---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/09/09: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:49 AM - MAP sensor on GRT EIS? (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy) 2. 04:10 AM - Re: MAP sensor on GRT EIS? (David McNeill) 3. 07:52 AM - Re: MAP sensor on GRT EIS? (bcondrey) 4. 07:53 AM - Re: MAP sensor on GRT EIS? (bcondrey) 5. 08:42 AM - Trim indicator (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy) 6. 09:11 AM - Re: Trim indicator (Richard Bibb) 7. 09:57 AM - Re: Crimpers (Paul Bowmar) 8. 11:54 AM - Wing root fairing (Robert Brunkenhoefer) 9. 12:40 PM - Re: Wing root fairing (Tim Olson) 10. 12:45 PM - Re: Wing root fairing (John Cox) 11. 12:45 PM - Re: MAP sensor on GRT EIS? (DejaVu) 12. 03:50 PM - Re: MAP sensor on GRT EIS? (david cook) 13. 05:08 PM - Re: Wing root fairing (Jesse Saint) 14. 05:41 PM - Re: Trim indicator (Pascal) 15. 06:51 PM - RV10 Interior (Rob Kermanj) 16. 07:09 PM - Re: RV10 Interior (Miller John) 17. 07:40 PM - Re: RV10 Interior (David McNeill) 18. 07:40 PM - Re: RV10 Interior (Kelly McMullen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:49:59 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: MAP sensor on GRT EIS? From: "Dawson-Townsend,Timothy" Can anyone say if the Manifold Pressure sensor little box on a GRT EIS set up gets fed with 12 volts or 5 vollts? TDT Tim Dawson-Townsend 40025 tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:15 AM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RE: RV10-List: MAP sensor on GRT EIS? 12 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dawson-Townsend,Timothy Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 1:31 AM Subject: RV10-List: MAP sensor on GRT EIS? Can anyone say if the Manifold Pressure sensor little box on a GRT EIS set up gets fed with 12 volts or 5 vollts? TDT Tim Dawson-Townsend 40025 tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:08 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: MAP sensor on GRT EIS? From: "bcondrey" 12v, attached is the install info. Bob N442PM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256769#256769 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/grtmap_122.pdf ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:19 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: MAP sensor on GRT EIS? From: "bcondrey" 12v, attached is the install info. Bob N442PM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256770#256770 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/grtmap_122.pdf ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:34 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Trim indicator From: "Dawson-Townsend,Timothy" All: Testing the trim (Safety-Trim) and trim indicator (Ray Allen), I got just one lit bar, at the far end of the indicator range. (can't tell yet whether it's the "up" or "down" end) Checking things, somehow I was applying 24 volts to the indictor power! I fixed that, but the result is the same. Do you think I "toasted" the indicator and now it will only show that one lit bar at the end of the scale, or is there some debugging I can do between the three signal wires from the trim servo? I looked for some info from Ray Allen on debugging at that level, without success. I figure RAC will answer my question on Monday, but thought I would try the list in case anyone has some insight there. Thanks, TDT Tim Dawson-Townsend 40025 tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile) ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:57 AM PST US From: "Richard Bibb" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trim indicator You might have fried some of the individual LEDs. If you apply 12V directly to the indicator input line all LEDs should light. I don't have the indicator schematic handy but that is how I recall it is wired. When you applied 24V you got twice the current going through the elements. Depending on how long and the current capacity of the diodes they might e OK. At least one of them is.. Richard Bibb 972-771-2598 972-835-5979 mobile _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dawson-Townsend,Timothy Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 10:38 AM Subject: RV10-List: Trim indicator All: Testing the trim (Safety-Trim) and trim indicator (Ray Allen), I got just one lit bar, at the far end of the indicator range. (can't tell yet whether it's the "up" or "down" end) Checking things, somehow I was applying 24 volts to the indictor power! I fixed that, but the result is the same. Do you think I "toasted" the indicator and now it will only show that one lit bar at the end of the scale, or is there some debugging I can do between the three signal wires from the trim servo? I looked for some info from Ray Allen on debugging at that level, without success. I figure RAC will answer my question on Monday, but thought I would try the list in case anyone has some insight there. Thanks, TDT Tim Dawson-Townsend 40025 tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:57:28 AM PST US From: "Paul Bowmar" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Crimpers Here is a crimper sold by Plane Innovations LLC for $96.00. Call them at (435) 826-4662 Paul Bowmar N67KB RV-4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Godfrey" Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:38 AM Subject: RV10-List: Crimpers > > Listers, > Can anyone offer up an opinion as to what would be a good choice of a > crimper for wire terminals? Would like to start with the ring terminals > and then work up to the pins for DB connectors. > > Ed Godfrey > 40717 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:54:24 AM PST US From: Robert Brunkenhoefer Subject: RV10-List: Wing root fairing The gold and white rv10 has a nonfiberglass fairing. Does anyone know where I can get them. Robert Brunkenhoefer 661G corpus christi, Texas 170hrs Sent from my iPhone Robert E. Brunkenhoefer Brunkenhoefer Law Firm, P.C. 520 Lawrence St. Corpus Christi, Texas 78401 Phone: 361-888-8808 Facsimile: 361-888-6753 robert@brunklaw.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:40:42 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing root fairing They made that one theirselves...I think they finished just before the show. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Robert Brunkenhoefer wrote: > > The gold and white rv10 has a nonfiberglass fairing. Does anyone know > where I can get them. Robert Brunkenhoefer 661G corpus christi, Texas > 170hrs > > Sent from my iPhone > > Robert E. Brunkenhoefer > Brunkenhoefer Law Firm, P.C. > 520 Lawrence St. > Corpus Christi, Texas 78401 > Phone: 361-888-8808 > Facsimile: 361-888-6753 > robert@brunklaw.com > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:45:17 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wing root fairing From: "John Cox" Saint Aviation - Florida. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brunkenhoefer Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: RV10-List: Wing root fairing The gold and white rv10 has a nonfiberglass fairing. Does anyone know where I can get them. Robert Brunkenhoefer 661G corpus christi, Texas 170hrs Sent from my iPhone Robert E. Brunkenhoefer Brunkenhoefer Law Firm, P.C. 520 Lawrence St. Corpus Christi, Texas 78401 Phone: 361-888-8808 Facsimile: 361-888-6753 robert@brunklaw.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:45:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: MAP sensor on GRT EIS? From: DejaVu TDT, It's been a while for me but I don't remember anything special with the installation. So I would say 12V. Anh N591VU-flying On Sun 08/09/09 4:31 AM , "Dawson-Townsend,Timothy" tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero sent: Can anyone say if the Manifold Pressure sensor little box on a GRT EIS set up gets fed with 12 volts or 5 vollts? TDT Tim Dawson-Townsend 40025 tdt@aurora.aero [1] 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile) HTTP://WWW.MATRONICS.COM/NAVIGATOR?RV10-LIST [2] HTTP://WWW.MATRONICS.COM/CONTRIBUTION [4] Links: ------ [1] mailto:tdt@aurora.aero [2] http://metromail.metrocast.net/HTTP://WWW.MATRONICS.COM/NAVIGATOR?RV10-LIST [3] http://metromail.metrocast.net/HTTP://FORUMS.MATRONICS.COM/ [4] http://metromail.metrocast.net/HTTP://WWW.MATRONICS.COM/CONTRIBUTION ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:50:25 PM PST US From: david cook Subject: Re: RV10-List: MAP sensor on GRT EIS? 12volts is correct David R. Cook N815DC RV-6 Flying ________________________________ From: DejaVu Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 3:38:20 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: MAP sensor on GRT EIS? TDT, It's been a while for me but I don't remember anything special with the installation. So I would say 12V. Anh N591VU-flying On Sun 08/09/09 4:31 AM , "Dawson-Townsend,Timothy" tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero sent: > >Can anyone say if the Manifold Pressure sensor little box on a GRT EIS set up gets fed with 12 volts or 5 vollts? > >TDT > >Tim Dawson-Townsend >40025 >tdt@aurora.aero >617-500-4812 (office) >617-905-4800 (mobile) > >http://ww://www.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com================ ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:08:44 PM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing root fairing I've been getting a lot of e-mails about this, and plan to answer them soon, but I'm on the road right now with my family and haven't had a change to respond to everybody yet. In short, they are fiberglass, our design and our mold, and in the small amount of testing we have done so far with the quick fit that we did before the show, we are showing a 4Kt increase in cruise speed and a 3Kt slower stall speed. We have noticed no odd flight characteristics so far in about 15-20 hours of flying with them. We do plan to offer them for sale, but do not yet know the price or the format. We will probably offer two versions, one just as it comes out of the mold and one already filled, sanded and painted a basic white color ready for screw holes and final color paint. The row of screws will fit with the upper wing root fairing on the wing side and will require with nutplates or rivnuts along the side skin of the fuselage. We only used about 4-5 rivnuts and got a pretty good fit along the fuse side skin, but a few more will give it a little better snug along that side. Our plane has the uppwer wing root fairing still on under the fiberglass fairing, but Van's (KK) said that their stress testing was done without the metal fairings in place, so they could be left out if desired. It will require that people not step on the area now covered with the root fairing, but rather on the wing skin itself. I know a lot of people only have their non-skid on the wing itself and others have it on the root fairing. I personally have never stepped on the root fairing to get in, but for those who do, it might take a little bit of adjustment. More info to follow to those who contact me off the list. I will work on pricing and will reply to all of those who contact me off list with more details, pictures and pricing. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:41:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trim indicator From: Pascal Does the trim actually move but the indicator does not? I went out and tested the POS-12 for my flaps and was able to get the indicator to move as I moved the trim itself, however it stayed in one position when the trim was not powered/working. could be a matter of calibrating it as well, if it's on the EFIS or other component. Pascal On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 11:38 -0400, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote: > All: > > > > Testing the trim (Safety-Trim) and trim indicator (Ray Allen), I got > just one lit bar, at the far end of the indicator range. (cant tell > yet whether its the up or down end) Checking things, somehow I > was applying 24 volts to the indictor power! I fixed that, but the > result is the same. > > > > Do you think I toasted the indicator and now it will only show that > one lit bar at the end of the scale, or is there some debugging I can > do between the three signal wires from the trim servo? I looked for > some info from Ray Allen on debugging at that level, without success. > > > > I figure RAC will answer my question on Monday, but thought I would > try the list in case anyone has some insight there. > > > > Thanks, > > > TDT > > > > Tim Dawson-Townsend > > 40025 > > tdt@aurora.aero > > 617-500-4812 (office) > > 617-905-4800 (mobile) > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:51:36 PM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Interior I just dropped off my RV for interior work at Plane Plastics in Alva Oklahoma on Saturday. They are going to create the prototype vacuum formed trim for the side panels, windows, etc. I will be picking the plane up late in September and will let everyone know how it turns out. I got a short tour of the facility and have to admit, I was impressed. They have a serious operation with a warehouse full of molds for various new and old planes. I will also pass along any progress pictures I might get. Below are a couple of pictures of their parts warehouse. Do not archive. IMG_0005.JPG IMG_0007.JPG ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:38 PM PST US From: Miller John Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV10 Interior Please let the list know how it turns out..... grumpy N184JM do not archive On Aug 9, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Rob Kermanj wrote: > I just dropped off my RV for interior work at Plane Plastics in Alva > Oklahoma on Saturday. They are going to create the prototype vacuum > formed trim for the side panels, windows, etc. I will be picking > the plane up late in September and will let everyone know how it > turns out. > > I got a short tour of the facility and have to admit, I was > impressed. They have a serious operation with a warehouse full of > molds for various new and old planes. I will also pass along any > progress pictures I might get. Below are a couple of pictures of > their parts warehouse. > > > Do not archive. > > > IMG_0005.JPG > > > IMG_0007.JPG > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:40:35 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV10 Interior I believe they are under new management (hope so?) ; I had my C177RG sent there (late 80s) (Kinze Industries) to get a new plastic interior and they returned the aircraft in an incomplete state and left lots of plastic shavings in the vents and under the facade. They simply underestimated the job and then worked the estimated hours and then some and quit. Sending back an incomplete airplane with several parts untrimmed or fitted. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 6:45 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Interior I just dropped off my RV for interior work at Plane Plastics in Alva Oklahoma on Saturday. They are going to create the prototype vacuum formed trim for the side panels, windows, etc. I will be picking the plane up late in September and will let everyone know how it turns out. I got a short tour of the facility and have to admit, I was impressed. They have a serious operation with a warehouse full of molds for various new and old planes. I will also pass along any progress pictures I might get. Below are a couple of pictures of their parts warehouse. Do not archive. IMG_0005.JPG IMG_0007.JPG ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:40:36 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV10 Interior From: Kelly McMullen Have you considered what Cessnas/Pipers look like after 10 years with Royalite interiors? I hope their product turns out better than those spam cans. On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Miller John wrote: > Please let the list know how it turns out..... > grumpy > N184JM > > do not archive > > On Aug 9, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Rob Kermanj wrote: > > I just dropped off my RV for interior work at Plane Plastics in Alva > Oklahoma on Saturday. They are going to create the prototype vacuum formed > trim for the side panels, windows, etc. I will be picking the plane up late > in September and will let everyone know how it turns out. > > I got a short tour of the facility and have to admit, I was impressed. > They have a serious operation with a warehouse full of molds for various > new and old planes. I will also pass along any progress pictures I might > get. Below are a couple of pictures of their parts warehouse. > > > Do not archive. > > > IMG_0005.JPG > > > IMG_0007.JPG > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.