RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 12/04/09


Total Messages Posted: 19



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     1. 05:18 AM - Re: Voyager sale Fri only (orchidman)
     2. 05:39 AM - Re: Re: Voyager sale Fri only (Brent P. Humphreys)
     3. 05:54 AM - Re: Re: Voyager sale Fri only (Jesse Saint)
     4. 06:27 AM - PLBs (David McNeill)
     5. 06:52 AM - PLBs (David McNeill)
     6. 07:03 AM - Re: Leg Gear Fairing Hinge Pins - bottom or top? (Jae Chang)
     7. 07:35 AM - Re: Leg Gear Fairing Hinge Pins - bottom or top? (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
     8. 07:46 AM - Re: PLBs (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
     9. 07:54 AM - Re: PLBs (Kelly McMullen)
    10. 08:47 AM - Re: Re: IFR (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    11. 08:56 AM - Re: Re: IFR (Marcus Cooper)
    12. 09:00 AM - Re: PLBs (Bill DeRouchey)
    13. 12:01 PM - Re: Oil Cooler Valve (gary)
    14. 01:06 PM - Re: Oil Cooler Valve (Kelly McMullen)
    15. 01:24 PM - Re: Oil Cooler Valve (Richard Bibb)
    16. 02:56 PM - Re: Oil Cooler Valve (John Cox)
    17. 04:50 PM - Re: Oil Cooler Valve (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
    18. 06:30 PM - Re: Oil Cooler Valve (Kelly McMullen)
    19. 07:06 PM - Re: Oil Cooler Valve (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:18:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Voyager sale Fri only
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    jesse(at)saintaviation.co wrote: > Fabulous link. Takes a little doing for a not-that-technical computer guy, but very nice once it's working. > I like saving the chart plates by state. It takes a little longer to update things but I have a root folder called CHARTS. I then put each state in its own folder i.e. charts/TX The script will put all of the TX airports in their own folders. downloadplates.pl --states TX --destination c:chartsTX Then if I wanted to see all the approaches into Georgetown, I would brows to CHARTS, then TX, then GTU and bingo, listed are all the FAA approach plates for Georgetown. They are free, and legal. The nice thing about this program is that it also automatically handles updates/additions/deletions. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N2GB Flying) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=276134#276134


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    Time: 05:39:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Voyager sale Fri only
    From: "Brent P. Humphreys" <bhumphreys@stonetek.com>
    PDF Plates has a nice application to assist in downloading your plates. http://www.pdfplates.com/ They also compile the PDF's into single files like the FAA books. I know the developer, and if you have a specific format you would like them in, I could put a bug in his ear. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:15 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Voyager sale Fri only jesse(at)saintaviation.co wrote: > Fabulous link. Takes a little doing for a not-that-technical computer guy, but very nice once it's working. > I like saving the chart plates by state. It takes a little longer to update things but I have a root folder called CHARTS. I then put each state in its own folder i.e. charts/TX The script will put all of the TX airports in their own folders. downloadplates.pl --states TX --destination c:chartsTX Then if I wanted to see all the approaches into Georgetown, I would brows to CHARTS, then TX, then GTU and bingo, listed are all the FAA approach plates for Georgetown. They are free, and legal. The nice thing about this program is that it also automatically handles updates/additions/deletions. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N2GB Flying) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=276134#276134


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    Time: 05:54:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Voyager sale Fri only
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    I was thinking about that myself. I'm sure there is a way to automate this as well. I just don't know if I would rather have all of the airports in the same folder, or sorted by state. For example, if someone tells you to go to 5R4 from X35, you would have to look up the airport elsewhere to find out what state it is in and then look up the airport info. I'll have to use it a little bit to see if I'd rather take a little extra time going through the list or take the extra time (seldom as it may be needed) to find out what state the plate it in. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Dec 4, 2009, at 8:15 AM, orchidman wrote: > > > jesse(at)saintaviation.co wrote: >> Fabulous link. Takes a little doing for a not-that-technical computer guy, but very nice once it's working. >> > > I like saving the chart plates by state. It takes a little longer to update things but I have a root folder called CHARTS. I then put each state in its own folder i.e. charts/TX > The script will put all of the TX airports in their own folders. > > downloadplates.pl --states TX --destination c:chartsTX > > Then if I wanted to see all the approaches into Georgetown, I would brows to CHARTS, then TX, then GTU and bingo, listed are all the FAA approach plates for Georgetown. They are free, and legal. The nice thing about this program is that it also automatically handles updates/additions/deletions. > > -------- > Gary Blankenbiller > RV10 - # 40674 > (N2GB Flying) > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=276134#276134 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:27:45 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: PLBs
    Just read the article on the Medford OR couple who have been lost 3 days in the mountains. They had cell phones but no signal. If they had a PLB they would have been rescued within a few hours of their problem. Don't depend on a cell phone for communication in the event of a forced landing. If you have a 406Mh ELT fine but if not a $300 Fastfind 210 will ensure SAR activity shortly after activation. The Fastfind locates your position with a WAAS GPS and then transmits your position digitally to geosynchronous satellite over the Pacific or Atlantic; The distress message is then transmitted to Suitland MD where SAR headquarters activates local 911 responders. The PLB will operate at -20C or optionally at -40C. It can also be used on car trips, ATV adventures etc. It would be horrible to survive a forced landing and die of exposure waiting for SAR to find the aircraft or you. Whether flying the Glastar or the RV10 or driving the Van or rental car, I carry a Fastfind PLB. http://www.rei.com/product/791972


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    Time: 06:52:33 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: PLBs
    This is the one I have; the original from 2003? http://www.boatbandit.com/mcmurdopains-wessex-fastfind-plus-plb-w-gps-2716.a spx


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    Time: 07:03:42 AM PST US
    From: Jae Chang <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
    Subject: Re: Leg Gear Fairing Hinge Pins - bottom or top?
    Thanks for the replies. I finally got a chance to test it both ways again and the bottom up approach with wheel pants off seems the best for me, without permanently bending the pin. I was also thinking I may try to pop rivet some safety wire permanently in place by the hinge. Then I can twist and untwist the safety wire as needed. Jae 40533


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    Time: 07:35:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Leg Gear Fairing Hinge Pins - bottom or top?
    From: ricksked@embarqmail.com
    Just a suggestion but after about three or four twists and untwists the wire will most likely give out The way that pin slides in and out I never wired it in place My pant fairings are bonded to the pant itself and I can't see how the fairing pin could ever find is way out. Rick S. N246RS ------Original Message------ From: Jae Chang Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Dec 4, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Leg Gear Fairing Hinge Pins - bottom or top? Thanks for the replies. I finally got a chance to test it both ways again and the bottom up approach with wheel pants off seems the best for me, without permanently bending the pin. I was also thinking I may try to pop rivet some safety wire permanently in place by the hinge. Then I can twist and untwist the safety wire as needed. Jae 40533 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


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    Time: 07:46:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: PLBs
    From: ricksked@embarqmail.com
    The thing I like about PLB's is the cost..that and the fact my version of camping is a Holiday Inn without a bar...I want to be rescued!!.Sportys listed a basic one for 399. The 406 ELT's use the same technology don't they? So how come they are 1000 bucks? Rick Sked N246RS Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net> Subject: RV10-List: PLBs This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


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    Time: 07:54:22 AM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: PLBs
    ELT has a pricey G switch AND approvals from about 6 govt/miltary agencies. ACK took over a year to get approval after all paperwork was submitted. Like getting a complex STC approved. Ridiculous considering original ELT only needed FAA and FCC approval. ricksked@embarqmail.com wrote: > The thing I like about PLB's is the cost..that and the fact my version > of camping is a Holiday Inn without a bar...I want to be > rescued!!.Sportys listed a basic one for 399. The 406 ELT's use the same > technology don't they? So how come they are 1000 bucks? > > Rick Sked > N246RS > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


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    Time: 08:47:50 AM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Re: IFR
    I would take that a step farther and say that it is very feasible and proven for non-military persons with enough know how and an Internet connection to build a device that can jam localized GPS signals. There is a reason the AOPA and others are real twitchy about the decomm of the VOR system without a good backup for GPS. That also doesn't take into account the funding issues around the current GPS constellation and the expected reduction in capability due to failing satellites without new ones being launched. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:45 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: IFR Well, it is very feasible and proven for the military to jam GPS for a wide area. I've had that every time flying near Edwards AFB and a few times in NM. So it really does not matter how many redundant GPS's you have, if one can't get satellites the others probably can't either. Staying current on VOR approaches? Please...that is easier than staying proficient on ILSs. Some of us used to be younger and bolder. I started flying IFR after getting the ticket in a plane with one Navcom with ILS, and one ADF with manual tuning(non-digital)(Bendix T-12C for old timers). I flew both colored airways based on NDBs and Victor airways routinely, and no, I didn't have a transponder and my only backup was a trusty KX-99 handheld nav-com, which mostly served as a Nav 2 for crossing radials. So all altitude changes had to be reported, and each reporting point on the chart had to be called in as Center had very poor primary radar, so handled me as non-radar. Only approach control would bother to radar identify me.Oh, and that plane had AN gyros(yes, backwards DG just like compass). I didn't get a GPS until 15 years later. Point being that you best be able to fly the traditional airways with something other than GPS and better have something for back up attitude and altitude display, whether a second independent EFIS or steam gauges. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Bill Mauledriver Watson <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> wrote: I mean, yes, your electrical system can fail and yes > your primary nav radio can fail, but practically speaking, will GPS fail? > > Hard hat on: yes everything can fail. But my '10 will have 3 independent > GPS receivers on 3 different electrical systems and batteries. That's not > counting my 396. And while a VOR station in a critical location can fail, > the GPS network is sort of a cellular network. A couple of Sats go down, > will I notice? Can the entities running that network purposely fail it? > Can they afford to? A lot of things can happen but I've never had a GPS > failure or glitch in 20+ years or so. I did get strange inaccuracies near > the Aberdeen proving grounds on 2 occassions in 1999 - so I'm stretching the > truth a bit. > > A major challenge in staying current is staying proficient with VOR > navigation (forget the ADF which should be a hole in most of our panels). > Can you really do that VOR approach without the GPS? Can you do it with


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    Time: 08:56:27 AM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: IFR
    Interesting comments on the "margin of error", I think I have a different perspective. The purpose of higher minimums is to create just that, a safety margin. As you get closer to the runway the path you are following gets narrower (more challenging) which is not an issue on autopilot but then there are the discussions mentioned in other messages about distractions and autopilots kicking off. Also, the lower you break out the less time you have to fix any alignment issues and any delayed crosschecks will have greater consequences. All manageable with proficiency and currency. Until recently, for some airplanes the USAF had a graduated scale of minimums based on experience. Pilots started out at 1000-2, then 500-11/2 and then 300-1. We actually couldn't use published minimums less than that (ie normal ILS mins) except under dire circumstances. I got a lot of grief over that while flying with the Navy which allows their pilots to fly to published mins very quickly. It was overly conservative (the usual AF way) but did keep for a safer environment for pilots that did not have a lot of proficiency. On the other end of the spectrum my first experience in the airline world landing at near 0-0 on a CAT III approach was definitely eye watering! Going missed early does not require more maneuvering or involve more risk, you just fly the missed approach procedure a little sooner. By setting a min above published you give yourself more options at breakout, however you also invite the dilemma of "well, I'm really legal if I go a little lower, and I don't really want to go to the alternate..." so any personal mins need to be decided on and committed to before you start an approach. I like the previous discussion item of having certain mins for flight planning but then fly to published if required. It all comes down to your currency, proficiency and ability and when in doubt go somewhere else. Got a little long winded there, but there's my personal pitch for what it's worth but based on a pretty diverse background. Marcus Do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Curtis Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:00 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: IFR There are fights worth fighting, but I wouldn't consider ANY war a "good war" won or lost. Please explain how 500/1 "give you some margin of error" when you are in the clouds? Going missed at some arbitrary minimum requires more maneuvering (and thus more risk) than just aligning the needles and continuing to PUBLISHED minimums. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:05 PM, lbgjb10 <lbgjb@gnt.net> wrote: Jesse--I remember when I got my rating in the early 60's--my dad, old WWII (the last good, winning one, unless you count Granada) pilot, said, put the ticket on the glare shield and hope God see's it, as I was boarding my Tripacer with a whistle stop tuning radio!!!! Try an approach to mins. (VFR with instructor) and have him fail your instruments except your basic backup, add a little turbulence and it can really change your minimums. 500/1 mile gives you some margin of error. Your problem will be staying really current with winter and icing, and with summer boomers in FL not very conducive to 'fun' IFR. Best and most fun IFR I had was living on the west coast with marine layer, smooth clouds with decent ceilings--made you feel like a real hot shot. Just be careful our there. Larry -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG -- William N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/


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    Time: 09:00:27 AM PST US
    From: Bill DeRouchey <billderou@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: PLBs
    The SAR agencies can decode the ID and determine if the source is a PLB (hi ker) or ELT (aircraft) or EPIRB (ship/boat). This decoding provides the age ncies with a choice of responses. If a pilot crashes and sets off his PLB will he receive a response time equ al to setting off his ELT? - My ELT decision was based upon a theoretical crash with my wife. One mental sceanario was 121.5Mhz and the other a-406Mhz. -Looking at the short t ime to rescue with the 406 and the uncertain time to rescue with the 121 th e thought of Sara sitting in the dirt beside a ball of aluminum and posing the question - "After spending $140K plus on this airplane you could not sp end another $500 to protect-our lives?"-- would haunt me for years. - I purchased the 406. - Bill DeRouchey N939SB - --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: PLBs ELT has a pricey G switch AND approvals from about 6 govt/miltary agencies. ACK took over a year to get approval after all paperwork was submitted. Li ke getting a complex STC approved. Ridiculous considering original ELT only needed FAA and FCC approval. ricksked@embarqmail.com wrote: > The thing I like about PLB's is the cost..that and the fact my version of camping is a Holiday Inn without a bar...I want to be rescued!!.Sportys li sted a basic one for 399. The 406 ELT's use the same technology don't they? So how come they are 1000 bucks? > > Rick Sked > N246RS > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T le, List Admin.


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    Time: 12:01:29 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Oil Cooler Valve
    While it is true that the open Vernatherm does not prevent oil from going through the cooler, the differential viscosity between the warm engine and the cooler oil cooler directs almost all the flow back through the engine and not through the cooler. Especially true if you have preheated the engine with one of the plug in types that heat only the engine and not the oil cooler. It has been my experience in cold weather flying that if you limit the intake air into the cowl enough to keep your CHTs up where they need to be, then the oil cooler pretty much takes care of itself. Large aluminum restrictors in front of the front two cylinders or duct tape over part of the cowl inlet does the trick. Without some air restriction, it is very easy to get the front cylinders over cooled or shock cooled upon decent and landing. What is really needed IMHO is a valve to control the airflow into the cowl. Any of you inventors out there have any ideas? Gary Specketer -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Oil Cooler Valve Not the whole story. Just like automotive cooling systems thermostats there is a bypass passage for oil in the aircraft engine, AND the passage to the oil cooler. The vernatherm ONLY controls the bypass and does nothing for the path through the cooler. So the bypass gets closed as the engine nears the rated oil temp of the vernatherm, but the oil cooler lines are always open. So if the oil cooler is getting 20 degree air across its full face, it may stay mostly congealed until the vernatherm closes the bypass. If airflow is restricted to the cooler, the cooler will in fact warm up faster. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:05 PM, gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote: > Just so we are clear here, The vernatherm is open when it is cold and the > oil is not flowing through the cooler. Thus cutting off the air flow to the > cooler will not make it warm up faster. Up north folks do limit air flow to > the cooler in winter so the straight weight oil does not over cool and get > so thick it doesnt want to flow through the cooler. Just so you warm > weather folks know. > > > Gary Specketer > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:25 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Oil Cooler Valve > > > Can anybody on the list remind me where I can get that valve that closes off > the scat tube going to the oil cooler (so the oil will warm up faster on a > cold day)? I remember buying one in the past, but can't remember where. > > > do not archive > > > Jesse Saint > > Saint Aviation, Inc. > > jesse@saintaviation.com > > Cell: 352-427-0285 > > Fax: 815-377-3694 > >


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    Time: 01:06:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Cooler Valve
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Cooling air for engine is very specific to a given cowling design and you need to be careful to not get hot spots in unintended places. It is much safer to regulate oil cooling air. While you think a thermostat is sufficient, when it is really cold, restricting the airflow makes a big difference. In Alaska it was necessary to block about 2/3 to 3/4 of radiator on cars to get sufficient cabin heat and engine up to normal temps. But those were operated to -60 and colder. In all but emergency situations piston aircraft flying stopped between -20 for personal stuff, -40 for air taxi and charter work. Cowl flaps are better for regulating CHT than any restriction on the inlet side. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:58 PM, gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote: > > While it is true that the open Vernatherm does not prevent oil from going > through the cooler, the differential viscosity between the warm engine and > the cooler oil cooler directs almost all the flow back through the engine > and not through the cooler. Especially true if you have preheated the > engine with one of the plug in types that heat only the engine and not the > oil cooler. > > It has been my experience in cold weather flying that if you limit the > intake air into the cowl enough to keep your CHTs up where they need to be, > then the oil cooler pretty much takes care of itself. Large aluminum > restrictors in front of the front two cylinders or duct tape over part of > the cowl inlet does the trick. > > Without some air restriction, it is very easy to get the front cylinders > over cooled or shock cooled upon decent and landing. > > What is really needed IMHO is a valve to control the airflow into the cowl. > Any of you inventors out there have any ideas? > > Gary Specketer > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:55 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Oil Cooler Valve > > > Not the whole story. Just like automotive cooling systems thermostats > there is a bypass passage for oil in the aircraft engine, AND the > passage to the oil cooler. The vernatherm ONLY controls the bypass and > does nothing for the path through the cooler. So the bypass gets > closed as the engine nears the rated oil temp of the vernatherm, but > the oil cooler lines are always open. So if the oil cooler is getting > 20 degree air across its full face, it may stay mostly congealed until > the vernatherm closes the bypass. If airflow is restricted to the > cooler, the cooler will in fact warm up faster. > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:05 PM, gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote: >> Just so we are clear here, The vernatherm is open when it is cold and the >> oil is not flowing through the cooler. Thus cutting off the air flow to > the >> cooler will not make it warm up faster. Up north folks do limit air flow > to >> the cooler in winter so the straight weight oil does not over cool and get >> so thick it doesnt want to flow through the cooler. Just so you warm >> weather folks know. >> >> >> >> Gary Specketer >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint >> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:25 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Oil Cooler Valve >> >> >> >> Can anybody on the list remind me where I can get that valve that closes > off >> the scat tube going to the oil cooler (so the oil will warm up faster on a >> cold day)? I remember buying one in the past, but can't remember where. >> >> >> >> do not archive >> >> >> >> Jesse Saint >> >> Saint Aviation, Inc. >> >> jesse@saintaviation.com >> >> Cell: 352-427-0285 >> >> Fax: 815-377-3694 >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 01:24:21 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Bibb" <rbibb@tomet.net>
    Subject: Oil Cooler Valve
    Richard Bibb "What is really needed IMHO is a valve to control the airflow into the cowl. Any of you inventors out there have any ideas?" Aren't they called cowl flaps?


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    Time: 02:56:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Oil Cooler Valve
    From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Cowl flaps control airflow out of the low pressure end. John Cox ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Richard Bibb Sent: Fri 12/4/2009 1:20 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Oil Cooler Valve Richard Bibb "What is really needed IMHO is a valve to control the airflow into the cowl. Any of you inventors out there have any ideas?" Aren't they called cowl flaps?


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    Time: 04:50:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Cooler Valve
    From: ricksked@embarqmail.com
    John, Did you get my pics for your CD? Rick Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Oil Cooler Valve This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


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    Time: 06:30:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Cooler Valve
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Well, only part of the story John. What they control is the pressure differential across the cylinders, which controls the airflow through the engine compartment. When you have a funnel, it doesn't matter how big the top end opening is, only the size of the little opening at the bottom. If the top of the funnel is full, ain't no more getting in until some goes out the bottom. Great over simplification of what happens, but works well enough for discussion purposes. I really think that most of the hot weather cooling issues could be fixed with properly sized/designed cowl flaps. But WTFDIK, still working on wings? Kelly On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:52 PM, John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote: > Cowl flaps control airflow out of the low pressure end. > > John Cox > ________________________________ > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Richard Bibb > Sent: Fri 12/4/2009 1:20 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Oil Cooler Valve > > > > Richard Bibb > > "What is really needed IMHO is a valve to control the airflow into the cowl. > Any of you inventors out there have any ideas?"


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    Time: 07:06:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Cooler Valve
    From: ricksked@embarqmail.com
    Kelly.. I love the WTFDIK.....response ROFLMAO.....made my night Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Oil Cooler Valve Well, only part of the story John. What they control is the pressure differential across the cylinders, which controls the airflow through the engine compartment. When you have a funnel, it doesn't matter how big the top end opening is, only the size of the little opening at the bottom. If the top of the funnel is full, ain't no more getting in until some goes out the bottom. Great over simplification of what happens, but works well enough for discussion purposes. I really think that most of the hot weather cooling issues could be fixed with properly sized/designed cowl flaps. But WTFDIK, still working on wings? Kelly On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:52 PM, John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote: > Cowl flaps control airflow out of the low pressure end. > > John Cox > ________________________________ > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Richard Bibb > Sent: Fri 12/4/2009 1:20 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Oil Cooler Valve > > > > Richard Bibb > > "What is really needed IMHO is a valve to control the airflow into the cowl. > Any of you inventors out there have any ideas?"




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