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1. 07:17 AM - Re: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night flight in Dec (Lew Gallagher)
2. 07:34 AM - Re: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night flight in Dec (Lew Gallagher)
3. 08:44 AM - Re: RV-10 Project for sale (Jeff Carpenter)
4. 08:51 AM - Re: Stiff control cables (hsdexo)
5. 09:59 AM - Video (Robin Marks)
6. 10:17 AM - Re: Video (Jeff Carpenter)
7. 10:17 AM - Re: Video (Perry, Phil)
8. 11:45 AM - Re: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night flight in Decem... (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
9. 12:51 PM - Re: RV-10 Project for sale (Vernon Smith)
10. 01:33 PM - Re: RV-10 Project for sale (Tim Olson)
11. 01:48 PM - Re: RV-10 Project for sale (sean@hangerg.com)
12. 05:50 PM - Re: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night flight in Decem... (Roxanne and Mike Lefever)
13. 05:57 PM - Re: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night flight in Dece... (RobHickman@aol.com)
14. 07:37 PM - Re: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night flight in Decem... (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
15. 08:08 PM - Re: RV-10 Project for sale (Vernon Smith)
16. 10:57 PM - Re: Video (Don McDonald)
17. 11:54 PM - Re: Video (Robin Marks)
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| Subject: | Re: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night flight in |
Dec
Hey Rick,
Believe me I get it! For clarification, this is me helping him build HIS plane
... totally his, no liability to me, no real input, no sharing of expenses.
I love the building so much that I've started collecting parts to build another
one -- then I will have direct input, and your comments will be more pertinent.
Still lobbying as hard as I can.
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Painting done!
On with wiring and avionics.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=276820#276820
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| Subject: | Re: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night flight in |
Dec
Hey Les,
Would this be the Advanced Pilot? If so, I'll use that to point him in a specific
direction -- maybe I can get it on his wife's X-mas list.
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Painting done!
On with wiring and avionics.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=276823#276823
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Project for sale |
Hi Vern,
I'm very sorry to hear it. I know how heartbroken I would be if I had
to part with my project this close to the finish line... though with
the 12 you might actually be in the air sooner.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:59 PM, Vernon Smith wrote:
> Well Folks,
>
> This is one of the hardest (and maybe one of the shortest;) emails I
> have ever composed. Basically I have hit a brick wall and the only
> way around it is to sell th RV-10 project and go LSA. I'm thankful
> Van's is marketing the RV-12, but alas it's not a 10.
>
> Project details, photos and price can be found on my website www.aviationstop.com
> . Feel free to contact me off line.
>
> Vern Smith (40324)
> do not archive
>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stiff control cables |
Dave, make sure you have a good ground between aircraft and engine, or check your
ground and make sure it is not loose. Your cables could be making your ground
and that would tighten them up eventually seizing them.
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Dear List,
I recently purchased a Sony Webbie HD video camera for about
$170.00 online. While returning from LOP testing yesterday my friend
tried it out for the first time and captured this video of us
descending back into SBP near sundown. The camera prefers more light and
he needed to have a slightly different focal setting to get the close up
screen shot but after looking at the video a couple of times I figured
it might be inspirational to a few builders so I figured I would share
it before I remove it from YouTube. BTW the upload to Google's new HD
YouTube is really simple. I can't wait to make in-flight videos with the
RV-8A.
Robin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aJt4_Chswo&hd=1
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nice
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On Dec 9, 2009, at 9:58 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
> Dear List,
> I recently purchased a Sony Webbie HD video camera for
> about $170.00 online. While returning from LOP testing yesterday my
> friend tried it out for the first time and captured this video of
> us descending back into SBP near sundown. The camera prefers more
> light and he needed to have a slightly different focal setting to
> get the close up screen shot but after looking at the video a couple
> of times I figured it might be inspirational to a few builders so I
> figured I would share it before I remove it from YouTube. BTW the
> upload to Google=92s new HD YouTube is really simple. I can=92t wait
to
> make in-flight videos with the RV-8A.
>
> Robin
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aJt4_Chswo&hd=1
>
>
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Wow.. Great video Robin!!
I'm ready to fly........................
From: Robin Marks [mailto:robin1@mrmoisture.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Video
Dear List,
I recently purchased a Sony Webbie HD video camera for about
$170.00 online. While returning from LOP testing yesterday my friend
tried it out for the first time and captured this video of us
descending back into SBP near sundown. The camera prefers more light and
he needed to have a slightly different focal setting to get the close up
screen shot but after looking at the video a couple of times I figured
it might be inspirational to a few builders so I figured I would share
it before I remove it from YouTube. BTW the upload to Google's new HD
YouTube is really simple. I can't wait to make in-flight videos with the
RV-8A.
Robin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aJt4_Chswo&hd=1
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| Subject: | IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night flight |
in Decem...
Looks great! Now if I could only get the units that I have had on order fo
r more than a year I could actually see it in person. Sheesh.
Michael
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atronics.com] On Behalf Of RobHickman@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night fligh
t in Decem...
EFIS screens with synthetic vision and geo-referenced approach plates help
tremendously in situational awareness.
I just posted pictures from last weekend:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=51435
Rob Hickman
N402RH RV-10
In a message dated 12/5/2009 11:08:56 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, deej@deej
.net writes:
On 12/5/2009 9:21 AM, Bill Mauledriver Watson wrote:
> I've never flown into Lebanon airport but I have polished the
> surrounding mountains and explored some of the narrow valley fields. We
I learned to fly out of the Lebanon, NH airport, and it can be
challenging. As a VFR pilot, there are many directions approaching the
airport that you can't see the airport until you are very close to it.
The airport is nestled between some nice "hills" that run mostly
parallel to runway 18/36.
The IFR approaches bring you out over some "interesting" terrain, and
with a bit of wind, it can get pretty bumpy with all the hills
disrupting the air. If you go missed, you definitely want to make sure
you follow the published procedure.
On the positive side, absolutely some of the most beautiful country to
see when you are flying. The view itself is enough of an incentive to
put up with the hassle of winter flying.
-Dj
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| Subject: | RV-10 Project for sale |
Hi Jeff=2C
Thanks for the encouraging thoughts. I never looked at there being an up si
de to get an RV-12 in the air sooner. What? Every gray cloud has a silver l
ining:)
One question that has come up is about the 51% rule for the new owner. I ha
ve discussed this with both the EAA and the FAA registration office and bot
h said this will not be a problem for the new owner/builder. In fact=2C the
FAA gave me step by step instructions on how the transfer ownership and en
sure a smooth transition and registration for the new owner. To say the les
s my builder's log and ownership paper trail back to Van's is crucial. Good
thing I'm a documentation nut! Of course=2C dealing with government agenci
es and documentation is how I make my living.
Vern
From: jeff@westcottpress.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Project for sale
Hi Vern=2C
I'm very sorry to hear it. I know how heartbroken I would be if I had to p
art with my project this close to the finish line... though with the 12 you
might actually be in the air sooner.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
On Dec 7=2C 2009=2C at 5:59 PM=2C Vernon Smith wrote:
Well Folks=2C
This is one of the hardest (and maybe one of the shortest=3B) emails I have
ever composed. Basically I have hit a brick wall and the only way around i
t is to sell th RV-10 project and go LSA. I'm thankful Van's is marketing t
he RV-12=2C but alas it's not a 10.
Project details=2C photos and price can be found on my website www.aviation
stop.com. Feel free to contact me off line.
Vern Smith (40324)
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Project for sale |
The registration at 51% won't be a problem but a buyer may not get the
repair certificate..so that would be the main worry.
Tim
On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Vernon Smith <planesmith@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Thanks for the encouraging thoughts. I never looked at there being
> an up side to get an RV-12 in the air sooner. What? Every gray cloud
> has a silver lining:)
>
> One question that has come up is about the 51% rule for the new
> owner. I have discussed this with both the EAA and the FAA
> registration office and both said this will not be a problem for the
> new owner/builder. In fact, the FAA gave me step by step
> instructions on how the transfer ownership and ensure a smooth
> transition and registration for the new owner. To say the less my
> builder's log and ownership paper trail back to Van's is crucial.
> Good thing I'm a documentation nut! Of course, dealing with
> government agencies and documentation is how I make my living.
>
> Vern
>
> From: jeff@westcottpress.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Project for sale
> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:40:24 -0800
>
> Hi Vern,
>
> I'm very sorry to hear it. I know how heartbroken I would be if I
> had to part with my project this close to the finish line... though
> with the 12 you might actually be in the air sooner.
>
> Jeff Carpenter
> 40304
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:59 PM, Vernon Smith wrote:
>
> Well Folks,
>
> This is one of the hardest (and maybe one of the shortest;) emails I
> have ever composed. Basically I have hit a brick wall and the only
> way around it is to sell th RV-10 project and go LSA. I'm thankful
> Van's is marketing the RV-12, but alas it's not a 10.
>
> Project details, photos and price can be found on my website www.aviationstop.com
> . Feel free to contact me off line.
>
> Vern Smith (40324)
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night flight |
in Decem...
Is AFS a year behind on deliveries?
From: rvbuilder@sausen.net
Subject: RE: RV10-List: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night fligh
t in Decem...
Looks great! Now if I could only get the units that I have had on order fo
r more than a year I could actually see it in person. Sheesh.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of RobHickman@aol.com
Sent: Monday=2C December 07=2C 2009 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night fligh
t in Decem...
EFIS screens with synthetic vision and geo-referenced approach plates help
tremendously in situational awareness.
I just posted pictures from last weekend:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=51435
Rob Hickman
N402RH RV-10
In a message dated 12/5/2009 11:08:56 A.M. Pacific Standard Time=2C deej@de
ej.net writes:
On 12/5/2009 9:21 AM=2C Bill Mauledriver Watson wrote:
> I've never flown into Lebanon airport but I have polished the
> surrounding mountains and explored some of the narrow valley fields. We
I learned to fly out of the Lebanon=2C NH airport=2C and it can be
challenging. As a VFR pilot=2C there are many directions approaching the
airport that you can't see the airport until you are very close to it.
The airport is nestled between some nice "hills" that run mostly
parallel to runway 18/36.
The IFR approaches bring you out over some "interesting" terrain=2C and
with a bit of wind=2C it can get pretty bumpy with all the hills
disrupting the air. If you go missed=2C you definitely want to make sure
you follow the published procedure.
On the positive side=2C absolutely some of the most beautiful country t
o
see when you are flying. The view itself is enough of an incentive to
put up with the hassle of winter flying.
-Dj
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| Subject: | Re: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night flight |
in Dece...
We have only been shipping the new units for 6 weeks, your two units are
in production and should ship before the end of the month.
Rob Hickman
Advanced Flight Systems Inc.
In a message dated 12/9/2009 11:47:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
rvbuilder@sausen.net writes:
Looks great! Now if I could only get the units that I have had on order
for more than a year I could actually see it in person. Sheesh.
Michael
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night
flight in Decem...
EFIS screens with synthetic vision and geo-referenced approach plates help
tremendously in situational awareness.
I just posted pictures from last weekend:
_http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=51435_
(http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=51435)
Rob Hickman
N402RH RV-10
In a message dated 12/5/2009 11:08:56 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
deej@deej.net writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
On 12/5/2009 9:21 AM, Bill Mauledriver Watson wrote:
> I've never flown into Lebanon airport but I have polished the
> surrounding mountains and explored some of the narrow valley fields. We
I learned to fly out of the Lebanon, NH airport, and it can be
challenging. As a VFR pilot, there are many directions approaching the
airport that you can't see the airport until you are very close to it.
The airport is nestled between some nice "hills" that run mostly
parallel to runway 18/36.
The IFR approaches bring you out over some "interesting" terrain, and
with a bit of wind, it can get pretty bumpy with all the hills
disrupting the air. If you go missed, you definitely want to make sure
you follow the published procedure.
On the positive side, absolutely some of the most beautiful country to
see when you are flying. The view itself is enough of an incentive to
put up with the hassle of winter flying.
-Dj
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Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Grumman Yankee Driver N9870L - =====================
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| Subject: | IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night flight |
in Decem...
For me yes, my order for the AdvancedDecks was in back in November last y
ear. Seems it depends on more than just the order they were ordered in vs
when you receive them. Don't get me wrong, I still think that Rob's EFIS i
s in the top two out there but I'm on my third delivery date now (not count
ing the numerous general dates we have all heard) and others have received
theirs with considerably less wait time. Now I do understand the philosoph
y behind getting people that are ready to fly their equipment but at some p
oint that becomes a self fulfilling prophecy and you need to address the pe
ople that have been waiting excessively.
Honestly they could have stayed out of this situation by avoiding overly
optimistic delivery targets. Dynon's approach to this style of marketing w
as much better IMHO.
Michael
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atronics.com] On Behalf Of Roxanne and Mike Lefever
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night fligh
t in Decem...
Is AFS a year behind on deliveries?
________________________________
From: rvbuilder@sausen.net
Subject: RE: RV10-List: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night fligh
t in Decem...
Looks great! Now if I could only get the units that I have had on order fo
r more than a year I could actually see it in person. Sheesh.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of RobHickman@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: IFR continued - A great dark and stormy night fligh
t in Decem...
EFIS screens with synthetic vision and geo-referenced approach plates help
tremendously in situational awareness.
I just posted pictures from last weekend:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=51435
Rob Hickman
N402RH RV-10
In a message dated 12/5/2009 11:08:56 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, deej@deej
.net writes:
On 12/5/2009 9:21 AM, Bill Mauledriver Watson wrote:
> I've never flown into Lebanon airport but I have polished the
> surrounding mountains and explored some of the narrow valley fields. We
I learned to fly out of the Lebanon, NH airport, and it can be
challenging. As a VFR pilot, there are many directions approaching the
airport that you can't see the airport until you are very close to it.
The airport is nestled between some nice "hills" that run mostly
parallel to runway 18/36.
The IFR approaches bring you out over some "interesting" terrain, and
with a bit of wind, it can get pretty bumpy with all the hills
disrupting the air. If you go missed, you definitely want to make sure
you follow the published procedure.
On the positive side, absolutely some of the most beautiful country to
see when you are flying. The view itself is enough of an incentive to
put up with the hassle of winter flying.
-Dj
--
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Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Grumman Yankee Driver N9870L - ==============
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Tim=2C
Thank you for the reassurance=2C as the 51% thing had been a real concern.
It was interesting the gentleman at the EAA said the repairman's certificat
e would depend greatly on the individual inspector and what kind of day he
was having. But as the saying goes your mileage may vary!
Vern
do not archive
From: Tim@MyRV10.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Project for sale
The registration at 51% won't be a problem but a buyer may not get the repa
ir certificate..so that would be the main worry.Tim
On Dec 9=2C 2009=2C at 2:49 PM=2C Vernon Smith <planesmith@hotmail.com> wro
te:
Hi Jeff=2C
Thanks for the encouraging thoughts. I never looked at there being an up si
de to get an RV-12 in the air sooner. What? Every gray cloud has a silver l
ining:)
One question that has come up is about the 51% rule for the new owner. I ha
ve discussed this with both the EAA and the FAA registration office and bot
h said this will not be a problem for the new owner/builder. In fact=2C the
FAA gave me step by step instructions on how the transfer ownership and en
sure a smooth transition and registration for the new owner. To say the les
s my builder's log and ownership paper trail back to Van's is crucial. Good
thing I'm a documentation nut! Of course=2C dealing with government agenci
es and documentation is how I make my living.
Vern
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Great shots.... but, we were all waiting for the landing!=C2-=C2- Which
Webbie did you get?=C2- Was it one of the colored ones?=C2-=C2- What
did you use for the first flight?
Don McDonald
--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote:
From: Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Video
Dear List,
=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I recent
ly purchased a Sony Webbie HD video camera for about $170.00 online. While
returning from LOP testing yesterday my friend tried it out for the first
=C2- time and captured this video of us descending back into SBP near sun
down. The camera prefers more light and he needed to have a slightly differ
ent focal setting to get the close up screen shot but after looking at the
video a couple of times I figured it might be inspirational to a few builde
rs so I figured I would share it before I remove it from YouTube. BTW the u
pload to Google=99s new HD YouTube is really simple. I can=99t
wait to make in-flight videos with the RV-8A.
=C2-
Robin
=C2-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aJt4_Chswo&hd=1
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