---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/26/09: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:11 AM - What Are You Thankful For...? (Matt Dralle) 1. 07:21 AM - Happy Thanksgiving!! (ricksked@embarqmail.com) 2. 09:11 AM - Re: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal (Thane States) 3. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal (Deems Davis) 4. 11:45 AM - Re: windows & fiberglass (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 5. 02:10 PM - QB Fuel tank issue (Kelly McMullen) 6. 02:31 PM - Re: QB Fuel tank issue (John Trollinger) 7. 02:32 PM - Re: QB Fuel tank issue (John Trollinger) 8. 02:59 PM - Re: QB Fuel tank issue (Johnson) 9. 03:39 PM - Re: QB Fuel tank issue (Jesse Saint) 10. 05:09 PM - riveting the cabin top (Roxanne and Mike Lefever) 11. 05:28 PM - Re: riveting the cabin top (sean@braunandco.com) 12. 05:28 PM - Re: riveting the cabin top (egohr1) 13. 05:38 PM - Re: riveting the cabin top (Rob Kochman) 14. 05:38 PM - Re: riveting the cabin top (Perry, Phil) 15. 05:45 PM - Re: QB Fuel tank issue (Kelly McMullen) 16. 06:36 PM - Defective qb tank (Robert Brunkenhoefer) 17. 06:45 PM - Re: riveting the cabin top (Roxanne and Mike Lefever) 18. 07:57 PM - Re: QB Fuel tank issue (woxofswa) 19. 09:20 PM - Tools for starting on cabin top (woxofswa) 20. 09:23 PM - Re: windows & fiberglass (rvdave) 21. 10:13 PM - Re: QB Fuel tank issue (Don McDonald) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:11:35 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV10-List: What Are You Thankful For...? Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:51 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Happy Thanksgiving!! From: ricksked@embarqmail.com Happy Thanksgiving to everyone on the list and their families....Lets not forget all those deployed in the Military...many of them RV builders who are giving up this holiday with their loved ones so we can be with ours. Rick Sked N246RS Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:59 AM PST US From: "Thane States" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal Deems, thanks for that info, that may be what it needs. I was not able with the short flight's to be airborn for more than 10 minutes or so. I hope that is it. Thanks, Thane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deems Davis" Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:26 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal > > I've had this problem before, after being down for some period of time. > The solution for me was to let the GPS search for up to 20-30 minutes. I'm > not a rocket scientist, but the position of the satellites has likely > changed since you went down for inspection, and when I talked to the GPS > gurus' @ Freeflight they said it could easily take 20 + minutes > particularly if the plane was moved from it's last 'on' position. > > Deems Davis > N519PJ > www.deemsrv10.com > > Thane States wrote: >> Just wanted to see if anyone has had a similar problem?? >> I have a G-430 /W and after 6 weeks of down time to complete Conditional >> Inspection, I am unable to get the unit to aquire a signal and thus >> position. It has done this in the past maybe 5-6 times but always came >> up within 5 minutes or so. Today I was unable to get to work by powering >> the unit down. >> Any ideas or input would be great. >> Thane States >> N321BY >> 80 hrs. >> >> >> * >> >> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com >> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com >> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> >> * >> >> * >> >> >> * > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:51:57 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal Try dragging the plane out of the hangar, powering it up and let it 'search for 30 minutes. Thane States wrote: > > Deems, thanks for that info, that may be what it needs. I was not > able with the short flight's to be airborn for more than 10 minutes or > so. I hope that is it. > Thanks, > Thane > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deems Davis" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:26 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: G-430/W wont aquire gps signal > > >> >> I've had this problem before, after being down for some period of >> time. The solution for me was to let the GPS search for up to 20-30 >> minutes. I'm not a rocket scientist, but the position of the >> satellites has likely changed since you went down for inspection, >> and when I talked to the GPS gurus' @ Freeflight they said it could >> easily take 20 + minutes particularly if the plane was moved from >> it's last 'on' position. >> >> Deems Davis >> N519PJ >> www.deemsrv10.com >> >> Thane States wrote: >>> Just wanted to see if anyone has had a similar problem?? >>> I have a G-430 /W and after 6 weeks of down time to complete >>> Conditional Inspection, I am unable to get the unit to aquire a >>> signal and thus position. It has done this in the past maybe 5-6 >>> times but always came up within 5 minutes or so. Today I was unable >>> to get to work by powering the unit down. >>> Any ideas or input would be great. >>> Thane States >>> N321BY >>> 80 hrs. >>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com >>> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com >>> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com >>> >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> >>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>> >>> * >>> >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:45:03 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: windows & fiberglass I had a post a month or two back about my experiences using the Lord adhesive recommended by Geoff Combs. It worked really well on the door windows and is made for our application. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rvdave Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:37 PM Subject: RV10-List: windows & fiberglass Am at the point of doors, windows, and getting ready to attach plex to fiberglass. I'm considering using sikaflex, West Marine has the sikaflex291, is this the one others are using, or is there another? Also, is it common practice to glass over the window edge to cover the flange/plex bonding point so the adhesive can't be seen through the window? -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274728#274728 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:33 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: QB Fuel tank issue From: Kelly McMullen I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those holes. Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process. Kelly 40866 QB wings ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:31:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Fuel tank issue From: John Trollinger I pulled my vent line out once all my ribs were in place and re-ran it through the correct holes without any issues. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly > bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the > two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in > front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the > nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think > this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can > anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver > the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all > operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers > that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I > don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those > holes. > Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process. > Kelly > 40866 > QB wings > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:32:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Fuel tank issue From: John Trollinger never mind, I did not finish reading, my top was not installed yet. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly > bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the > two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in > front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the > nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think > this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can > anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver > the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all > operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers > that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I > don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those > holes. > Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process. > Kelly > 40866 > QB wings > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:01 PM PST US From: "Johnson" Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Fuel tank issue Get a new sender wire and bend the bugger so that the float runs along parallel with the vent line. 90 degree bend near the shepards hook. It will take some patience to get it right, and it will look like a road map, but your only other answer will involve cutting an inspection hole like the other RV's. You will need a new wire because by the time you get this groovy thing bent up its going to take more wire than the standard deal. Dont cut the wire and put the last little bend in until last...the one that goes through the sender..... Cheers.. Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly McMullen" Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:09 PM Subject: RV10-List: QB Fuel tank issue > > I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly > bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the > two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in > front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the > nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think > this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can > anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver > the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all > operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers > that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I > don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those > holes. > Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process. > Kelly > 40866 > QB wings > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:39:42 PM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Fuel tank issue From my experience, you should be able to get the line back through the clip via the fuel filler cap. My recommendation would be to get someone with fuel tanks still open to try it for you and see if it's doable. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation jesse@saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly > bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the > two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in > front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the > nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think > this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can > anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver > the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all > operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers > that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I > don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those > holes. > Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process. > Kelly > 40866 > QB wings > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:09:09 PM PST US From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever Subject: RV10-List: riveting the cabin top So I can no longer avoid it..........I am going to rivet on my cabin top th is weekend. I have avoided it as long as possible to enjoy the advantage o f having good access to the tailcone as I discovered more and more things I wanted to do back there........but I digress. I saw this morning that the plans call for CS4-4 rivets for attachment of t he cabin top to the side skins. Has anyone used solid rivets=2C as I clear ly have access to buck them? Would that be an improvement? Would that pote ntially damabe the composite from the impact of driving the rivets? Thanks in advance for any thoughts on it. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:28:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: riveting the cabin top From: sean@braunandco.com I read on Tim olsens site that he tried it. I won't try to remember what he stated but you can look it up on his site. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever Subject: RV10-List: riveting the cabin top So I can no longer avoid it..........I am going to rive t on my cabin top this weekend. I have avoided it as long as possible to enjoy the advantage of having go od access to the tailcone as I discovered more and more things I wanted to do back there........but I digress. I saw this morning that the plans call for CS4-4 rivets for attachment of the cabin top to the side skins. Has anyone used solid rivets, as I clearly have access to buck them? Would that be an improvement? Would t hat potentially damabe the composite from the impact of d riving the rivets? Thanks in advance for any thoughts on it. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:28:51 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: riveting the cabin top From: "egohr1" the cs-4 rivets will not damage the composite top and are used in shear between the two aluminum layers. If you use solid rivets you will damage the epoxy / glass as the rivet expands. Use the cs-4's -------- eric gohr EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275006#275006 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:38:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: riveting the cabin top From: Rob Kochman I used the CS4-4s. Most people I've talked to who used solid rivets said it wasn't worth it. Tim's comments sum it up pretty well: http://myrv10.com/N104CD/fuselage/20050816/index.html -Rob On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Roxanne and Mike Lefever < roxianmike@msn.com> wrote: > So I can no longer avoid it..........I am going to rivet on my cabin top > this weekend. I have avoided it as long as possible to enjoy the advantage > of having good access to the tailcone as I discovered more and more things I > wanted to do back there........but I digress. > > I saw this morning that the plans call for CS4-4 rivets for attachment of > the cabin top to the side skins. Has anyone used solid rivets, as I clearly > have access to buck them? Would that be an improvement? Would that > potentially damabe the composite from the impact of driving the rivets? > > Thanks in advance for any thoughts on it. > > * > > * > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 "Finishing" Kit Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:38:34 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: riveting the cabin top From: "Perry, Phil" I have heard that Van's selected pulled rivets over solid rivets, so we don't break any glass pounding the rivet head. Ultimately causing structural issues. Most people lay a layer of 2 oz glass over the top of the pulled rivets to hide the rivet heads. Phil From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever [mailto:roxianmike@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 7:06 PM Subject: RV10-List: riveting the cabin top So I can no longer avoid it..........I am going to rivet on my cabin top this weekend. I have avoided it as long as possible to enjoy the advantage of having good access to the tailcone as I discovered more and more things I wanted to do back there........but I digress. I saw this morning that the plans call for CS4-4 rivets for attachment of the cabin top to the side skins. Has anyone used solid rivets, as I clearly have access to buck them? Would that be an improvement? Would that potentially damabe the composite from the impact of driving the rivets? Thanks in advance for any thoughts on it. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:45:53 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Fuel tank issue From: Kelly McMullen Thanks Jesse. Don't know anyone in that phase nearby, but will take careful measurements as to how far I would need to pull the line out and see how much is on the other end..perhaps borrow a borescope to get a real good look at it. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Jesse Saint wrote: > > From my experience, you should be able to get the line back through the clip > via the fuel filler cap. My recommendation would be to get someone with > fuel tanks still open to try it for you and see if it's doable. > > Do not archive. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation > jesse@saintaviation.com > 352-427-0285 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > >> >> I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly >> bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the >> two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in >> front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the >> nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think >> this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can >> anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver >> the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all >> operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers >> that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I >> don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those >> holes. >> Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process. >> Kelly >> 40866 >> QB wings >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:36:14 PM PST US From: Robert Brunkenhoefer Subject: RV10-List: Defective qb tank Why is no one suggesting vans replace the defective tank with one built correctly . Please do not censor this post. Sent from my iPhone Robert E. Brunkenhoefer Brunkenhoefer Law Firm, P.C. 520 Lawrence St. Corpus Christi, Texas 78401 Phone: 361-888-8808 Facsimile: 361-888-6753 robert@brunklaw.com ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:17 PM PST US From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever Subject: RE: RV10-List: riveting the cabin top Thanks for multiple great replys..........CS4-4s it is! Subject: Re: RV10-List: riveting the cabin top From: sean@braunandco.com I read on Tim olsens site that he tried it. I won't try to remember what he stated but you can look it up on his site. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever Subject: RV10-List: riveting the cabin top So I can no longer avoid it..........I am going to rivet on my cabin top th = is weekend. =3B I have avoided it as long as possible to enjoy the ad va= ntage of having good access to the tailcone as I discovered more and more t= hings I wanted to do back there........but I digress. =3B I saw this morning that the plans call for CS4-4 rivets for attachment of t = he cabin top to the side skins. =3B Has anyone used solid rivets=2C as = I clearly have access to buck them? =3B Would that be an improvem ent? W= ould that potentially damabe the composite from the impact of dri ving the r= ivets? =3B Thanks in advance for any thoughts on it. = 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D =B7=9B~=89=ED=B2=2C=DE=DC==9C=A2Z+=D3M4=D3G=DAq=ED=C3r=8B=AB=89=EA=E7{ =07(=BA=B8=9E=AFp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp =F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7 =0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp =F7=0Fp=F7 =F9^j=C7=92=BA=9Ah=AE=D6(=BA=B2=B2=DB=13=86+ =A2{a=DC0'tg=ADJ =89=9E=01a=128=C1=05DA=06=89=FBl=DC==C36=8B=DE=99=B7=AB=8A=CBax =E7=B9=A9 K=8A=CBE=BAwQj+=1E=AC)brJ'=DC=3Bax*'=B6=B8=9B=BA=D8=A8=9EX=A7=91=B7=A5=A3 h ~)=DD=A2=EBf=A2=B7=9An=8B=AD=DC=3Ba=8A=CC=9Ej=BB=13z=BA~'=05=AD=E7=88=9D =C7=A7=B6+=DE=1A'=ED=B2=9A=E8=BE'^wp=DB=CBp=C0z=BA=04-=E7-=AE'=1A=86=B7 =9F=DC8m=B6=9F=FF=C3 =1Az=BA=1E-=E7-=AE'=1C=A2l0=C1=A7=AB=A1=E9^r=DAq =CA&=FD=AD=C3N=17=81=BA)]z=BB=01=A2=89=2C=B6=8A=DEj=1A=DE=7Fp=E1=B6=DA=7F =FF 0n=E8=A5u=EA=ECn=8A$=B1=CA&=C3 =1B=BA)]z=BB=1B=A2=89=2Cr=89kp=C7=A2g =9B=BA)m=1CB=CFj=1A=DE=7Fp=E1=B6=DA=7F=FF 0=86=89=9En=E8=A5=B6=17=A5=A5=CA& =C3 !=A2g=9B=BA)m=85=E9ir=89kp=F7 =B8=AC=B4*'=B6=B8=9B=BA=D8=A8=9Dg=9BJ+ ^=DC==C3j=1A=DE=7Fp=E1=B6=DA=7F=FF 0=99=ABk=A2x=9C=B1=CA&=FD=CA'=B6=B8=9B =BA=D8=A8=9E=1Bm=A7=FF=F0=C3 =9A=B6=BA'=89=CB=1C=A2o=DC=A2{k=89=BB=AD=8A=89 =FFkp=F7 8Z=9EL=A8=B9=FA+=CA=8B=AB=81=E9=DE=AE=8B=AC=B2=EAi=A2=BBw=0Fp=CCj =DBC=AD=A9ex=B8=AC=B4=07f=8A}=C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC= =C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3 =DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC ==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC= =C3=DC4=E1y=15u=D0=B8=AC=B4I=9A=8AQh=AE=E9=B7 K=1E=B6=17=8Cj=DA=E8=9E'=2C.+ -=15=E6=AD=BA=B7=AC5=AB=81=ABh=AE=DA=1B=AE=8C=2C{p=ED=85=E9=9A=9F"=B2 =DB=AD=8AX=AD=89=EB=2C=B9=C8Z=B0=B8=AC=B5I=FFJ=E6=ECr=B8=A9=B6*'=DC0+r=18 =AFy'=9A=AD=C8C=A3 =E5=A1=A7{ =AC=81=AE=8C=2Cx(Z=B4P=10=DC3=E1=A2=DA=2C=85 =DEjwf=B9=C8f=B9=C8f=A2=B7=B7=0Fp=DA=86=B7=9F=DC8m=B6=9F=FF=C3 &j=DA=E8 =9E'=2Cr=895=AB=81=ABh=AD=15u=D0=B8=AC=B6=1Bm=A7=FF=F0=C3 =9A=B6=BA' =89=CB=1C=A2o=CDj=F8 j=DA+E]t.+-=FD=AD=C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC= =C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3 =DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC ==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC==C3=DC= =C3=DC==C3=DC3�=3BM=13=8D $'=10=11NEC=12=DC4=9A=99=E8+y=AB\=A2{^=9E =D6=A5=B2=86=AFj)ZnW=AF=89=ABayg=9B=16=8A=EE=9A=CD=C3=DC6=A1=AD=E7=F7=0E=1B m=A7=FF=DF=A2=BB=B2f=AD=AE=89r=C7(=9A=1Bm=A7=FF=DF=A2=BB=B2f=AD=AE =89r=C7(=9B=F6=B7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp =F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7 =0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp=F7=0Fp =F7=0Fp=F7=0F=F6=FF~=89=ED=FE=9A=DE=FD=BA=1D=CB=F8m=9A ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:23 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: QB Fuel tank issue From: "woxofswa" Kelly, I've got QB tanks not far from you in Mesa. The sender is in one but not the other. You are welcome to come look at mine if it helps. Myron 602 421 2868 -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275017#275017 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:11 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Tools for starting on cabin top From: "woxofswa" Santa's elves have been making inquiries. I was looking at tools for the cabin top. A couple of interesting one's are the bandfile and the dual saw / twin cutter (Sear's version) Any suggestions? http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00989738000P?keyword=portable+belt+sander -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275024#275024 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:23:16 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: windows & fiberglass From: "rvdave" Sounds good, where can I get the Lord adhesive? -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275025#275025 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:13:33 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Fuel tank issue A little off topic, but as a new guy, I was very interested in the actual a mount of USABLE fuel in my QB tanks.- So I ran the right tank out in the air last week, and after getting on the ground was pleasantly pleased to dr ain a whopping 4oz out.- Then refueled... where the tank took every bit o f 30 gallons. Hope all of you didn't eat toooo much today.... but even if you did, it doe sn't matter.... because we fly the RV10! Don McDonald --- On Thu, 11/26/09, Jesse Saint wrote: From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Fuel tank issue >From my experience, you should be able to get the line back through the cli p via the fuel filler cap.- My recommendation would be to get someone wit h fuel tanks still open to try it for you and see if it's doable. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation jesse@saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly > bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the > two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in > front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the > nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think > this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can > anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver > the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all > operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers > that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I > don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those > holes. > Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process. > Kelly > 40866 > QB wings > > > > le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.