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1. 12:15 AM - 2009 List of Contributors (Matt Dralle)
2. 10:21 AM - Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Jesse Saint)
3. 10:34 AM - AFS MP sensor (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
4. 10:45 AM - Re: windows & fiberglass (nukeflyboy)
5. 10:57 AM - Re: AFS MP sensor (Fred Williams, M.D.)
6. 11:19 AM - Re: AFS MP sensor (Don McDonald)
7. 11:35 AM - Re: Re: windows & fiberglass (Dave Saylor)
8. 12:20 PM - Re: AFS MP sensor (Dave Leikam)
9. 01:07 PM - Re: AFS MP sensor (Dave Leikam)
10. 03:30 PM - Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Lenny Iszak)
11. 08:03 PM - Short Video (Robin Marks)
12. 08:19 PM - Re: Short Video (Linn Walters)
13. 09:02 PM - Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Tim Olson)
14. 09:33 PM - Fw: Re: Door Hinges (Don McDonald)
15. 10:44 PM - Re: Short Video (Robin Marks)
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| Subject: | 2009 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2009 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its
the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible.
Their generous
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You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
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I also want to thank Bob, Jon, Andy, and John for their generous support through
the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and
I encourage you to visit their respective web sites:
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And finally, I'm proud to present The 2009 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
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Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
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| Subject: | Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
For those who have iPhones and were interested in the discussions
recently about EFB's, Foreflight just released version 3.0 that is a
free App with a subscription-based service. They are now able to cache
Approach Plates, VFR Charts and IFR Charts by state for use while
flying. The subscription is $70/year or $25/quarter. I personally
think it's a great option for an inexpensive EFB (or maybe a backup for
those who already have one). It is also a great way to check weather
and file a flight plan. I always file through Foreflight personally,
and love the quick access to radar and satellite imagery.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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Has anyone that is using the AFS Manifold Pressure transducer mounted it
on the engine side of the firewall? I'm sure it is made of materials suita
ble for the engine compartment and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to
me to run it to the passenger side if I don't need to.
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: windows & fiberglass |
Why on earth would you want to add cabosil to Weld-on? Do you have any data that
confirms that the adhesive strength won't be compromised?
Cabosil or milled glass fibers are added to epoxy for structural strength. That
means it is harder and stands up better to shear forces. It says nothing about
its adhesive abilities. You should assume that anything you add to the Weld-on
will decrease its adhesion. The same goes for micro balloons and epoxy.
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - FWF
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278467#278467
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| Subject: | Re: AFS MP sensor |
I mounted mine to the firewall. Used a free spot over on the rt side. No
problems.
Dr Fred
Hit 200 hrs this weekend. :)
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>
> Has anyone that is using the AFS Manifold Pressure transducer mounted
> it on the engine side of the firewall? Im sure it is made of
> materials suitable for the engine compartment and it doesnt make a
> whole lot of sense to me to run it to the passenger side if I dont
> need to.
>
> Michael
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: AFS MP sensor |
Fred, I'm exactly 100 hours behind you.....=C2- ditto to what Fred said,
engine side of the firewall, no problems.
Don McDonald
--- On Mon, 12/21/09, Fred Williams, M.D. <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote
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From: Fred Williams, M.D. <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFS MP sensor
il.com>
I mounted mine to the firewall. Used a free spot over on the rt side. No pr
oblems.
Dr Fred
Hit 200 hrs this weekend. :)
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
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> Has anyone that is using the AFS Manifold Pressure transducer mounted it
on the engine side of the firewall? I=99m sure it is made of material
s suitable for the engine compartment and it doesn=99t make a whole l
ot of sense to me to run it to the passenger side if I don=99t need t
o.
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> Michael
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| Subject: | Re: windows & fiberglass |
Mill fiber does add strength to pure resin, but Cab-O-Sil is only used to
thicken epoxies and other resins so they don't run and sag. It shouldn't
have any significant effect on adhesion. Here's a nice description:
http://www.eagerplastics.com/cab.htm
I haven't tested the mixture but I wouldn't hesitate using it in Weld-On to
bond the windows.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:45 AM, nukeflyboy <flymoore@charter.net> wrote:
>
> Why on earth would you want to add cabosil to Weld-on? Do you have any
> data that confirms that the adhesive strength won't be compromised?
>
> Cabosil or milled glass fibers are added to epoxy for structural strength.
> That means it is harder and stands up better to shear forces. It says
> nothing about its adhesive abilities. You should assume that anything you
> add to the Weld-on will decrease its adhesion. The same goes for micro
> balloons and epoxy.
>
> --------
> Dave Moore
> RV-6 flying
> RV-10 QB - FWF
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278467#278467
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: AFS MP sensor |
I recently spoke to Christer at Steinair and asked the same question
about mine for the G900x. He said it should be OK to mount in the third
port of the small sensor manifold used for the fuel pressure and oil
temp.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:30 PM
Subject: RV10-List: AFS MP sensor
Has anyone that is using the AFS Manifold Pressure transducer
mounted it on the engine side of the firewall? I'm sure it is made of
materials suitable for the engine compartment and it doesn't make a
whole lot of sense to me to run it to the passenger side if I don't need
to.
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: AFS MP sensor |
I meant oil pressure... Just should not be on the engine due to
vibration I believe.
Dave
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:30 PM
Subject: RV10-List: AFS MP sensor
Has anyone that is using the AFS Manifold Pressure transducer
mounted it on the engine side of the firewall? I'm sure it is made of
materials suitable for the engine compartment and it doesn't make a
whole lot of sense to me to run it to the passenger side if I don't need
to.
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
They have a 1 Year Plan, for loyal customers (I assume who owns version 2) for
$39.99. Which is a great price for this software.
Lenny
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278508#278508
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I posed a 2.5 minute video on N110EE arriving at SBP this afternoon. I
was coming back from LOP testing and decided to test my HD video camera.
I am not sure why the prop shows up in some videos and not in others.
Kind of annoying but a good break from pounding rivets. I left the audio
on to hear engine noise etc. The swaying left & right is NOT how it
seems when I am on approach. As this is a test video and not
extraordinary I do not plan to keep this posted for very long.
Note Pacific ocean in the distance. The mountains on the right are
called the 7 Sisters and are 7 extinct volcanoes. I live on the tallest
one.
Robin
Do Not Archive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRitkCDaSJU
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Robin, what did you use to capture the video?
I also noticed that when you were slowing to turn off the runway the bar
on the left did the 'flexible pencil' trick. I had the same 'problem'
using a Sony Handycam filming from the cockpit of my Pitts.
Also like your 'scimitar' prop!!! =-O
Linn
Robin Marks wrote:
>
> I posed a 2.5 minute video on N110EE arriving at SBP this afternoon. I
> was coming back from LOP testing and decided to test my HD video camera.
> I am not sure why the prop shows up in some videos and not in others.
> Kind of annoying but a good break from pounding rivets. I left the audio
> on to hear engine noise etc. The swaying left & right is NOT how it
> seems when I am on approach. As this is a test video and not
> extraordinary I do not plan to keep this posted for very long.
> Note Pacific ocean in the distance. The mountains on the right are
> called the 7 Sisters and are 7 extinct volcanoes. I live on the tallest
> one.
>
> Robin
> Do Not Archive
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRitkCDaSJU
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
I agree fully. I've used foreflight for nearing a year now I think, or
maybe 9 months or so. I like it so much that I think actually that
it's a big reason for a pilot to consider an iphone. One of the best
things is how much faster it is to bring up weather imagery for
planning. It's way nicer than trying to click through links on
websites and resize images for the screen. Yes, all of the info
they have is available in other apps, but nobody puts it together
like they do.
This week I downloaded 3.0. For being a "loyal customer" (anyone
who had 2.X before), it was $39.99 for this next year. I assume
from there on it'll be $70/yr. Yes, there are cheaper ways to do
things, but again, few will actually go together as nicely as well
written software. Most .pdf plate viewers are very clumsy to use
from a menu perspective....this is not. Today I took my first
long x/c flight using Foreflight 3.0 to file both IFR plan legs, and
I got to check out the chart functionality in flight. I find
that it's probably the nicest way to file a flight plan that
there is....and when you file, you receive a great email full
briefing that you can then carry with you instead of that
32 page packet of paper. It's all there..NOTAMS and all.
With 3.0 they added GPS integrated IFR low/high charts, and VFR
sectionals. I tracked myself for a while using both and it
was very accurate. When I approached some restricted airspace,
I could peek at the chart and I queried ATC as to the status
and all was quiet. The new Download manager makes it easy to
cache all the approach plates for each state/region, and the
same for IFR low, and sectionals, and airport diagrams. It's
not the fastest or perhaps best organized download manager in
the world, but it's much better than the 2.x versions were,
and the GPS integrated charts are fantastic. Skycharts isn't
a bad app either, but with this version of foreflight, I now
see no reason to use skycharts. Skycharts was not nearly as good
at dealing with approach plates (I don't think it cached them
until you actually viewed the plate), and they don't have IFR
maps. I will probably delete that app now, because this one
just blew it away. In talking to tech support at foreflight
with feature requests, I know they spent a lot of their
time in perfecting their maps to be smooth and they certainly
did a good job.
I can't go as far as saying it's an inexpensive EFB, but it
comes closer than anything else I've seen. I also have
WingX, which has a terrain equipped GPS, but that app really
stinks from a menu/useability standpoint compared to Foreflight
3.0....so the only real nice thing is the GPS, and that isn't
as nice as a handheld GPS. Once Foreflight or someone else
comes up with a great Garmin handheld type in-flight GPS,
I think that app will be a must-have addition. It's the one
thing lacking. That's one of the areas where EFB's like
Voyager start to pull away from something like foreflight.
Really, Foreflight on an iphone does much of what I'd need
for everyday IFR flights...the easier ones where I'm going to
familiar places. But, I have no problems reading a small screen,
either. For many pilots (the average pilot age is over 50 BTW),
the iphone might not be practical to use for things like
approach plates, or many of the other functions....certainly
not when you really need that info badly. Voyager adds things
like a better route planning system, a weight and balance planning
system, wind integrated route and altitude planning, a truely
wonderful in-flight GPS, that allows nice routing and the normal
Bearing/heading/course/trk/speed/ete/eta blah blah blah stuff
that a good GPS would have, and they integrate it with every
possible chart you would likely want. And, it's run on a
slightly larger platform, so it's visible for most any pilot.
Considering all the things it does, I think it's also a great
deal. I just saw one product that had chart subscriptions,
I think it was just jepp approach plates, and they were calling
it a bargain at 700/yr for a subscription....Voyager when it was
on sale was less than that for a lifetime. For me, I like
sitting at the PC with Voyager when I want to plan a flight,
because it will let me plan from Wisconsin to Oregon or
Nevada, or wherever, and it will keep me away from airspace,
from terrain, and everything else. And, with fuel price
integration it really is what you need to do a nice plan to an
unfamiliar place. For this flight that I did today though,
I just needed to doublecheck my fuel prices for a fuel
stop, but knew the route well, so I didn't use all of voyager's
features...I just popped it into the iphone and in seconds
I had the plan filed. Today's flight was an iphone/Foreflight
type flight for me.
So there are many ways to skin cats, but those two things are
what I have found to be the best for flight planning and filing.
Both are actively developed and improved, which is another reason
their cost is worth it....I hate buying computer software that
could use more features but isn't actively developed because
the person isn't making enough money at it to justify their
hard work.
Oh, and a side note.....if you jailbreak an iphone or ipod touch,
there are lots of other options that you can have with them.
For instance, my wife has an ipod touch. We got foreflight
3.0 for her too (which is one of my complaints...it used to
be free for my 2nd ipod, but the new user model they have ties
it to the device, so I pay twice to have it for 2 devices).
But anyway, most people would think an ipod touch wouldn't
be a good option for them because it has no GPS. With a
jailbroken ipod touch, I was able to install a 3rd party
GPS bluetooth stack that connects to the same Holux m1000
(and other) bluetooth GPS's like I have. She was able to
track our flight on a VFR/IFR chart too, with an external
GPS. So lots of options there.
One thing about doing all of this stuff on an iphone...you
do NOT want to skimp when you buy...get the 32GB one. A full
install of Foreflight with all the charts is over 5GB.
I have 16GB or more of music. I've got a 32GB 3GS, and
I'm down to about 5GB free. So consider 32GB a minimum
for any EFB, and if you're buying an iphone/pod, stick to
the larger ones too.
I'm pretty pumped about the functionality all these things can
give for such small cost. I do plan to do a more complete
write-up comparison with pro's and con's in the near term
future. I know every time something like this comes up
there are dozens of folks talking about their favorite,
or their cheaper way to do things, but each one has an up
and a downside, and cheapest isn't always what people need.
For instance, some things only do approach plates, but you
really want IFR/VFR charts, too. Skimping on necessary
info for planning a safe flight can have consequences, and it's
nice to know what the good and bad of various things are. I've
tried many from the cheap approach plate CD's, to the CD's
with some large charts on them, and various ways of doing
EFB's. I've learned a lot about what doesn't work so well,
which is why some of this stuff that does is so exciting.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
Jesse Saint wrote:
> For those who have iPhones and were interested in the discussions
> recently about EFB's, Foreflight just released version 3.0 that is a
> free App with a subscription-based service. They are now able to cache
> Approach Plates, VFR Charts and IFR Charts by state for use while
> flying. The subscription is $70/year or $25/quarter. I personally
> think it's a great option for an inexpensive EFB (or maybe a backup for
> those who already have one). It is also a great way to check weather
> and file a flight plan. I always file through Foreflight personally,
> and love the quick access to radar and satellite imagery.
>
> do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
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Here's the brackets after paint.
--- On Sun, 12/20/09, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges
I made up about 40 sets of these.... because it was just as easy to make 40
as it was 4.- I had them painted prior to installation... that way the h
inges underneath were also totally painted.- Don't have any pics of what
they look like afterward.... maybe I'll shoot those tomorrow.- If anybody
wants a set of 4, let me know....send me an address... cost... $20 includi
ng shipping.... again not trying to make money here, just get some parts ou
t there to my fellow 10 guys.
Damn this planbe is fun to fly.
Don McDonald
Broke the 100 hour mark this weekend.
--- On Sun, 12/20/09, Roxanne and Mike Lefever <roxianmike@msn.com> wrote:
From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever <roxianmike@msn.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges
Thanks!
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From: rv10builder@verizon.net
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Hinges
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I recall that that I needed to flip the hinges, basically the high end goes
on the-back end-of the front hinge and the forward end-of the back h
inge.
Don MacDonald makes the plates. They are very nice.
P
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From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:10 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Door Hinges
I finished making the doors today and assembled the hinges. I notice that t
he hinges(the half for the cabin; and the half for the door) are not on the
same planes, nor even parallel planes...................looking at the pla
ns there no mention of this and which may be appropriate for the fore and a
ft........Anyone have advise on which to put in each location?
-
Moreover, while the welds look fine, the hinges aren't very attractive and
the hinge intersections will be visible.- Is there anyone producing any a
ftermarket replacement......hopefully machined?
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I used a cool RAM suction mount (new style with twist leaver) and Sony
Webbie. With the new, free Windows Movie Maker Live and Google's YouTube
it is seamless. I actually filmed this upside down and can invert a
whole video with a simple click. I remember when it took most of my
resources to rotate a photo.
The 1080P Webbie is this one ($129.00):
I expect to take better more vibrant videos in better lighting
conditions. This was 15 minutes prior to rain (in CA no less!).
Robin
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