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1. 10:15 AM - Re: Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (Don McDonald)
2. 10:15 AM - Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (Jim Berry)
3. 12:14 PM - Re: thermawing deicing (cjay)
4. 12:38 PM - Re: G3i Ignition (cjay)
5. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: G3i Ignition (Kelly McMullen)
6. 04:49 PM - Re: Re: thermawing deicing (Dave Saylor)
7. 05:42 PM - Re: Re: thermawing deicing (Jesse Saint)
8. 08:41 PM - Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (dougwells)
9. 09:09 PM - Re: Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (Ben Westfall)
10. 09:57 PM - Re: Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription (Ben Westfall)
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Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
Doug
With the SkyPad and their software..... if you already have XM Satellite we
ather coming in to a Garmin 496, can you tie into it and have it available
for the SkyPad?
Thanks,
Don McDonald
--- On Sat, 12/12/09, dougwells <dougwells@gmail.com> wrote:
From: dougwells <dougwells@gmail.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription
I have Seattle Avionics SkyPad.- Like time, I have been very happy with t
he unit (checking my email & this forum with it right now...)
SSD - I have the 32 gig SSD drive and have ever chart, approach plate, Sect
ional, TACs, Lo-Enroute etc charts for the entire country installed.- Tak
es up about 7-8 gigs.- I find the 32gig size to be more than adequate.
Lifetime - I have the lifetime charts..great deal.- What a difference hav
ing every plate and chart in the country.
SkyPad - nice device.- I do all my weather and trip planning on it as wel
l as my inflight work on it.- Completely underestimated the convenience o
f doing it all on one machine......the skypad is definitely a great way to
go...
Financial Health of Seattle Avionics - I think that it helps alot that Bend
ix/King outsources their chart processing to SA.- Gives SA more cash flow
and I take comfort in knowing that Bendix/King takes great strides to keep
their employees onboard..
------ Short answer is JUST DO IT!- The Skypad is a great deal!
Best,
Doug
I really think EFBs have finally come of age and will help pilots evolve in
to better airman.
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Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
Doug,
JUST DO IT works for me. In fact I have already done it, but I went with an LE1600
modified per the description on Tim's web site. I have about $700 and an hour's
time in the tablet pc with the ssd drive and memory upgrade. If you can
build an RV10 you will be able to do this upgrade. Makes for a very quick and
slick EFB. I am still learning my way around the Voyager software, but agree it
is great to have all charts on board. After years of updating my Jepp charts,
it is almost worth the cost of Voyager's lifetime subscription just to have
the auto-updates.
Jim Berry
40482
N15JB
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Subject: | Re: thermawing deicing |
dave.saylor.aircrafters(a wrote:
> We've installed the complete system, less leading edges, on two (composite) planes.
When they're finished, they'll be flown to RDD to have the leading edges
installed. Unfortunately, there's no provision for using their alternator for
anything but the de-ice system.
>
Dave,
Do they have an installation manual for the 10 yet? Would you put it in your 10?
As for the alternator, they probably don't want you to use it as a backup, but
doubtful they could prevent it. Otherwise, it would be a grave waste of a potential
redundancy when de-icing isn't needed, an attractive feature.
Is it a single alternator that produces 100 amps?
cjay
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Subject: | Re: G3i Ignition |
OK,
making some progress on the debate, we know it doesn't advance timing.
Does it dispel their fundamental claims, however?;
efficiency
smoother engine
fuel saving
horsepower
Anyone have experience?
cjay
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Subject: | Re: G3i Ignition |
It likely does make engine smoother with stronger sparks. Doubtful it
does much for fuel savings, and very doubtful it makes any difference
on horsepower. However, it probably makes running LOP more feasible
with consistent and strong sparks. If you like having capacitive
discharge multiple sparks, with magneto backup, certainly reasonable
way to go. If you can't advance the timing when running at 75% and
below, you aren't going to gain horsepower nor economy from that
aspect, but you may be able to gain it by running LOP and adding
manifold pressure to reach 75% on the lean side of peak. If you can
achieve 13 gph lean of peak you will be at 195 hp and scooting as fast
as Van intended on minimum fuel.
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 1:36 PM, cjay <cgfinney@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> OK,
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> making some progress on the debate, we know it doesn't advance timing.
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> Does it dispel their fundamental claims, however?;
> efficiency
> smoother engine
> fuel saving
> horsepower
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> Anyone have experience?
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Subject: | Re: thermawing deicing |
>>Do they have an installation manual for the 10 yet?<<
I'm not sure if the manual is out yet or not. Our installations weren't on
10s.
>>Would you put it in your 10?<<
No, too heavy for my personal philosophy, and there's an airspeed penalty
100% of the time from the cuffs (6 knots reported at Lancair speeds--YMMV).
But then I'd pass on A/C and bunch of other heavy stuff. In Central CA we
do see icing but it isn't as much of a factor as almost everywhere else. I
wouldn't hesitate installing it for customers if they wanted it. No safety
issues that I'm aware of.
One of our installations was on a IV-P, which is still lacking the cuffs.
Another IV-P customer is considering it because he says that even a tiny bit
of rime slows him down a lot more than 6 kts.
>>Is it a single alternator that produces 100 amps?<<
It's a single alternator that looks very similar to the 100A alternator that
you would normally see on the front of a Continental. The pulley is the
only difference I can see but I don't know about internals. I'm not sure
how much it puts out.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
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Subject: | Re: thermawing deicing |
If I'm not mistaken, while it is a 100-Amp alternator, it is not 12 or
24V. I seem to remember hearing that it was higher voltage, which would
mean you would have to use some kind of voltage converter or something
like that to connect to your electrical system as a backup. Take that
for what it's worth, but I seem to remember that it would not be useable
in the aircraft's electrical system because of this.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Dec 13, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Dave Saylor wrote:
> >>Do they have an installation manual for the 10 yet?<<
>
> I'm not sure if the manual is out yet or not. Our installations
weren't on 10s.
>
> >>Would you put it in your 10?<<
>
> No, too heavy for my personal philosophy, and there's an airspeed
penalty 100% of the time from the cuffs (6 knots reported at Lancair
speeds--YMMV). But then I'd pass on A/C and bunch of other heavy stuff.
In Central CA we do see icing but it isn't as much of a factor as
almost everywhere else. I wouldn't hesitate installing it for customers
if they wanted it. No safety issues that I'm aware of.
>
> One of our installations was on a IV-P, which is still lacking the
cuffs. Another IV-P customer is considering it because he says that
even a tiny bit of rime slows him down a lot more than 6 kts.
>
> >>Is it a single alternator that produces 100 amps?<<
>
> It's a single alternator that looks very similar to the 100A
alternator that you would normally see on the front of a Continental.
The pulley is the only difference I can see but I don't know about
internals. I'm not sure how much it puts out.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters LLC
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
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Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
Hi Don,
I'm not 100% sure but I think the wx weather has to come from XM's WX box. The
team at Seattle Avionics could tell you for sure. I have a seperate XM box that
picks up the weather and then communicates it to my SkyPad via bluetooth.
On the 496, as you know, the XM "box" is built into the unit. Great idea and I
wish all vendors could offer this for their system but I guess Garmin has the
exclusive right to have the XM box being built in. Smart of Garmin, I guess.
I would be once you have the SkyPad, you would not want/need your 496. All you
would need is the XM bluetooth box and you should be good to go....
Best,
Doug
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Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
I've been thinking of taking the plunge and buying a system and voyager as
well. I've looked around and found the line of netbook that Seattle
Avionics sells as their skypad. It's sub $500 with a rotating hard disk.
I found what I think would make a better platform at Newegg while looking at
some of the newer netbooks. I'm sure it would run things well. Windows 7
is a plus over XP I'd think.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220661 This unit
has wifi, Bluetooth, multi-touch screen, and 32GB SSD for just a bit over
$500. Only 1GB of RAM so it would probably be best to bump it up to 2GB but
that would be cheap.
The Bluetooth gps they have pictured on their site is this one:
http://www.buygpsnow.com/GlobalSat-BT-368i-SiRF-III-Bluetooth-GPS-Receiver-B
T368i_989.aspx which they don't list a separate price for just in the
bundle.
Just need to wait for SEA Avionics to have another "lifetime" sale!!
-Ben
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription
Doug,
JUST DO IT works for me. In fact I have already done it, but I went with an
LE1600 modified per the description on Tim's web site. I have about $700 and
an hour's time in the tablet pc with the ssd drive and memory upgrade. If
you can build an RV10 you will be able to do this upgrade. Makes for a very
quick and slick EFB. I am still learning my way around the Voyager software,
but agree it is great to have all charts on board. After years of updating
my Jepp charts, it is almost worth the cost of Voyager's lifetime
subscription just to have the auto-updates.
Jim Berry
40482
N15JB
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Subject: | Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription |
Everyone has been talking about voyager software. I've seen this company's
software around for a while as well. I have not used voyager or rms's
software but thought it would be worth a look for the sake of competition.
http://www.rmstek.com/index.php
I also just noticed that they sell their "bundle" with the asus netbook I
sent in the last link from newegg.
-ben
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Lifetime chart subscription
Doug,
JUST DO IT works for me. In fact I have already done it, but I went with an
LE1600 modified per the description on Tim's web site. I have about $700 and
an hour's time in the tablet pc with the ssd drive and memory upgrade. If
you can build an RV10 you will be able to do this upgrade. Makes for a very
quick and slick EFB. I am still learning my way around the Voyager software,
but agree it is great to have all charts on board. After years of updating
my Jepp charts, it is almost worth the cost of Voyager's lifetime
subscription just to have the auto-updates.
Jim Berry
40482
N15JB
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