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1. 03:38 AM - Wanted SL-30 (Chris and Susie)
2. 06:25 AM - Re: Wanted SL-30 (David McNeill)
3. 02:25 PM - Re: Wanted SL-30 (Chris and Susie)
4. 03:36 PM - QB wing bag table of contents (woxofswa)
5. 03:52 PM - Re: QB wing bag table of contents (dogsbark@comcast.net)
6. 04:03 PM - Re: QB wing bag table of contents (woxofswa)
7. 04:03 PM - Re: QB wing bag table of contents (woxofswa)
8. 04:04 PM - Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? (Chris Colohan)
9. 04:48 PM - Re: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? (Rene)
10. 05:52 PM - Re: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? (pilotdds@aol.com)
11. 06:11 PM - Re: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? (David McNeill)
12. 06:57 PM - Re: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? (Bob Turner)
13. 07:01 PM - Re: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? (Dave Saylor)
14. 08:18 PM - LOP (Lean of Peak) Injector Tuning (Tim Olson)
15. 08:18 PM - LOP (Lean of Peak) Injector Tuning (Tim Olson)
16. 08:37 PM - IO-540 online manual - Lew (Lew Gallagher)
17. 08:54 PM - LOP (David McNeill)
18. 09:58 PM - Re: LOP (Lean of Peak) Injector Tuning (richard sipp)
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Guys i am after a SL-30 for the 10 and wish to sell a SL-40 in perfect
working order with AD done.
Need the SL-30 to make the 10 NVFR
Also need a VOR indicator and antenna if anyone has these for sale
Please email direct and not to the list
regards chris vhmum@bigpond.com
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If you already have an EFIS it is possible to display CDI info on the EFIS
screen. I am doing this with both GRT Sport and Chelton screens. It is
possible on Dynon and and AFS and possibly others.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 3:37 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Wanted SL-30
Guys i am after a SL-30 for the 10 and wish to sell a SL-40 in perfect
working order with AD done.
Need the SL-30 to make the 10 NVFR
Also need a VOR indicator and antenna if anyone has these for sale
Please email direct and not to the list
regards chris vhmum@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Re: Wanted SL-30 |
Thanks David yes and we might go this way
Chris
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From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:54 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wanted SL-30
>
> If you already have an EFIS it is possible to display CDI info on the
> EFIS
> screen. I am doing this with both GRT Sport and Chelton screens. It is
> possible on Dynon and and AFS and possibly others.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 3:37 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Wanted SL-30
>
>
> Guys i am after a SL-30 for the 10 and wish to sell a SL-40 in perfect
> working order with AD done.
>
> Need the SL-30 to make the 10 NVFR
>
> Also need a VOR indicator and antenna if anyone has these for sale
>
> Please email direct and not to the list
>
> regards chris vhmum@bigpond.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | QB wing bag table of contents |
Anyone have a link to a copy of the table of bag contents for the QB wing kit.
Please be so kind as to post a link, email, or fax.
It would be much appreciated
Myron
woxof@aol.com
fax 480 834 9825
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress
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| Subject: | Re: QB wing bag table of contents |
Myron,
This may be what you need from Tim Olsen's site:=C2- http://www.myrv10.co
m/files/kitparts/WingKitHardwareBags.pdf
If not, it should get you in the correct neighborhood on his site.
Sean
Do not archive
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From: "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:36:01 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: RV10-List: QB wing bag table of contents
Anyone have a link to a copy of the table of bag contents for the QB wing k
it.
Please be so kind as to post a link, email, or fax.
It would be much appreciated
Myron
woxof@aol.com
fax 480 834 9825
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Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress
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| Subject: | Re: QB wing bag table of contents |
Thanks, that is exactly what I need, unfortunately for a QB instead. The bag numbers
are different.
Appreciate the response though.
Myron
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress
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| Subject: | Re: QB wing bag table of contents |
Thanks, that is exactly what I need, unfortunately for a QB instead. The bag numbers
are different.
Appreciate the response though.
Myron
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress
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| Subject: | Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
Hi there!
I'm trying to decide whether or not I want to jump into the pool and start
building an rv-10. (Step 2: figure out if I can actually afford it.)
Before I make that leap, I thought it might be a good idea to take a look
at the finished product, and to perhaps help out with some building tasks to
make sure it is really the kind of thing I'd like to spend several years
doing. :-)
So, I'm asking:
1. Is there anyone with a finished (or nearly finished) rv-10 in the Bay
Area (or within a 100nm flight or so and near an airport) who might be
interested in showing off their work?
2. Is there anyone working on a plane who might find a second pair of
somewhat-handy hands useful? (I hear offering to hold a bucking bar is a
good thing -- but I've never set real rivets, only pop rivets, so I can't
offer loads of experience.)
3. Has anyone on this list nearly finished and have a good estimate of what
the finished product cost to build? I fear that the estimates on Van's site
might be hopelessly optimistic, and seeing some actual numbers might improve
my confidence in my building decision.
I tried heading up to Golden West to see all the planes, but the Cessna I
rented failed a mag check (and refused to clear) after waiting 30 minutes
for an IFR release. (Urk.)
Thanks!
Chris
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| Subject: | Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
Can not help you with the building part, but the Price part...
A Very conservative number for my airplane is ~160,000 before taxes. It
can
be done cheaper, I could have spent less on the engine and a little less
on
the panel. I purchased the interior and had it painted. I also have a
$6,000+ O2 System, but you need to get what you really need..want.during
the
build, it will be hard to do it later. The O2 was real important for me
because my wife gets air sick whenever we fly over 10k w/o O2. It has
worked great.
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Colohan
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area?
Hi there!
I'm trying to decide whether or not I want to jump into the pool and
start
building an rv-10. (Step 2: figure out if I can actually afford it.)
Before I make that leap, I thought it might be a good idea to take a
look at
the finished product, and to perhaps help out with some building tasks
to
make sure it is really the kind of thing I'd like to spend several years
doing. :-)
So, I'm asking:
1. Is there anyone with a finished (or nearly finished) rv-10 in the
Bay
Area (or within a 100nm flight or so and near an airport) who might be
interested in showing off their work?
2. Is there anyone working on a plane who might find a second pair of
somewhat-handy hands useful? (I hear offering to hold a bucking bar is
a
good thing -- but I've never set real rivets, only pop rivets, so I
can't
offer loads of experience.)
3. Has anyone on this list nearly finished and have a good estimate of
what
the finished product cost to build? I fear that the estimates on Van's
site
might be hopelessly optimistic, and seeing some actual numbers might
improve
my confidence in my building decision.
I tried heading up to Golden West to see all the planes, but the Cessna
I
rented failed a mag check (and refused to clear) after waiting 30
minutes
for an IFR release. (Urk.)
Thanks!
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
I am at SCK come on by,an early example but it flys well-2094770222.Cost to complete
about 110-Do it yourself paint and a home overhaul on the engine.The RV-10
is an awesome aircraft.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Colohan <rv10@colohan.com>
Sent: Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:01 pm
Subject: RV10-List: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area?
Hi there!
I'm trying to decide whether or not I want to jump into the pool and start building
an rv-10. ?(Step 2: ?figure out if I can actually afford it.) ?Before I make
that leap, I thought it might be a good idea to take a look at the finished
product, and to perhaps help out with some building tasks to make sure it is
really the kind of thing I'd like to spend several years doing. ?:-)
So, I'm asking:
1. ?Is there anyone with a finished (or nearly finished) rv-10 in the Bay Area
(or within a 100nm flight or so and near an airport) who might be interested in
showing off their work?
2. ?Is there anyone working on a plane who might find a second pair of somewhat-handy
hands useful? ?(I hear offering to hold a bucking bar is a good thing --
but I've never set real rivets, only pop rivets, so I can't offer loads of experience.)
3. ?Has anyone on this list nearly finished and have a good estimate of what the
finished product cost to build? ?I fear that the estimates on Van's site might
be hopelessly optimistic, and seeing some actual numbers might improve my confidence
in my building decision.
I tried heading up to Golden West to see all the planes, but the Cessna I rented
failed a mag check (and refused to clear) after waiting 30 minutes for an IFR
release. ?(Urk.)
Thanks!
Chris
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| Subject: | Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
I can not help with the near by 10. A very good rule of thumb for costs is
the 3X rule. Use the airframe cost and multiply by 3 for the finished built
product. Then use the airframe cost and multiply by 9 to determine the cost
of certified equivalent. As example 50K for the 10 kit, 50k for engine and
prop and Firewall forward kit, and 50K for avionics and finishing including
a modest paint job. A 10 goes faster , carries more and is better equipped
than most new C182s. Check a new 182 price with glass panel avionics and it
is at least 400K.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area?
Can not help you with the building part, but the Price part...
A Very conservative number for my airplane is ~160,000 before taxes. It can
be done cheaper, I could have spent less on the engine and a little less on
the panel. I purchased the interior and had it painted. I also have a
$6,000+ O2 System, but you need to get what you really need..want.during the
build, it will be hard to do it later. The O2 was real important for me
because my wife gets air sick whenever we fly over 10k w/o O2. It has
worked great.
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Colohan
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area?
Hi there!
I'm trying to decide whether or not I want to jump into the pool and start
building an rv-10. (Step 2: figure out if I can actually afford it.)
Before I make that leap, I thought it might be a good idea to take a look at
the finished product, and to perhaps help out with some building tasks to
make sure it is really the kind of thing I'd like to spend several years
doing. :-)
So, I'm asking:
1. Is there anyone with a finished (or nearly finished) rv-10 in the Bay
Area (or within a 100nm flight or so and near an airport) who might be
interested in showing off their work?
2. Is there anyone working on a plane who might find a second pair of
somewhat-handy hands useful? (I hear offering to hold a bucking bar is a
good thing -- but I've never set real rivets, only pop rivets, so I can't
offer loads of experience.)
3. Has anyone on this list nearly finished and have a good estimate of what
the finished product cost to build? I fear that the estimates on Van's site
might be hopelessly optimistic, and seeing some actual numbers might improve
my confidence in my building decision.
I tried heading up to Golden West to see all the planes, but the Cessna I
rented failed a mag check (and refused to clear) after waiting 30 minutes
for an IFR release. (Urk.)
Thanks!
Chris
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
I'm in Castro Valley, #40745. I also know Dave, in Livermore, #40746 (just coincidence
on the numbers!). We're both on the finish kit stage (which definitely
does not mean it's finished - maybe 60% of the way there. We're both working
in garages (he has a 3 car garage, I have a smallish 2 car garage). If you'd like
to come by, see what it looks like stuffed into a garage like this, talk about
the work, the cost to date, expected final cost, etc., I'd be happy to host
you, and I'm sure Dave would, too. email me at if you'd like to visit.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
Chris,
We're in Watsonville, near Monterey, at KWVI. I have a 10 that I finished
in '07 now with 475 hours.
I'd be happy to take you for a quick flight and show you around our shop.
Just give me a call and we can set up a time for you come over and see a
bunch of experimentals, including my 10. We do SportAir weekend workshops
with EAA and other workshops too.
Best Regards,
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
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| Subject: | LOP (Lean of Peak) Injector Tuning |
For those who are interested in running LOP and who want to
get better injector tuning to make their engine run smooth
when Lean of Peak, I wrote up my recent experience in tuning
the injectors. It was cheap, and very very easy.
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090822/index.html
There will be a future update to the write-up, as I'm working
on a project on another engine, but the info here should give
you what you need to get started tweaking your own system.
It's so simple that there's no reason not to get your engine
set up for great operation.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
540 hours and climbing
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| Subject: | LOP (Lean of Peak) Injector Tuning |
For those who are interested in running LOP and who want to
get better injector tuning to make their engine run smooth
when Lean of Peak, I wrote up my recent experience in tuning
the injectors. It was cheap, and very very easy.
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090822/index.html
There will be a future update to the write-up, as I'm working
on a project on another engine, but the info here should give
you what you need to get started tweaking your own system.
It's so simple that there's no reason not to get your engine
set up for great operation.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
540 hours and climbing
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| Subject: | IO-540 online manual - Lew |
Hey Tim,
If you're back from vacation, did someone ever send you the online IO-540
manual? If so, could you send it to me? I've been looking for it also and
apparently those who used to post a link to it have been shut down -- maybe
copywright problems?
Thanks, - Lew
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Attached is a picture of the GRT Sport that backs up my Chelton displays; it
has a LOP lean function where the boxes appear as each EGT peaks and then
declines. The GRT EIS is feeding both the Chelton and the GRT Sport with
serial data on engine performance. The two Chelton screens show comparable
data from about the same time. Fortunately I did not have to balance my
injectors as the spread of both EGTs and CHTs seemed adequate. My engine was
a new certified IO540 from Vans.
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| Subject: | Re: LOP (Lean of Peak) Injector Tuning |
Tim:
Great post as usual on your injector balancing experience. I had very
nearly the same experience and results with two minor variations; a complete
Airflow Performance system vs. your Silver Hawk and we started by installing
.026's in all cylinders and then balancing. I ran most of the tests at
10-11 MSL and verified at the results at 7.5. Don R. felt that at the lower
power settings of around 50-60% the flow divider begins to be the
determining factor and by going to the smaller .026s the flow divider is
taken out of the equation.
There was an interesting series of pictures and notes regarding burned
pistons (don't remember where I saw them) where the author thought the cause
was "rapid" mixture leaning used by LOP operators. He felt the rapid rise
in EGT was the cause. I disagree. GAMI recommends the "big pull" from rich
to LOP and then a finer adujustment to prevent spending more time in the
danger zone of peak to 100 rich of peak. Also with a rapid initial mixture
leaning I doubt the cylinder or piston temp will increase before it cools
from steady LOP operation. Further at <65% I do not think you can do
anything to the mixture that would harm or overstress the engine.
Regarding long range cruise I was happy to find that my engine seems equally
smooth at 2250 as at higher RPM. I see about a 1GPH reduction in fuel flow
with each 100 RPM reduction at full throttle settings and there is very
little airspeed loss as the prop is taking bigger bits (sorta like
overdrive). Charles Lindberg showed the P-38 pilots in the South Pacific how
to double their range by running "over square and lean". Finally, to
prevent the prop driving the engine during higher speed descents I keep the
RPM at least "2" oversquare below manifold pressure. This is common
practice with the big radials and it would seem equally applicable to our
engines.
Dick Sipp
N110DV 175 hours
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