a very nice bit of kit. Here is a link to some photos of the handles - the pix don't do them justice. http://davidnellis.myphotoalbum.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=album18 Cheers Les #40643 - counting the days to a brewski at KOSH HQ http://forums.matronics.com style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:57 PM PST US From: "Richard Gurley" Subject: RV10-List: Aux fuel tanks It has been a few years now that some of you have been flying. Has anyone installed or wish they have installed aux fuel tanks. I am currently planning the items to be installed my wings and was wondering what the consensus was. Thank you in advance. Dick Gurley ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:48 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aux fuel tanks From: "McGann, Ron" Hi Dick, I flew from Adelaide South Australia to Sydney last weekend (~800nm). Refuelled at 650nm mark to ensure I had required reserves for alternates (weather was not favourable in Sydney), but could easily have made the distance and maintained fixed reserves. YMMV, but my bladder would not have held for the full 5 hrs flight time and the fuel stop was a relief. Just one data point, but effectively leaned this plane can fly for quite a while (and cover a serious distance) on standard tanks. Cheers, Ron VH-XRM Flying in Oz -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Gurley Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2009 9:06 AM Subject: RV10-List: Aux fuel tanks It has been a few years now that some of you have been flying. Has anyone installed or wish they have installed aux fuel tanks. I am currently planning the items to be installed my wings and was wondering what the consensus was. Thank you in advance. Dick Gurley DISCLAIMER:--------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail transmission and any documents, files and previous e-mail messages attached to it are private and confidential. They may contain proprietary or copyright material or information that is subject to legal professional privilege. They are for the use of the intended recipient only. Any unauthorised viewing, use, disclosure, copying, alteration, storage or distribution of, or reliance on, this message is strictly prohibited. No part may be reproduced, adapted or transmitted without the written permission of the owner. 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David Maib 40559 On Jul 21, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Richard Gurley wrote: It has been a few years now that some of you have been flying. Has anyone installed or wish they have installed aux fuel tanks. I am currently planning the items to be installed my wings and was wondering what the consensus was. Thank you in advance. Dick Gurley ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:29 PM PST US From: Robert Brunkenhoefer Subject: Re: RV10-List: different door latch system I am interested and would want a complete system unless some internal parts from van can be used. Robert Brunkenhoefer 661G 145hrs Sent from my iPhone Robert E. Brunkenhoefer Brunkenhoefer Law Firm, P.C. 520 Lawrence St. Corpus Christi, Texas 78401 Phone: 361-888-8808 Facsimile: 361-888-6753 robert@brunklaw.com On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Linn Walters wrote: > I didn't like Vans door latch system and it's associated > problems ..... such as the handle hanging out in the breeze, > separate lock if you can figure out how, and that asthetically > pleasing piece of square tube on the inside ...... so I modified my > doors. The attached pictures are pretty much what I'll end up > with. The mod will cost less than $200. I figure the mod will take > less time than the Vans installation, and won't require many tools > you don't already have, but since I haven't done it Van's way ..... > > I see no reason why the mod can't be done on a completed airplane. > If you're interested in my installation, or have questions, send me > an email off-list. I might make up a parts kit ..... but this isn't > going to become a business! > Linn Walters > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 05:55:19 PM PST US From: "Albert Gardner" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aux fuel tanks I plumbed my aircraft to make it easy to add tip tanks later on but have lost interest. Over the last 160 hours my RV-10 has averaged 10.6 gph. That's over 5 hours of flying and I normally plan 3-3.5 hr legs. This includes some long flights as well as short local legs. Cross country flights are at 11.5 and 12.5 at 2300 rpm. Local flights usually at 19 or 21 sq. to keep up with the group. Engine is I0-540 10:1, 1 mag, 1 Lightspeed with Aero-Composits 3 blade. When I run into cheap gas I always wish I could haul some home but I no longer feel I need more capacity. Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ -----Original Message----- Subject: RV10-List: Aux fuel tanks It has been a few years now that some of you have been flying. Has anyone installed or wish they have installed aux fuel tanks. I am currently planning the items to be installed my wings and was wondering what the consensus was. Thank you in advance. Dick Gurley ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:11 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: static lines From: "nukeflyboy" All good suggestions but also consider using cable tie mounts (adhesive squares that you can run a tie-wrap through) to support the tubing runs. I used the barbed tees because they work fine and are dirt cheap. Once installed you never touch them again. The slip in connectors are nice but totally unnecessary and expensive. I used them on my O2 system. Remember there is no flow through the static system. Keep it simple. -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254244#254244 ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:51 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aux fuel tanks From: "lbgjb10" have 15 gal aux tanks built into wings (basically splitting a regular tank) and with transfer pumps, have 90 gal. having ability to have extra fuel, or to tanker cheaper fuel is very nice. If you run 75% power and run ROP you will wish you had more fuel sometime. larry b. -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254253#254253 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:51 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aux fuel tanks From: "lbgjb10" have 15 gal aux tanks built into wings (basically splitting a regular tank) and with transfer pumps, have 90 gal. having ability to have extra fuel, or to tanker cheaper fuel is very nice. If you run 75% power and run ROP you will wish you had more fuel sometime. larry b. -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254252#254252 ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:13 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Aux fuel tanks While traveling to TX in June I met an RV10 builder at Bulverde airpark/airport (1T8) who was building a wet wing with 120 gal total. If anyone is interested I am sure that the FBO there knows of the build. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lbgjb10 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:52 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aux fuel tanks have 15 gal aux tanks built into wings (basically splitting a regular tank) and with transfer pumps, have 90 gal. having ability to have extra fuel, or to tanker cheaper fuel is very nice. If you run 75% power and run ROP you will wish you had more fuel sometime. larry b. -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254253#254253 ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 09:17:44 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents Looks like I stepped on my wanger on this one.... made the trip out to the plane recyclery today and couldn't find anything worthwhile... so stopped i n and talked to the owner to find out what was up because they seemed to al ways have quite a few on hand.- He explained that this guy who was into d oing custom cars continues to buy everyone that comes in.- Oh well, sorry guys. Don --- On Tue, 7/21/09, pilotdds@aol.com wrote: From: pilotdds@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents I would also like two of them if its not to much troublr,what a great find. -Jim -----Original Message----- From: Bob Turner Sent: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 8:25 pm Subject: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents I'd like to sign up for two. (Located in Bay area). -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254052#254052 =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 09:17:45 PM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder Rivet Question I used a flat head screw driver as a bucking bar, with a back rivet plate behind. Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Ochs" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:43 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder Rivet Question > > One method is to back rivet it using a thin, flat piece of metal against > the shop end of the rivet and use the flat set of the rivet gun... you > put the gun on top of the metal right next to the rib and bang on the top > of the metal. An old chisel works pretty well for this. Keep the rivet > gun as close to the end of the chisel as you can. Sorry I don't have a > picture of it, but hopefully you get the idea. > > Let me see if i can do an ascii art drawing ;) > > rivet gun > | ------ > upper rib flange > \/ > ----------------------------------------------------------> chisel/ flat > piece of steel > o > shop head of rivet > ----- > rib flange you are riveting > ------------- > back rivet plate > On Jul 21, 2009, at 8:13 AM, BGS wrote: > >> >> I have just started my RV10 build and am now working on the rudder and >> have a question about getting at a rivet. >> >> When installing the bottom rib R1004 to the skin. There are the 2 >> rivets at the aft section where there is no room to get anything into >> buck the rivets. >> >> Can any help me with a better way to do them? >> >> Appreciate the help. >> Brian >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254081#254081 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 10:27:26 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents From: "Robin Marks" In that case I'll take 4. Thanks Don J Do Not Archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:14 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents Looks like I stepped on my wanger on this one.... made the trip out to the plane recyclery today and couldn't find anything worthwhile... so stopped in and talked to the owner to find out what was up because they seemed to always have quite a few on hand. He explained that this guy who was into doing custom cars continues to buy everyone that comes in. Oh well, sorry guys. Don --- On Tue, 7/21/09, pilotdds@aol.com wrote: From: pilotdds@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents To: rv10-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 6:49 AM I would also like two of them if its not to much troublr,what a great find.-Jim -----Original Message----- From: Bob Turner To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 8:25 pm Subject: RV10-List: Re: Eyeball Vents > I'd like to sign up for two. 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