RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 10/16/09


Total Messages Posted: 36



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:39 AM - Re: Garmin G3X (Robin Marks)
     2. 03:14 AM - Re: Re: QB Fuselage Question (Michael Kraus)
     3. 03:54 AM - Re: Engine mount boos nuts and washers (Jesse Saint)
     4. 05:11 AM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (William Curtis)
     5. 05:19 AM - Re: Garmin G3X (David McNeill)
     6. 07:15 AM - Re: Garmin G3X (Rene Felker)
     7. 07:43 AM - High EGT on #2 Cylinder (tgesele@optonline.net)
     8. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: BPE IO-540, VS LS-2 (Thane States)
     9. 08:12 AM - Re: High EGT on #2 Cylinder (Tim Olson)
    10. 08:12 AM - Re: Garmin G3X (Kelly McMullen)
    11. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: BPE IO-540, VS LS-2 (Kelly McMullen)
    12. 08:15 AM - Re: High EGT on #2 Cylinder (Rick Sked)
    13. 08:15 AM - Re: High EGT on #2 Cylinder (Rick Sked)
    14. 08:40 AM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (orchidman)
    15. 08:41 AM - Re: High EGT on #2 Cylinder (AirMike)
    16. 08:42 AM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (Jim)
    17. 08:55 AM - Lycoming Torque Values.pdf (Jesse Saint)
    18. 08:56 AM - Re: Garmin G3X (William Curtis)
    19. 09:20 AM - Re: High EGT on #2 Cylinder (Carl Froehlich)
    20. 09:25 AM - More QB questions (Kelly McMullen)
    21. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (William Curtis)
    22. 09:47 AM - Re: More QB questions (Jesse Saint)
    23. 09:47 AM - Re: More QB questions (Perry, Phil)
    24. 11:39 AM - Re: Garmin G3X (William Curtis)
    25. 03:10 PM - Re: High EGT on #2 Cylinder (John Cox)
    26. 04:12 PM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (orchidman)
    27. 04:42 PM - Re: Lycoming Torque Values.pdf (John Gonzalez)
    28. 04:52 PM - Re: Engine mount boos nuts and washers (John Gonzalez)
    29. 05:21 PM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (Jim)
    30. 06:11 PM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
    31. 06:11 PM - Re: Garmin G3X (Seano)
    32. 06:23 PM - Re: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (William Curtis)
    33. 07:21 PM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (Jim)
    34. 07:40 PM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (Kelly McMullen)
    35. 09:13 PM - G900X System Update (Robin Marks)
    36. 11:51 PM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (Jeff Carpenter)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:39:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Garmin G3X
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    Well the one thing you can say about Garmin support is that when they don't know something they tell you....Often. Again there are very few people qualified at Garmin to explain serious lacking & confusing documentation. One has to call before Kansas closes to get support for these systems. I assume the field service reps outside corporate are there to expedite hardware exchanges or the like. It's not just me I am working with a technically skilled aircraft mechanic who keeps asking me "why do they do it that way?". As to the G3X I am fairly sure the GTS 800 will work. Ca-Ching. But nice to have the option for sure. I plan to install it on our G900. I also assume that the VFR WAAS GPS is for liability reasons (targeting the LSA market etc...) as well as leaving the proud owner the ability to Option Up to IFR certified by adding a 430W. Geeee, remind who makes 430W's again? Ok, I can live with that, I have to have a nice nav/comm anyway. If Garmin would only came out with some plug & play package; pre-assembled harnesses between their devices or to a common hub so even the electrically challenged could build up a system this would be a sweet package. That is until you try to update the system software. Teehee. Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:56 PM Subject: RV10-List: Garmin G3X I have been looking at the G3X now since I have gone through every other avionics option. I called Garmin about some questions I had about the system. They really didn't have anything to tell me or know anything to tell me. I was transferred four times until I had a field technician who "knew" the G3X system. I asked him if the GTS 800 TCAS would work with the G3x. He didn't know. I would think that it would work with it since most of Garmin's stuff seems to interface well with each other. I also asked him if the VFR WAAS internal GPS will ever be certified IFR and he said,"no it won't be." I thought that was weird but I guess you just have to drive it with a 430 or 530 to be IFR certified. Also I asked him which fuel transducer it uses since I already bought the red cube but again he didn't know. I suppose it would be the same as the G900X that Robin already CLEARLY stated. Maybe someone on the Matronics knows more. Anyone? -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268183#268183 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 10/15/09 20:39:00


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    Time: 03:14:09 AM PST US
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    Subject: Re: QB Fuselage Question
    We removed the mounts on my buddies -10. Cleaned, primed, and insulated under the floors. Yes the holes were hard to get back lined up, but you can do it. It isn't nearly as hard as the fiberglass you will soon find..... Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2009, at 11:14 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > > What good kit hasn't been assembled and disassembled at least 4 > times? Somehow, half dozen screws and temporary pop rivets aren't a > big deal to be able to install some good insulation down there, to > help keep cabin noise tolerable. > > johngoodman wrote: >> > >> You paid a lot for the QB. If you are really terrified of what you >> might find under the front floors, buy a fiber optic scope and >> look. There are lightening holes behind every space located at the >> aft end under the seats. >> Vacuum hoses and magnets also work well. >> John >> -------- >> #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit progressing. Engine >> &amp; Panel delivery soon. >> N711JG reserved >> Read this topic online here: >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268168#268168 > >


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    Time: 03:54:03 AM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine mount boos nuts and washers
    You are correct on the number & size. The engine should have a bag of hardware for that. The nut usually has one flat (like a washer) side and the other side is a little rounded at the corner of the flats. The flat side goes against the lock washer. The order is flat washer, internal tooth lock washer, nut with flat side in. I have the torque values at the shop. Give me a call later this morning & I'll look them up for you. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation jesse@saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2009, at 11:18 PM, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> wrote: > I am ready to lift the engine out of the box with my new engine hoist. > > I don't seem to find anywhere in the documentation with the engine > or the FWF that discusses attaching the mount bosses to the engine > case. I presume the correct sized 16 nuts, 16 flat washers and 16 > internal tooth lock washers located with the air carburator unit are > for this purpose. > > What I would also like to know is these nuts have a raised circular > portion on one side. I presume that this raised side goes against > the serrated washer so that it engages serrations of the lock > washer. But then again, this leaves less surface area of the nut on > the lock washer perimeter which then would ordinarily push down on > the other washer? What is the correct direction? > > Seems like a pretty important item to not have any mention of in the > documantation?? > > Thanks, > > John G > >


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    Time: 05:11:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
    From: William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    Even though AFS has a provision electronic ignition tach, the harness that come with the AFS does NOT include a pin or wire for for it. You have to add this additional wire if you want RPM indication from the electronic ignition on the AFS. Did you add this additional wire from the LS input connector pin 6 to the AFS EM harness pin 33? See page 4: http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/90Electrical/RV10WireBookAll.pdf William http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>wrote: > Jim, I tried everything to get my Lightspeed to talk to my AFS.... with > no success. Robs people were great, but still nothing. I have a backup > Vans tach that I had to hook up using the cable and such out of the back of > the motor. What did you do to get it to work. Gotta be specific here... > Not at the hanger, so I can't cite pin numbers... hopefully you can... > Sure would be nice to get it to work, > > --- On *Thu, 10/15/09, Jim <jim@combsfive.com>* wrote: > > > From: Jim <jim@combsfive.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 5:19 PM > > Have the same configuration Lightspeed on the left and magneto on the > right. I wired the AFS tach to the lightspeed ignition. > > Jim C > >


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    Time: 05:19:17 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Garmin G3X
    Sounds like Garmin is becoming the King Radio of the 1970s. No customer service and arrogant attitude; how long will the technical superiority last? How long will they be able to buy their technically superior competitors? -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:56 PM Subject: RV10-List: Garmin G3X I have been looking at the G3X now since I have gone through every other avionics option. I called Garmin about some questions I had about the system. They really didn't have anything to tell me or know anything to tell me. I was transferred four times until I had a field technician who "knew" the G3X system. I asked him if the GTS 800 TCAS would work with the G3x. He didn't know. I would think that it would work with it since most of Garmin's stuff seems to interface well with each other. I also asked him if the VFR WAAS internal GPS will ever be certified IFR and he said,"no it won't be." I thought that was weird but I guess you just have to drive it with a 430 or 530 to be IFR certified. Also I asked him which fuel transducer it uses since I already bought the red cube but again he didn't know. I suppose it would be the same as the G900X that Robin already CLEARLY stated. Maybe someone on the Matronics knows more. Anyone? -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268183#268183


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    Time: 07:15:42 AM PST US
    From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: Garmin G3X
    Have you tried talking to Stein....or maybe the guys at Stark? Rene' Felker RV-10 N423CF Flying 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:56 PM Subject: RV10-List: Garmin G3X I have been looking at the G3X now since I have gone through every other avionics option. I called Garmin about some questions I had about the system. They really didn't have anything to tell me or know anything to tell me. I was transferred four times until I had a field technician who "knew" the G3X system. I asked him if the GTS 800 TCAS would work with the G3x. He didn't know. I would think that it would work with it since most of Garmin's stuff seems to interface well with each other. I also asked him if the VFR WAAS internal GPS will ever be certified IFR and he said,"no it won't be." I thought that was weird but I guess you just have to drive it with a 430 or 530 to be IFR certified. Also I asked him which fuel transducer it uses since I already bought the red cube but again he didn't know. I suppose it would be the same as the G900X that Robin already CLEARLY stated. Maybe someone on the Matronics knows more. Anyone? -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268183#268183


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    Time: 07:43:50 AM PST US
    From: tgesele@optonline.net
    Subject: High EGT on #2 Cylinder
    During flight testing, the EGT on the #2 cylinder is running consistently higher (~75-90 deg) than the others. I've flown the plane with / without the wheel pants and noticed temperature jumped with them on at the same power setting. Based on this, I'm assuming that it has something to do with the vent in the injector port (I'm running the AFP unit) leaning the mixture in that cylinder more than the others. Has anyone else run into this? Any suggestions on how to even them out? Thanks, Tom Gesele N629RV - Phase I


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    Time: 07:43:51 AM PST US
    From: "Thane States" <thane2@comporium.net>
    Subject: Re: BPE IO-540, VS LS-2
    Ah, primer wars, I love it. S.W wash, that ugly green stuff!! Thane ----- Original Message ----- From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:39 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: BPE IO-540, VS LS-2 > > >> Just thought I would post some comparisons of a flight from Oshkosh this >> year. >> I am not trying to stir up the pot, but rather offer some very basic info >> I got when I flew with another RV-10 this year. >> As you all know there is a huge debate about the merits of auto >> conversions, vs. standard power plants. >> FACTS: > > > Since you ARE stirring up the pot, which primer did you use? > > John > > -------- > #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit progressing. Engine &amp; > Panel delivery soon. > N711JG reserved > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268164#268164 > > >


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    Time: 08:12:33 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: High EGT on #2 Cylinder
    That's what all that talk was a few weeks ago about putting a blocking plate in front of the injector, to block the air. This is especially a concern with the James Cowl. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD tgesele@optonline.net wrote: > During flight testing, the EGT on the #2 cylinder is running > consistently higher (~75-90 deg) than the others. I've flown the plane > with / without the wheel pants and noticed temperature jumped with them > on at the same power setting. Based on this, I'm assuming that it has > something to do with the vent in the injector port (I'm running the AFP > unit) leaning the mixture in that cylinder more than the others. Has > anyone else run into this? Any suggestions on how to even them out? > Thanks, > Tom Gesele N629RV - Phase I


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    Time: 08:12:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Garmin G3X
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Somehow I don't want to sign up for more of the Garmin/Jepp gravy train than I have to. It will be bad enough to have to feed a 430 update machine without also buying their EFIS updates as well. The AFS, Dynon and GRT systems seem to offer more, but it is like picking ice cream flavors. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Strasnuts <sean@braunandco.com> wrote: > > I have been looking at the G3X now since I have gone through every other avionics option. I called Garmin about some questions I had about the system. They really didn't have anything to tell me or know anything to tell me. I was transferred four times until I had a field technician who "knew" the G3X system. I asked him if the GTS 800 TCAS would work with the G3x. He didn't know. I would think that it would work with it since most of Garmin's stuff seems to interface well with each other. I also asked him if the VFR WAAS internal GPS will ever be certified IFR and he said,"no it won't be." I thought that was weird but I guess you just have to drive it with a 430 or 530 to be IFR certified. Also I asked him which fuel transducer it uses since I already bought the red cube but again he didn't know. I suppose it would be the same as the G900X that Robin already CLEARLY stated. Maybe someone on the Matronics knows more. Anyone? > > -------- > Cust. #40936 > RV-10 SB Fuselage > N801VR reserved > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268183#268183 > >


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    Time: 08:13:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: BPE IO-540, VS LS-2
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Primer? Who needs primer? Aridzona refugee ;-) do not archive On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Thane States <thane2@comporium.net> wrote: > > Ah, primer wars, I love it. S.W wash, that ugly green stuff!! > Thane > ----- Original Message ----- From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:39 PM > Subject: RV10-List: Re: BPE IO-540, VS LS-2 > > >> >> >>> Just thought I would post some comparisons of a flight from Oshkosh this >>> year. >>> I am not trying to stir up the pot, but rather offer some very basic info >>> I got when I flew with another RV-10 this year. >>> As you all know there is a huge debate about the merits of auto >>> conversions, vs. standard power plants. >>> FACTS: >> >> >> Since you ARE stirring up the pot, which primer did you use? >> >> John >> >> -------- >> #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit progressing. Engine &amp; >> Panel delivery soon. >> N711JG reserved >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268164#268164 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 08:15:03 AM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: High EGT on #2 Cylinder
    Are you running the front cylinder baffels at the stock size? I had to trim mine down a little at a time, made a big difference. ----- Original Message ----- From: tgesele@optonline.net Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:10:57 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RV10-List: High EGT on #2 Cylinder During flight testing, the EGT on the #2 cylinder is running consistently h igher (~75-90 deg)=C2-than the others. I've flown the plane with / withou t the wheel pants and noticed temperature jumped with them on at the same p ower setting. Based on this, I'm assuming that it has something to do with the vent in the injector port (I'm running the AFP unit) leaning the mixtur e in that cylinder more than the others. Has anyone else run into this?=C2 -Any suggestions on how to even them out?=C2- Thanks, =C2- Tom Gesele N629RV - Phase I


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    Time: 08:15:04 AM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: High EGT on #2 Cylinder
    Give Don a call at Airflow, He will want some flight data (temps)=C2-on a ll your cylinders along with answer your questions. They hold a class on ho w to tune them I think once a year I hear is VERY good. ----- Original Message ----- From: tgesele@optonline.net Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:10:57 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RV10-List: High EGT on #2 Cylinder During flight testing, the EGT on the #2 cylinder is running consistently h igher (~75-90 deg)=C2-than the others. I've flown the plane with / withou t the wheel pants and noticed temperature jumped with them on at the same p ower setting. Based on this, I'm assuming that it has something to do with the vent in the injector port (I'm running the AFP unit) leaning the mixtur e in that cylinder more than the others. Has anyone else run into this?=C2 -Any suggestions on how to even them out?=C2- Thanks, =C2- Tom Gesele N629RV - Phase I


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    Time: 08:40:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    wcurtis(at)nerv10.com wrote: > Even though AFS has a provision electronic ignition tach, the harness that come with the AFS does NOT include a pin or wire for for it.? You have to add this additional wire if you want RPM indication from the electronic ignition on the AFS.? Did you add this additional wire from the LS input connector pin 6 to the AFS EM harness pin 33? > ? > See page 4: > http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/90Electrical/RV10WireBookAll.pdf (http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/90Electrical/RV10WireBookAll.pdf) > ? > ? > William > http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ (http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/) > William, I don't have my wiring diagram in front of me right now, but quickly looking at your page 4, why are you trying to connect both your mag and LEI inputs? I must be missing something. I have a Mag on the Left and LEI on the right. My rpm readings come from my Left Mag and I always have a reading no mater what I have selected, L, R, Both. If the engine is turning, I have an rpm reading. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N2GB Flying) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268238#268238


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    Time: 08:41:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: High EGT on #2 Cylinder
    From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
    I had some wierd readings on my sensors when I started flying. If the engine is running smoothly, my first suspicion would be to check the sensor itself. Swap the sensor from #2 to #4 and then fly. If the high reading persisits - it is a defective sensor. Also as the prior post said - cut down the wind dam in front. -------- OSH '10 or Bust Q/B Kit - phase 1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268239#268239


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    Time: 08:42:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
    From: "Jim" <jim@CombsFive.Com>
    Michael, I will swing by the hanger today and give you more details. Jim C Do Not Archive --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim, I tried everything to get my Lightspeed to talk to my AFS.... with no success. Robs people were great, but still nothing.I have a backup Vans tach that I had to hook up using the cable and such out of the back of the motor. What did you do to get it to work. Gotta bespecific here... Not at the hanger, so I can'tcite pin numbers... hopefully you can... Sure would be nice to get it to work, --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Jim <jim@combsfive.com> wrote: From: Jim <jim@combsfive.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? October 15, 2009, 5:19 PM Have the same configuration Lightspeed on the left and magneto on the right. I wired the AFS tach to the lightspeed ignition. Jim C Do Not Archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> Hi there, I was wondering if you did connect the AFS RPM sensor on the magnet or the LS ignition, or is it even possible to wire both and choose via software where the signal comes from. Thanks Michael -------- RV-10 builder (avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268115#268115


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    Time: 08:55:32 AM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Lycoming Torque Values.pdf
    Attached is the Torque Table from the Lycoming Direct Drive Overhaul Manual. I don't know if Tim has this on his website already, but this is just a scan from my manual for those who want the information. Do not archive.


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    Time: 08:56:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Garmin G3X
    From: William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    Or study the G3X install manual<http://www.garmin.com/manuals/G3XElectronicFlightInstrumentationSystem_InstallManual.pdf> ? http://www.garmin.com/manuals/G3XElectronicFlightInstrumentationSystem_InstallManual.pdf The G3X seems to have all the required hardware ports to support the GTS 800. However, there is no way to tell if the required software is included in the current version. Page 1-2 of the install manual may answer some questions however. Garmin is relying heavily on the CAN bus<http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_CAN.html>with the G3X. This is a pretty cool interface. It is a non proprietary (less expensive) more flexible alternative to the ARINC 429 bus for future avionics products. It is currently used on Airbus, Mercedes-Benz, etc. William http://wcurtis.nerv10.com On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Rene Felker <rene@felker.com> wrote: > > Have you tried talking to Stein....or maybe the guys at Stark? > > Rene' Felker > RV-10 N423CF Flying > 801-721-6080 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:56 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Garmin G3X > > > I have been looking at the G3X now since I have gone through every other > avionics option. I called Garmin about some questions I had about the > system. They really didn't have anything to tell me or know anything to > tell me. I was transferred four times until I had a field technician who > "knew" the G3X system. I asked him if the GTS 800 TCAS would work with the > G3x. He didn't know. I would think that it would work with it since most > of Garmin's stuff seems to interface well with each other. I also asked > him > if the VFR WAAS internal GPS will ever be certified IFR and he said,"no it > won't be." I thought that was weird but I guess you just have to drive it > with a 430 or 530 to be IFR certified. Also I asked him which fuel > transducer it uses since I already bought the red cube but again he didn't > know. I suppose it would be the same as the G900X that Robin already > CLEARLY stated. Maybe someone on the Matronics knows more. Anyone? > > -------- > Cust. #40936 > RV-10 SB Fuselage > N801VR reserved > >


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    Time: 09:20:32 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: High EGT on #2 Cylinder
    Remember that EGT is only a relative indication of exhaust temperature. Since the actual reading is highly dependent on the probe and probe location, comparing EGTs between cylinders should only be done for specific operating aspects, such as comparing fuel flow between each cylinder as each cylinder reaches peak. The absolute EGT readings between cylinders is only useful for gross problems such as a cylinder not firing. More important is the CHT readings between cylinders and where each cylinder is operating related to peak EGT for that cylinder. Recommend you take data (fuel flow, CHTs) on when each cylinder peaks. If you get cylinder EGTs between 20-40 degrees ROP or LOP, then you should be in good shape. A LOP example is the last cylinder to peak being at 20 degrees below its highest temperature with the first cylinder to peak being 40 degrees below its highest temperature. On my 8A, #4 cylinder is always the last to peak - being about 0.1 - 0.2 gals/hr lower at peak than the first cylinder to peak but still in the 20-40 degree range. I replaced the injector (Air Flow Performance) on that cylinder with one that is .001" smaller, but it made that cylinder peak very early. I'll need to call AFP to see if they have another size perhaps only .0005" smaller. If you end up with CHTs being much different but fuel flow at EGT peaks are about the same, then it is time to look at air damns and such. Carl Froehlich RV-8A (525 hrs) RV-10 (still doing fuselage "make it pretty" fiberglass stuff) From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tgesele@optonline.net Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:11 AM Subject: RV10-List: High EGT on #2 Cylinder During flight testing, the EGT on the #2 cylinder is running consistently higher (~75-90 deg) than the others. I've flown the plane with / without the wheel pants and noticed temperature jumped with them on at the same power setting. Based on this, I'm assuming that it has something to do with the vent in the injector port (I'm running the AFP unit) leaning the mixture in that cylinder more than the others. Has anyone else run into this? Any suggestions on how to even them out? Thanks, Tom Gesele N629RV - Phase I


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    Time: 09:25:50 AM PST US
    Subject: More QB questions
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Neither F-1033-L or F-1033-R control column mounts were trimmed per Page 28-4 step one. Is there any reason for this step besides removing excess weight? Are the cutouts needed for clearance with something?


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    Time: 09:27:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
    From: William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    Ah, how about doing a mag check with other than your ear! --or being able to select from which device you want RPM indication. Why would you not? William http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ William, > > I don't have my wiring diagram in front of me right now, but quickly > looking at your page 4, why are you trying to connect both your mag and LEI > inputs? I must be missing something. > > I have a Mag on the Left and LEI on the right. My rpm readings come from > my Left Mag and I always have a reading no mater what I have selected, L, R, > Both. If the engine is turning, I have an rpm reading. > > -------- > Gary Blankenbiller > RV10 - # 40674 > (N2GB Flying) >


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    Time: 09:47:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: More QB questions
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    IIRC, with the control column base installed, that area would obstruct the movement, and you may not even be able to install it. I think that's an important one to remove. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Oct 16, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > Neither F-1033-L or F-1033-R control column mounts were trimmed per > Page 28-4 step one. Is there any reason for this step besides removing > excess weight? Are the cutouts needed for clearance with something? > >


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    Time: 09:47:22 AM PST US
    Subject: More QB questions
    From: "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
    I went ahead and removed mine to trim, but I don't really think it was required. Phil -----Original Message----- From: Kelly McMullen [mailto:apilot2@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:23 AM Subject: RV10-List: More QB questions Neither F-1033-L or F-1033-R control column mounts were trimmed per Page 28-4 step one. Is there any reason for this step besides removing excess weight? Are the cutouts needed for clearance with something?


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    Time: 11:39:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Garmin G3X
    From: William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    For those that are interested in the CAN Bus, here is a great article<http://www.aviationtoday.com/av/issue/feature/CAN-Bus-in-Aviation_31468.html>with comparison to ARINC 429. http://www.aviationtoday.com/av/issue/feature/CAN-Bus-in-Aviation_31468.html Because it is also used in automobiles, economies of scale should make CAN-buss interfaces ubiquitous on future avionics. Instead of all those discrete wires, you only have 4 wires into any device (power, ground and CAN). Plug this device into you passive CAN-bus "hub" and you are done with the wiring. Can't wait. William http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:48 AM, William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com> wrote: > Or study the G3X install manual<http://www.garmin.com/manuals/G3XElectronicFlightInstrumentationSystem_InstallManual.pdf> > ? > > http://www.garmin.com/manuals/G3XElectronicFlightInstrumentationSystem_InstallManual.pdf > > The G3X seems to have all the required hardware ports to support the GTS > 800. However, there is no way to tell if the required software is included > in the current version. Page 1-2 of the install manual may answer some > questions however. > > Garmin is relying heavily on the CAN bus<http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_CAN.html>with the G3X. This is a pretty cool interface. It is a non > proprietary (less expensive) more flexible alternative to the ARINC 429 bus > for future avionics products. It is currently used on Airbus, > Mercedes-Benz, etc. > > William > http://wcurtis.nerv10.com > >


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    Time: 03:10:07 PM PST US
    Subject: High EGT on #2 Cylinder
    From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
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    Time: 04:12:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    wcurtis(at)nerv10.com wrote: > Ah, how about doing a mag check with other than your ear! --or being able to select from which device you want RPM indication. Why would you not? > > William > William, I think you are missing a key point here. You mount the sender on the mag and it detects magneto revolutions. Maybe you have a different mag but on mine the sender mounts in the hole that the black vent plug goes in. It has nothing to do with the fact that the mag is engaged or not engaged. Unless the mag shaft breaks or the mag falls off the back of the engine, the main shaft of the mag will be rotating and the sender will detect the rpm of the shaft and therefore the engine. In this configuration, the left mag can be on or off and the right LSI can be on or off, as long as the mag shaft is turning, the AFS EM unit will indicate the engine speed. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N2GB Flying) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268283#268283


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    Time: 04:42:14 PM PST US
    From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Lycoming Torque Values.pdf
    Thanks Jesse=2C Looks like I need to get one of these mauals=2C but until t hen=2C thank you. JOhn G. > From: jesse@saintaviation.com > Subject: RV10-List: Lycoming Torque Values.pdf > Date: Fri=2C 16 Oct 2009 11:43:21 -0400 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Attached is the Torque Table from the Lycoming Direct Drive Overhaul > Manual. I don't know if Tim has this on his website already=2C but this > is just a scan from my manual for those who want the information. >


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    Time: 04:52:30 PM PST US
    From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Engine mount boos nuts and washers
    I was refering to the ears that need to be attached to the case on the engi ne. Each one has four bolts sticking out of the case. Jesse gave me the values and the information. Thanks. From: rv10builder@verizon.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine mount boos nuts and washers Are you talking about the engine mounted on the engine mount? if so FF1-5. From: John Gonzalez Sent: Thursday=2C October 15=2C 2009 8:18 PM Subject: RV10-List: Engine mount boos nuts and washers I am ready to lift the engine out of the box with my new engine hoist. I don't seem to find anywhere in the documentation with the engine or the FWF that discusses attaching the mount bosses to the engine case. I presume the correct sized 16 nuts=2C 16 flat washers and 16 internal tooth lock washers located with the air carburator unit are for this purpose. What I would also like to know is these nuts have a raised circular portion on one side. I presume that this raised side goes against the serrated wash er so that it engages serrations of the lock washer. But then again=2C this leave s less surface area of the nut on the lock washer perimeter which then would ordin arily push down on the other washer? What is the correct direction? Seems like a pretty important item to not have any mention of in the documantation?? Thanks=2C John G href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com title="http://www.matronics.com/contribution CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution" >http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 05:21:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
    From: "Jim" <jim@CombsFive.Com>
    My RPM uses the supplied speed sensor from AFS in the right mag vent. I wired the LightSpeed but use the input from the mag mounted sensor as the primary RPM input. The plan is to eventually replace the mag with a P-Mag / E-Mag once the 6 cylinder version become available. I would like to have an ignition system that does not rely on 12V to power it once running. Jim C -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim, I tried everything to get my Lightspeed to talk to my AFS.... with no success. Robs people were great, but still nothing.I have a backup Vans tach that I had to hook up using the cable and such out of the back of the motor. What did you do to get it to work. Gotta bespecific here... Not at the hanger, so I can'tcite pin numbers... hopefully you can... Sure would be nice to get it to work, --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Jim <jim@combsfive.com> wrote: From: Jim <jim@combsfive.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? To: rv10-list@matronics.com Have the same configuration Lightspeed on the left and magneto on the right. I wired the AFS tach to the lightspeed ignition. Jim C Do Not Archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> Hi there, I was wondering if you did connect the AFS RPM sensor on the magnet or the LS ignition, or is it even possible to wire both and choose via software where the signal comes from. Thanks Michael -------- RV-10 builder (avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268115#268115


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    Time: 06:11:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
    From: ricksked@embarqmail.com
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    Time: 06:11:06 PM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: Garmin G3X
    Stein called me today. What customer service, I have only bought the servos and transducer from them so far. I will definetely be using them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 8:02 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Garmin G3X > > Have you tried talking to Stein....or maybe the guys at Stark? > > Rene' Felker > RV-10 N423CF Flying > 801-721-6080 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:56 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Garmin G3X > > > I have been looking at the G3X now since I have gone through every other > avionics option. I called Garmin about some questions I had about the > system. They really didn't have anything to tell me or know anything to > tell me. I was transferred four times until I had a field technician who > "knew" the G3X system. I asked him if the GTS 800 TCAS would work with > the > G3x. He didn't know. I would think that it would work with it since most > of Garmin's stuff seems to interface well with each other. I also asked > him > if the VFR WAAS internal GPS will ever be certified IFR and he said,"no it > won't be." I thought that was weird but I guess you just have to drive it > with a 430 or 530 to be IFR certified. Also I asked him which fuel > transducer it uses since I already bought the red cube but again he didn't > know. I suppose it would be the same as the G900X that Robin already > CLEARLY stated. Maybe someone on the Matronics knows more. Anyone? > > -------- > Cust. #40936 > RV-10 SB Fuselage > N801VR reserved > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268183#268183 > > >


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    Time: 06:23:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
    From: William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    Gary, Yup, I'm confuse by the question and think I missed your point again. AFS provides for RPM input on PINs 16,31 & 32 with the included mag sensor--I wired that. AFS also provide for RPM indication with Electronic Ignition on pin 33 --so I wired that also. This gives me the option of which device, mag or Electronic Ignition to get the RPM indicaton from. William http://wcurtis.nerv10.com On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:11 PM, orchidman <gary@wingscc.com> wrote: > > > wcurtis(at)nerv10.com wrote: > > Ah, how about doing a mag check with other than your ear! --or being ab le > to select from which device you want RPM indication.=EF=BD Why would y ou not? > > =EF=BD > > William > > > > William, > I think you are missing a key point here. You mount the sender on the ma g > and it detects magneto revolutions. Maybe you have a different mag but o n > mine the sender mounts in the hole that the black vent plug goes in. It has > nothing to do with the fact that the mag is engaged or not engaged. Unle ss > the mag shaft breaks or the mag falls off the back of the engine, the mai n > shaft of the mag will be rotating and the sender will detect the rpm of t he > shaft and therefore the engine. > In this configuration, the left mag can be on or off and the right LSI ca n > be on or off, as long as the mag shaft is turning, the AFS EM unit will > indicate the engine speed. > > -------- > Gary Blankenbiller > RV10 - # 40674 > (N2GB Flying) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268283#268283 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 07:21:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
    From: "Jim" <jim@CombsFive.Com>
    Rick, The LightSpeed will work with voltages down to 5 volts (if I remember correctly). I have not gone to a dual battery system but opted for a single larger amp hour battery. My plan is to always keep a engine operated ignition installed just in case. I can always go with a small 2nd battery as a backup. Jim C Do Not Archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just to play devil's advocate and to get an idea of what everyone is thinking.... I'm running two slick mags...I might opt for one light speed/P-mag once proven but I can't help but love the reliability (safety??) of my dual mag system. A totally electrically dependent ignition system concerns me in a single engine piston aircraft....so don't bring multi engine turbines or jets into this...were talking good ol'e lycomings and even auto conversions in this... Thoughts? Rick S. N246RS......just two mags chuggin along......at 200 mph. Big smile Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Jim" <jim@CombsFive.Com> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? My RPM uses the supplied speed sensor from AFS in the right mag vent. I wired the LightSpeed but use the input from the mag mounted sensor as the primary RPM input. The plan is to eventually replace the mag with a P-Mag / E-Mag once the 6 cylinder version become available. I would like to have an ignition system that does not rely on 12V to power it once running. Jim C -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim, I tried everything to get my Lightspeed to talk to my AFS.... with no success. Robs people were great, but still nothing.I have a backup Vans tach that I had to hook up using the cable and such out of the back of the motor. What did you do to get it to work. Gotta bespecific here... Not at the hanger, so I can'tcite pin numbers... hopefully you can... Sure would be nice to get it to work, --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Jim <jim@combsfive.com> wrote: From: Jim <jim@combsfive.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? To: rv10-list@matronics.com Have the same configuration Lightspeed on the left and magneto on the right. I wired the AFS tach to the lightspeed ignition. Jim C Do Not Archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> Hi there, I was wondering if you did connect the AFS RPM sensor on the magnet or the LS ignition, or is it even possible to wire both and choose via software where the signal comes from. Thanks Michael -------- RV-10 builder (avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268115#268115


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    Time: 07:40:49 PM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
    Well, when it comes time for overhaul on the mags, if you don't succumb to the siren song of electronics, you might consider a switch to the more reliable Bendix which also have hotter spark. Personally, if I can swing it, will aim for Bendix 1200 series for my engine...about the best high altitude mag out there. ricksked@embarqmail.com wrote: > Just to play devil's advocate and to get an idea of what everyone is > thinking.... I'm running two slick mags...I might opt for one light > speed/P-mag once proven but I can't help but love the reliability > (safety??) of my dual mag system. A totally electrically dependent > ignition system concerns me in a single engine piston aircraft....so > don't bring multi engine turbines or jets into this...were talking good > ol'e lycomings and even auto conversions in this... > Thoughts? > > Rick S. > N246RS......just two mags chuggin along......at 200 mph. Big smile > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: * "Jim" <jim@CombsFive.Com> > *Date: *Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:16:33 -0400 > *To: *<rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Subject: *Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > > My RPM uses the supplied speed sensor from AFS in the right mag vent. I > wired the LightSpeed but use the input from the mag mounted sensor as > the primary RPM input. > > The plan is to eventually replace the mag with a P-Mag / E-Mag once the > 6 cylinder version become available. I would like to have an ignition > system that does not rely on 12V to power it once running. > > > Jim C > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jim, I tried everything to get my Lightspeed to talk to my AFS.... with no > success. Robs people were great, but still nothing. I have a backup Vans > tach that I had to hook up using the cable and such out of the back of the > motor. What did you do to get it to work. Gotta be specific here... Not > at the hanger, so I can't cite pin numbers... hopefully you can... Sure > would be nice to get it to work, > > --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Jim <jim@combsfive.com> wrote: > > > From: Jim <jim@combsfive.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 5:19 PM > > > Have the same configuration Lightspeed on the left and magneto on the > right. I wired the AFS tach to the lightspeed ignition. > > Jim C > > Do Not Archive > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> > > Hi there, > I was wondering if you did connect the AFS RPM sensor on the magnet or the > LS ignition, or is it even possible to wire both and choose via software > where the signal comes from. > > Thanks > Michael > > -------- > RV-10 builder (avionics, wiring) > #511 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268115#268115 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > * > > ~,gM4Gqz.'8E]t.+-fZ+`axr^jzZ(j|n)b'!j'+ry'C > { > ,x(ZP!jrrj|-&j',r5hum 'oj j+E]t.+-08IaT1 > jg rz{Zi^&lZ+ky+k&j',r+k&j',rhB{ky.+jY^.+-i0fr((nbxm-&j',rr&*''k{w/tml


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    Time: 09:13:40 PM PST US
    Subject: G900X System Update
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    Well I finally got to update the G900X system software. All in it should take an hour to 90 minutes to complete as long as you know what you are doing. We were completely uncomfortable with a few early prompts that read as if you are deleting aircraft parameters like fuel & trim calibrations. Now don't get me wrong it is kind of easy to authorize the complete dump of your calibrations but with the helpful assistance of Tim at Garmin we worked out way through the process and completed the update. He is as frustrated as owners are about the process as he has to deal with many of the questions from an ever growing fleet of G900 aircraft. I flew my regular commute today and all is well with the exception of the Synthetic Vision and Pathways (HITS) no longer work. Apparently I have to reauthorize the SVS again to make it available on my system. Of note there is no way to save the user settings like Flight Plans, user way points, screen set up etc... This is a minor inconvenience to me as I didn't have many flight plans saved or many user waypoints but the ones I did have I really liked and there is no way to replace the many of the user waypoints other than flying over the specific spots I wanted and recreating them only to be lost again when the next update comes in Q1, 2010. Seems to me that when designing a sophisticated system like this that backing up user info would be a Release v1.0 item. Regardless I am pleased to now better understand the system and be current. Robin


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    Time: 11:51:43 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
    Subject: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI?
    ... I'm planning dual mags.... trying to make every decision now to keep systems simple, redundant and light. I'll have an all electric panel with two AFS Advance Decks each with their own back up battery, single battery in the back and single alternator. Jeff Carpenter 40304 On Oct 16, 2009, at 5:56 PM, ricksked@embarqmail.com wrote: > Just to play devil's advocate and to get an idea of what everyone is > thinking.... I'm running two slick mags...I might opt for one light > speed/P-mag once proven but I can't help but love the reliability > (safety??) of my dual mag system. A totally electrically dependent > ignition system concerns me in a single engine piston aircraft....so > don't bring multi engine turbines or jets into this...were talking > good ol'e lycomings and even auto conversions in this... > Thoughts? > > Rick S. > N246RS......just two mags chuggin along......at 200 mph. Big smile > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > From: "Jim" <jim@CombsFive.Com> > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:16:33 -0400 > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > > My RPM uses the supplied speed sensor from AFS in the right mag > vent. I wired the LightSpeed but use the input from the mag mounted > sensor as the primary RPM input. > > The plan is to eventually replace the mag with a P-Mag / E-Mag once > the 6 cylinder version become available. I would like to have an > ignition system that does not rely on 12V to power it once running. > > > Jim C > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jim, I tried everything to get my Lightspeed to talk to my AFS.... > with no > success. Robs people were great, but still nothing. I have a > backup Vans > tach that I had to hook up using the cable and such out of the back > of the > motor. What did you do to get it to work. Gotta be specific > here... Not > at the hanger, so I can't cite pin numbers... hopefully you can... > Sure > would be nice to get it to work, > > --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Jim <jim@combsfive.com> wrote: > > > From: Jim <jim@combsfive.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 5:19 PM > > > Have the same configuration Lightspeed on the left and magneto on the > right. I wired the AFS tach to the lightspeed ignition. > > Jim C > > Do Not Archive > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> > > Hi there, > I was wondering if you did connect the AFS RPM sensor on the magnet > or the > LS ignition, or is it even possible to wire both and choose via > software > where the signal comes from. > > Thanks > Michael > > -------- > RV-10 builder (avionics, wiring) > #511 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268115#268115 > > > >




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