---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/20/09: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:32 AM - Re: Overhead Console (orchidman) 2. 04:43 AM - Re: Door locks (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 3. 05:52 AM - Re: Re: Overhead Console (Seano) 4. 06:41 AM - Re: Re: Overhead Console (Bob Leffler) 5. 07:12 AM - Re: Re: Overhead Console (John Strain) 6. 09:29 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Les Kearney) 7. 09:45 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Strasnuts) 8. 10:14 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Robin Marks) 9. 10:17 AM - Re: Re: Overhead Console (Bob-tcw) 10. 12:15 PM - Re: Re: Overhead Console (Richard Bibb) 11. 12:21 PM - Re: Re: Overhead Console (Les Kearney) 12. 10:19 PM - Re: Oil Cooler Size On RV-10...? (AirMike) 13. 10:50 PM - Another Flying RV10 for the book (AirMike) 14. 10:53 PM - Re: Re: Oil Cooler Size On RV-10...? (Don McDonald) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:08 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console From: "orchidman" Strasnuts wrote: > I am getting ready to order an overhead console. Anyone have one they REALLY like? or suggest? I have the one that Stein now sells. After you get the top fit, pull it off and fit the overhead while the top is upside down on some sawhorses. Use some of the rubber seal to seal the aft edge against the rear bulkhead. Install 2 of the scat tube flanges to the aft side of the bulkhead and add 2 naca inlets to provide the air. You will get a bunch of air out of this configuration even with all 4 vents open. Some of my pictures can be seen at http://www.wingscc.com/N2GB/43-CabinCover/100_2897.html -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N2GB Flying) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258795#258795 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:36 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door locks Geoff, Is this what you are looking for? http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=msausen&project=22&category=0&log=65696&row http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=msausen&project=22&category=0&log=84813&row=10 Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerosport1 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:59 PM Subject: RV10-List: Door locks I have seen some door locks with the stock door handles that are about 2 inches in front of the outside door handle. Can anyone post some pictures on how these were done with the stock door hardware on the inside of the door. Thanks Geoff -------- Geoff Combs RV-10 QB N829GW Finishing Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258780#258780 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:14 AM PST US From: "Seano" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console That is exactly the info I was hoping for. Thanks for the reply Orchidman. (Is that a super hero?) ----- Original Message ----- From: "orchidman" Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console > > > Strasnuts wrote: >> I am getting ready to order an overhead console. Anyone have one they >> REALLY like? or suggest? > > I have the one that Stein now sells. After you get the top fit, pull it > off and fit the overhead while the top is upside down on some sawhorses. > Use some of the rubber seal to seal the aft edge against the rear > bulkhead. Install 2 of the scat tube flanges to the aft side of the > bulkhead and add 2 naca inlets to provide the air. You will get a bunch > of air out of this configuration even with all 4 vents open. > > Some of my pictures can be seen at > http://www.wingscc.com/N2GB/43-CabinCover/100_2897.html > > -------- > Gary Blankenbiller > RV10 - # 40674 > (N2GB Flying) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258795#258795 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:07 AM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console Sean, Depending on how urgent your need is, Aerosport Products should have a carbon fiber overhead available shortly. If you were at OSH, you may have saw Aerosport's carbon fiber instrument panel at either SteinAir's or AFS's booth. Geoff also had product at the RV-10 HQ at Camp Scholler. The advantages are that the carbon fiber will be lighter than the fiberglass overhead. If you have a newer (i.e. pink) canopy, these should fit better than previously available consoles. With the inconsistencies of the green canopies, it's amazing that anything fit well. The product is in the final design stage and Geoff should have the initial prototype available soon. He had my pink canopy scanned and digitized, which is why I'm aware of the product. Also, I am also helping him with getting his website online (which should be live soon). bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:46 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console That is exactly the info I was hoping for. Thanks for the reply Orchidman. (Is that a super hero?) ----- Original Message ----- From: "orchidman" Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console > > > Strasnuts wrote: >> I am getting ready to order an overhead console. Anyone have one they >> REALLY like? or suggest? > > I have the one that Stein now sells. After you get the top fit, pull it > off and fit the overhead while the top is upside down on some sawhorses. > Use some of the rubber seal to seal the aft edge against the rear > bulkhead. Install 2 of the scat tube flanges to the aft side of the > bulkhead and add 2 naca inlets to provide the air. You will get a bunch > of air out of this configuration even with all 4 vents open. > > Some of my pictures can be seen at > http://www.wingscc.com/N2GB/43-CabinCover/100_2897.html > > -------- > Gary Blankenbiller > RV10 - # 40674 > (N2GB Flying) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258795#258795 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:54 AM PST US From: "John Strain" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console Check out www.flightlineac.com. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:31 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console Strasnuts wrote: > I am getting ready to order an overhead console. Anyone have one they REALLY like? or suggest? I have the one that Stein now sells. After you get the top fit, pull it off and fit the overhead while the top is upside down on some sawhorses. Use some of the rubber seal to seal the aft edge against the rear bulkhead. Install 2 of the scat tube flanges to the aft side of the bulkhead and add 2 naca inlets to provide the air. You will get a bunch of air out of this configuration even with all 4 vents open. Some of my pictures can be seen at http://www.wingscc.com/N2GB/43-CabinCover/100_2897.html -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N2GB Flying) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258795#258795 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:29:02 AM PST US From: "Les Kearney" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console Sean I have seen Stien's console on a couple of -10s at KOSH and they are very nice. If you are a bit more ambitious, you might want to take a page out of John G's book and make your own. Attached are a couple of photos of my "amateur built" console that was built using John's technique. It took a more than a few hours but was good f/g practise for a neophyte. I am, now more comfortable with f/g although I still hate sanding the damn stuff. I plan to have the canopy interior painted in a couple of weeks by a professional shop. Painting is one thing I don't want to do because I don't the requisite skills or equipment. and expect it to look quite respectable. The "long runs" were fabbed using 3/4" foam about 12" wide. The raised vent holders were fabbed from shaped foam. The holes in mine are for eyeball lights and Steins eyeball vents. Speaking of vents, don't bother with anyone else's vents. I bought some Aveo vents from ACS and sent them back and got Stien's which really are far superior. Cheers Les #40643 - Living in a f/g world -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts Sent: August-19-09 9:36 PM Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Console I am getting ready to order an overhead console. Anyone have one they REALLY like? or suggest? -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258777#258777 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:14 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console From: "Strasnuts" Those look nice Les. If I had to order today I would buy Stein's with the black vents and map lights. I am very interested in the carbon fiber one. I didn't realize that I should fit the cabin top and then mount the console. That sounds logical. I am just finishing section 29 so I will be ordering soon. I hope the carbon fiber one will be available by the time I am ready. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258847#258847 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:14:42 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console From: "Robin Marks" Sean, I agree with everything said to date. I especially like the build your own if you want to save $ and have something specific to your needs. Obviously a few more hours will be needed. That being said when we were building the AA was the only game in town so we installed that poor fitting piece of... Fiberglass on our old style canopy. Something about a monkey and a football. If I were doing it again today I would wait for the carbon fiber one before deciding. If it's anything like the panels they offer it should be sensational. Here is a link to my OH build: http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/console.htm Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:01 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console Sean I have seen Stien's console on a couple of -10s at KOSH and they are very nice. If you are a bit more ambitious, you might want to take a page out of John G's book and make your own. Attached are a couple of photos of my "amateur built" console that was built using John's technique. It took a more than a few hours but was good f/g practise for a neophyte. I am, now more comfortable with f/g although I still hate sanding the damn stuff. I plan to have the canopy interior painted in a couple of weeks by a professional shop. Painting is one thing I don't want to do because I don't the requisite skills or equipment. and expect it to look quite respectable. The "long runs" were fabbed using 3/4" foam about 12" wide. The raised vent holders were fabbed from shaped foam. The holes in mine are for eyeball lights and Steins eyeball vents. Speaking of vents, don't bother with anyone else's vents. I bought some Aveo vents from ACS and sent them back and got Stien's which really are far superior. Cheers Les #40643 - Living in a f/g world -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts Sent: August-19-09 9:36 PM Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Console I am getting ready to order an overhead console. Anyone have one they REALLY like? or suggest? -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258777#258777 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:40 AM PST US From: "Bob-tcw" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console If you are interested in a DIY overhead console here's the link to my web album. Go to the chapter titled "fiberglass work" starting around photo 111 there's a progression of the overhead I did for my rv-10. It's being fed air from naca scoops in the rear with the addition of two axial fans to provide airflow while on the ground. http://picasaweb.google.com/rcnewman64 Bob Newman www.tcwtech.com #40176 glass work and panel and wiring and stuff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Strain" Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:07 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console > > Check out www.flightlineac.com. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:31 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console > > > > Strasnuts wrote: >> I am getting ready to order an overhead console. Anyone have one they > REALLY like? or suggest? > > I have the one that Stein now sells. After you get the top fit, pull it > off > and fit the overhead while the top is upside down on some sawhorses. > Use some of the rubber seal to seal the aft edge against the rear > bulkhead. > Install 2 of the scat tube flanges to the aft side of the bulkhead and add > 2 > naca inlets to provide the air. You will get a bunch of air out of this > configuration even with all 4 vents open. > > Some of my pictures can be seen at > http://www.wingscc.com/N2GB/43-CabinCover/100_2897.html > > -------- > Gary Blankenbiller > RV10 - # 40674 > (N2GB Flying) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258795#258795 > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:15:16 PM PST US From: "Richard Bibb" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console Bob: OT but that is one nice looking workshop with the Post and Beam construction. I expected to see Norm Abrams show up in the picture sequence somewhere.... Not too shabby looking fiberglass boat looking thing with all the holes in it either.... :) Richard Bibb 972-771-2598 972-835-5979 mobile -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob-tcw Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:16 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console If you are interested in a DIY overhead console here's the link to my web album. Go to the chapter titled "fiberglass work" starting around photo 111 there's a progression of the overhead I did for my rv-10. It's being fed air from naca scoops in the rear with the addition of two axial fans to provide airflow while on the ground. http://picasaweb.google.com/rcnewman64 Bob Newman www.tcwtech.com #40176 glass work and panel and wiring and stuff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Strain" Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:07 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console > > Check out www.flightlineac.com. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:31 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console > > > > Strasnuts wrote: >> I am getting ready to order an overhead console. Anyone have one they > REALLY like? or suggest? > > I have the one that Stein now sells. After you get the top fit, pull it > off > and fit the overhead while the top is upside down on some sawhorses. > Use some of the rubber seal to seal the aft edge against the rear > bulkhead. > Install 2 of the scat tube flanges to the aft side of the bulkhead and add > 2 > naca inlets to provide the air. You will get a bunch of air out of this > configuration even with all 4 vents open. > > Some of my pictures can be seen at > http://www.wingscc.com/N2GB/43-CabinCover/100_2897.html > > -------- > Gary Blankenbiller > RV10 - # 40674 > (N2GB Flying) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258795#258795 > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:21:21 PM PST US From: "Les Kearney" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console Sean Amy way you slice it, the canopy and doors will require a lot of work. My "pink doors" have / had a lot of voids were it appears that the mold was not clean when the doors were made. As well my "green canopy" was a real treat cleaning up. Stien's stuff is great although I used the ACS eyeball LED lights and his vents. Cheers les -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts Sent: August-20-09 10:45 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console Those look nice Les. If I had to order today I would buy Stein's with the black vents and map lights. I am very interested in the carbon fiber one. I didn't realize that I should fit the cabin top and then mount the console. That sounds logical. I am just finishing section 29 so I will be ordering soon. I hope the carbon fiber one will be available by the time I am ready. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258847#258847 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:19:06 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Oil Cooler Size On RV-10...? From: "AirMike" I do not know about Van's, but Alex DeDominicis (Aviation tech products)sells one that has the identical dimensions as Van's unit for the 10 and supposedly has 20% better cooling. Alex is a good guy and with the difference from the cost of the Van's product - it was about $100 more. Seems to work fine. -------- OSH '09 or Bust (busted) be there someday Q/B Kit - end game Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258936#258936 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:39 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Another Flying RV10 for the book From: "AirMike" RV-10 Q/B kit #40663 lifted off with Mike Seager at the controls on Thursday August 13th 2009 at Minden, Nevada. AirMike now with 2 hrs. in the beast. http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/flights.htm A sincere thanks to all the great folks on this list without whose help the task would have been much more difficult. Special koddos to Tim Olson, Dave M, Dave Saylor, Matt, Gary, Albert, Deems, William C.,Scott, Kelly M, Jesse, Stein, Bob C., John C., Jae C., and anyone else whom I may have forgotten. For the newbees starting their projects this forum will yield to you a better and safer aircraft and the opportunity to meet (even electronically) a great group of fine folks. Read Matt's rules - be positive, and do not be afraid to ask what you might think is a foolish question. Respect and helpfulness keeps this a great forum. Fly safe - have fun -------- OSH '09 or Bust (busted) be there someday Q/B Kit - end game Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258937#258937 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:53:18 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Oil Cooler Size On RV-10...? Ditto on the unit from Alex.... with the exception of the reduction in cool ing... certainly NOT 20%.... considering 200 degrees, we'd be talking about a 40 degree reduction.- Plan on a reduction of between 5 and 15. Don McDonald --- On Thu, 8/20/09, AirMike wrote: From: AirMike Subject: RV10-List: Re: Oil Cooler Size On RV-10...? I do not know about Van's, but Alex- DeDominicis (Aviation tech products) sells one that has the identical dimensions as Van's unit for the 10 and su pposedly has 20% better cooling. Alex is a good guy and with the difference from the cost of the Van's product - it was about $100 more. Seems to work fine. -------- OSH '09 or Bust (busted) be there someday Q/B Kit - end game Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258936#258936 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.