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1. 07:06 AM - Alternator belt alignment (aerosport1)
2. 07:24 AM - Re: Alternator belt alignment (greghale)
3. 08:35 AM - Garmin 296 $350 with Gizmo (Dave Saylor)
4. 10:40 AM - How long to build an RV10 (AirMike)
5. 11:05 AM - Re: Alternator belt alignment (Geoff Combs)
6. 11:20 AM - Re: Oil door hidden hinge (ivankris)
7. 11:20 AM - Re: RV-List: Garmin 296 $350 with Gizmo (Dave Saylor)
8. 12:01 PM - Re: Re: Oil door hidden hinge - OT (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
9. 12:11 PM - Re: How long to build an RV10 (John Gonzalez)
10. 12:48 PM - Re: How long to build an RV10 (gary)
11. 01:25 PM - Fuel Flow variations (Deems Davis)
12. 01:41 PM - Re: How long to build an RV10 (Seano)
13. 02:13 PM - Re: Fuel Flow variations (Kelly McMullen)
14. 02:15 PM - Re: Fuel Flow variations (Bob Leffler)
15. 02:15 PM - Re: Fuel Flow variations (David McNeill)
16. 02:20 PM - Re: How long to build an RV10 (Bob Leffler)
17. 02:24 PM - Re: Fuel Flow variations (William Curtis)
18. 02:25 PM - Like Seeing a Rock Star... (Jeff Carpenter)
19. 02:32 PM - Re: How long to build an RV10 (orchidman)
20. 02:39 PM - Re: Fuel Flow variations (orchidman)
21. 02:44 PM - Re: How long to build an RV10 (Jeff Carpenter)
22. 03:11 PM - Re: Re: Oil door hidden hinge (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
23. 04:29 PM - Re: Fuel Flow variations (gary)
24. 04:51 PM - Artex ME406 - are they shipping yet? (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
25. 04:53 PM - Re: Re: How long to build an RV10 (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
26. 05:03 PM - Re: Fuel Flow variations (Richard Bibb)
27. 05:04 PM - Re: Fuel Flow variations (Bob Leffler)
28. 05:35 PM - Re: Fuel Flow variations (Dave Saylor)
29. 06:49 PM - Re: Door seal info (fdombroski)
30. 07:27 PM - Re: Oil door hidden hinge - OT (ivankris)
31. 09:08 PM - Re: How long to build an RV10 (richard sipp)
32. 09:35 PM - Re: How long to build an RV10 (Neil & Sarah Colliver)
33. 10:35 PM - Re: How long to build an RV10 (Don McDonald)
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| Subject: | Alternator belt alignment |
I was putting on my alternator today and find that the belt is misaligned
by about 1/3 of the belt width to the belt groove on the engine. I have a Aerosport
engine and the stock PLane Power alternator has any one else seen this problem?
Or is this standard and leave it alone. I would think they need to be perfectly
aligned.
Geoff
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Geoff Combs
RV-10 QB N829GW
Finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Alternator belt alignment |
My Plane Power alternator pulley did not align with th ring gear pulley groove.
I swapped ends with the alternator bracket and that corrected the problem.
I did however have to make new spacers on the bracket to hold the alternator in
position. I am using the dual groove ring gear for the air conditioning compressor.
Greg...
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www.nwacaptain.com
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| Subject: | Garmin 296 $350 with Gizmo |
Garmin 296 for sale. I bought it new, and it works great in the air and in
the car. Lots of accessories: AirGizmo panel mount, car bean bag mount,
yoke mount, external antenna, external speaker/power cord, 128M data card
for driving that covers about half the U.S. at a time, AC power, owner's
manual, more.
$350 plus shipping
--
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
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| Subject: | How long to build an RV10 |
A big question that newbees have is how long does it take to build an RV10? Well
I have a pretty good answer. I am a novice builder, with modest mechanical skills.
I was motivated to build a QB myself. I took training from the excellent
empenage build class (Wally Anderson) at Synergy in Eugene OR. I logged my
build hours fairly carefully for all 32 months of the build process. Starting
on 1/3/07 to Thursday when it was 100% ready to fly with FAA EXP certification,
I logged 2600 hours of my own time and 307 hours of builder assist and assistance
time. Total investment 2907 human hours of plan study and build. This does
not include the many hours on this site and sending/receiving e-mails from
fellow builders.
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OSH '09 or Bust (busted) be there someday
Q/B Kit - end game
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| Subject: | Alternator belt alignment |
Mystery is solved. I some how had turned the ring gear pulley groove plate
one stud off and was just hand tighten it. Once I got it holes in the
correct alignment everything was good. All is good and prop is on.
Thanks Geoff
Geoff Combs
President
Aerosport Modeling & Design
8090 Howe Industrial Parkway
Canal Winchester, Ohio 43110
614-834-5227p
614-834-5230f
www.aerosportmodeling.com
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerosport1
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 10:06 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Alternator belt alignment
--> <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com>
I was putting on my alternator today and find that the belt is misaligned by
about 1/3 of the belt width to the belt groove on the engine. I have a
Aerosport engine and the stock PLane Power alternator has any one else seen
this problem? Or is this standard and leave it alone. I would think they
need to be perfectly aligned.
Geoff
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Geoff Combs
RV-10 QB N829GW
Finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Oil door hidden hinge |
YOU shouldn't need to get into the honeycomb areas of the top cowl to attach a hidden hinge here is a link to some pictures I hope will help you understand the process. http://ivankristensen.phanfare.com/2292606_4268126#imageID=77306227
This hidden hinge and the door latches are from Non Stop Aviation
Regards,
Ivan Kristensen
#40838
FF and wiring
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List: Garmin 296 $350 with Gizmo |
Sold. Thanks for the calls--Dave
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Dave Saylor <
dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
> Garmin 296 for sale. I bought it new, and it works great in the air and in
> the car. Lots of accessories: AirGizmo panel mount, car bean bag mount,
> yoke mount, external antenna, external speaker/power cord, 128M data card
> for driving that covers about half the U.S. at a time, AC power, owner's
> manual, more.
>
> $350 plus shipping
>
> --
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters LLC
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
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| Subject: | Re: Oil door hidden hinge - OT |
Ivan, I see you are an RC Pattern flyer. You may know my brother Glen.
I don't think he went to the Nats this year but he won the 07 Masters
and I think he did 2nd last year.
I've got a few backyard flyers here in the shop but can't find the time
to fool around much.
Bill "now ready for the oil door" Watson
ivankris wrote:
>
> YOU shouldn't need to get into the honeycomb areas of the top cowl to attach a hidden hinge here is a link to some pictures I hope will help you understand the process. http://ivankristensen.phanfare.com/2292606_4268126#imageID=77306227
> This hidden hinge and the door latches are from Non Stop Aviation
>
> Regards,
>
> Ivan Kristensen
>
> #40838
>
> FF and wiring
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257821#257821
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| Subject: | How long to build an RV10 |
Was this a QB fuse and wings?
Oh poop=2C I am at 1900 hrs with a QB fuse and wings and about ready to put
the engine on and do the cowl. Started in 2004
Everyone that know me asks=2C "are you done yet?"
I know a guy who said he built one in six months with two people...that's w
hat he said.
John
> Subject: RV10-List: How long to build an RV10
> From: Mikeabel@Pacbell.net
> Date: Sat=2C 15 Aug 2009 10:39:47 -0700
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> A big question that newbees have is how long does it take to build an RV1
0? Well I have a pretty good answer. I am a novice builder=2C with modest m
echanical skills. I was motivated to build a QB myself. I took training fro
m the excellent empenage build class (Wally Anderson) at Synergy in Eugene
OR. I logged my build hours fairly carefully for all 32 months of the build
process. Starting on 1/3/07 to Thursday when it was 100% ready to fly with
FAA EXP certification=2C I logged 2600 hours of my own time and 307 hours
of builder assist and assistance time. Total investment 2907 human hours of
plan study and build. This does not include the many hours on this site an
d sending/receiving e-mails from fellow builders.
>
> --------
> OSH '09 or Bust (busted) be there someday
> Q/B Kit - end game
>
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257815#257815
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| Subject: | How long to build an RV10 |
The correct answer to "are you done yet" is" I will be done on Tuesday".
Some Tuesday some month some year.
Gary Specketer
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: How long to build an RV10
Was this a QB fuse and wings?
Oh poop, I am at 1900 hrs with a QB fuse and wings and about ready to put
the engine on and do the cowl. Started in 2004
Everyone that know me asks, "are you done yet?"
I know a guy who said he built one in six months with two people...that's
what he said.
John
> Subject: RV10-List: How long to build an RV10
> From: Mikeabel@Pacbell.net
> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:39:47 -0700
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> A big question that newbees have is how long does it take to build an
RV10? Well I have a pretty good answer. I am a novice builder, with modest
mechanical skills. I was motivated to build a QB myself. I took training
from the excellent empenage build class (Wally Anderson) at Synergy in
Eugene OR. I logged my build hours fairly carefully for all 32 months of the
build process. Starting on 1/3/07 to Thursday when it was 100% ready to fly
with FAA EXP certification, I logged 2600 hours of my own time and 307 hours
of builder assist and assistance time. Total investment 2907 human hours of
plan study and build. This does not include the many hours on this site and
sending/receiving e-mails from fellow builders.
>
> --------
> OSH '09 or Bust (busted) be there someday
> Q/B Kit - end game
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257815#257815
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| Subject: | Fuel Flow variations |
Is anyone experiencing variations in fuel flow readings?
I am experiencing variations in fuel flow readings of up to .5 gph.
Typically the variations are .1-.3 gph. I've got the flow meter mounted
in the tunnel per Van's plans. And after talking to Don Rivera @ Airflow
Performance, he believes that the variations are due to the location of
the meter. Apparently the optimum location is between the servo and the
distribution spider. I've searched the archives, as I recalled some
dialogue on this subject and basically verified what Don said about
mounting location.
I'm interested to know if others are experiencing similar readings and
any attempts to improve or correct the situation.
Thanks
Deems Davis N519PJ
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: How long to build an RV10 |
I think all of the newbies who have the time should by the slow build.
I am finishing section 29 this week and started the SB kit Feb 3 09. I
don't know how long the wait is right now for the QB kits but it seems
like it's just as fast to build the sb.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gonzalez
To: RV 10 group
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: How long to build an RV10
Was this a QB fuse and wings?
Oh poop, I am at 1900 hrs with a QB fuse and wings and about ready to
put the engine on and do the cowl. Started in 2004
Everyone that know me asks, "are you done yet?"
I know a guy who said he built one in six months with two
people...that's what he said.
John
> Subject: RV10-List: How long to build an RV10
> From: Mikeabel@Pacbell.net
> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:39:47 -0700
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> A big question that newbees have is how long does it take to build
an RV10? Well I have a pretty good answer. I am a novice builder, with
modest mechanical skills. I was motivated to build a QB myself. I took
training from the excellent empenage build class (Wally Anderson) at
Synergy in Eugene OR. I logged my build hours fairly carefully for all
32 months of the build process. Starting on 1/3/07 to Thursday when it
was 100% ready to fly with FAA EXP certification, I logged 2600 hours of
my own time and 307 hours of builder assist and assistance time. Total
investment 2907 human hours of plan study and build. This does not
include the many hours on this site and sending/receiving e-mails from
fellow builders.
>
> --------
> OSH '09 or Bust (busted) be there someday
> Q/B Kit - end game
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257815#257815
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow variations |
There are differing opinions as to where it should go. The problem with
putting it in the line to the spider is that line normally is mostly
vertical, and there is very little horizontal line to insert the sender.
EI, which I think uses the same sender recommends between the mechanical
fuel pump and the fuel servo, unless it is a Continental time injection that
returns fuel to the tank full time. It comes down to where it will
conveniently fit, and have a straight, horizontal line/hose for several
inches before the sending unit.
.1-.2 gph fluctuation is pretty normal, more than that may be a problem. The
connections between the sending unit and the instrument can be an issue.
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Is anyone experiencing variations in fuel flow readings?
> I am experiencing variations in fuel flow readings of up to .5 gph.
> Typically the variations are .1-.3 gph. I've got the flow meter mounted in
> the tunnel per Van's plans. And after talking to Don Rivera @ Airflow
> Performance, he believes that the variations are due to the location of the
> meter. Apparently the optimum location is between the servo and the
> distribution spider. I've searched the archives, as I recalled some dialogue
> on this subject and basically verified what Don said about mounting
> location.
> I'm interested to know if others are experiencing similar readings and any
> attempts to improve or correct the situation.
>
> Thanks
>
> Deems Davis N519PJ
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel Flow variations |
Deems, good timing on your question. Ivan Kristensen and I were having the
same discussion the other day. We too would like to hear from anyone that
mounted there fuel flow sensor in a non-standard location to minimize the
impact of when the fuel pump is engaged.
My memory seems to think that Gary B. may have done this and may have some
data since he's flying now.
Thanks,
Bob
#40684
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:24 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Flow variations
Is anyone experiencing variations in fuel flow readings?
I am experiencing variations in fuel flow readings of up to .5 gph.
Typically the variations are .1-.3 gph. I've got the flow meter mounted
in the tunnel per Van's plans. And after talking to Don Rivera @ Airflow
Performance, he believes that the variations are due to the location of
the meter. Apparently the optimum location is between the servo and the
distribution spider. I've searched the archives, as I recalled some
dialogue on this subject and basically verified what Don said about
mounting location.
I'm interested to know if others are experiencing similar readings and
any attempts to improve or correct the situation.
Thanks
Deems Davis N519PJ
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Fuel Flow variations |
I think you need to put things in perspective. Everyone thinks that if you
have a digital reading that's the last word. It used to be analog needles
and a printed scale on the dial. Fluctuations occurred all the time but
measurements were not precise enough to matter or be discernible. A variety
of things including varying temps or pressures can cause a sensor to output
differently. We are measuring milli and micro values of electricity. It is
quite possible that the fluctuations are within the accuracy of the sensor
but the measurement of the volt or pressure or gph on a digital gauge
pretends to be more precise. That said: my fuel flow bounces around by .1 to
.3 with the engine driven pump. Turn on the boost pump and see the same
mixture setting show many gallons more flow.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:24 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Flow variations
Is anyone experiencing variations in fuel flow readings?
I am experiencing variations in fuel flow readings of up to .5 gph.
Typically the variations are .1-.3 gph. I've got the flow meter mounted in
the tunnel per Van's plans. And after talking to Don Rivera @ Airflow
Performance, he believes that the variations are due to the location of the
meter. Apparently the optimum location is between the servo and the
distribution spider. I've searched the archives, as I recalled some dialogue
on this subject and basically verified what Don said about mounting
location.
I'm interested to know if others are experiencing similar readings and any
attempts to improve or correct the situation.
Thanks
Deems Davis N519PJ
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | How long to build an RV10 |
I'm in Chapter 33 at the moment and at 1044 hours of time (2.5 years
duration). Standard build all the way. I suspect I'm probably about half
way done.
Bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: How long to build an RV10
I think all of the newbies who have the time should by the slow build. I am
finishing section 29 this week and started the SB kit Feb 3 09. I don't know
how long the wait is right now for the QB kits but it seems like it's just
as fast to build the sb.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gonzalez <mailto:indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: How long to build an RV10
Was this a QB fuse and wings?
Oh poop, I am at 1900 hrs with a QB fuse and wings and about ready to put
the engine on and do the cowl. Started in 2004
Everyone that know me asks, "are you done yet?"
I know a guy who said he built one in six months with two people...that's
what he said.
John
> Subject: RV10-List: How long to build an RV10
> From: Mikeabel@Pacbell.net
> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:39:47 -0700
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> A big question that newbees have is how long does it take to build an
RV10? Well I have a pretty good answer. I am a novice builder, with modest
mechanical skills. I was motivated to build a QB myself. I took training
from the excellent empenage build class (Wally Anderson) at Synergy in
Eugene OR. I logged my build hours fairly carefully for all 32 months of the
build process. Starting on 1/3/07 to Thursday when it was 100% ready to fly
with FAA EXP certification, I logged 2600 hours of my own time and 307 hours
of builder assist and assistance time. Total investment 2907 human hours of
plan study and build. This does not include the many hours on this site and
sending/receiving e-mails from fellow builders.
>
> --------
> OSH '09 or Bust (busted) be there someday
> Q/B Kit - end game
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257815#257815
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow variations |
Yes, this is the consensus of AFS, EI, Airflow et al. For this reason as
well as easier access to the transducer, I have moved my fuel flow
transducer from the tunnel to the servo output port. With some additional
parts from AN Plumbing<http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/index.php?shop=&dept=Steel>,
I was able to put it there without any change to the hoses.
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Is anyone experiencing variations in fuel flow readings?
> I am experiencing variations in fuel flow readings of up to .5 gph.
> Typically the variations are .1-.3 gph. I've got the flow meter mounted in
> the tunnel per Van's plans. And after talking to Don Rivera @ Airflow
> Performance, he believes that the variations are due to the location of the
> meter. Apparently the optimum location is between the servo and the
> distribution spider. I've searched the archives, as I recalled some dialogue
> on this subject and basically verified what Don said about mounting
> location.
> I'm interested to know if others are experiencing similar readings and any
> attempts to improve or correct the situation.
>
> Thanks
>
> Deems Davis N519PJ
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
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| Subject: | Like Seeing a Rock Star... |
I took the kids to lunch today at EMT (where I just finished my BFR
after a 10 year layoff)... We were watching the planes come and go
when a beautiful low wing aircraft landed and taxied toward us.
"That can't be an RV-10 I said to myself... and with the White/Yellow/
Blue paint job that was becoming more clear as the plane drew closer,
I knew that it certainly couldn't be "that" RV-10... but it was...
N410RV with Gus in the left seat and I felt like Elvis just walked in
to my living room. What a thrill.
Gus graciously answered the first 30 or so questions I had as I
scrutinized the fiber glass details that have so occupied my mind over
the last few months. Then he had to load up his passengers and head
off to Camarillo for an RV-12 dog and pony show today. I took a few
low grade pics with the iphone as he rotated and disappeared off to
the West.
Can anyone watch my kids for a few hours today? I've got some sanding
to do...
Jeff Carpenter
40304
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| Subject: | Re: How long to build an RV10 |
I did a slow build. Only recorded the time for the sections from Van's. Didn't
record the time for wiring design, instrument panel cutting and install, etc.
In months it took 29 months and 25 days from receiving the emp kit to first
flight.
About 99.9% of the work was at home. Unless you live on the airport, when you
move to the airport, progress will come to a screeching snails pace.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow variations |
I have no problems following AFS's recommendations as others here have also noted.
The engine shop provided me with the new hoses.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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| Subject: | Re: How long to build an RV10 |
I'm slow build all the way... just now coming up on 2400 hours and
about 1/2 way through the doors... I think (no idea why) I'm about
400-600 hours away from the finish line.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
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On Aug 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, AirMike wrote:
>
> A big question that newbees have is how long does it take to build
> an RV10? Well I have a pretty good answer. I am a novice builder,
> with modest mechanical skills. I was motivated to build a QB
> myself. I took training from the excellent empenage build class
> (Wally Anderson) at Synergy in Eugene OR. I logged my build hours
> fairly carefully for all 32 months of the build process. Starting on
> 1/3/07 to Thursday when it was 100% ready to fly with FAA EXP
> certification, I logged 2600 hours of my own time and 307 hours of
> builder assist and assistance time. Total investment 2907 human
> hours of plan study and build. This does not include the many hours
> on this site and sending/receiving e-mails from fellow builders.
>
> --------
> OSH '09 or Bust (busted) be there someday
> Q/B Kit - end game
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257815#257815
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil door hidden hinge |
Thanks for the pics. Yes, I thought that's what I would be doing but
I've already cut too big a hole and am planning a slightly larger door
and door opening. Note to self; cut a small hole then enlarge as more
is learned.
Nice site and pics. Thanks!
vankris wrote:
>
> YOU shouldn't need to get into the honeycomb areas of the top cowl to attach a hidden hinge here is a link to some pictures I hope will help you understand the process. http://ivankristensen.phanfare.com/2292606_4268126#imageID=77306227
> This hidden hinge and the door latches are from Non Stop Aviation
>
> Regards,
>
> Ivan Kristensen
>
> #40838
>
> FF and wiring
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257821#257821
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| Subject: | Fuel Flow variations |
I too get variations using the stock location. In a previous aircraft I had
it located between the servo and the spider with good success, but as
pointed out, I did not have digital readout on it. I am tempted to move
mine, but would really like to get input from those who have found a rock
steady location.
Gary Specketer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Flow variations
Is anyone experiencing variations in fuel flow readings?
I am experiencing variations in fuel flow readings of up to .5 gph.
Typically the variations are .1-.3 gph. I've got the flow meter mounted
in the tunnel per Van's plans. And after talking to Don Rivera @ Airflow
Performance, he believes that the variations are due to the location of
the meter. Apparently the optimum location is between the servo and the
distribution spider. I've searched the archives, as I recalled some
dialogue on this subject and basically verified what Don said about
mounting location.
I'm interested to know if others are experiencing similar readings and
any attempts to improve or correct the situation.
Thanks
Deems Davis N519PJ
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Artex ME406 - are they shipping yet? |
I have one backordered at AS and wondering if they are shipping from
anywhere yet.
Hoping to install it before closing up the battery bay.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: How long to build an RV10 |
I'm coming up in my 36th month after starting my build at Ron
Alexander's builders assist shop.
Did a QB and have an ideal building situation so I'm able to do
something on most days. But I'm far from being a dedicated builder. I
don't have any idea how many hours I've spent.
If things go well, I hope to be flying 12 months from now having done my
own panel and own paint. We'll see.
Bill "FWF" Watson
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| Subject: | Fuel Flow variations |
On the Matronics web site Matt used to sell a small spherical device to put
in the line to dampen out pulsations to improve accuracy or minimize
disturbances. Sort of like a "water hammer" shock absorber put in your
water line at home.
Might be worth a try...
See: http://www.matronics.com/fuelchec/dampener.html
Richard Bibb
972-771-2598
972-835-5979 mobile
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:25 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Flow variations
I too get variations using the stock location. In a previous aircraft I had
it located between the servo and the spider with good success, but as
pointed out, I did not have digital readout on it. I am tempted to move
mine, but would really like to get input from those who have found a rock
steady location.
Gary Specketer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Flow variations
Is anyone experiencing variations in fuel flow readings?
I am experiencing variations in fuel flow readings of up to .5 gph.
Typically the variations are .1-.3 gph. I've got the flow meter mounted
in the tunnel per Van's plans. And after talking to Don Rivera @ Airflow
Performance, he believes that the variations are due to the location of
the meter. Apparently the optimum location is between the servo and the
distribution spider. I've searched the archives, as I recalled some
dialogue on this subject and basically verified what Don said about
mounting location.
I'm interested to know if others are experiencing similar readings and
any attempts to improve or correct the situation.
Thanks
Deems Davis N519PJ
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Fuel Flow variations |
I found photo's of Rob Hickman's installation:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/RobHickmanAFS/SNltW4FJUII/AAAAAAAAAQo/sX7EW06y0Zg/s800/
Fuel%20Flow%20Transducer.jpg
Gary Blankenbiller's at:
http://www.wingscc.com/n2gb/FF1-Engine/100_3207.jpg
Looking at the install procedures for the EI FT-60 on EI's site (which is
used by several of the EFIS vendors):
1. Find a convenient location between the Fuel Servo and Flow
Divider and away from any hot exhaust pipes to suspend the
Fuel Flow Transducer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Flow variations
I too get variations using the stock location. In a previous aircraft I had
it located between the servo and the spider with good success, but as
pointed out, I did not have digital readout on it. I am tempted to move
mine, but would really like to get input from those who have found a rock
steady location.
Gary Specketer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Flow variations
Is anyone experiencing variations in fuel flow readings?
I am experiencing variations in fuel flow readings of up to .5 gph.
Typically the variations are .1-.3 gph. I've got the flow meter mounted
in the tunnel per Van's plans. And after talking to Don Rivera @ Airflow
Performance, he believes that the variations are due to the location of
the meter. Apparently the optimum location is between the servo and the
distribution spider. I've searched the archives, as I recalled some
dialogue on this subject and basically verified what Don said about
mounting location.
I'm interested to know if others are experiencing similar readings and
any attempts to improve or correct the situation.
Thanks
Deems Davis N519PJ
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow variations |
FF is definitely more stable measured between the servo and the spider. I
moved my sender because of the erroneous reading with the boost pump on, and
I'm happy with the results. I do see very minor fluctuations now and then,
but I suspect that with an analog instrument, you would never notice. It's
just that digital instruments are so...digital.
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM, gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I too get variations using the stock location. In a previous aircraft I
> had
> it located between the servo and the spider with good success, but as
> pointed out, I did not have digital readout on it. I am tempted to move
> mine, but would really like to get input from those who have found a rock
> steady location.
>
> Gary Specketer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:24 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Flow variations
>
>
> Is anyone experiencing variations in fuel flow readings?
> I am experiencing variations in fuel flow readings of up to .5 gph.
> Typically the variations are .1-.3 gph. I've got the flow meter mounted
> in the tunnel per Van's plans. And after talking to Don Rivera @ Airflow
> Performance, he believes that the variations are due to the location of
> the meter. Apparently the optimum location is between the servo and the
> distribution spider. I've searched the archives, as I recalled some
> dialogue on this subject and basically verified what Don said about
> mounting location.
> I'm interested to know if others are experiencing similar readings and
> any attempts to improve or correct the situation.
>
> Thanks
>
> Deems Davis N519PJ
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
--
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
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| Subject: | Re: Door seal info |
I am going to order both sizes, and will report back in a couple of weeks if the
1/8" bulb works out. The flange size is the same. The stock seals are not
doing the job, so back to the dust buster...
Thanks all.
--------
Frank Dombroski
RV-10 N46WD Flying
RV-8 N84FD final assembly
N40 Sky Manor Airport
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| Subject: | Re: Oil door hidden hinge - OT |
Glen Watson? No I don't think I know him. This year is the first time back to the
US Pattern Nationals in about 10 years so I have been out of the "Pattern"
loop for a few years.
Building the RV-10 is taking most of my time these days but I still find some time
to go the the R/C field now and then.
Ivan Kristensen
#40838
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| Subject: | Re: How long to build an RV10 |
IMHO it takes as long as it takes. The variables of: builder
experience, fast/slow build, amount of contracted work (paint, avionics,
interior, builder assist etc.) personal situation, $$, retired/working
full time are so broad that there is no good answer.
I would suggest that a builder proceed at whatever is a comfortable pace
as his or her circumstances allow. Too fast risks burn-out, mistakes,
and family issues. Rather than set deadlines or unrealistic goals try
to do something or a regular schedule and before you know it a completed
airplane will be sitting on the ramp ready to be flown.
Keep the pace at an enjoyable level without obsessing.
Our first project, an RV-4 took (classified # years over 10), I was
working two flying jobs and was away from the project often. That's my
story and I'm stickin' to it.
The second project, a slow build -10 was finished in about 4 years.
This time the kit was way more advanced, I was retired, and the avionics
was sub-contracted.
As for actual hours? Probably pretty close to what Mike reported.
The most important thing is to have fun doing it.
Tailwinds
Dick Sipp
RV4 sold, RV-10 N110DV 170 hours
> Subject: RV10-List: How long to build an RV10
> From: Mikeabel@Pacbell.net
> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:39:47 -0700
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> A big question that newbees have is how long does it take to build
an RV10? Well I have a pretty good answer. I am a novice builder, with
modest mechanical skills. I was motivated to build a QB myself. I took
training from the excellent empenage build class (Wally Anderson) at
Synergy in Eugene OR. I logged my build hours fairly carefully for all
32 months of the build process. Starting on 1/3/07 to Thursday when it
was 100% ready to fly with FAA EXP certification, I logged 2600 hours of
my own time and 307 hours of builder assist and assistance time. Total
investment 2907 human hours of plan study and build. This does not
include the many hours on this site and sending/receiving e-mails from
fellow builders.
>
> --------
> OSH '09 or Bust (busted) be there someday
> Q/B Kit - end game
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257815#257815
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: How long to build an RV10 |
Hi
We are the guilty ones. We built an RV10 in 6 months. It sounds
unbelievable but you have to remember that my husband took a break
from building houses and was working on it full time with another guy
for that time.
We also had another guy helping and supervising quality etc (he had
built an RV7 and just loved being around helping). All in all it took
over 2000 hours to build but with 2 guys going from 8 to 5:30 and one
pottering over the weekend and evenings and another helping out and
giving advice. We had a great team of aviation specialists who were on
hand to come and look at things we weren't sure of, or just offer
advice. The door was open to CAA all the time so that everyone new
what was going on. It is a family plane and we wanted to make sure it
was safe.
Sarah
ZK RVT
On 16/08/2009, at 7:06 AM, John Gonzalez wrote:
> Was this a QB fuse and wings?
>
> Oh poop, I am at 1900 hrs with a QB fuse and wings and about ready
> to put the engine on and do the cowl. Started in 2004
>
> Everyone that know me asks, "are you done yet?"
>
> I know a guy who said he built one in six months with two
> people...that's what he said.
>
> John
>
> > Subject: RV10-List: How long to build an RV10
> > From: Mikeabel@Pacbell.net
> > Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:39:47 -0700
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> > A big question that newbees have is how long does it take to build
> an RV10? Well I have a pretty good answer. I am a novice builder,
> with modest mechanical skills. I was motivated to build a QB myself.
> I took training from the excellent empenage build class (Wally
> Anderson) at Synergy in Eugene OR. I logged my build hours fairly
> carefully for all 32 months of the build process. Starting on 1/3/07
> to Thursday when it was 100% ready to fly with FAA EXP
> certification, I logged 2600 hours of my own time and 307 hours of
> builder assist and assistance time. Total investment 2907 human
> hours of plan study and build. This does not include the many hours
> on this site and sending/receiving e-mails from fellow builders.
> >
> > --------
> > OSH '09 or Bust (busted) be there someday
> > Q/B Kit - end game
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257815#257815
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: How long to build an RV10 |
Well Said Richard.- It seems each build-will be a little different.-
In my case, I had no aviation knowledge or experience, including ZERO fligh
t time...... but I did have some metal working experience, and enough smart
s to know that in order to have a completed project, it boiled down to one
main thing..... putting in the hours.- I logged every hour on the project
, including anyone who helped even for an hour, and even logged the non pro
ductive time when I-might have been just thinking about what to do next..
(luckily, those hours were not logged seperately)- .... the air worthine
ss cert was issued 2.5 years after receipt of the emp boxes, and I had logg
ed approximately 5,000 hours.- Ok, it was more than 5,000.... 5,229.
But I have a storage spot for the longer golf clubs, cold air induction, an
d other than paint, did everything myself.- Although in hindsite, I would
hire certain things out if I did this again!
And for what it's worth, it's one of the most satisfying and fun projects I
've ever done.
Which, of course, is why I finished the airplane 2 months before completing
the training for my private pilot license.
Don McDonald
#40636 Flying - 65 hours - and headed for Van's Flyin the 28th.
-
--- On Sat, 8/15/09, richard sipp <rsipp@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: richard sipp <rsipp@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: How long to build an RV10
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IMHO it takes as long as it takes.- The variables of: builder experience,
fast/slow build, amount of contracted work (paint, avionics, interior, bui
lder assist etc.) personal situation, $$, retired/working full time are so
broad that there is no good answer.-
-
I would suggest that a builder proceed at whatever is a comfortable pace as
his or her circumstances allow.- Too fast risks burn-out, mistakes, and
family issues.- Rather than set deadlines or unrealistic goals try to do
something or a regular schedule and before you know it a completed airplane
will be sitting on the ramp ready to be flown.
Keep the pace at an enjoyable level without obsessing.
-
Our first project, an RV-4 took (classified # years over 10), I was working
two flying jobs and was away from the project often. That's my story and I
'm stickin' to it.
The second project, a slow build -10 was finished in about 4 years.- This
time the kit was way more advanced, I was retired, and the avionics was su
b-contracted.
-
As for actual hours?- Probably pretty close to what Mike reported.
-
The most important thing is to have fun doing it.
-
Tailwinds
Dick Sipp
RV4 sold, RV-10 N110DV 170 hours
-
> Subject: RV10-List: How long to build an RV10
> From: Mikeabel@Pacbell.net
> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:39:47 -0700
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> A big question that newbees have is how long does it take to build an RV1
0? Well I have a pretty good answer. I am a novice builder, with modest mec
hanical skills. I was motivated to build a QB myself. I took training from
the excellent empenage build class (Wally Anderson) at Synergy in Eugene OR
. I logged my build hours fairly carefully for all 32 months of the build p
rocess. Starting on 1/3/07 to Thursday when it was 100% ready to fly with F
AA EXP certification, I logged 2600 hours of my own time and 307 hours of b
uilder assist and assistance time. Total investment 2907 human hours of pla
n study and build. This does not include the many hours on this site and se
nding/receiving e-mails from fellow builders.
>
> --------
> OSH '09 or Bust (busted) be there someday
> Q/B Kit - end game
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257815#257815
>
>
>
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>
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