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1. 02:21 AM - Re: Big Iron Envy (AKflyers)
2. 03:41 AM - Re: Elevator travel vs. stick grip clearance (Walt Fuller)
3. 04:31 AM - Re: Way Off Topic: New PIC (cjay)
4. 04:32 AM - Re: Way Off Topic: New PIC (David Maib)
5. 05:57 AM - Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (johngoodman)
6. 07:13 AM - Re: Seat belts and windows (tsts4)
7. 08:29 AM - Re: Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (Jeffery J. Morgan)
8. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (Tim Olson)
9. 09:38 AM - Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (orchidman)
10. 11:13 AM - Re: Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
11. 11:51 AM - Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (orchidman)
12. 11:54 AM - Re: Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (Tim Olson)
13. 12:49 PM - Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (orchidman)
14. 01:36 PM - Re: Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (Tim Olson)
15. 09:22 PM - Oil filter apology (Sheldon Olesen)
16. 10:53 PM - Re: Oil filter apology (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | Re: Big Iron Envy |
We have installed both the MaxDim and MaxPulse in our planes. Both work great
and were easy to install. I must add my two cents here. LoPresti, RMD, Knot2U,
xevision, the leaders in the HID market, and others are pulsing the HIDs.
So yes it can be done it seems. The question may be - how does it effect the
long term life of the HID bulbs? LoPresti puts it like this -
http://speedmods.com/PowerPulse.htm look at the Urban Myths, and you can compare the systems here - http://maxpulsemaxdim.com/comparisons.htm . However, only one system is STC'd and has the warmup delay that seems to be so important. That is the MaxPulse unit. We cannot say if this is important or not. Everyone seems to have a different take on it. But if the HIDs have a 5000 hour life and pulsing them reduces that life by 10% you are going to be in the pilot seat for many, many hours. Your HIDs could very well outlive you. It would seem that being seen is far more important than anything? Safety anyone?
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator travel vs. stick grip clearance |
Here is a link to a short slide show of the build. I will post some better pictures
soon.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=100395192
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| Subject: | Re: Way Off Topic: New PIC |
Tim Olson wrote:
> Sorry that this is way off topic but I'm kind of excited because now
> N104CD has an official co-pilot....ME! Yes, the little lady now not
> only wears the pants in the house but in the cockpit too, since she's
> now a pilot!
> Tim O. - N104CD's F.O.
so did she do the flight training in the 10?
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| Subject: | Re: Way Off Topic: New PIC |
Mary and I send hearty congratulations to Andrea! Way to go!
David and Mary Maib
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines.
Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails.
Explore. Dream. Discover."
-Mark Twain
On Nov 3, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
Sorry that this is way off topic but I'm kind of excited because now
N104CD has an official co-pilot....ME! Yes, the little lady now not
only wears the pants in the house but in the cockpit too, since she's
now a pilot!
Tim O. - N104CD's F.O.
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| Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
I'd be careful about lifetime offers. I once had a car battery from JC Pennys that
was guaranteed for life. Then they went bankrupt.
John
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delivery soon.
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| Subject: | Re: Seat belts and windows |
Bill,
For the seat belts, Section 49. For the rear windows, Section 45, page 45-18 Steps
1 & 2. Basically it just says use the same procedure that you used for the
door windows.
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Todd Stovall
728TT (reserved)
RV-10 Empacone, Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
For the price though, if you get more than 2 years, it is less than
buying it for two years. They have been around for a while and growing,
so should be a safe bet.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:57 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription
<johngoodman@earthlink.net>
I'd be careful about lifetime offers. I once had a car battery from JC
Pennys that was guaranteed for life. Then they went bankrupt.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
From looking at their Beta release that I'm checking out,
their Data manager supports both Voyager and the AV8OR GPS,
so apparently somehow they built a relationship with those
guys too. So it does seem that they're growing. They also
I think just released a total solution where you buy the
tablet pre-loaded and it was some pretty darn good price
like just over $1000 or something.
I can't say it's right for everyone, but really, there's
no way any handheld or non-panel EFIS can compare to the
number of features for the price, and it's a great flight
planner too. So I figure it's something I'll be using
forever anyway. It usually plans my flight times within
a minute or two of actual point-to-point times, so I use
it all the time.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Jeffery J. Morgan wrote:
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> buying it for two years. They have been around for a while and growing,
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| Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
Tim Olson wrote:
> From looking at their Beta release that I'm checking out,
> their Data manager supports both Voyager and the AV8OR GPS,
> so apparently somehow they built a relationship with those
> guys too. So it does seem that they're growing. They also
> I think just released a total solution where you buy the
> tablet pre-loaded and it was some pretty darn good price
> like just over $1000 or something.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
I went with the tablet with the internal hard drive. I loaded the beta last night
and checked the hard drive usage. It is over 38g. I have been planning on
upgrading the the 32g SSD (which is the only option available) but now I am
going to have to figure how they are handling this. And I have added nothing.
This is not good [Crying or Very sad]
Will have to check to see where all the memory is going. Looks like it downloaded
all the approach plates, sectionals and IFR maps for the US but I don't think
it should have chewed up 38g. for the data + the tablet
PC OS.
Tim, do you have any idea how much just your data is consuming?
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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| Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
Gary, SSD's have been well over 32GB for more than a year. I use a 60GB SSD
that I bought a year ago to transfer files between my office and home. It is
interchangeable with any laptop that is less than a couple years old.
Michael
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=636&name=Solid-State-Disks
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:36 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription
Tim Olson wrote:
> From looking at their Beta release that I'm checking out,
> their Data manager supports both Voyager and the AV8OR GPS,
> so apparently somehow they built a relationship with those
> guys too. So it does seem that they're growing. They also
> I think just released a total solution where you buy the
> tablet pre-loaded and it was some pretty darn good price
> like just over $1000 or something.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
I went with the tablet with the internal hard drive. I loaded the beta last night
and checked the hard drive usage. It is over 38g. I have been planning on
upgrading the the 32g SSD (which is the only option available) but now I am
going to have to figure how they are handling this. And I have added nothing.
This is not good [Crying or Very sad]
Will have to check to see where all the memory is going. Looks like it downloaded
all the approach plates, sectionals and IFR maps for the US but I don't think
it should have chewed up 38g. for the data + the tablet
PC OS.
Tim, do you have any idea how much just your data is consuming?
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RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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| Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
msausen wrote:
> Gary, SSD's have been well over 32GB for more than a year. I use a 60GB SSD
that I bought a year ago to transfer files between my office and home. It is
interchangeable with any laptop that is less than a couple years old.
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> Michael
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If I only had that option. They are using the 1.8" PATA ZIF drive and they are
only available in 16 and 32g that are compatible.
The tablet they are selling appears to be one of the first of the new Net Books
that is also a tablet.
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| Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
Gary,
I'm not sure how yours got so full. I download all charts except only 2
of the High Altitude IFR charts, and I have lots of space left. I
wonder if you have a duplication of your chart storage or something.
Maybe during loading the beta you copied the charts and duplicated them?
I'll load the beta on my tablet tonight and see what I have for free
space, but you should have plenty left on even a 32GB drive. Mine is
a 32, and I think I have a lot of other stuff there too.
If you get too lost, I can email you what you'd need to do to do a
complete removal and re-install, and you could see what it does. But
first I'll upgrade mine and let you know how it comes out.
I have it on my work laptop and I didn't see any real increase
in space after loading it....so I'm guessing you have something
copied or filling up extra space, like maybe a duplicate chart
repository.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
orchidman wrote:
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> Tim Olson wrote:
>> From looking at their Beta release that I'm checking out,
>> their Data manager supports both Voyager and the AV8OR GPS,
>> so apparently somehow they built a relationship with those
>> guys too. So it does seem that they're growing. They also
>> I think just released a total solution where you buy the
>> tablet pre-loaded and it was some pretty darn good price
>> like just over $1000 or something.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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> I went with the tablet with the internal hard drive. I loaded the beta last
night and checked the hard drive usage. It is over 38g. I have been planning
on upgrading the the 32g SSD (which is the only option available) but now I am
going to have to figure how they are handling this. And I have added nothing.
This is not good [Crying or Very sad]
>
> Will have to check to see where all the memory is going. Looks like it downloaded
all the approach plates, sectionals and IFR maps for the US but I don't
think it should have chewed up 38g. for the data + the tablet
> PC OS.
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> Tim, do you have any idea how much just your data is consuming?
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> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> (N2GB Flying)
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| Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
Tim Olson wrote:
> Gary,
>
> I'm not sure how yours got so full. I download all charts except only 2
> of the High Altitude IFR charts, and I have lots of space left. I
> wonder if you have a duplication of your chart storage or something.
> Maybe during loading the beta you copied the charts and duplicated them?
> I'll load the beta on my tablet tonight and see what I have for free
> space, but you should have plenty left on even a 32GB drive. Mine is
> a 32, and I think I have a lot of other stuff there too.
>
I figure that is what is going on but right now time at home is at a premium.
Heading to California this Sat in the -10 and trying to make sure everything
is in order. Will be the first real long trip with good potential of IFR (rain)
at my destination.
> If you get too lost, I can email you what you'd need to do to do a
> complete removal and re-install, and you could see what it does. But
> first I'll upgrade mine and let you know how it comes out.
> I have it on my work laptop and I didn't see any real increase
> in space after loading it....so I'm guessing you have something
> copied or filling up extra space, like maybe a duplicate chart
> repository.
>
Thanks, I will let you know if I can't find it and need help.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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| Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
OK, I just verified space for you.
I have about 6.5GB free on a 32GB drive, with a full install,
including every Approach Plate, Every Sectional, Every
TAC, every WAC, Every Low Altitude Enroute, and 2 of
the 12 High Altitude enroutes. So most of the charts
available and actually far more than I'll ever use. I could
easily trim space by deleting the High Enroutes, and many
of the WAC's and Sectionals from Alaska until I go there.
After upgrading to the latest version of Beta that just came
out this week, I actually got .1GB MORE space left than before.
On that same tablet, I also have installed:
Microsoft Word and Excel from Office 2003
Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009
A large motorola program for using your phone as
a broadband modem.
Some network utilities and VPN Client for
doing work things.
A virtual drive program
Vi for windows editor
Lots of MS power Toys
AVG antivirus
Adobe reader
Winamp
Zone alarm pro
So there are plenty of things for me to use it as a work
computer while I'm out.
So, if you're overflowing a 32GB drive, you've got
something else going on, but it isn't Voyager that's
doing it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
orchidman wrote:
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> Tim Olson wrote:
>> Gary,
>>
>> I'm not sure how yours got so full. I download all charts except only 2
>> of the High Altitude IFR charts, and I have lots of space left. I
>> wonder if you have a duplication of your chart storage or something.
>> Maybe during loading the beta you copied the charts and duplicated them?
>> I'll load the beta on my tablet tonight and see what I have for free
>> space, but you should have plenty left on even a 32GB drive. Mine is
>> a 32, and I think I have a lot of other stuff there too.
>>
>
> I figure that is what is going on but right now time at home is at a premium.
Heading to California this Sat in the -10 and trying to make sure everything
is in order. Will be the first real long trip with good potential of IFR (rain)
at my destination.
>
>> If you get too lost, I can email you what you'd need to do to do a
>> complete removal and re-install, and you could see what it does. But
>> first I'll upgrade mine and let you know how it comes out.
>> I have it on my work laptop and I didn't see any real increase
>> in space after loading it....so I'm guessing you have something
>> copied or filling up extra space, like maybe a duplicate chart
>> repository.
>>
>
> Thanks, I will let you know if I can't find it and need help.
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> RV10 - # 40674
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| Subject: | Oil filter apology |
On Aug 11, I made a post about my crushed Kelly oil filter and
included pictures. I want to set the record straight. The failed
filter was the wrong filter for the engine. I am both sorry for and
embarrassed by my mistake. The difference between the correct filter
(48108-1) and the incorrect filter(48110) is an internal oil bypass
valve in the correct filter. I was unaware until about a week ago
that there was any substantive difference between the two filters
other than the 108 had female threads and the 110 had male
threading. I'll explain how all of this happened.
I was at home and going to do an Aircraft Spruce order and remembered
that I needed more oil filters. I didn't remember the filter number
so I looked it up in the A/C Spruce catalog where the IO-540 was
listed under the 110 filter. When I got the 110's it was obvious
that one filter(110) was male and the other filter (108) female.
That wasn't a big problem because the male adapter for the ECI angled
filter adapter came off with the 108 filter. I figured there was no
sense of messing around with the male adapter if it comes off easily--
just use the filter with the male threading built in. So I put the
110 filter on and flew with no indications that there were any
problems until I took it off and found the filter media crushed
inside the metal shell. This was around OSH time so I asked Kelly
what might be the problem. The very short answer from them was the
engine. I also asked the Mattituck guy what might be the problem.
His answer was the filter. I emailed the Light Plane Maintenance
editor and asked the same question and his answer was the filter. I
also had emails from people on the RV-10 list telling me to check the
engine and hoses which I did. Nothing seemed amiss with the engine,
hoses, or oil pressure. Since I could find nothing wrong with the
engine and I ordered new Champion filters and put a new Champ 110
on. I checked it regularly and it wasn't looking distressed at all.
There were no signs of crushing. I thought my problems were over.
While all of this was going on Kim Santerre of LPM wanted pictures of
my crushed filter and I sent them. He was doing an article in LPM on
defective filters and my problem fit right in. The article appeared
last month in LPM with my filter pictures prominently on the cover.
Kelly was not happy about the coverage and started discussions with
LPM. While digging deeper to address Kelly's concerns, Santerre
contacted Mattituck and found out that my model engine ships with the
ECI angle adapter and should have a 108 filter because the adapter
has no bypass valve. Santerre thought that I must have the straight
adapter with the integral oil bypass valve since I was using the 110
filter. That's when I found out about the real difference between a
108 and a 110. It was very embarrassing to tell him that I had an
angled adapter and I should have been using the 108 filter. A
clarification is to appear in the next issue of LPM. Kim Santerre
has been very gracious during all of this fiasco.
Apparently I'm not the only owner who has been confused about the the
108 and 110 filters. Mattituck has a warning that they now ship with
the ECI adapter equipped engines. My engine was shipped in July,
2007 and the warning came out in Oct 2007. See the attachment. I
think that ECI has a poor adapter design since it is possible to
remove the male threading with no difficulty. A fixed male thread
design would make it impossible to use the wrong filter. I still
think that the Champion filter is superior to the Kelly since it
survived in a situation where the Kelly failed although I'm sure the
Kelly will work just fine in the proper installation.
Sheldon Olesen
N475PV 119 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: Oil filter apology |
Wow Sheldon, thanks for the update on the situation. It's actually
comforting to know that it was something so simple yet so confusing,
and not some other wild engine problem.
For the builders out there, make sure you read ALL of the line
in his post....don't just skim in. The 48110 filter is indeed
the right filter for many of us. And, for people who have
the adapter from ECI like Sheldon does, the 48108 is the right
one. So don't just skim the post without coming away with the
full understanding, or you may inadvertently get the wrong
filter.
Sheldon, do you know if ECI is basically the ONLY adapter that
we have to worry about this with? I know in my case I just
have the standard straight adapter, and I need to use the
48110 male thread filter. But I'm curious....does the B&C
or any other filter adapter bring potential issues for other
builders? Up until now, I basically thought the 48110 was
the "only" filter for our engines. Especially when you
see this page:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/2010Individual/Cat10304.pdf
The 48108 doesn't even list a 540 model...but as you found,
that's not the same if you run the ECI adapter.
Thanks for the post...I know a few TMX engine buyers, so
I'm sure it'll be something they'll want to know.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
Sheldon Olesen wrote:
> On Aug 11, I made a post about my crushed Kelly oil filter and included
> pictures. I want to set the record straight. The failed filter was the
> wrong filter for the engine. I am both sorry for and embarrassed by my
> mistake. The difference between the correct filter(48108-1) and the
> incorrect filter(48110) is an internal oil bypass valve in the correct
> filter. I was unaware until about a week ago that there was any
> substantive difference between the two filters other than the 108 had
> female threads and the 110 had male threading. I'll explain how all of
> this happened.
>
> I was at home and going to do an Aircraft Spruce order and remembered
> that I needed more oil filters. I didn't remember the filter number so
> I looked it up in the A/C Spruce catalog where the IO-540 was listed
> under the 110 filter. When I got the 110's it was obvious that one
> filter(110) was male and the other filter (108) female. That wasn't a
> big problem because the male adapter for the ECI angled filter adapter
> came off with the 108 filter. I figured there was no sense of messing
> around with the male adapter if it comes off easily--just use the filter
> with the male threading built in. So I put the 110 filter on and flew
> with no indications that there were any problems until I took it off and
> found the filter media crushed inside the metal shell. This was around
> OSH time so I asked Kelly what might be the problem. The very short
> answer from them was the engine. I also asked the Mattituck guy what
> might be the problem. His answer was the filter. I emailed the Light
> Plane Maintenance editor and asked the same question and his answer was
> the filter. I also had emails from people on the RV-10 list telling me
> to check the engine and hoses which I did. Nothing seemed amiss with
> the engine, hoses, or oil pressure. Since I could find nothing wrong
> with the engine and I ordered new Champion filters and put a new Champ
> 110 on. I checked it regularly and it wasn't looking distressed at
> all. There were no signs of crushing. I thought my problems were over.
>
> While all of this was going on Kim Santerre of LPM wanted pictures of my
> crushed filter and I sent them. He was doing an article in LPM on
> defective filters and my problem fit right in. The article appeared
> last month in LPM with my filter pictures prominently on the cover.
> Kelly was not happy about the coverage and started discussions with
> LPM. While digging deeper to address Kelly's concerns, Santerre
> contacted Mattituck and found out that my model engine ships with the
> ECI angle adapter and should have a 108 filter because the adapter has
> no bypass valve. Santerre thought that I must have the straight adapter
> with the integral oil bypass valve since I was using the 110 filter.
> That's when I found out about the real difference between a 108 and a
> 110. It was very embarrassing to tell him that I had an angled adapter
> and I should have been using the 108 filter. A clarification is to
> appear in the next issue of LPM. Kim Santerre has been very gracious
> during all of this fiasco.
>
> Apparently I'm not the only owner who has been confused about the the
> 108 and 110 filters. Mattituck has a warning that they now ship with
> the ECI adapter equipped engines. My engine was shipped in July, 2007
> and the warning came out in Oct 2007. See the attachment. I think
> that ECI has a poor adapter design since it is possible to remove the
> male threading with no difficulty. A fixed male thread design would
> make it impossible to use the wrong filter. I still think that the
> Champion filter is superior to the Kelly since it survived in a
> situation where the Kelly failed although I'm sure the Kelly will work
> just fine in the proper installation.
>
>
>
> Sheldon Olesen
>
> N475PV 119 hrs.
>
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