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1. 04:55 AM - Re: Re: hat switch relays (David Maib)
2. 05:25 AM - Re: Re: hat switch relays (Jesse Saint)
3. 06:25 AM - Re: hat switch relays (marcausman)
4. 07:15 AM - Re: Re: hat switch relays (Lew Gallagher)
5. 08:10 AM - flap switch (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
6. 09:34 AM - Re: flap switch (Jesse Saint)
7. 10:46 AM - Re: flap switch (Nick Leonard)
8. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: flap switch (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
9. 12:39 PM - Re: Re: Will an IO-540-C4B5 narrow deck work for an RV-10 (Andrew Johnson)
10. 12:49 PM - Re: flap switch (Nick Leonard)
11. 01:52 PM - Re: Re: Will an IO-540-C4B5 narrow deck work for an RV-10 (Bob Leffler)
12. 08:00 PM - Re: Re: flap switch (Bill DeRouchey)
13. 08:23 PM - What to use for a cabin speaker and where to mount it? (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
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| Subject: | Re: hat switch relays |
I have pitch, roll, and yaw trim on my VP 200 and don't have any
relay's. Maybe because I have VP-200 duo. ?
David Maib
40559
On Oct 8, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> Note, though, that the VP only handles 2 trim servos, so if you have
> 3, then you will need a relay for the 3rd.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
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> On Oct 8, 2009, at 11:09 AM, marcausman wrote:
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>> <marc@verticalpower.com>
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>> Just a note to clarify this issue for anyone using the Vertical
>> Power system. You do not need relays or other boards for the
>> trim. It is all built-in and all solid-state. Also, the pilot and
>> co-pilot inputs are handled appropriately when there is conflicting
>> control inputs between the two.
>>
>> On a separate but related note, you also do NOT need to install
>> relays for the door latch annunciator switches. You just run the
>> two switches in series from each door into a switched input pin,
>> and you can change the logic (on when grounded or on when un-
>> grounded) in the setup menus.
>>
>> --------
>> Marc Ausman
>> http://www.verticalpower.com
>> RV-7 IO-390 Flying
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267102#267102
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| Subject: | Re: hat switch relays |
Correct. You have 2 trims per control unit.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
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On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:53 AM, David Maib <dmaib@me.com> wrote:
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> I have pitch, roll, and yaw trim on my VP 200 and don't have any
> relay's. Maybe because I have VP-200 duo. ?
>
> David Maib
> 40559
>
> On Oct 8, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Jesse Saint wrote:
>
>> <jesse@saintaviation.com>
>>
>> Note, though, that the VP only handles 2 trim servos, so if you
>> have 3, then you will need a relay for the 3rd.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>> Cell: 352-427-0285
>> Fax: 815-377-3694
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2009, at 11:09 AM, marcausman wrote:
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>>> >
>>>
>>> Just a note to clarify this issue for anyone using the Vertical
>>> Power system. You do not need relays or other boards for the
>>> trim. It is all built-in and all solid-state. Also, the pilot and
>>> co-pilot inputs are handled appropriately when there is
>>> conflicting control inputs between the two.
>>>
>>> On a separate but related note, you also do NOT need to install
>>> relays for the door latch annunciator switches. You just run the
>>> two switches in series from each door into a switched input pin,
>>> and you can change the logic (on when grounded or on when un-
>>> grounded) in the setup menus.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Marc Ausman
>>> http://www.verticalpower.com
>>> RV-7 IO-390 Flying
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267102#267102
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| Subject: | Re: hat switch relays |
Each Control Unit can handle two trim servos. So a system with two control units
("red boxes") can control and display three trim servos.
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Marc Ausman
http://www.verticalpower.com "Move up to a modern electrical system"
RV-7 IO-390 Flying
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| Subject: | Re: hat switch relays |
Wow, Marc.
Thanks for your link. I can see now why others scoff at relays. At this
point we can only dream and drool of such an awesome gizmo!
Later, - Lew
----- Original Message -----
From: "marcausman" <marc@verticalpower.com>
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:25 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: hat switch relays
>
> Each Control Unit can handle two trim servos. So a system with two control
> units ("red boxes") can control and display three trim servos.
>
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> Marc Ausman
> http://www.verticalpower.com "Move up to a modern electrical
> system"
> RV-7 IO-390 Flying
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initially, my flap switch would engage in three increments, but now I
have to mark my flap so i can manually lower it to its proper position
for landing . what happened to the mechanism, and what is the fix? as
always i appreciate all the wisdom. robert brunkenhoefer KCRP
flying in conditional.
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If you have the flap positioning system, then it is possible that
either one of the switches is bad or the rod is somehow messed up. It
is more likely that the controller is bad. If the controller is
working and one of the switches or rod is bad, then I would think that
when you hit the flaps-down switch, it would go all the way down and
the motor would keep on running because there would be no "limit
switch" for the different position settings. I have seen one system
where the flaps went just beyond the last switch, so when the flaps
stopped in the "down" position, if you hit the switch again they would
go just beyond that position and the motor would keep running.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Oct 9, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Robert Brunkenhoefer wrote:
> >
>
> initially, my flap switch would engage in three increments, but now
> I have to mark my flap so i can manually lower it to its proper
> position for landing . what happened to the mechanism, and what is
> the fix? as always i appreciate all the wisdom. robert
> brunkenhoefer KCRP flying in conditional.
>
>
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I am so glad that you brought this subject up. I have been looking at developing
a flap positioning system initially for my own use but with an eye on making
it available to others.
The system would use one of two flap switches - either a rotary switch (ala Cirrus
and others) that has a flap like handle that you click to the desired position.
The other switch format is like the Cessna vertical flap selector. Different
panel switches but the functionality would be the same. In both cases,
lights would indicate current position, selected position and transition state.
The system would be 12v or 24v and have multiple outputs for displaying the
flap position on various electronic panels (Dynon, AFS, GRT, etc). Unlike the
other flap positioning systems, you would lose the ability to stop the flaps
between positions.
So my question is; is this a one-off project for myself or would others be interested
in such a system? I would expect the pricing to be in the same range as
the other flap positioning systems. What additional features might you want
to see?
Thanks for your feedback. -Nick
--------
Nick Leonard
RV-10 (40015) Finish
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267256#267256
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This is just me thinking out loud here but given the fact there are at least
3 other systems today, I don't know if it would be worthwhile for even yourself.
I'm betting the $time$ involved for the one off would probably cost more than
one of the COTS models.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nick Leonard
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:46 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: flap switch
I am so glad that you brought this subject up. I have been looking at developing
a flap positioning system initially for my own use but with an eye on making
it available to others.
The system would use one of two flap switches - either a rotary switch (ala Cirrus
and others) that has a flap like handle that you click to the desired position.
The other switch format is like the Cessna vertical flap selector. Different
panel switches but the functionality would be the same. In both cases,
lights would indicate current position, selected position and transition state.
The system would be 12v or 24v and have multiple outputs for displaying the
flap position on various electronic panels (Dynon, AFS, GRT, etc). Unlike the
other flap positioning systems, you would lose the ability to stop the flaps
between positions.
So my question is; is this a one-off project for myself or would others be interested
in such a system? I would expect the pricing to be in the same range as
the other flap positioning systems. What additional features might you want
to see?
Thanks for your feedback. -Nick
--------
Nick Leonard
RV-10 (40015) Finish
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267256#267256
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| Subject: | Re: Will an IO-540-C4B5 narrow deck work for an RV-10 |
Thanks to all for the great, and relieving, information.
How do I get a hold of a Rocket guy? Google?
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Space Cadet" <Dwight@Drefs.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Will an IO-540-C4B5 narrow deck work for an RV-10
>
> FWIW, I believe Lycoming stopped making the narrow-deck simply because
> they wanted a single production line, and the wide-deck had some other
> advantage relative to the product line they offer, I forget what. I've
> got a C4B5 too, although not flying yet.
>
> Thanks for the lead on swapping ears with the Rocket guys, would never
> have known that and was going to order new parts soon.
>
> Dwight
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267128#267128
>
>
>
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Michael,
You may well be right but what I'm building can't be adapted from one of the existing
systems. In fact, I have one of them now that I bought some time ago.
Personally, I would prefer the rotary switch approach and I have access to someone
who can design the electronics so it should be an enjoyable project.
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Nick Leonard
RV-10 (40015) Finish
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267271#267271
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| Subject: | Re: Will an IO-540-C4B5 narrow deck work for an RV-10 |
Rick Gray
http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/id22.html
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Johnson
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Will an IO-540-C4B5 narrow deck work for an
RV-10
Thanks to all for the great, and relieving, information.
How do I get a hold of a Rocket guy? Google?
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Space Cadet" <Dwight@Drefs.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Will an IO-540-C4B5 narrow deck work for an RV-10
>
> FWIW, I believe Lycoming stopped making the narrow-deck simply because
> they wanted a single production line, and the wide-deck had some other
> advantage relative to the product line they offer, I forget what. I've
> got a C4B5 too, although not flying yet.
>
> Thanks for the lead on swapping ears with the Rocket guys, would never
> have known that and was going to order new parts soon.
>
> Dwight
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267128#267128
>
>
>
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Robert-
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Suggest you stop and debug the situation. The motor could be running up aga
inst a stop when you think it is off. This could harm something and/or crea
te a serious situation.
-
During my installation I noticed that the flap motor will rotate the worm d
rive-shell (say) clockwise when dropping the flaps and CCW when retractin
g the flaps. This causes the flap sensing rod to rotate and the microswitch
rollers miss the detents. My suggestion is open the tunnel and watch the a
ction as the flaps are lowered and raised. Maybe this will help in the prob
lem resolution process.
-
Bill DeRouchey
N939SB, 320 hrs
--- On Fri, 10/9/09, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <rvbuilder@sausen.net> wro
te:
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: flap switch
ausen.net>
- This is just me thinking out loud here but given the fact there are at
least 3 other systems today, I don't know if it would be worthwhile for eve
n yourself.- I'm betting the $time$ involved for the one off would probab
ly cost more than one of the COTS models.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Nick Leonard
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:46 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: flap switch
I am so glad that you brought this subject up.- I have been looking at de
veloping a flap positioning system initially for my own use but with an eye
on making it available to others.
The system would use one of two flap switches - either a rotary switch (ala
Cirrus and others) that has a flap like handle that you click to the desir
ed position.- The other switch format is like the Cessna vertical flap se
lector.- Different panel switches but the functionality would be the same
.- In both cases, lights would indicate current position, selected positi
on and transition state.- The system would be 12v or 24v and have multipl
e outputs for displaying the flap position on various electronic panels (Dy
non, AFS, GRT, etc). Unlike the other flap positioning systems, you would l
ose the ability to stop the flaps between positions.
So my question is; is this a one-off project for myself or would others be
interested in such a system?- I would expect the pricing to be in the sam
e range as the other flap positioning systems.- What additional features
might you want to see?
Thanks for your feedback. -Nick
--------
Nick Leonard
RV-10 (40015) Finish
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267256#267256
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | What to use for a cabin speaker and where to mount it? |
Not much in the archives... what have people installed?
Bill "fooling around with a PMA9000EX install" Watson
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