RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 11/25/09


Total Messages Posted: 28



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:19 AM - Re: Main Gear Shimmy - While Braking (jkreidler)
     2. 04:44 AM - Re: windows & fiberglass (Carl Froehlich)
     3. 05:18 AM - Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow (Jesse Saint)
     4. 05:53 AM - Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow (Linn Walters)
     5. 06:32 AM - Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow (Kelly McMullen)
     6. 06:42 AM - Re: windows & fiberglass (Jeff Carpenter)
     7. 07:03 AM - Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow (David McNeill)
     8. 08:22 AM - Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow (Jesse Saint)
     9. 09:12 AM - Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow (RobHickman@aol.com)
    10. 09:52 AM - Re: Main Gear Shimmy - While Braking (John Gonzalez)
    11. 09:55 AM - Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow (Don McDonald)
    12. 09:57 AM - Re: windows & fiberglass (John Gonzalez)
    13. 10:52 AM - Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow (John Cumins)
    14. 10:55 AM - Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow (RobHickman@aol.com)
    15. 11:37 AM - Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow (Jesse Saint)
    16. 01:20 PM - Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow (Kelly McMullen)
    17. 03:10 PM - Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow (Don McDonald)
    18. 03:58 PM - Garmin G900X Update / G3X Update (Robin Marks)
    19. 05:22 PM - Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal (Thane States)
    20. 05:40 PM - Re: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal (Ralph E. Capen)
    21. 05:47 PM - Re: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal (Jim)
    22. 06:27 PM - Re: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal (Deems Davis)
    23. 07:14 PM - Voyager sale Fri only (Tim Olson)
    24. 07:15 PM - Re: Main Gear Shimmy - While Braking (Strasnuts)
    25. 07:34 PM - Re: Main Gear Shimmy - While Braking (Andrew Stryker)
    26. 07:36 PM - Section 31 - Upper Fwd fuse (Perry, Phil)
    27. 08:04 PM - Re: Section 31 - Upper Fwd fuse (Bob Leffler)
    28. 08:33 PM - Re: Section 31 - Upper Fwd fuse (Perry, Phil)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:19:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Main Gear Shimmy - While Braking
    From: "jkreidler" <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
    I am not sure I understand your statement.... Please expand. My point in passing this along was really to say that for us (again for us), the fix was as simple as tightening the axle nut. This solution came after checking toe, contemplating balancing tires, researching brake failure modes, etc. In the end after hours of head scratching it was just a basic maintenance item. Possibly everyone on the list who has faced main gear shimmy issues has a different problem, but I could not find this solution anywhere. I also couldn't find a case of someone who changed their toe setting and solved the problem. -------- Jason Kreidler 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler N44YH - Flying - #40617 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274735#274735


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    Time: 04:44:44 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: windows & fiberglass
    Dave, There have been numerous threads on using or not using Weld On. I decided to not use Weld On, instead using Hysol (the product used by Lancair for their windows). http://www.aerocraftparts.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=9360-QT&ReturnUrl=Categorie s.aspx?Category=992b7b06-e01b-4918-bb0c-79343cdb7869 I know other builders have used standard fiberglass epoxy or Scotch-Weld 2216 epoxy (both with flox) with successful results. I used the Scotch Weld product for the control surfaces trailing edge and to install the Naca ducts. It is a good product. Talking with other builders and looking at builder websites, here are some tips I gathered: 1. Have a good 1/16" gap between the edge of the glass and the fiberglass opening (exterior of the plane). This allows excess adhesive a place to exit, and fills the gap as well. 2. Mask off everything other than the mating surfaces. I use the "10 rolls for $3.99" Harbor Freight electrical tape for this as it leaves no residue and can take some sandpaper hits. For the masking on the edge where I'll do glass trim work later I use two layers of tape. 3 Roughen the window and fiberglass mating surfaces with 60 grit paper. 4. Apply a thin coat of adhesive to both mating surfaces. 5. Use a mixture of flox, Cab-O-Sil and adhesive to coat the mating surface. The flox helps fill the voids and the Cab-O-Sil thickens the mix so it does not run. You may want to experiment first to get a mixture you like. 6. For Hysol, let cure for a week before doing trim work. 7. I've seen a few RV-10 with cracks around the window where filler was used. The ones I've seen with the window/fiberglass junction was first covered with a bid or two of glass then faired in with filler did not have cracks. My end product will have glass/filler/paint covering the edge so that you do not see through the window to the adhesive. Many ways to do this - mine is but one. Carl Froehlich RV-8A (500 hrs) RV-10 (systems install) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rvdave Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:37 AM Subject: RV10-List: windows & fiberglass Am at the point of doors, windows, and getting ready to attach plex to fiberglass. I'm considering using sikaflex, West Marine has the sikaflex291, is this the one others are using, or is there another? Also, is it common practice to glass over the window edge to cover the flange/plex bonding point so the adhesive can't be seen through the window? -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274728#274728


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    Time: 05:18:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    I agree that you don't want your EGT"s too high on takeoff. Within 200 degrees rich of peak is the danger zone as described by Gami. I don't think I'd want to see 1300 on takeoff. I'd rather not see over 1250, I think. Rob, I don't pay that much attention to the actual fuel flow, but I know I've seen anywhere from 24-26gph (some change obviously caused by the boost pump). What is your EGT on takeoff? That MAP does seem a little bit low. What is your elevation? I usually see in the 29"+ range. If you're only making 27.9", then I would expect a lower fuel flow. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Nov 24, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > I don't know what hood high EGTs means. Fuel flow should be such that > takeoff EGT is between 1200 and 1300 degrees. That should give you 200 > degrees rich of sea level peak EGT. Anything over 1300 calls for more > fuel flow, less than 1200, less fuel flow. > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote: >> Are you getting full rpm, MP and hood high EGT's? >> Fuel flow is secondary to these indicators. >> grumpy >> N184JM >> do not archive >> >> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:00 PM, RobHickman@aol.com wrote: >> >> I am in the middle of injector tuning on my RV-10 and my neighbor is >> convinced that I do not have enough fuel flow on takeoff. >> >> At sea level I am getting: >> >> RPM 2700 >> MAN 27.9" >> >> 24.2 GPH >> >> Rob Hickman >> N402RH RV-10 >> >> =================================== >> lectric.com >> m">www.buildersbooks.com >> ebuilthelp.com >> w.matronics.com/contribution >> =================================== >> tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> =================================== >> nics.com >> =================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 05:53:14 AM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow
    I'd like to remind y'all that talking EGT numbers really isn't relevant between aircraft due to differences in installation of the probes. Distance from the exhaust flange and even the placement on the circumference of the exhaust pipe will change the EGT value. What would be relevant is the difference from peak, and ROP or LOP, much like the GAMI quote from Jesse. Linn Jesse Saint wrote: > <jesse@saintaviation.com> > > I agree that you don't want your EGT"s too high on takeoff. Within > 200 degrees rich of peak is the danger zone as described by Gami. I > don't think I'd want to see 1300 on takeoff. I'd rather not see over > 1250, I think. Rob, I don't pay that much attention to the actual > fuel flow, but I know I've seen anywhere from 24-26gph (some change > obviously caused by the boost pump). What is your EGT on takeoff? > That MAP does seem a little bit low. What is your elevation? I > usually see in the 29"+ range. If you're only making 27.9", then I > would expect a lower fuel flow. > > do not archive > > Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: > 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > >> >> >> I don't know what hood high EGTs means. Fuel flow should be such >> that takeoff EGT is between 1200 and 1300 degrees. That should give >> you 200 degrees rich of sea level peak EGT. Anything over 1300 >> calls for more fuel flow, less than 1200, less fuel flow. >> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> >> wrote: >>> Are you getting full rpm, MP and hood high EGT's? Fuel flow is >>> secondary to these indicators. grumpy N184JM do not archive >>> >>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:00 PM, RobHickman@aol.com wrote: >>> >>> I am in the middle of injector tuning on my RV-10 and my neighbor >>> is convinced that I do not have enough fuel flow on takeoff. >>> >>> At sea level I am getting: >>> >>> RPM 2700 MAN 27.9" >>> >>> 24.2 GPH >>> >>> Rob Hickman N402RH RV-10 >>> >>> ==================================== lectric.com >>> m">www.buildersbooks.com ebuilthelp.com >>> w.matronics.com/contribution =================================== >>> tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> ==================================== nics.com >>> =================================== >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:32:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    I agree with you in general, however, full power takeoff from sea level is a consistent benchmark. With standard conditions a rule of thumb that is a bit rich of what is needed is 1 gph per 10 hp. As for EGT, I use UBG-16 on my 200hp Mooney, with the probes at the recommended 1.5" from the exhaust flange. I find that 1300 as an upper limit, with 1250 as a target works very well, keeps my CHT in the low 300s in all but the hottest weather. I first saw those numbers recommended by John Deakin. He has since modified that to just use whatever your sea level EGT at takeoff power for climb...which is okay for certified planes, but you don't have manufacturer's baseline recommendations for OBAM aircraft. While temps will vary between cylinders depending on probe location and orientation, if you keep the hottest EGT below 1300 and generally closer to 1250, it will be very safe on a normally aspirated engine which will normally peak in the high 1400s to low 1500s. As long as the probes are within about 4" of the exhaust flange the values will be very much in that ballpark. I use the recommended (by GAMI) fast response EGT probes rather than EIs standard slow response probes. They cost about $10 more each. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > I'd like to remind y'all that talking EGT numbers really isn't relevant > between aircraft due to differences in installation of the probes. Distance > from the exhaust flange and even the > placement on the circumference of the exhaust pipe will change the > EGT value. What would be relevant is the difference from peak, and ROP or > LOP, much like the GAMI quote from Jesse. > Linn > > Jesse Saint wrote: >> >> <jesse@saintaviation.com> >> >> I agree that you don't want your EGT"s too high on takeoff. Within >> 200 degrees rich of peak is the danger zone as described by Gami. I >> don't think I'd want to see 1300 on takeoff. I'd rather not see over >> 1250, I think. Rob, I don't pay that much attention to the actual >> fuel flow, but I know I've seen anywhere from 24-26gph (some change >> obviously caused by the boost pump). What is your EGT on takeoff? >> That MAP does seem a little bit low. What is your elevation? I >> usually see in the 29"+ range. If you're only making 27.9", then I >> would expect a lower fuel flow. >> >> do not archive >> >> Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: >> 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 >> >> On Nov 24, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I don't know what hood high EGTs means. Fuel flow should be such >>> that takeoff EGT is between 1200 and 1300 degrees. That should give >>> you 200 degrees rich of sea level peak EGT. Anything over 1300 >>> calls for more fuel flow, less than 1200, less fuel flow. >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Are you getting full rpm, MP and hood high EGT's? Fuel flow is >>>> secondary to these indicators. grumpy N184JM do not archive >>>> >>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:00 PM, RobHickman@aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> I am in the middle of injector tuning on my RV-10 and my neighbor >>>> is convinced that I do not have enough fuel flow on takeoff. >>>> >>>> At sea level I am getting: >>>> >>>> RPM 2700 MAN 27.9" >>>> >>>> 24.2 GPH >>>> >>>> Rob Hickman N402RH RV-10 >>>> >>>> ==================================== lectric.com >>>> m">www.buildersbooks.com ebuilthelp.com w.matronics.com/contribution >>>> =================================== >>>> tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>> ==================================== nics.com >>>> =================================== >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 06:42:01 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
    Subject: Re: windows & fiberglass
    One of the big reasons to glass over the joint is to keep the paint from cracking there. You're going to have a somewhat irregular space between the plexi and the fiberglass. Most materials that you try to fill it with will expand and contract at different rates than the plexi and fiberglass and the paint will crack in that spot. Glassing over that joint will keep that from happening, though it will make for a much messier event should you ever have to replace the plexi. Jeff Carpenter 40304 Bonding with Lord Adhesive On Nov 24, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: > Hi, Dave... sounds like you and I are at about the same point. I'd > read on here that Sikaflex wasn't a good choice because it requires > a deep "bed" between the fiberglass and plexi, which the RV-10 > design doesn't allow for, but I think some have used it anyway. > Some people glass over the joint to reduce the chances of cracking > later, but it shouldn't be necessary to hide the adhesive, since > that portion of the plexi will be painted. > > I need to do my windows sometime in the next month and am still > undecided on what to use. I like some of what I've heard about the > FE6026, but it sounds like it's not as strong as the Weld-on. I'll > probably go with the weld-on if nothing changes between now and the > time I need to do it. > > -Rob > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:36 PM, rvdave <davidbf@centurytel.net> > wrote: > > Am at the point of doors, windows, and getting ready to attach plex > to fiberglass. I'm considering using sikaflex, West Marine has the > sikaflex291, is this the one others are using, or is there another? > Also, is it common practice to glass over the window edge to cover > the flange/plex bonding point so the adhesive can't be seen through > the window? > > -------- > Dave Ford > RV6 flying > RV10 building > Cadillac, MI > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274728#274728 > ber is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on > -= * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com > omebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com > http:/r generous support! > nics List Features Navigator to browse > s.com/Navigator?RV10-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ============= > > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 "Finishing" Kit > Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) > http://kochman.net/N819K > >


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    Time: 07:03:01 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow
    Concur. I flew a turbo normalized Cardinal RG using an IO360. The recommended leaning procedures were by TIT EGT. Fuel flows in the injection system were set higher than normally aspirated but EGTs were the leaning byword. Since MP was limited to 28.5 showing on the gauges (even though it was slightly higher in the system) the procedure was use 1200-1300s as a range for takeoff and climb regardless of altitude. Target was 1400 for cruise, although 1650 was manufacturer red line; engineering limit was beyond that. For the 10 I use 1250 as a takeoff target about 1400 as a cruise target. The only time EGTs go above 1420 is during the LOP process( less than a minute). Once LOP is achieved, EGTS drop o the 1350-1400 range and CHTs drop to the 280-320 range. Fuel flows drop to 9 gph and TAS is 150ktas. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow I agree with you in general, however, full power takeoff from sea level is a consistent benchmark. With standard conditions a rule of thumb that is a bit rich of what is needed is 1 gph per 10 hp. As for EGT, I use UBG-16 on my 200hp Mooney, with the probes at the recommended 1.5" from the exhaust flange. I find that 1300 as an upper limit, with 1250 as a target works very well, keeps my CHT in the low 300s in all but the hottest weather. I first saw those numbers recommended by John Deakin. He has since modified that to just use whatever your sea level EGT at takeoff power for climb...which is okay for certified planes, but you don't have manufacturer's baseline recommendations for OBAM aircraft. While temps will vary between cylinders depending on probe location and orientation, if you keep the hottest EGT below 1300 and generally closer to 1250, it will be very safe on a normally aspirated engine which will normally peak in the high 1400s to low 1500s. As long as the probes are within about 4" of the exhaust flange the values will be very much in that ballpark. I use the recommended (by GAMI) fast response EGT probes rather than EIs standard slow response probes. They cost about $10 more each. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote: > --> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> > > I'd like to remind y'all that talking EGT numbers really isn't > relevant between aircraft due to differences in installation of the > probes. Distance from the exhaust flange and even the placement on the > circumference of the exhaust pipe will change the EGT value. What > would be relevant is the difference from peak, and ROP or LOP, much > like the GAMI quote from Jesse. > Linn > > Jesse Saint wrote: >> >> <jesse@saintaviation.com> >> >> I agree that you don't want your EGT"s too high on takeoff. Within >> 200 degrees rich of peak is the danger zone as described by Gami. I >> don't think I'd want to see 1300 on takeoff. I'd rather not see over >> 1250, I think. Rob, I don't pay that much attention to the actual >> fuel flow, but I know I've seen anywhere from 24-26gph (some change >> obviously caused by the boost pump). What is your EGT on takeoff? >> That MAP does seem a little bit low. What is your elevation? I >> usually see in the 29"+ range. If you're only making 27.9", then I >> would expect a lower fuel flow. >> >> do not archive >> >> Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: >> 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 >> >> On Nov 24, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I don't know what hood high EGTs means. Fuel flow should be such >>> that takeoff EGT is between 1200 and 1300 degrees. That should give >>> you 200 degrees rich of sea level peak EGT. Anything over 1300 calls >>> for more fuel flow, less than 1200, less fuel flow. >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Are you getting full rpm, MP and hood high EGT's? Fuel flow is >>>> secondary to these indicators. grumpy N184JM do not archive >>>> >>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:00 PM, RobHickman@aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> I am in the middle of injector tuning on my RV-10 and my neighbor >>>> is convinced that I do not have enough fuel flow on takeoff. >>>> >>>> At sea level I am getting: >>>> >>>> RPM 2700 MAN 27.9" >>>> >>>> 24.2 GPH >>>> >>>> Rob Hickman N402RH RV-10 >>>> >>>> ==================================== lectric.com >>>> m">www.buildersbooks.com ebuilthelp.com >>>> w.matronics.com/contribution =================================== >>>> tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>> ==================================== nics.com >>>> =================================== >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 08:22:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    For leaning and tuning the engine to know what size of injector is needed, the actual value isn't relevant, but rather the point at which it peaks. The numbers are still useful for the current discussion. There will be some variation based on location, age of sensor, etc., but the numbers for takeoff are still relevant. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Nov 25, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Linn Walters wrote: > > I'd like to remind y'all that talking EGT numbers really isn't relevant > between aircraft due to differences in installation of the probes. Distance from the exhaust flange and even the > placement on the circumference of the exhaust pipe will change the > EGT value. What would be relevant is the difference from peak, and ROP or LOP, much like the GAMI quote from Jesse. > Linn


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    Time: 09:12:14 AM PST US
    From: RobHickman@aol.com
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow
    Last flight I got the following EGT's on takeoff 1305 1322 1289 1275 1277 1284 Is it possible to slightly increase the fuel flow on a RSA injector body without having to sent it in? Rob Hickman N402RH RV-10 In a message dated 11/24/2009 8:58:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, apilot2@gmail.com writes: --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> I don't know what hood high EGTs means. Fuel flow should be such that takeoff EGT is between 1200 and 1300 degrees. That should give you 200 degrees rich of sea level peak EGT. Anything over 1300 calls for more fuel flow, less than 1200, less fuel flow. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote: > Are you getting full rpm, MP and hood high EGT's? > Fuel flow is secondary to these indicators. > grumpy > N184JM > do not archive > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:00 PM, RobHickman@aol.com wrote: > > I am in the middle of injector tuning on my RV-10 and my neighbor is > convinced that I do not have enough fuel flow on takeoff. > > At sea level I am getting: > > RPM 2700 > MAN 27.9" > > 24.2 GPH > > Rob Hickman > N402RH RV-10 > > =================================== > lectric.com > m">www.buildersbooks.com > ebuilthelp.com > w.matronics.com/contribution > =================================== > tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > =================================== > nics.com > =================================== > > > > >


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    Time: 09:52:10 AM PST US
    From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Main Gear Shimmy - While Braking
    I see that on mine also Rt In=2C Lf Out. Problem is not necessarily correct ed by changing the hole location as it may be the bend in the gear leg itse lf. > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Main Gear Shimmy - While Braking > From: sean@braunandco.com > Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 03:06:28 +0000 > > > This is why I think a lot of the gear legs are misaligned. My right gear was toed in and my left was toed out until I drilled the left gear to match the right at 1.10 degrees in. > ------Original Message------ > From: jkreidler > Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > ReplyTo: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Nov 24=2C 2009 7:19 PM > Subject: RV10-List: Main Gear Shimmy - While Braking > com> > > We have been working on solving a main gear shimmy while braking. First j ust to clarify our symptoms=2C after landing=2C after the nose wheel comes down=2C as soon as we went to the brakes we got a shimmy. If we did not use the brakes we did not have a shimmy. We visually confirmed it was main gea r shimmy. We also had a scalloped wear patter starting on our mains (80 hou rs TT). > > I may be stating something very obvious=2C but the fix was very simple=2C we had to re-torque our axle nuts. Tightened up the nuts=2C and the shimmy is gone. > > Just passing along an experience..... > > -------- > Jason Kreidler > 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls=2C WI > Tony Kolar=2C Kyle Hokel=2C Wayne Elser=2C Jason Kreidler > N44YH - Flying - #40617 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274711#274711 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 09:55:15 AM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow
    Rob, it would be nice to see how those numbers compare to the PEAK and LOP numbers.- Are the #1 and #2 cylinders still the highest?- What is the o rder of the cylinders as they relate to reaching peak.... in gph?- What w ere the dimensions for the temp probe install.- Is it possible that #1 an d/or #2 were slightly closer to the cylinder heads? Don McDonald --- On Wed, 11/25/09, RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> wrote: From: RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow Last flight I got the following EGT's on takeoff - 1305 1322 1289 1275 1277 1284 - Is it possible to slightly increase the fuel flow on a RSA injector body wi thout having to sent it in? - Rob Hickman N402RH- RV-10 - - - - - In a message dated 11/24/2009 8:58:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, apilot2@g mail.com writes: I don't know what hood high EGTs means. Fuel flow should be such that takeoff EGT is between 1200 and 1300 degrees. That should give you 200 degrees rich of sea level peak EGT. Anything over 1300 calls for more fuel flow, less than 1200, less fuel flow. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote: > Are you getting full rpm, MP and hood high EGT's? > Fuel flow is secondary to these indicators. > grumpy > N184JM > do not archive > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:00 PM, RobHickman@aol.com wrote: > > I am in the middle of injector-tuning on my RV-10 and my neighbor is > convinced that I do not have enough fuel flow on takeoff. > > At sea level I am getting: > > RPM----2700 > MAN----27.9" > > 24.2 GPH > > Rob Hickman > N402RH RV-10 > > ======================== =========== > lectric.com > m">www.buildersbooks.com > ebuilthelp.com > w.matronics.com/contribution > ======================== =========== > tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ======================== =========== > nics.com > ======================== =========== > > > ======================== ========================nbs p; - - - -- (And Get Some AWESOME FREE to find Gifts tric re b k you for p; - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List = ======================= the t ies Day ====================== = - - - - - -- - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS ======= ================= =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 09:57:02 AM PST US
    From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: windows & fiberglass
    SIkaflex states that it needs a critical thickness to allow the material to not only adhere=2C but more importantly stretch as the plexi expands and c ontracts with thermal changes. The idea with SIkaflex it a floating bed. It is an excellent material but it really is not designed for this applicatio n. A builder could make it work if one adds more fiberglass to the inside of t he door area where the windows adhere. Then route out the outside of this j oggle so the depth of the channel is deeper allowing the Sikafles to be the correct critical thickness. Correct use would also mean allowing enough w indow gap around the perimeter so the window can expand without hitting the fiberglass door edge. Sikaflex is paintable but the paint will crack under the expansions and con traction of the material in the gap. So it you us sikaflex correctly=2C you would also need to fabricate a slip joint with the fiberglass which bonds to the door and covers this gap. The fiberglass would bond to the fiberglas s door=2C but not bond to the plexi=2C thus allowing the plexi to move unde r the fiberglass. With that said=2C the fiberglass would need to be pretty thick for obvious reason in addition it would need to withstand the bulging action of the Sikaflex in the gap as the plexi expands. For those who do not appreciate how much plexi expands with thermal changes =2C trust me. Basically=2C sikaflex can be used correctly on the 10 but a lot of modifica tion would need to be done to use it. If one does not do this=2C then it really is not being used correctly and l ong term success is an unknown The above method would be the best way to put in the windows instead of cap turing the plexi in the fiberglass and distributing the expansion into the actual door...with that said=2C I used Weldon and hope that I do not allow the plane to heat up so much that my excellent fitting doors do not close b ecause the door is warped when the plexi is hot/ or cold. John Subject: Re: RV10-List: windows & fiberglass From: rv10rob@gmail.com Hi=2C Dave... sounds like you and I are at about the same point. I'd read on here that Sikaflex wasn't a good choice because it requires a deep "bed" between the fiberglass and plexi=2C which the RV-10 design doesn't allow f or=2C but I think some have used it anyway. Some people glass over the joi nt to reduce the chances of cracking later=2C but it shouldn't be necessary to hide the adhesive=2C since that portion of the plexi will be painted. I need to do my windows sometime in the next month and am still undecided o n what to use. I like some of what I've heard about the FE6026=2C but it s ounds like it's not as strong as the Weld-on. I'll probably go with the we ld-on if nothing changes between now and the time I need to do it. -Rob On Tue=2C Nov 24=2C 2009 at 9:36 PM=2C rvdave <davidbf@centurytel.net> wrot e: Am at the point of doors=2C windows=2C and getting ready to attach plex to fiberglass. I'm considering using sikaflex=2C West Marine has the sikaflex 291=2C is this the one others are using=2C or is there another? Also=2C is it common practice to glass over the window edge to cover the flange/plex bonding point so the adhesive can't be seen through the window? -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac=2C MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274728#274728 ber is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on -= * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com omebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com http:/r generous support! nics List Features Navigator to browse s.com/Navigator?RV10-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?RV10-List ronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com ============= -- Rob Kochman RV-10 "Finishing" Kit Woodinville=2C WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K


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    Time: 10:52:34 AM PST US
    From: "John Cumins" <jcumins@jcis.net>
    Subject: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow
    Rob The fuel injection servo will manage the fuel flow based in what is set on the flow bench. Your egt for take off are perfect and you are getting about the right ff for take off. I agree with the 1 gph per 10 hp. This is a perfect ball park. The servo takes into consideration, mp, air density, temperature and everything else it might need. I truly do not think you have any issues. I would also recommend that you use 1300 for climb egt lean as you climb to maintain 1300 you will keep that engine very happy for a very long time. John G. Cumins President JC'S Interactive Systems 2499 B1 Martin Rd Fairfield Ca 94533 707-425-7100 707-425-7576 Fax Your Total Technology Solution Provider From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RobHickman@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow Last flight I got the following EGT's on takeoff 1305 1322 1289 1275 1277 1284 Is it possible to slightly increase the fuel flow on a RSA injector body without having to sent it in? Rob Hickman N402RH RV-10 In a message dated 11/24/2009 8:58:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, apilot2@gmail.com writes: I don't know what hood high EGTs means. Fuel flow should be such that takeoff EGT is between 1200 and 1300 degrees. That should give you 200 degrees rich of sea level peak EGT. Anything over 1300 calls for more fuel flow, less than 1200, less fuel flow. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote: > Are you getting full rpm, MP and hood high EGT's? > Fuel flow is secondary to these indicators. > grumpy > N184JM > do not archive > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:00 PM, RobHickman@aol.com wrote: > > I am in the middle of injector tuning on my RV-10 and my neighbor is > convinced that I do not have enough fuel flow on takeoff. > > At sea level I am getting: > > RPM 2700 > MAN 27.9" > > 24.2 GPH > > Rob Hickman > N402RH RV-10 > > =================================== > lectric.com > m">www.buildersbooks.com > ebuilthelp.com > w.matronics.com/contribution > =================================== > tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > =================================== > nics.com > =================================== > > > ================================================nbsp; (And Get Some AWESOME FREE to find Gifts tric re b k you for p; -Matt Dralle, List ======================== the ties Day ================================================ - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS =================================================


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    Time: 10:55:24 AM PST US
    From: RobHickman@aol.com
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow
    Test #1 2500 RPM 22" MP Fuel Flow EGT 1 EGT 2 EGT 3 EGT 4 EGT 5 EGT 6 13.0 1417 1420 1392 1374 1377 1397 12.8 1426 1422 1401 1377 1385 1405 12.6 1433 1422 1411 1386 1395 1412 12.4 1430 1410 1420 1397 1401 1419 12.3 1428 1403 1431 1405 1406 1414 12.2 1424 1396 1429 1408 1409 1413 12.1 1414 1389 1430 1413 1407 1409 11.9 1407 1379 1427 1417 1402 1402 11.8 1400 1374 1422 1420 1398 1397 11.5 1375 1345 1401 1420 1380 1374 11.3 1368 1340 1393 1417 1370 1366 11.2 1362 1332 1388 1410 1361 1358 Test #2 2500 RPM 22" MP Fuel Flow EGT 1 EGT 2 EGT 3 EGT 4 EGT 5 EGT 6 12.9 1427 1398 1400 1380 1382 1402 12.8 1432 1423 1407 1387 1388 1406 12.6 1434 1421 1419 1395 1396 1414 12.4 1437 1418 1422 1397 1402 1415 12.3 1424 1405 1427 1407 1402 1414 12.2 1414 1391 1429 1412 1406 1409 11.9 1403 1377 1427 1416 1398 1400 11.8 1396 1372 1424 1420 1393 1394 11.7 1390 1360 1416 1424 1391 1390 11.5 1380 1353 1405 1423 1380 1375 11.4 1373 1346 1396 1419 1371 1368 11.2 1361 1335 1384 1413 1360 1360 The plane currently has .028 injectors, I have the following injectors on order Cylinder #4 .027 Cylinder #3 & #5 .0275 Rob Hickman N402RH RV-10 In a message dated 11/25/2009 9:57:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, building_partner@yahoo.com writes: Rob, it would be nice to see how those numbers compare to the PEAK and LOP numbers. Are the #1 and #2 cylinders still the highest? What is the order of the cylinders as they relate to reaching peak.... in gph? What were the dimensions for the temp probe install. Is it possible that #1 and/or #2 were slightly closer to the cylinder heads? Don McDonald --- On Wed, 11/25/09, RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> wrote: From: RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow Last flight I got the following EGT's on takeoff 1305 1322 1289 1275 1277 1284 Is it possible to slightly increase the fuel flow on a RSA injector body without having to sent it in? Rob Hickman N402RH RV-10 In a message dated 11/24/2009 8:58:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, apilot2@gmail.com writes: I don't know what hood high EGTs means. Fuel flow should be such that takeoff EGT is between 1200 and 1300 degrees. That should give you 200 degrees rich of sea level peak EGT. Anything over 1300 calls for more fuel flow, less than 1200, less fuel flow. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote: > Are you getting full rpm, MP and hood high EGT's? > Fuel flow is secondary to these indicators. > grumpy > N184JM > do not archive > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:00 PM, RobHickman@aol.com wrote: > > I am in the middle of injector tuning on my RV-10 and my neighbor is > convinced that I do not have enough fuel flow on takeoff. > > At sea level I am getting: > > RPM 2700 > MAN 27.9" > > 24.2 GPH > > Rob Hickman > N402RH RV-10 > > =================================== > lectric.com > m">www.buildersbooks.com > ebuilthelp.com > w.matronics.com/contribution > =================================== > tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > nics.com > =================================== > > > =======================nbsp; (And Get Some AWESOME FREE to find Gifts tric re b k you for p; -Matt Dralle, List ======================== the ties Day ======================= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS ======================== _blank rel=nofollow>www.aeroelectric.com /" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.buildersbooks.com =_blank rel=nofollow>www.homebuilthelp.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution get=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com (http://www.aeroelectric.com/) (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List)


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    Time: 11:37:57 AM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow
    That conclusion looks good. In talking to Kyle at Airflow Performance, the most recent test I have done I started with .026" restrictors and am going down from there. He says that it better for lower fuel flows (under 10gph). I've done 2 engines starting with .028" and have been very happy with the results. You'll be very happy with your results after you're finished, although don't be surprised if you have to do another round. I've done 2 rounds of changes on one engine and 3 on the other that I finished testing to get to where everything was within .4 gph. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Nov 25, 2009, at 1:34 PM, RobHickman@aol.com wrote: > Test #1 2500 RPM 22" MP > Fuel Flow EGT 1 EGT 2 EGT 3 EGT 4 EGT 5 EGT 6 > 13.0 1417 1420 1392 1374 1377 1397 > 12.8 1426 1422 1401 1377 1385 1405 > 12.6 1433 1422 1411 1386 1395 1412 > 12.4 1430 1410 1420 1397 1401 1419 > 12.3 1428 1403 1431 1405 1406 1414 > 12.2 1424 1396 1429 1408 1409 1413 > 12.1 1414 1389 1430 1413 1407 1409 > 11.9 1407 1379 1427 1417 1402 1402 > 11.8 1400 1374 1422 1420 1398 1397 > 11.5 1375 1345 1401 1420 1380 1374 > 11.3 1368 1340 1393 1417 1370 1366 > 11.2 1362 1332 1388 1410 1361 1358 > Test #2 2500 RPM 22" MP > Fuel Flow EGT 1 EGT 2 EGT 3 EGT 4 EGT 5 EGT 6 > 12.9 1427 1398 1400 1380 1382 1402 > 12.8 1432 1423 1407 1387 1388 1406 > 12.6 1434 1421 1419 1395 1396 1414 > 12.4 1437 1418 1422 1397 1402 1415 > 12.3 1424 1405 1427 1407 1402 1414 > 12.2 1414 1391 1429 1412 1406 1409 > 11.9 1403 1377 1427 1416 1398 1400 > 11.8 1396 1372 1424 1420 1393 1394 > 11.7 1390 1360 1416 1424 1391 1390 > 11.5 1380 1353 1405 1423 1380 1375 > 11.4 1373 1346 1396 1419 1371 1368 > 11.2 1361 1335 1384 1413 1360 1360 > > The plane currently has .028 injectors, I have the following injectors on order > > Cylinder #4 .027 > Cylinder #3 & #5 .0275 > > Rob Hickman > N402RH RV-10 > > In a message dated 11/25/2009 9:57:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, building_partner@yahoo.com writes: > Rob, it would be nice to see how those numbers compare to the PEAK and LOP numbers. Are the #1 and #2 cylinders still the highest? What is the order of the cylinders as they relate to reaching peak.... in gph? What were the dimensions for the temp probe install. Is it possible that #1 and/or #2 were slightly closer to the cylinder heads? > Don McDonald > > --- On Wed, 11/25/09, RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> wrote: > > From: RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 9:10 AM > > Last flight I got the following EGT's on takeoff > > 1305 1322 1289 1275 1277 1284 > > Is it possible to slightly increase the fuel flow on a RSA injector body without having to sent it in? > > Rob Hickman > N402RH RV-10 > > > > > > In a message dated 11/24/2009 8:58:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, apilot2@gmail.com writes: > > I don't know what hood high EGTs means. Fuel flow should be such that > takeoff EGT is between 1200 and 1300 degrees. That should give you 200 > degrees rich of sea level peak EGT. Anything over 1300 calls for more > fuel flow, less than 1200, less fuel flow. > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote: > > Are you getting full rpm, MP and hood high EGT's? > > Fuel flow is secondary to these indicators. > > grumpy > > N184JM > > do not archive > > > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:00 PM, RobHickman@aol.com wrote: > > > > I am in the middle of injector tuning on my RV-10 and my neighbor is > > convinced that I do not have enough fuel flow on takeoff. > > > > At sea level I am getting: > > > > RPM 2700 > > MAN 27.9" > > > > 24.2 GPH > > > > Rob Hickman > > N402RH RV-10 > > > > ======================== =========== > > lectric.com > > m">www.buildersbooks.com > > ebuilthelp.com > > w.matronics.com/contribution > > ======================== =========== > > tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > ========== > > nics.com > > ======================== =========== > > > > > > =======================n bsp; (And Get Some AWESOME FREE to find Gifts tric re b k you for p; -Matt Dralle, List ========== ============== the ties Day ======================= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS ============== > > > > > _blank rel=nofollow>www.aeroelectric.com > /" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.buildersbooks.com > =_blank rel=nofollow>www.homebuilthelp.com > blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > get=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com > > > > > ======================== =========== > ttp://www.aeroelectric.com/">www.aeroelectric.com > m/ href="http://www.buildersbooks.com/">www.buildersbooks.com > "http://www.homebuilthelp.com/">www.homebuilthelp.com > tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ======================== =========== > f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?RV10-List > ======================== =========== > ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com > ======================== =========== > > > >


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    Time: 01:20:26 PM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow
    I believe your takeoff EGTs will come in line when you get the mixtures balanced. You are close enough that I doubt you need to do anything with the servo. In the meantime, using the boost pump until the first power reduction may help. RobHickman@aol.com wrote: > Test #1 2500 RPM 22" MP > Fuel Flow EGT 1 EGT 2 EGT 3 EGT 4 EGT 5 EGT 6 > 13.0 1417 1420 1392 1374 1377 1397 > 12.8 1426 1422 1401 1377 1385 1405 > 12.6 1433 1422 1411 1386 1395 1412 > 12.4 1430 1410 1420 1397 1401 1419 > 12.3 1428 1403 1431 1405 1406 1414 > 12.2 1424 1396 1429 1408 1409 1413 > 12.1 1414 1389 1430 1413 1407 1409 > 11.9 1407 1379 1427 1417 1402 1402 > 11.8 1400 1374 1422 1420 1398 1397 > 11.5 1375 1345 1401 1420 1380 1374 > 11.3 1368 1340 1393 1417 1370 1366 > 11.2 1362 1332 1388 1410 1361 1358 >


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    Time: 03:10:17 PM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow
    Maybe the issue with #4 is it's position on the spider.... my-#4 was the same way... went to a .027, and it wasn't quite small enough, so ended up w ith a .0265... Now all really close. Rob, I had 25.6 gph on takeoff today. Don McDonald --- On Wed, 11/25/09, RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> wrote: From: RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow Test #1 2500 RPM 22" MP Fuel Flow EGT 1 EGT 2 EGT 3 EGT 4 EGT 5 EGT 6 13.0 1417 1420 1392 1374 1377 1397 12.8 1426 1422 1401 1377 1385 1405 12.6 1433 1422 1411 1386 1395 1412 12.4 1430 1410 1420 1397 1401 1419 12.3 1428 1403 1431 1405 1406 1414 12.2 1424 1396 1429 1408 1409 1413 12.1 1414 1389 1430 1413 1407 1409 11.9 1407 1379 1427 1417 1402 1402 11.8 1400 1374 1422 1420 1398 1397 11.5 1375 1345 1401 1420 1380 1374 11.3 1368 1340 1393 1417 1370 1366 11.2 1362 1332 1388 1410 1361 1358 Test #2 2500 RPM 22" MP Fuel Flow EGT 1 EGT 2 EGT 3 EGT 4 EGT 5 EGT 6 12.9 1427 1398 1400 1380 1382 1402 12.8 1432 1423 1407 1387 1388 1406 12.6 1434 1421 1419 1395 1396 1414 12.4 1437 1418 1422 1397 1402 1415 12.3 1424 1405 1427 1407 1402 1414 12.2 1414 1391 1429 1412 1406 1409 11.9 1403 1377 1427 1416 1398 1400 11.8 1396 1372 1424 1420 1393 1394 11.7 1390 1360 1416 1424 1391 1390 11.5 1380 1353 1405 1423 1380 1375 11.4 1373 1346 1396 1419 1371 1368 11.2 1361 1335 1384 1413 1360 1360 - The plane currently-has .028 injectors,-- -I have the following inj ectors on order - Cylinder #4-------- ------------- -- .027 Cylinder #3 & #5-------------- .0275 - Rob Hickman N402RH- RV-10 - In a message dated 11/25/2009 9:57:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, building_ partner@yahoo.com writes: Rob, it would be nice to see how those numbers compare to the PEAK and LOP numbers.- Are the #1 and #2 cylinders still the highest?- What is the o rder of the cylinders as they relate to reaching peak.... in gph?- What w ere the dimensions for the temp probe install.- Is it possible that #1 an d/or #2 were slightly closer to the cylinder heads? Don McDonald --- On Wed, 11/25/09, RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> wrote: From: RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Takeoff Fuel Flow Last flight I got the following EGT's on takeoff - 1305 1322 1289 1275 1277 1284 - Is it possible to slightly increase the fuel flow on a RSA injector body wi thout having to sent it in? - Rob Hickman N402RH- RV-10 - - - - - In a message dated 11/24/2009 8:58:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, apilot2@g mail.com writes: I don't know what hood high EGTs means. Fuel flow should be such that takeoff EGT is between 1200 and 1300 degrees. That should give you 200 degrees rich of sea level peak EGT. Anything over 1300 calls for more fuel flow, less than 1200, less fuel flow. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote: > Are you getting full rpm, MP and hood high EGT's? > Fuel flow is secondary to these indicators. > grumpy > N184JM > do not archive > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:00 PM, RobHickman@aol.com wrote: > > I am in the middle of injector-tuning on my RV-10 and my neighbor is > convinced that I do not have enough fuel flow on takeoff. > > At sea level I am getting: > > RPM----2700 > MAN----27.9" > > 24.2 GPH > > Rob Hickman > N402RH RV-10 > > ======================== =========== > lectric.com > m">www.buildersbooks.com > ebuilthelp.com > w.matronics.com/contribution > ======================== =========== > tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > nics.com > ======================== =========== > > > =======================nbsp ; - - - -- (And Get Some AWESOME FREE to find Gifts tric re b k y ou for p; - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List == ====================== the ties Day ======================= - - - - - -- - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS ======== ================ _blank rel=nofollow>www.aeroelectric.com /" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.buildersbooks.com =_blank rel=nofollow>www.homebuilthelp.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution get=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com ttp://www.aeroelectric.com/">www.aeroelectric.com m/ href="http://www.buildersbooks.com/">www.buildersbooks.com "http://www.homebuilthelp.com/">www.homebuilthelp.com tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 03:58:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Garmin G900X Update / G3X Update
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    G900X owners I spoke with Tim at Garmin today and he tells me the new system software will probably be released before the end of the year. When we last spoke he mentioned that data logging would be available on the most recent update but it did not make the cut so there is a good possibility it will be on this update. That would be nice. To those contemplating a G3X I asked about Synthetic Vision (SVT) option and he said Garmin has not announced anything HOWEVER... Tim did mention that Garmin understands all the competition has synthetic vision soooooooooooo wink, wink... Happy Thanksgiving to all, Robin


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    Time: 05:22:10 PM PST US
    From: "Thane States" <thane2@comporium.net>
    Subject: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal
    Just wanted to see if anyone has had a similar problem?? I have a G-430 /W and after 6 weeks of down time to complete Conditional Inspection, I am unable to get the unit to aquire a signal and thus position. It has done this in the past maybe 5-6 times but always came up within 5 minutes or so. Today I was unable to get to work by powering the unit down. Any ideas or input would be great. Thane States N321BY 80 hrs.


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    Time: 05:40:24 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal
    You may need to ensure the time is correct and give it a rough idea of where it is located. Also, make sure it is outside and can 'see' the satellites (not trying to be a smart @ss) - I used an extension cable on my GPS antenna to put it outside the hangar when I couldn't roll my plane around. Also, part of my oil-change requires me to remove my GPS antenna (it's mounted under the cowl and is in the way of the wrench to loosen the fliter) - so I test mine after each oil change too...just some thoughts Before I swapped out my GX60 for a GNC420W, the GX60 needed a little help in figuring out where it was. Something to try - haven't had this problem with the new 420W.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Thane States To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal Just wanted to see if anyone has had a similar problem?? I have a G-430 /W and after 6 weeks of down time to complete Conditional Inspection, I am unable to get the unit to aquire a signal and thus position. It has done this in the past maybe 5-6 times but always came up within 5 minutes or so. Today I was unable to get to work by powering the unit down. Any ideas or input would be great. Thane States N321BY 80 hrs. href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 05:47:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal
    From: "Jim" <jim@CombsFive.Com>
    Couple of things to check: - Make sure you are not in a metal hanger (Visible Sky). Sounds silly, but the unit must be able to see the sky. - Check the cable to the GPS antenna. It is an active antenna and gets DC power from the 430W. Make sure the connections are good and no stray shield wire strands are creating shorts. - Make sure antenna location is optimum. On the top of the instrument panel, top of the fuselage or way out under the cowling away from the firewall. Jim C (N312F - Flying 140 hours - almost ready to do first condition inspection) -------------------------------------------------- Just wanted to see if anyone has had a similar problem?? I have a G-430 /W and after 6 weeks of down time to complete Conditional Inspection, I am unable to get the unit to aquire a signal and thus position. It has done this in the past maybe 5-6 times but always came up within 5 minutes or so. Today I was unable to get to work by powering the unit down. Any ideas or input would be great. Thane States N321BY 80 hrs.


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    Time: 06:27:47 PM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal
    I've had this problem before, after being down for some period of time. The solution for me was to let the GPS search for up to 20-30 minutes. I'm not a rocket scientist, but the position of the satellites has likely changed since you went down for inspection, and when I talked to the GPS gurus' @ Freeflight they said it could easily take 20 + minutes particularly if the plane was moved from it's last 'on' position. Deems Davis N519PJ www.deemsrv10.com Thane States wrote: > Just wanted to see if anyone has had a similar problem?? > I have a G-430 /W and after 6 weeks of down time to complete > Conditional Inspection, I am unable to get the unit to aquire a signal > and thus position. It has done this in the past maybe 5-6 times but > always came up within 5 minutes or so. > Today I was unable to get to work by powering the unit down. > Any ideas or input would be great. > Thane States > N321BY > 80 hrs. > > > * > > href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com > href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com > href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > * > > * > > > *


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    Time: 07:14:41 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Voyager sale Fri only
    Just got the latest newsletter and they claim the lowest prices EVER on lifetime chart subscriptions and some other things for Friday only. Tim


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    Time: 07:15:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Main Gear Shimmy - While Braking
    From: "Strasnuts" <sean@braunandco.com>
    jkreidler, Sorry about the reply, I received it on my phone and didn't see your fix from the weird format on my phone. I just thought you had a shimmy and you didn't know what was wrong. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274833#274833


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    Time: 07:34:09 PM PST US
    From: Andrew Stryker <ajs_pvt_1@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Main Gear Shimmy - While Braking
    Not obvious so some of the lesser experienced here (i.e. me). Thanks for the info! Andrew Stryker Building - Empennage jkreidler wrote: > > We have been working on solving a main gear shimmy while braking. First just to clarify our symptoms, after landing, after the nose wheel comes down, as soon as we went to the brakes we got a shimmy. If we did not use the brakes we did not have a shimmy. We visually confirmed it was main gear shimmy. We also had a scalloped wear patter starting on our mains (80 hours TT). > > I may be stating something very obvious, but the fix was very simple, we had to re-torque our axle nuts. Tightened up the nuts, and the shimmy is gone. > > Just passing along an experience..... > > -------- > Jason Kreidler > 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI > Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler > N44YH - Flying - #40617 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274711#274711 > > >


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    Time: 07:36:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Section 31 - Upper Fwd fuse
    From: "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
    I'm completing 31-2 step #2 and there is a missing measurement on their fabrication drawing. If you look at the drawing, they give you the overall length of the F-1044B angle and they give you all kinds of detail about the right side. However, on the left side they don't give you any information regarding the amount of material that needs to be removed from the angle aluminum. How much material needs to be removed so we get the appropriate length on the tab? Thanks, Phil


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    Time: 08:04:18 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: Section 31 - Upper Fwd fuse
    The primary reason for removing material is to facilitate the bend. I just removed a little more than the width of the F-1001B Upper Angle. Welcome to the fuselage plans. You have to read between the lines quite a bit more than in the previous plans. bob From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:34 PM Subject: RV10-List: Section 31 - Upper Fwd fuse I'm completing 31-2 step #2 and there is a missing measurement on their fabrication drawing. If you look at the drawing, they give you the overall length of the F-1044B angle and they give you all kinds of detail about the right side. However, on the left side they don't give you any information regarding the amount of material that needs to be removed from the angle aluminum. How much material needs to be removed so we get the appropriate length on the tab? Thanks, Phil


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    Time: 08:33:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Section 31 - Upper Fwd fuse
    From: "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
    Yeah, that's kinda what I'm thinking too. Just a little bit at a time and small adjustments until you get there. The real frustrating part is that these steps were obviously completed at the QB factory, but they never finished the job by riveting the parts into the fuselage. I guess they tossed them overboard somewhere in the Pacific ocean. So now I'm trying to bend angles and fabricate parts to match their pre-existing holes. I'll get started on it tomorrow when I'm not quite so frustrated. J Phil From: Bob Leffler [mailto:rv@thelefflers.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Section 31 - Upper Fwd fuse The primary reason for removing material is to facilitate the bend. I just removed a little more than the width of the F-1001B Upper Angle. Welcome to the fuselage plans. You have to read between the lines quite a bit more than in the previous plans. bob From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:34 PM Subject: RV10-List: Section 31 - Upper Fwd fuse I'm completing 31-2 step #2 and there is a missing measurement on their fabrication drawing. If you look at the drawing, they give you the overall length of the F-1044B angle and they give you all kinds of detail about the right side. However, on the left side they don't give you any information regarding the amount of material that needs to be removed from the angle aluminum. How much material needs to be removed so we get the appropriate length on the tab? Thanks, Phil www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com




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