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Sat 10/10/09


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:58 AM - Re: What to use for a cabin speaker and where to mount it? (AirMike)
     2. 03:45 AM - Re: Re: What to use for a cabin speaker and where to mount it? (David McNeill)
     3. 06:17 AM - flap switch (Chris Hukill)
     4. 06:18 AM - Re: Re: What to use for a cabin speaker and where to mount it? (Jim)
     5. 07:17 AM - Re: flap switch (Tim Olson)
     6. 08:14 AM - Re: What to use for a cabin speaker and where to mount it? (Dave Saylor)
     7. 09:02 AM - Re: ***SPAM*** flap switch (Bob-tcw)
     8. 12:18 PM - Re: flap switch (James McGrew)
     9. 01:55 PM - flap switch (David McNeill)
    10. 02:12 PM - Custom Fan Grills For Sale (effectus@rogers.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:58:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: What to use for a cabin speaker and where to mount it?
    From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
    I got an inexpensive one at Fry's Electronics in Calif. - There, you can also get a nice durable and inexpensive grill to cover the speaker. There is a specific OHM requirement which is probably in the manual for the audio panel. I cut a hole in the side panel at hip level in the right side of the back seat. Seems to work fine, but with all the excellent headsets out there - not sure it is really needed. -------- OSH '10 or Bust Q/B Kit - phase 1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267323#267323 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pb210504_182.jpg


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    Time: 03:45:08 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: What to use for a cabin speaker and where to mount
    it? Not required. Just another thing to break. Put jacks at all four seats and an aux jack on the panel. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 2:57 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: What to use for a cabin speaker and where to mount it? I got an inexpensive one at Fry's Electronics in Calif. - There, you can also get a nice durable and inexpensive grill to cover the speaker. There is a specific OHM requirement which is probably in the manual for the audio panel. I cut a hole in the side panel at hip level in the right side of the back seat. Seems to work fine, but with all the excellent headsets out there - not sure it is really needed. -------- OSH '10 or Bust Q/B Kit - phase 1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267323#267323 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pb210504_182.jpg


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    Time: 06:17:39 AM PST US
    From: "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net>
    Subject: flap switch
    I would be interested in another system for controlling the flaps than Vans provides in they're version of the flap positioning system. In my RV8, I have a simple momentary up, off, down switch. Works great, lasts a long time. I look out over the left shoulder, and can see the marks on the flaps, and just release the switch at the desired setting. I have been flying a RV10 with the Vans positioning system installed, and it seems to be more work (i.e. distraction), to get the flaps where you want them, than to just hold and release the switch, like in my 8. Now with the realization that the positioning system adds several failure points to the equation, I think I am going to pass on it. I don't need a burned out actuator while far from home. At least a "flap motor running" annunciator would be a requirement for any system that can fail in that mode. I have flown the Cirrus, and would be very much interested in a similar system to that. I think I'll walk down to the local Cirrus service center, and check the price on one of those switches, and logic boards, and talk to the mechanics on the reliability and safeguards of that system. I will post my findings. I am about to figure out how to mount the RAC 1.2 inch position sensor to the flaps. Anybody got pictures of how they did it? Chris Hukill temporarily out of fiberglass hell


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    Time: 06:18:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: What to use for a cabin speaker and where to mount
    it?
    From: "Jim" <jim@CombsFive.Com>
    I went to Walmart and bought a 3.5" speaker (Automotive / aviation) and then radio shack for a plastic enclosure. Drilled a series of holes in the enclosure and mounted it on aluminum angle under the panel facing down at the floor. It's nice to be able to get ATIS before engine start and not have to put on the head sets. Jim Combs (N312F - 120+ hours - Young Eagles this weekend) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> I got an inexpensive one at Fry's Electronics in Calif. - There, you can also get a nice durable and inexpensive grill to cover the speaker. There is a specific OHM requirement which is probably in the manual for the audio panel. I cut a hole in the side panel at hip level in the right side of the back seat. Seems to work fine, but with all the excellent headsets out there - not sure it is really needed. -------- OSH '10 or Bust Q/B Kit - phase 1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267323#267323 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pb210504_182.jpg List Features Navigator to browse List Un/Subscription, Browse, Chat, FAQ, - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - available via the Web Forums! http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - generous support! Admin.


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    Time: 07:17:01 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: flap switch
    Not sure what you mean that it's more work than your 8. With the standard positioner, it's just press and release just like you say. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Chris Hukill wrote: > I would be interested in another system for controlling the flaps than > Vans provides in they're version of the flap positioning system. In my > RV8, I have a simple momentary up, off, down switch. Works great, lasts > a long time. I look out over the left shoulder, and can see the marks on > the flaps, and just release the switch at the desired setting. I have > been flying a RV10 with the Vans positioning system installed, and it > seems to be more work (i.e. distraction), to get the flaps where you > want them, than to just hold and release the switch, like in my 8. Now > with the realization that the positioning system adds several failure > points to the equation, I think I am going to pass on it. I don't need a > burned out actuator while far from home. At least a "flap motor running" > annunciator would be a requirement for any system that can fail in that > mode. I have flown the Cirrus, and would be very much interested in a > similar system to that. I think I'll walk down to the local Cirrus > service center, and check the price on one of those switches, and logic > boards, and talk to the mechanics on the reliability and safeguards of > that system. I will post my findings. > I am about to figure out how to mount the RAC 1.2 inch position sensor > to the flaps. Anybody got pictures of how they did it? > Chris Hukill > temporarily out of fiberglass hell >


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    Time: 08:14:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: What to use for a cabin speaker and where to mount it?
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    I mounted a 11-01569 from ACS in the upper section of the rear bulkhead. Works great. We put a doubler to beef up the cut in the corrugation, then the interior cloth went right over the speaker so it's invisible. It's about 2 feet fwd of the AFS magnetometer, but it doesn't seem to affect it. Dave Saylor AirCrafters LLC 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Bill Mauledriver Watson < MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> wrote: > MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> > > Not much in the archives... what have people installed? > > Bill "fooling around with a PMA9000EX install" Watson > >


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    Time: 09:02:13 AM PST US
    From: "Bob-tcw" <rnewman@tcwtech.com>
    Subject: Re: flap switch
    Chris, You may want to take a look at our Flap Controller. It works with the standard momentary down, maintained up type flap switches. The TCW flap controller allows for pilot and co-pilot flap switches, it includes a 15 second run timer to shut off the flap motor if you leave the flap switch(es) in the up position. The flap controller takes care of the conflict if one of the flap switches is left in the up positon. It also connects to an airspeed switch providing vfe protection. All the details are at www.tcwtech.com Bob Newman ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Hukill To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: ***SPAM*** RV10-List: flap switch I would be interested in another system for controlling the flaps than Vans provides in they're version of the flap positioning system. In my RV8, I have a simple momentary up, off, down switch. Works great, lasts a long time. I look out over the left shoulder, and can see the marks on the flaps, and just release the switch at the desired setting. I have been flying a RV10 with the Vans positioning system installed, and it seems to be more work (i.e. distraction), to get the flaps where you want them, than to just hold and release the switch, like in my 8. Now with the realization that the positioning system adds several failure points to the equation, I think I am going to pass on it. I don't need a burned out actuator while far from home. At least a "flap motor running" annunciator would be a requirement for any system that can fail in that mode. I have flown the Cirrus, and would be very much interested in a similar system to that. I think I'll walk down to the local Cirrus service center, and check the price on one of those switches, and logic boards, and talk to the mechanics on the reliability and safeguards of that system. I will post my findings. I am about to figure out how to mount the RAC 1.2 inch position sensor to the flaps. Anybody got pictures of how they did it? Chris Hukill temporarily out of fiberglass hell


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    Time: 12:18:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: flap switch
    From: James McGrew <jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu>
    > There's pictures of my RAC POS-12 sensor install in this previous post > here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=38195&highlight=pos12 > > Also, I've been having trouble with my Van's flap positioning system > lately. I've done some trouble shooting but haven't yet pin pointed the > issue. It tends to stop at random places on the way down. > > -Jim > 40134 > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Chris Hukill <cjhukill@cox.net> wrote: > >> I would be interested in another system for controlling the flaps than >> Vans provides in they're version of the flap positioning system. In my RV8, >> I have a simple momentary up, off, down switch. Works great, lasts a long >> time. I look out over the left shoulder, and can see the marks on the flaps, >> and just release the switch at the desired setting. I have been flying a >> RV10 with the Vans positioning system installed, and it seems to be more >> work (i.e. distraction), to get the flaps where you want them, than to just >> hold and release the switch, like in my 8. Now with the realization that the >> positioning system adds several failure points to the equation, I think I am >> going to pass on it. I don't need a burned out actuator while far from home. >> At least a "flap motor running" annunciator would be a requirement for any >> system that can fail in that mode. I have flown the Cirrus, and would be >> very much interested in a similar system to that. I think I'll walk down to >> the local Cirrus service center, and check the price on one of those >> switches, and logic boards, and talk to the mechanics on the reliability and >> safeguards of that system. I will post my findings. >> I am about to figure out how to mount the RAC 1.2 inch position sensor to >> the flaps. Anybody got pictures of how they did it? >> Chris Hukill >> temporarily out of fiberglass hell >> >> * >> >> * >> >> >


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    Time: 01:55:04 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: flap switch
    I used a momentary switch from McMaster Carr. The switch is spring loaded to move down flaps. Returns to center position to shut off the flap motor. When the switch is flipped up the flaps move up until switch returned to center. I have a red LED wired in the circuit to remind me if I left the switch in the up position and the motor is running. Of course I also have a starter running light as well. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob-tcw Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: Re: ***SPAM*** RV10-List: flap switch Chris, You may want to take a look at our Flap Controller. It works with the standard momentary down, maintained up type flap switches. The TCW flap controller allows for pilot and co-pilot flap switches, it includes a 15 second run timer to shut off the flap motor if you leave the flap switch(es) in the up position. The flap controller takes care of the conflict if one of the flap switches is left in the up positon. It also connects to an airspeed switch providing vfe protection. All the details are at www.tcwtech.com Bob Newman ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Hukill <mailto:cjhukill@cox.net> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: ***SPAM*** RV10-List: flap switch I would be interested in another system for controlling the flaps than Vans provides in they're version of the flap positioning system. In my RV8, I have a simple momentary up, off, down switch. Works great, lasts a long time. I look out over the left shoulder, and can see the marks on the flaps, and just release the switch at the desired setting. I have been flying a RV10 with the Vans positioning system installed, and it seems to be more work (i.e. distraction), to get the flaps where you want them, than to just hold and release the switch, like in my 8. Now with the realization that the positioning system adds several failure points to the equation, I think I am going to pass on it. I don't need a burned out actuator while far from home. At least a "flap motor running" annunciator would be a requirement for any system that can fail in that mode. I have flown the Cirrus, and would be very much interested in a similar system to that. I think I'll walk down to the local Cirrus service center, and check the price on one of those switches, and logic boards, and talk to the mechanics on the reliability and safeguards of that system. I will post my findings. I am about to figure out how to mount the RAC 1.2 inch position sensor to the flaps. Anybody got pictures of how they did it? Chris Hukill temporarily out of fiberglass hell href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 02:12:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Custom Fan Grills For Sale
    From: effectus@rogers.com
    Hi Everyone,I have a pair of custom RV-10 fan grills that I would like to offer for sale. They are laser cut from 1/16" 304 stainless steel. As you can see from the picture they dress up your dash and functionally diffuse air from a standard 92mm computer case fan. The opening from the case fan is approx. 3.5" in diameter. You can see a photo of the fan grill installed on my RV-10 on my blog at the following address. http://kitaircraftmods.com/category/all-aircraft-accessory/ It is the third post down from the top. If interested please contact me off list. I will post if they have been sold. Thanks, Dave Hertner President Effectus AeroProducts Inc.




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