RV10-List Digest Archive

Sun 10/18/09


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 09:51 AM - FWF Kit Notes (nukeflyboy)
     2. 11:55 AM - Re: RV10-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 10/17/09 (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
     3. 05:59 PM - Firewall insulation? (ivankris)
     4. 06:50 PM - Re: Firewall insulation? (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:51:54 AM PST US
    Subject: FWF Kit Notes
    From: "nukeflyboy" <flymoore@charter.net>
    I received my FWF kit this week and I thought I'd share some things worth noting. First, Van's has no engine mounts in stock and apparently can't get them from their vendor. The ones that have been supplied in the kit are made by Vibration Isolation Products out of California. Van's has a note on their website that says they are looking for other sources. In the interim you can cancel them out of your kit (or backorder) and obtain elsewhere or wait for Van's to resolve. I have opted to cancel my backorder and obtain them from Aircraft Spruce. The equivalent part numbers are as follows: Lord: J 3804-20 Barry Controls: 94110-01 Second, I have attached photos of the hoses that I received. These look to be of good quality. All are stainless steel braid and the fuel lines are fire sleeved. Van's says that they are teflon coated, meaning lined. I can not verify this but I have no reason to doubt it. In the picture the hoses are (top to bottom) VA-189 and 138 Fuel lines VA-190 and 135 Oil lines VA-133 and 102 Oil and Fuel Pressure Finally, there is no air/oil separator so you will have to order that if you want one. -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268416#268416 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/va_189_819.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/fwf_hoses_630.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/isolators_207.pdf


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    Time: 11:55:26 AM PST US
    From: Robert Brunkenhoefer <rebrunk42@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RV10-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 10/17/09
    I am doing maintenance on the nose fork . I can't get the fork off the spindle. It is very tight . Help!!! Sent from my iPhone Robert E. Brunkenhoefer Brunkenhoefer Law Firm, P.C. 520 Lawrence St. Corpus Christi, Texas 78401 Phone: 361-888-8808 Facsimile: 361-888-6753 robert@brunklaw.com On Oct 18, 2009, at 1:58 AM, RV10-List Digest Server <rv10-list@matronics.com > wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete RV10-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest > formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked > Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII > version > of the RV10-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 09-10-17&Archive=RV10 > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 09-10-17&Archive=RV10 > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > RV10-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sat 10/17/09: 7 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 06:11 AM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > (orchidman) > 2. 08:37 AM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (Don > McDonald) > 3. 08:43 AM - Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (Don > McDonald) > 4. 01:24 PM - AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (RobHickman@aol.com > ) > 5. 01:29 PM - Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (Michael > Wellenzohn) > 6. 02:54 PM - Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (William > Curtis) > 7. 04:26 PM - Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? (RobHickman@aol.com > ) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:11:56 AM PST US > Subject: RV10-List: Re: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com> > > > wcurtis(at)nerv10.com wrote: >> Gary, >> >> Yup, I'm confuse by the question andthink I missed your point again. >> >> AFS provides for RPM input on PINs 16,31 &32 with the included mag >> sensor--I > wired that. AFS also provide for RPM indication with Electronic > Ignition on pin > 33 --so I wired that also. This gives me the option of which device, > mag or > Electronic Ignition to get the RPM indicaton from. >> >> William >> > > I think I see what you are also trying to say. You will go into > setup and tell > it which source you want? I don't think we can display 2 sources at > the same > time, can we? Have not looked. And if you switch off the LSI as in > a mag check, > with LSI selected in setup, will you get any RPM reading? > While I loose some redundancy and a backup option, I went with what > I think is > a simpler solution and just went with the single source. > If I lost RPM's at run-up, it would be back to the hanger, but I > have flown the > plane enough now that if I lost it on TO or enroute, I know I would > be able to > land uneventfully. > > -------- > Gary Blankenbiller > RV10 - # 40674 > (N2GB Flying) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268319#268319 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:37:25 AM PST US > From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > > Yes, I added the wire to that pin... that was the easy part.... then > AFS to > ld me I needed to install a 10k ohm resistor in series, and run a > leg to gr > ound. did that. still nothing. > So apparently all you did was run the wire from LS #6 to AFS 33? > Sure wish it had been that easy for me. > Don McDonald > > --- On Fri, 10/16/09, William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com> wrote: > > > From: William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > > > Even though AFS has a provision electronic ignition tach, the > harness that > come with the AFS does NOT include a pin or wire for for it.- You > have to > add this additional wire if you want RPM indication from the > electronic ig > nition on the AFS.- Did you add this additional wire from the LS > input co > nnector pin 6 to the AFS EM harness pin 33? > - > See page 4: > http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/90Electrical/RV10WireBookAll.pdf > - > - > William > http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com > > > wrote: > > > Jim, I tried everything to get my Lightspeed to talk to my AFS.... > with no > success.- Robs people were great, but still nothing.--I have a backup > Vans tach that I had to hook up using the cable and such out of the > back o > f the motor.- What did you do to get it to work.- Gotta be-specific h > ere... Not at the hanger, so I can't-cite pin numbers... hopefully > you ca > n...-- Sure would be nice to get it to work,- > > --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Jim <jim@combsfive.com> wrote: > > > From: Jim <jim@combsfive.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > > > Have the same configuration Lightspeed on the left and magneto on > the right > .- I wired the AFS tach to the lightspeed ignition. > > Jim C > > > =0A=0A=0A > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:43:21 AM PST US > From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > > Sorry Jim, I forgot to sign my email.... it was me who had the > questions on > the LSE/AFS tach hook up.- Where are you located? > Don McDonald > > > --- On Fri, 10/16/09, Jim <jim@combsfive.com> wrote: > > > From: Jim <jim@combsfive.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > > > Michael, > > I will swing by the hanger today and give you more details. > > Jim C > > Do Not Archive > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jim, I tried everything to get my Lightspeed to talk to my AFS.... > with no > success.- Robs people were great, but still nothing.--I have a backup > Vans tach that I had to hook up using the cable and such out of the > back o > f the motor.- What did you do to get it to work.- Gotta be-specific h > ere... Not at the hanger, so I can't-cite pin numbers... hopefully > you ca > n...-- Sure would be nice to get it to work,- > > --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Jim <jim@combsfive.com> wrote: > > > From: Jim <jim@combsfive.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFM RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > > > Have the same configuration Lightspeed on the left and magneto on the > right.- I wired the AFS tach to the lightspeed ignition. > > Jim C > > Do Not Archive > > --- > --- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------- > <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> > > Hi there, > I was wondering if you did connect the AFS RPM sensor on the magnet > or the > LS ignition, or is it even possible to wire both and choose via > software > where the signal comes from. > > Thanks > Michael > > -------- > RV-10 builder (avionics, wiring) > #511 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268115#268115 > > > =0A=0A=0A > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:24:35 PM PST US > From: RobHickman@aol.com > Subject: RV10-List: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > > > In a message dated 10/16/2009 6:24:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > wcurtis@nerv10.com writes: > > AFS provides for RPM input on PINs 16,31 & 32 with the included mag > sensor--I wired that. AFS also provide for RPM indication with > Electronic > Ignition on pin 33 --so I wired that also. This gives me the > option of which > > device, mag or Electronic Ignition to get the RPM indicaton from. > > William > > > You should only connect 1 RPM input (MAG or Electronic) If you have > one > mag and one electronic you should use only the MAG input. As long > as the mag > > is still turning you will get displayed RPM even when it is off. > > You need to disconnect pin 33 or it will not work properly. > > Rob Hickman > Advanced Flight Systems > > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:29:59 PM PST US > Subject: RV10-List: Re: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> > > > Thank you Rob that was exactly the answer and explanation that I > needed. > > Michael > > -------- > RV-10 builder (avionics, wiring) > #511 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268340#268340 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:54:50 PM PST US > Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > From: William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com> > > I was hoping the software would allow me to alternatively select. > Since I > want this option in the future, I will install an in-line switch to > to pin > 33 for now. > > William > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:22 PM, <RobHickman@aol.com> wrote: > >> In a message dated 10/16/2009 6:24:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> wcurtis@nerv10.com writes: >> >> AFS provides for RPM input on PINs 16,31 & 32 with the included mag >> sensor--I wired that. AFS also provide for RPM indication with >> Electronic >> Ignition on pin 33 --so I wired that also. This gives me the >> option of >> which device, mag or Electronic Ignition to get the RPM indicaton >> from. >> William >> >> >> You should only connect 1 RPM input (MAG or Electronic) If you have >> one mag >> and one electronic you should use only the MAG input. As long as >> the mag is >> still turning you will get displayed RPM even when it is off. >> >> You need to disconnect pin 33 or it will not work properly. >> >> Rob Hickman >> Advanced Flight Systems >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 7 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:26:16 PM PST US > From: RobHickman@aol.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFS RPM Transducer on Magnet or LSI? > > You do not want or need a switch. If later on you decide to add a 6 > Cylinder PMAG you will need to disconnect the RPM sensor and then > you will > connect the Electronic input to only the PMAG, and yes the PMAG will > drive the > > RPM display even when it is off for your light speed side. We do > not want a > wire connected to Pin 33 and floating at the switch acting like a big > antenna, you will get noise on your RPM display if you do this. > > In my airplanes I have the following: > > RV-4 > 1 Slick Mag > 1 PMAG > The RPM input is tied from the PMAG to the Electronic RPM input Pin > 33 > > RV-10 > > 1 Slick Mag > 1 LightSpeed > The RPM input is tied from our RPM sensor in the Mag to RPM input > Pin 32 > > In both cases the RPM display works perfect on RIGHT / LEFT / and > BOTH > > > Call me on my cell if you need further assistance. > > (503) 701-5042 > > Rob Hickman > >


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    Time: 05:59:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Firewall insulation?
    From: "ivankris" <ivankris@rogers.com>
    I am going to set the glareshield on he fuselage permanently soon but before I do I would like to insulate the inside of the firewall with a good quality insulating material. My question to the list is what is the best material to use and where do I find it? -------- Ivan K. www.ivankristensen.com Builder # 40838 Wiring Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268462#268462


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    Time: 06:50:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firewall insulation?
    From: ricksked@embarqmail.com
    Do the outside...with koolmat...works great... Rick Sked N246RS Almost 60 hours and counting Going to Santa Monica Thursday ------Original Message------ From: ivankris Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: Rv Sent: Oct 18, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: RV10-List: Firewall insulation? I am going to set the glareshield on he fuselage permanently soon but before I do I would like to insulate the inside of the firewall with a good quality insulating material. My question to the list is what is the best material to use and where do I find it? -------- Ivan K. www.ivankristensen.com Builder # 40838 Wiring Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268462#268462 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T




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