---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/17/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:11 AM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (orchidman) 2. 08:37 AM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (Don McDonald) 3. 08:43 AM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (Don McDonald) 4. 01:24 PM - AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (RobHickman@aol.com) 5. 01:29 PM - Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (Michael Wellenzohn) 6. 02:54 PM - Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (William Curtis) 7. 04:26 PM - Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (RobHickman@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:56 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? From: "orchidman" wcurtis(at)nerv10.com wrote: > Gary, > > Yup, I'm confuse by the question andthink I missed your point again. > > AFS provides for RPM input on PINs 16,31 &32 with the included mag sensor--I wired that. AFS also provide for RPM indication with Electronic Ignition on pin 33 --so I wired that also. This gives me the option of which device, mag or Electronic Ignition to get the RPM indicaton from. > > William > I think I see what you are also trying to say. You will go into setup and tell it which source you want? I don't think we can display 2 sources at the same time, can we? Have not looked. And if you switch off the LSI as in a mag check, with LSI selected in setup, will you get any RPM reading? While I loose some redundancy and a backup option, I went with what I think is a simpler solution and just went with the single source. If I lost RPM's at run-up, it would be back to the hanger, but I have flown the plane enough now that if I lost it on TO or enroute, I know I would be able to land uneventfully. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N2GB Flying) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268319#268319 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:25 AM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? Yes, I added the wire to that pin... that was the easy part.... then AFS to ld me I needed to install a 10k ohm resistor in series, and run a leg to gr ound. did that. still nothing. So apparently all you did was run the wire from LS #6 to AFS 33? Sure wish it had been that easy for me. Don McDonald --- On Fri, 10/16/09, William Curtis wrote: From: William Curtis Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? Even though AFS has a provision electronic ignition tach, the harness that come with the AFS does NOT include a pin or wire for for it.- You have to add this additional wire if you want RPM indication from the electronic ig nition on the AFS.- Did you add this additional wire from the LS input co nnector pin 6 to the AFS EM harness pin 33? - See page 4: http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/90Electrical/RV10WireBookAll.pdf - - William http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Don McDonald wrote: Jim, I tried everything to get my Lightspeed to talk to my AFS.... with no success.- Robs people were great, but still nothing.--I have a backup Vans tach that I had to hook up using the cable and such out of the back o f the motor.- What did you do to get it to work.- Gotta be-specific h ere... Not at the hanger, so I can't-cite pin numbers... hopefully you ca n...-- Sure would be nice to get it to work,- --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Jim wrote: From: Jim Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? Have the same configuration Lightspeed on the left and magneto on the right .- I wired the AFS tach to the lightspeed ignition. Jim C =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:21 AM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? Sorry Jim, I forgot to sign my email.... it was me who had the questions on the LSE/AFS tach hook up.- Where are you located? Don McDonald --- On Fri, 10/16/09, Jim wrote: From: Jim Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? Michael, I will swing by the hanger today and give you more details. Jim C Do Not Archive --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim, I tried everything to get my Lightspeed to talk to my AFS.... with no success.- Robs people were great, but still nothing.--I have a backup Vans tach that I had to hook up using the cable and such out of the back o f the motor.- What did you do to get it to work.- Gotta be-specific h ere... Not at the hanger, so I can't-cite pin numbers... hopefully you ca n...-- Sure would be nice to get it to work,- --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Jim wrote: From: Jim Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? Have the same configuration Lightspeed on the left and magneto on the right.- I wired the AFS tach to the lightspeed ignition. Jim C Do Not Archive --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- Hi there, I was wondering if you did connect the AFS RPM sensor on the magnet or the LS ignition, or is it even possible to wire both and choose via software where the signal comes from. Thanks Michael -------- RV-10 builder (avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268115#268115 =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:24:35 PM PST US From: RobHickman@aol.com Subject: RV10-List: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? In a message dated 10/16/2009 6:24:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, wcurtis@nerv10.com writes: AFS provides for RPM input on PINs 16,31 & 32 with the included mag sensor--I wired that. AFS also provide for RPM indication with Electronic Ignition on pin 33 --so I wired that also. This gives me the option of which device, mag or Electronic Ignition to get the RPM indicaton from. William You should only connect 1 RPM input (MAG or Electronic) If you have one mag and one electronic you should use only the MAG input. As long as the mag is still turning you will get displayed RPM even when it is off. You need to disconnect pin 33 or it will not work properly. Rob Hickman Advanced Flight Systems ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:59 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? From: "Michael Wellenzohn" Thank you Rob that was exactly the answer and explanation that I needed. Michael -------- RV-10 builder (avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268340#268340 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:54:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? From: William Curtis I was hoping the software would allow me to alternatively select. Since I want this option in the future, I will install an in-line switch to to pin 33 for now. William On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:22 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 10/16/2009 6:24:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > wcurtis@nerv10.com writes: > > AFS provides for RPM input on PINs 16,31 & 32 with the included mag > sensor--I wired that. AFS also provide for RPM indication with Electronic > Ignition on pin 33 --so I wired that also. This gives me the option of > which device, mag or Electronic Ignition to get the RPM indicaton from. > William > > > You should only connect 1 RPM input (MAG or Electronic) If you have one mag > and one electronic you should use only the MAG input. As long as the mag is > still turning you will get displayed RPM even when it is off. > > You need to disconnect pin 33 or it will not work properly. > > Rob Hickman > Advanced Flight Systems > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:26:16 PM PST US From: RobHickman@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? You do not want or need a switch. If later on you decide to add a 6 Cylinder PMAG you will need to disconnect the RPM sensor and then you will connect the Electronic input to only the PMAG, and yes the PMAG will drive the RPM display even when it is off for your light speed side. We do not want a wire connected to Pin 33 and floating at the switch acting like a big antenna, you will get noise on your RPM display if you do this. In my airplanes I have the following: RV-4 1 Slick Mag 1 PMAG The RPM input is tied from the PMAG to the Electronic RPM input Pin 33 RV-10 1 Slick Mag 1 LightSpeed The RPM input is tied from our RPM sensor in the Mag to RPM input Pin 32 In both cases the RPM display works perfect on RIGHT / LEFT / and BOTH Call me on my cell if you need further assistance. 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