RV10-List Digest Archive

Tue 12/22/09


Total Messages Posted: 29



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:05 AM - Re: Fw: Re: Door Hinges (Kelly McMullen)
     2. 06:53 AM - Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Jesse Saint)
     3. 06:53 AM - Re: Fw: Re: Door Hinges (Linn Walters)
     4. 07:32 AM - Re: Door Hinges (Roxanne and Mike Lefever)
     5. 07:33 AM - Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Tim Olson)
     6. 08:38 AM - plasma cutter (JHearnsberger)
     7. 08:52 AM - Re: Door Hinges (pilotdds@aol.com)
     8. 09:06 AM - Re: plasma cutter (Linn Walters)
     9. 09:15 AM - Re: plasma cutter (JHearnsberger)
    10. 09:29 AM - Re: plasma cutter (tsts4)
    11. 09:35 AM - Re: Re: plasma cutter (Linn Walters)
    12. 09:40 AM - Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems (Perry, Phil)
    13. 09:45 AM - Re: Fw: Re: Door Hinges (Don McDonald)
    14. 09:59 AM - Re: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems (Linn Walters)
    15. 10:34 AM - Re: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems (John Strain)
    16. 11:03 AM - Re: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems (Michael Kraus)
    17. 11:38 AM - Re: windows & fiberglass (nukeflyboy)
    18. 12:49 PM - Re: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems (gary)
    19. 12:52 PM - Re: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems (Perry, Phil)
    20. 01:46 PM - Re: Short Video (Perry, Phil)
    21. 02:02 PM - Re: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems (Geoff Combs)
    22. 02:31 PM - Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Scott Schmidt)
    23. 03:05 PM - Re: plasma cutter (Richard Bibb)
    24. 03:33 PM - Re: Short Video (Robin Marks)
    25. 04:59 PM - Re: plasma cutter (Bob Turner)
    26. 05:40 PM - Tumbling aluminum (Strasnuts)
    27. 06:29 PM - Re: plasma cutter (Roxanne and Mike Lefever)
    28. 06:56 PM - Re: Tumbling aluminum (Perry, Phil)
    29. 07:02 PM - Re: Re: plasma cutter (Linn Walters)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:05:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Door Hinges
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Hmm, not sure you sent the pics you intended..they are the same images as your first message. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Here's the brackets after paint. > > --- On Sun, 12/20/09, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> wrote: > > From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 10:37 PM > > I made up about 40 sets of these.... because it was just as easy to make 40 as it was 4. I had them painted prior to installation... that way the hinges underneath were also totally painted. Don't have any pics of what they look like afterward.... maybe I'll shoot those tomorrow. If anybody wants a set of 4, let me know....send me an address... cost... $20 including shipping.... again not trying to make money here, just get some parts out there to my fellow 10 guys. > Damn this planbe is fun to fly. > Don McDonald > Broke the 100 hour mark this weekend. > > -


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    Time: 06:53:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    One nice thing that SkyCharts does, though, is give you a visual of what weather is doing at airports on the chart. It paints dots on the map wherever there is a METAR and colors the dots according to the status (VFR, MVFR, IFR or LIFR), and you can just tap on the dot to see the details. That is a really nice visual check while on the ground without access to a computer. I've suggested that to Foreflight, so hopefully I will also be able to delete SkyCharts in the near future. It does, however, cache the approach plates for the whole Sectional if you select that option in the settings. For some it might not be a useable EFB, but for me it works just fine. I always print a couple of plates for my destination and at least one alternate, as well as the AOPA kneeboard info sheet, but I know I have everything on the iPhone, which is always with me. Another nice App that I like for a quick review of METARs for my "favorites" is AeroWeather. It is much faster than Foreflight to really quickly check the METARs at airports that you check regularly, but does not go much beyond that. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > I agree fully. I've used foreflight for nearing a year now I think, or maybe 9 months or so. I like it so much that I think actually that > it's a big reason for a pilot to consider an iphone. One of the best > things is how much faster it is to bring up weather imagery for > planning. It's way nicer than trying to click through links on > websites and resize images for the screen. Yes, all of the info > they have is available in other apps, but nobody puts it together > like they do. > > This week I downloaded 3.0. For being a "loyal customer" (anyone > who had 2.X before), it was $39.99 for this next year. I assume > from there on it'll be $70/yr. Yes, there are cheaper ways to do > things, but again, few will actually go together as nicely as well > written software. Most .pdf plate viewers are very clumsy to use > from a menu perspective....this is not. Today I took my first > long x/c flight using Foreflight 3.0 to file both IFR plan legs, and > I got to check out the chart functionality in flight. I find > that it's probably the nicest way to file a flight plan that > there is....and when you file, you receive a great email full > briefing that you can then carry with you instead of that > 32 page packet of paper. It's all there..NOTAMS and all. > With 3.0 they added GPS integrated IFR low/high charts, and VFR > sectionals. I tracked myself for a while using both and it > was very accurate. When I approached some restricted airspace, > I could peek at the chart and I queried ATC as to the status > and all was quiet. The new Download manager makes it easy to > cache all the approach plates for each state/region, and the > same for IFR low, and sectionals, and airport diagrams. It's > not the fastest or perhaps best organized download manager in > the world, but it's much better than the 2.x versions were, > and the GPS integrated charts are fantastic. Skycharts isn't > a bad app either, but with this version of foreflight, I now > see no reason to use skycharts. Skycharts was not nearly as good > at dealing with approach plates (I don't think it cached them > until you actually viewed the plate), and they don't have IFR > maps. I will probably delete that app now, because this one > just blew it away. In talking to tech support at foreflight > with feature requests, I know they spent a lot of their > time in perfecting their maps to be smooth and they certainly > did a good job. > > I can't go as far as saying it's an inexpensive EFB, but it > comes closer than anything else I've seen. I also have > WingX, which has a terrain equipped GPS, but that app really > stinks from a menu/useability standpoint compared to Foreflight > 3.0....so the only real nice thing is the GPS, and that isn't > as nice as a handheld GPS. Once Foreflight or someone else > comes up with a great Garmin handheld type in-flight GPS, > I think that app will be a must-have addition. It's the one > thing lacking. That's one of the areas where EFB's like > Voyager start to pull away from something like foreflight. > Really, Foreflight on an iphone does much of what I'd need > for everyday IFR flights...the easier ones where I'm going to > familiar places. But, I have no problems reading a small screen, > either. For many pilots (the average pilot age is over 50 BTW), > the iphone might not be practical to use for things like > approach plates, or many of the other functions....certainly > not when you really need that info badly. Voyager adds things > like a better route planning system, a weight and balance planning > system, wind integrated route and altitude planning, a truely > wonderful in-flight GPS, that allows nice routing and the normal > Bearing/heading/course/trk/speed/ete/eta blah blah blah stuff > that a good GPS would have, and they integrate it with every > possible chart you would likely want. And, it's run on a > slightly larger platform, so it's visible for most any pilot. > Considering all the things it does, I think it's also a great > deal. I just saw one product that had chart subscriptions, > I think it was just jepp approach plates, and they were calling > it a bargain at 700/yr for a subscription....Voyager when it was > on sale was less than that for a lifetime. For me, I like > sitting at the PC with Voyager when I want to plan a flight, > because it will let me plan from Wisconsin to Oregon or > Nevada, or wherever, and it will keep me away from airspace, > from terrain, and everything else. And, with fuel price > integration it really is what you need to do a nice plan to an > unfamiliar place. For this flight that I did today though, > I just needed to doublecheck my fuel prices for a fuel > stop, but knew the route well, so I didn't use all of voyager's > features...I just popped it into the iphone and in seconds > I had the plan filed. Today's flight was an iphone/Foreflight > type flight for me. > > So there are many ways to skin cats, but those two things are > what I have found to be the best for flight planning and filing. > Both are actively developed and improved, which is another reason > their cost is worth it....I hate buying computer software that > could use more features but isn't actively developed because > the person isn't making enough money at it to justify their > hard work. > > Oh, and a side note.....if you jailbreak an iphone or ipod touch, > there are lots of other options that you can have with them. > For instance, my wife has an ipod touch. We got foreflight > 3.0 for her too (which is one of my complaints...it used to > be free for my 2nd ipod, but the new user model they have ties > it to the device, so I pay twice to have it for 2 devices). > But anyway, most people would think an ipod touch wouldn't > be a good option for them because it has no GPS. With a > jailbroken ipod touch, I was able to install a 3rd party > GPS bluetooth stack that connects to the same Holux m1000 > (and other) bluetooth GPS's like I have. She was able to > track our flight on a VFR/IFR chart too, with an external > GPS. So lots of options there. > > One thing about doing all of this stuff on an iphone...you > do NOT want to skimp when you buy...get the 32GB one. A full > install of Foreflight with all the charts is over 5GB. > I have 16GB or more of music. I've got a 32GB 3GS, and > I'm down to about 5GB free. So consider 32GB a minimum > for any EFB, and if you're buying an iphone/pod, stick to > the larger ones too. > > I'm pretty pumped about the functionality all these things can > give for such small cost. I do plan to do a more complete > write-up comparison with pro's and con's in the near term > future. I know every time something like this comes up > there are dozens of folks talking about their favorite, > or their cheaper way to do things, but each one has an up > and a downside, and cheapest isn't always what people need. > For instance, some things only do approach plates, but you > really want IFR/VFR charts, too. Skimping on necessary > info for planning a safe flight can have consequences, and it's > nice to know what the good and bad of various things are. I've > tried many from the cheap approach plate CD's, to the CD's > with some large charts on them, and various ways of doing > EFB's. I've learned a lot about what doesn't work so well, > which is why some of this stuff that does is so exciting. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > > > > Jesse Saint wrote: >> For those who have iPhones and were interested in the discussions recently about EFB's, Foreflight just released version 3.0 that is a free App with a subscription-based service. They are now able to cache Approach Plates, VFR Charts and IFR Charts by state for use while flying. The subscription is $70/year or $25/quarter. I personally think it's a great option for an inexpensive EFB (or maybe a backup for those who already have one). It is also a great way to check weather and file a flight plan. I always file through Foreflight personally, and love the quick access to radar and satellite imagery. >> do not archive >> Jesse Saint > > > >


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    Time: 06:53:41 AM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Door Hinges
    These pics got me to thinking ..... actually a bad idea :-P So what's the downside to glassing over the hinge on the top? Why would you need to remove the hinge from the top when you can remove the door? A thin cover glassed over the top side could be removed easily if/when it became necessary. Anyone done that??? As a side question: Any of the flying guys seen rust from the hinges??? What do you do to prevent it?? Comments anyone??? Linn Here's the brackets after paint. --- On *Sun, 12/20/09, Don McDonald /<building_partner@yahoo.com>/* wrote: From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges


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    Time: 07:32:55 AM PST US
    From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever <roxianmike@msn.com>
    Subject: Door Hinges
    Assuming no better idea comes along=2C I think I will powdercoat for appear ance and preservation.......then remove the coat from the moving surfaces.. .......and glass over the interior and extior hinge base. From: pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: Fw: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges These pics got me to thinking ..... actually a bad idea :-P So what's the downside to glassing over the hinge on the top? Why would yo u need to remove the hinge from the top when you can remove the door? A th in cover glassed over the top side could be removed easily if/when it becam e necessary. Anyone done that??? As a side question: Any of the flying guys seen rust from the hinges??? W hat do you do to prevent it?? Comments anyone??? Linn Here's the brackets after paint. --- On Sun=2C 12/20/09=2C Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges


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    Time: 07:33:10 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
    True, the weather dots were nice if you like that. I didn't use it because it slowed the map load down too much, so unless that's what you plan to use it for, it wasn't an easy on/off button on the main screen so it wasn't convenient to toggle. I know it has the option to cache charts, but a quick test I did once (I maybe should try it again) a couple weeks ago, showed that it didn't cache it for totally offline use unless I had viewed the chart. i.e. I don't think it auto-predownloaded them. But, either way, considering how foreflight is now, I would disable that option in skycharts anyway...no sense wasting space on 2 apps caching charts. Foreflight at least at one time made their app so that if your iphone timed out, and you re-opened it, it would bring you immediately back to the approach plate too, which is nice. I don't know if you can do that with skycharts. Aeroweather is good too, and i used to use NavMonster web link, which wasn't bad. There is a definite difference in what apps are best when you are talking doing a local flight, or a long x/c flight, and how much on-device planning you want to do. For local flights or short there-and-backs, it's simple to do it basically 100% by iphone. For a route like Wisconsin to Vegas Via Salt Lake City, I haven't really found anything on the iphone that does the job of a full flight planner/EFB. You need fuel prices, approach info, charts, terrain and mountain clearance info, and much more than you can get on the iphone right now. But, once you take off, with the plan made up, the iphone can handle 99% of the tasks for those with the eyes to see it. Some of this depends on if you get in-flight coverage, too. Most areas I fly have no data coverage in the air. And of course, with a full real EFB you have options to connect XM weather, too. If you could get realtime inflight weather on an iphone, that would be pretty sweet. Each tool has it's use, and some will need more than others. It all depends on the needs. Tim Jesse Saint wrote: > <jesse@saintaviation.com> > > One nice thing that SkyCharts does, though, is give you a visual of > what weather is doing at airports on the chart. It paints dots on > the map wherever there is a METAR and colors the dots according to > the status (VFR, MVFR, IFR or LIFR), and you can just tap on the dot > to see the details. That is a really nice visual check while on the > ground without access to a computer. I've suggested that to > Foreflight, so hopefully I will also be able to delete SkyCharts in > the near future. It does, however, cache the approach plates for the > whole Sectional if you select that option in the settings. > > For some it might not be a useable EFB, but for me it works just > fine. I always print a couple of plates for my destination and at > least one alternate, as well as the AOPA kneeboard info sheet, but I > know I have everything on the iPhone, which is always with me. > > Another nice App that I like for a quick review of METARs for my > "favorites" is AeroWeather. It is much faster than Foreflight to > really quickly check the METARs at airports that you check regularly, > but does not go much beyond that. > > Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: > 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 > > On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > >> >> I agree fully. I've used foreflight for nearing a year now I >> think, or maybe 9 months or so. I like it so much that I think >> actually that it's a big reason for a pilot to consider an iphone. >> One of the best things is how much faster it is to bring up weather >> imagery for planning. It's way nicer than trying to click through >> links on websites and resize images for the screen. Yes, all of >> the info they have is available in other apps, but nobody puts it >> together like they do. >> >> This week I downloaded 3.0. For being a "loyal customer" (anyone >> who had 2.X before), it was $39.99 for this next year. I assume >> from there on it'll be $70/yr. Yes, there are cheaper ways to do >> things, but again, few will actually go together as nicely as well >> written software. Most .pdf plate viewers are very clumsy to use >> from a menu perspective....this is not. Today I took my first long >> x/c flight using Foreflight 3.0 to file both IFR plan legs, and I >> got to check out the chart functionality in flight. I find that >> it's probably the nicest way to file a flight plan that there >> is....and when you file, you receive a great email full briefing >> that you can then carry with you instead of that 32 page packet of >> paper. It's all there..NOTAMS and all. With 3.0 they added GPS >> integrated IFR low/high charts, and VFR sectionals. I tracked >> myself for a while using both and it was very accurate. When I >> approached some restricted airspace, I could peek at the chart and >> I queried ATC as to the status and all was quiet. The new Download >> manager makes it easy to cache all the approach plates for each >> state/region, and the same for IFR low, and sectionals, and airport >> diagrams. It's not the fastest or perhaps best organized download >> manager in the world, but it's much better than the 2.x versions >> were, and the GPS integrated charts are fantastic. Skycharts isn't >> a bad app either, but with this version of foreflight, I now see >> no reason to use skycharts. Skycharts was not nearly as good at >> dealing with approach plates (I don't think it cached them until >> you actually viewed the plate), and they don't have IFR maps. I >> will probably delete that app now, because this one just blew it >> away. In talking to tech support at foreflight with feature >> requests, I know they spent a lot of their time in perfecting their >> maps to be smooth and they certainly did a good job. >> >> I can't go as far as saying it's an inexpensive EFB, but it comes >> closer than anything else I've seen. I also have WingX, which has >> a terrain equipped GPS, but that app really stinks from a >> menu/useability standpoint compared to Foreflight 3.0....so the >> only real nice thing is the GPS, and that isn't as nice as a >> handheld GPS. Once Foreflight or someone else comes up with a >> great Garmin handheld type in-flight GPS, I think that app will be >> a must-have addition. It's the one thing lacking. That's one of >> the areas where EFB's like Voyager start to pull away from >> something like foreflight. Really, Foreflight on an iphone does >> much of what I'd need for everyday IFR flights...the easier ones >> where I'm going to familiar places. But, I have no problems >> reading a small screen, either. For many pilots (the average pilot >> age is over 50 BTW), the iphone might not be practical to use for >> things like approach plates, or many of the other >> functions....certainly not when you really need that info badly. >> Voyager adds things like a better route planning system, a weight >> and balance planning system, wind integrated route and altitude >> planning, a truely wonderful in-flight GPS, that allows nice >> routing and the normal Bearing/heading/course/trk/speed/ete/eta >> blah blah blah stuff that a good GPS would have, and they integrate >> it with every possible chart you would likely want. And, it's run >> on a slightly larger platform, so it's visible for most any pilot. >> Considering all the things it does, I think it's also a great deal. >> I just saw one product that had chart subscriptions, I think it was >> just jepp approach plates, and they were calling it a bargain at >> 700/yr for a subscription....Voyager when it was on sale was less >> than that for a lifetime. For me, I like sitting at the PC with >> Voyager when I want to plan a flight, because it will let me plan >> from Wisconsin to Oregon or Nevada, or wherever, and it will keep >> me away from airspace, from terrain, and everything else. And, >> with fuel price integration it really is what you need to do a nice >> plan to an unfamiliar place. For this flight that I did today >> though, I just needed to doublecheck my fuel prices for a fuel >> stop, but knew the route well, so I didn't use all of voyager's >> features...I just popped it into the iphone and in seconds I had >> the plan filed. Today's flight was an iphone/Foreflight type >> flight for me. >> >> So there are many ways to skin cats, but those two things are what >> I have found to be the best for flight planning and filing. Both >> are actively developed and improved, which is another reason their >> cost is worth it....I hate buying computer software that could use >> more features but isn't actively developed because the person isn't >> making enough money at it to justify their hard work. >> >> Oh, and a side note.....if you jailbreak an iphone or ipod touch, >> there are lots of other options that you can have with them. For >> instance, my wife has an ipod touch. We got foreflight 3.0 for her >> too (which is one of my complaints...it used to be free for my 2nd >> ipod, but the new user model they have ties it to the device, so I >> pay twice to have it for 2 devices). But anyway, most people would >> think an ipod touch wouldn't be a good option for them because it >> has no GPS. With a jailbroken ipod touch, I was able to install a >> 3rd party GPS bluetooth stack that connects to the same Holux m1000 >> (and other) bluetooth GPS's like I have. She was able to track >> our flight on a VFR/IFR chart too, with an external GPS. So lots >> of options there. >> >> One thing about doing all of this stuff on an iphone...you do NOT >> want to skimp when you buy...get the 32GB one. A full install of >> Foreflight with all the charts is over 5GB. I have 16GB or more of >> music. I've got a 32GB 3GS, and I'm down to about 5GB free. So >> consider 32GB a minimum for any EFB, and if you're buying an >> iphone/pod, stick to the larger ones too. >> >> I'm pretty pumped about the functionality all these things can give >> for such small cost. I do plan to do a more complete write-up >> comparison with pro's and con's in the near term future. I know >> every time something like this comes up there are dozens of folks >> talking about their favorite, or their cheaper way to do things, >> but each one has an up and a downside, and cheapest isn't always >> what people need. For instance, some things only do approach >> plates, but you really want IFR/VFR charts, too. Skimping on >> necessary info for planning a safe flight can have consequences, >> and it's nice to know what the good and bad of various things are. >> I've tried many from the cheap approach plate CD's, to the CD's >> with some large charts on them, and various ways of doing EFB's. >> I've learned a lot about what doesn't work so well, which is why >> some of this stuff that does is so exciting. >> >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >> >> >> >> Jesse Saint wrote: >>> For those who have iPhones and were interested in the discussions >>> recently about EFB's, Foreflight just released version 3.0 that >>> is a free App with a subscription-based service. They are now >>> able to cache Approach Plates, VFR Charts and IFR Charts by state >>> for use while flying. The subscription is $70/year or >>> $25/quarter. I personally think it's a great option for an >>> inexpensive EFB (or maybe a backup for those who already have >>> one). It is also a great way to check weather and file a flight >>> plan. I always file through Foreflight personally, and love the >>> quick access to radar and satellite imagery. do not archive Jesse >>> Saint >> >> >> > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:38:58 AM PST US
    Subject: plasma cutter
    From: "JHearnsberger" <jakehearnsberger@gmail.com>
    Would there be anything wrong with using a plasma cutter for trimming? I am just starting a RV-10 Empennage. Thanks, Jake Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278576#278576


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    Time: 08:52:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Door Hinges
    From: pilotdds@aol.com
    Don I would love a set-thanks jim -----Original Message----- From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 10:37 pm Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges I made up about 40 sets of these.... because it was just as easy to make 40 as it was 4. I had them painted prior to installation... that way the hinges underneath were also totally painted. Don't have any pics of what they look like afterward.... maybe I'll shoot those tomorrow. If anybody wants a set of 4, let me know....send me an address... cost... $20 includ ing shipping.... again not trying to make money here, just get some parts out there to my fellow 10 guys. Damn this planbe is fun to fly. Don McDonald Broke the 100 hour mark this weekend. --- On Sun, 12/20/09, Roxanne and Mike Lefever <roxianmike@msn.com> wrote: From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever <roxianmike@msn.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges Thanks! From: rv10builder@verizon.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Hinges I recall that that I needed to flip the hinges, basically the high end goe s on the back end of the front hinge and the forward end of the back hinge . Don MacDonald makes the plates. They are very nice. P From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: RV10-List: Door Hinges I finished making the doors today and assembled the hinges. I notice that the hinges(the half for the cabin; and the half for the door) are not on the same planes, nor even parallel planes...................looking at th e plans there no mention of this and which may be appropriate for the fore and aft........Anyone have advise on which to put in each location? Moreover, while the welds look fine, the hinges aren't very attractive and the hinge intersections will be visible. Is there anyone producing any aftermarket replacement......hopefully machined? Mike Lefever RV-10 "finish" kit href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com ref="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com ref="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com ref="http://www.howtocrimp.com">www.howtocrimp.com ref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chr ef="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV10-List ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com lectric.com ">www.buildersbooks.com builthelp.com .com w.matronics.com/contribution tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List onics.com _blank rel=nofollow>www.aeroelectric.com " target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.buildersbooks.com _blank rel=nofollow>www.homebuilthelp.com k rel=nofollow>www.howtocrimp.com lank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution et=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 09:06:22 AM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: plasma cutter
    I wouldn't say 'wrong'. You can cut most anything that's electrically conductive with a plasma cutter. But, you'd be just as well off to use an ax. Linn JHearnsberger wrote: > > Would there be anything wrong with using a plasma cutter for trimming? I am just starting a RV-10 Empennage. > > Thanks, > > Jake > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278576#278576 > > >


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    Time: 09:15:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: plasma cutter
    From: "JHearnsberger" <jakehearnsberger@gmail.com>
    Should I stick to the band saw for all of my cutting? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278580#278580


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    Time: 09:29:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: plasma cutter
    From: "tsts4" <tsts4@verizon.net>
    Well, there's usually more than one way to perform any building task, but there's also usually a way that gives the best results and/or is the easiest to get the task done. I pick the tool that gets me what I want. A lot of times that is the band saw, other times it's a cutoff wheel in a die grinder (I also use a small wheel in a Dremel for fine cuts). I have also used a nibbler and shears. Bottom line, use whatever it takes to get the job done. For my money, the saw and a cutoff wheel will handle pretty much all off your cutting tasks. -------- Todd Stovall 728TT (reserved) RV-10 Empacone, Wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278581#278581


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    Time: 09:35:22 AM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: plasma cutter
    Sooo much better! The best advice I can offer is to use the proper tool for the job ..... and use it properly. Trimming aluminum may involve the bandsaw; left, right, and straight 'aviation tin snips'; files of all types and sandpaper .... belt sanders and disc sanders. Linn JHearnsberger wrote: > > Should I stick to the band saw for all of my cutting? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278580#278580 > > >


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    Time: 09:40:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems
    From: "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
    I'm creating some block diagrams and ultimately schematics of my electrical system and I'm planning a Dual ALT/Single BAT system. Is there way to get each ALT running on independent belts? Or is a single belt the only option? Worst case scenario, I'll use the SD-20. Thanks, Phil


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    Time: 09:45:03 AM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Door Hinges
    --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Fw: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges These pics got me to thinking ..... actually a bad idea :-P-- WHY???? So what's the downside to glassing over the hinge on the top?- Why would you need to remove the hinge from the top when you can remove the door?- A thin cover glassed over the top side could be removed easily if/when it b ecame necessary.- Anyone done that??? As a side question:- Any of the flying guys seen rust from the hinges??? - What do you do to prevent it??--- Paint Them Comments anyone??? Linn Here's the brackets after paint. --- On Sun, 12/20/09, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 09:59:59 AM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems
    Perry, Phil wrote: > > I'm creating some block diagrams and ultimately schematics of my > electrical system and I'm planning a Dual ALT/Single BAT system. > Why dual ALT and only one battery? The failure rate for batteries is far greater than the ALT. > > Is there way to get each ALT running on independent belts? Or is a > single belt the only option? > You can get a flywheel with two pulley grooves ..... but mounting the second ALT is probably going to be terribly time-consuming. > > Worst case scenario, I'll use the SD-20. > Much quicker and neater installation and utilizes a useless (for many) accessory pad. IMHO, an electrical system with one battery (kept in good condition), one ALT, an essential buss and a buss for everything else makes a pretty good electrical system. Most of our panels can draw from an average condition battery long enough to get you safely to a nearby airport. I'm a big fan of KISS (not the rock group! :-P ) and building light. Linn > > > Thanks, > > Phil > > > > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 10:34:10 AM PST US
    From: "John Strain" <aircarepros@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems
    Phil, Flightline AC uses 2 belts. One for the alternator and one for the compressor. RDD has 2 belt systems also using the same ring gear. Part number for ring gear is LW10184 for both companies. It works with or w/o Lightspeed ignition. RDD has a multiple left side alternator system (meaning various manufacturers of the 60 amp variety). Check them out at www.rddent.com. They have multiple options for the 10 also that may interest some. We are a supply rep for some of their products. John Strain Flightline AC, Inc 541-330-5466 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:36 AM Subject: RV10-List: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems I'm creating some block diagrams and ultimately schematics of my electrical system and I'm planning a Dual ALT/Single BAT system. Is there way to get each ALT running on independent belts? Or is a single belt the only option? Worst case scenario, I'll use the SD-20. Thanks, Phil


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    Time: 11:03:44 AM PST US
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    Subject: Re: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems
    I have a dual pulley flywheel for a Lycoming 540 if anyone wants/needs one. Make an offer -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:35 PM, "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com> wrote: > I=99m creating some block diagrams and ultimately schematics of my ele > ctrical system and I=99m planning a Dual ALT/Single BAT system. > > > Is there way to get each ALT running on independent belts? Or is a > single belt the only option? > > > Worst case scenario, I=99ll use the SD-20. > > > Thanks, > > Phil > >


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    Time: 11:38:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: windows & fiberglass
    From: "nukeflyboy" <flymoore@charter.net>
    Dave, Maybe defining my terms helps the communication. By adhesion I mean how well the weld-on (or epoxy or whatever) bonds to the original substrate. To work it must chemically combine to provide good adhesion. By strength I mean how well the adhesive holds up to compressive, tensile, or shear forces. Adding cabosil or glass fibers add strength. The goo is much harder when it cures. However they must decrease the adhesive ability because the fibers do not chemically combine with the substrate. That means less surface area for the weld-on to bond with the plexi or fiberglass because there are fibers in the way. It is important for good adhesion in this application, not so much for strength. If you use micro balloons then you lose both adhesion and strength. It may be that the loss of adhesion is insignificant with cabosil added; I can't tell from the technical note linked in your reply. But you know this stuff better than I and I defer to your opinion. -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - FWF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278596#278596


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    Time: 12:49:20 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems
    I got a flywheel from an aircraft that had air conditioning with dual belts and added a bracket and altinator below the prop governor. I don't have pix though. Gary Specketer _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:36 PM Subject: RV10-List: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems I'm creating some block diagrams and ultimately schematics of my electrical system and I'm planning a Dual ALT/Single BAT system. Is there way to get each ALT running on independent belts? Or is a single belt the only option? Worst case scenario, I'll use the SD-20. Thanks, Phil


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    Time: 12:52:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems
    From: "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
    Thanks everyone. As long as I know it's possible, that's all I need at this point. Phil From: Perry, Phil Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: RV10-List: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems I'm creating some block diagrams and ultimately schematics of my electrical system and I'm planning a Dual ALT/Single BAT system. Is there way to get each ALT running on independent belts? Or is a single belt the only option? Worst case scenario, I'll use the SD-20. Thanks, Phil


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    Time: 01:46:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Short Video
    From: "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
    I picked up a JVC model GC-FM1 for my wife for Christmas. We're expecting our first baby in a few months and thought this would be a good tool to keep in her purse. It films in High Def 1080p, 720p, VGA, and CVGA. Earlier today, I pulled it out of the box and charged it so we could use it to record our nieces on Christmas day. I think it shows some of the same traits as the Sony Webbie. My guess is that it's the digital image stabilization causing the effects. Here a quick video I shot and uploaded in High Def (1080p). Just by moving the camera from left to right, I'm seeing some strange behaviors too. It has to be the stabilization. You should click on HD to make sure you get the full effect of the image fracturing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcjiah3NFgA Haven't had a chance to use it behind a prop yet, but hopefully we can do that shortly after the New Year. Right now, it's going back in the box (fully charged), getting wrapped, and going under the tree. Phil From: Robin Marks [mailto:robin1@mrmoisture.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:39 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Short Video I used a cool RAM suction mount (new style with twist leaver) and Sony Webbie. With the new, free Windows Movie Maker Live and Google's YouTube it is seamless. I actually filmed this upside down and can invert a whole video with a simple click. I remember when it took most of my resources to rotate a photo. The 1080P Webbie is this one ($129.00): I expect to take better more vibrant videos in better lighting conditions. This was 15 minutes prior to rain (in CA no less!). Robin


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    Time: 02:02:13 PM PST US
    From: "Geoff Combs" <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com>
    Subject: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems
    Phil I used the SD-20 as a backup and it works great. Very easy installation. Not all that complication with 2 Alt. FWIW Geoff Geoff Combs President Aerosport Modeling & Design 8090 Howe Industrial Parkway Canal Winchester, Ohio 43110 614-834-5227p 614-834-5230f www.aerosportmodeling.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems Thanks everyone. As long as I know it's possible, that's all I need at this point. Phil From: Perry, Phil Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: RV10-List: Dual Alternator - Pulley Systems I'm creating some block diagrams and ultimately schematics of my electrical system and I'm planning a Dual ALT/Single BAT system. Is there way to get each ALT running on independent belts? Or is a single belt the only option? Worst case scenario, I'll use the SD-20. Thanks, Phil www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com www.homebuilthelp.com www.howtocrimp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 02:31:21 PM PST US
    From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
    I downloaded Foreflight 3.0 to try out their 30 day free trial and I already know that I will be purchasing this. To have everything in one spot is incredible for doing your preflight. One thing I noticed the other day on the VFR maps was the fact that it switches from a section to a terminal chart when zoomed in enough. With rumors of a 10" screen "iPhone" being announced in January I am excited about programs like Foreflight in the future. http://mashable.com/2009/09/29/apple-tablet-iphone-os/ It is incredible how fast these programs are evolving. It is nice to have Tim and others as our early adopters of all the new technology to let us know which one we should buy. Merry Christmas, Scott Schmidt scottmschmidt@yahoo.com ________________________________ From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Sent: Tue, December 22, 2009 8:15:47 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone True, the weather dots were nice if you like that. I didn't use it because it slowed the map load down too much, so unless that's what you plan to use it for, it wasn't an easy on/off button on the main screen so it wasn't convenient to toggle. I know it has the option to cache charts, but a quick test I did once (I maybe should try it again) a couple weeks ago, showed that it didn't cache it for totally offline use unless I had viewed the chart. i.e. I don't think it auto-predownloaded them. But, either way, considering how foreflight is now, I would disable that option in skycharts anyway...no sense wasting space on 2 apps caching charts. Foreflight at least at one time made their app so that if your iphone timed out, and you re-opened it, it would bring you immediately back to the approach plate too, which is nice. I don't know if you can do that with skycharts. Aeroweather is good too, and i used to use NavMonster web link, which wasn't bad. There is a definite difference in what apps are best when you are talking doing a local flight, or a long x/c flight, and how much on-device planning you want to do. For local flights or short there-and-backs, it's simple to do it basically 100% by iphone. For a route like Wisconsin to Vegas Via Salt Lake City, I haven't really found anything on the iphone that does the job of a full flight planner/EFB. You need fuel prices, approach info, charts, terrain and mountain clearance info, and much more than you can get on the iphone right now. But, once you take off, with the plan made up, the iphone can handle 99% of the tasks for those with the eyes to see it. Some of this depends on if you get in-flight coverage, too. Most areas I fly have no data coverage in the air. And of course, with a full real EFB you have options to connect XM weather, too. If you could get realtime inflight weather on an iphone, that would be pretty sweet. Each tool has it's use, and some will need more than others. It all depends on the needs. Tim Jesse Saint wrote: > <jesse@saintaviation.com> > > One nice thing that SkyCharts does, though, is give you a visual of > what weather is doing at airports on the chart. It paints dots on > the map wherever there is a METAR and colors the dots according to > the status (VFR, MVFR, IFR or LIFR), and you can just tap on the dot > to see the details. That is a really nice visual check while on the > ground without access to a computer. I've suggested that to > Foreflight, so hopefully I will also be able to delete SkyCharts in > the near future. It does, however, cache the approach plates for the > whole Sectional if you select that option in the settings. > > For some it might not be a useable EFB, but for me it works just > fine. I always print a couple of plates for my destination and at > least one alternate, as well as the AOPA kneeboard info sheet, but I > know I have everything on the iPhone, which is always with me. > > Another nice App that I like for a quick review of METARs for my > "favorites" is AeroWeather. It is much faster than Foreflight to > really quickly check the METARs at airports that you check regularly, > but does not go much beyond that. > > Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: > 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 > > On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > >> >> I agree fully. I've used foreflight for nearing a year now I >> think, or maybe 9 months or so. I like it so much that I think >> actually that it's a big reason for a pilot to consider an iphone. >> One of the best things is how much faster it is to bring up weather >> imagery for planning. It's way nicer than trying to click through >> links on websites and resize images for the screen. Yes, all of >> the info they have is available in other apps, but nobody puts it >> together like they do. >> >> This week I downloaded 3.0. For being a "loyal customer" (anyone who had 2.X before), it was $39.99 for this next year. I assume from there on it'll be $70/yr. Yes, there are cheaper ways to do things, but again, few will actually go together as nicely as well written software. Most .pdf plate viewers are very clumsy to use from a menu perspective....this is not. Today I took my first long >> x/c flight using Foreflight 3.0 to file both IFR plan legs, and I >> got to check out the chart functionality in flight. I find that >> it's probably the nicest way to file a flight plan that there >> is....and when you file, you receive a great email full briefing >> that you can then carry with you instead of that 32 page packet of >> paper. It's all there..NOTAMS and all. With 3.0 they added GPS >> integrated IFR low/high charts, and VFR sectionals. I tracked >> myself for a while using both and it was very accurate. When I >> approached some restricted airspace, I could peek at the chart and >> I queried ATC as to the status and all was quiet. The new Download >> manager makes it easy to cache all the approach plates for each >> state/region, and the same for IFR low, and sectionals, and airport >> diagrams. It's not the fastest or perhaps best organized download >> manager in the world, but it's much better than the 2.x versions >> were, and the GPS integrated charts are fantastic. Skycharts isn't >> a bad app either, but with this version of foreflight, I now see >> no reason to use skycharts. Skycharts was not nearly as good at >> dealing with approach plates (I don't think it cached them until >> you actually viewed the plate), and they don't have IFR maps. I >> will probably delete that app now, because this one just blew it >> away. In talking to tech support at foreflight with feature >> requests, I know they spent a lot of their time in perfecting their >> maps to be smooth and they certainly did a good job. >> >> I can't go as far as saying it's an inexpensive EFB, but it comes >> closer than anything else I've seen. I also have WingX, which has >> a terrain equipped GPS, but that app really stinks from a >> menu/useability standpoint compared to Foreflight 3.0....so the >> only real nice thing is the GPS, and that isn't as nice as a >> handheld GPS. Once Foreflight or someone else comes up with a >> great Garmin handheld type in-flight GPS, I think that app will be >> a must-have addition. It's the one thing lacking. That's one of >> the areas where EFB's like Voyager start to pull away from >> something like foreflight. Really, Foreflight on an iphone does >> much of what I'd need for everyday IFR flights...the easier ones >> where I'm going to familiar places. But, I have no problems >> reading a small screen, either. For many pilots (the average pilot >> age is over 50 BTW), the iphone might not be practical to use for >> things like approach plates, or many of the other >> functions....certainly not when you really need that info badly. >> Voyager adds things like a better route planning system, a weight >> and balance planning system, wind integrated route and altitude >> planning, a truely wonderful in-flight GPS, that allows nice >> routing and the normal Bearing/heading/course/trk/speed/ete/eta >> blah blah blah stuff that a good GPS would have, and they integrate >> it with every possible chart you would likely want. And, it's run >> on a slightly larger platform, so it's visible for most any pilot. Considering all the things it does, I think it's also a great deal. >> I just saw one product that had chart subscriptions, I think it was >> just jepp approach plates, and they were calling it a bargain at >> 700/yr for a subscription....Voyager when it was on sale was less >> than that for a lifetime. For me, I like sitting at the PC with >> Voyager when I want to plan a flight, because it will let me plan >> from Wisconsin to Oregon or Nevada, or wherever, and it will keep >> me away from airspace, from terrain, and everything else. And, >> with fuel price integration it really is what you need to do a nice >> plan to an unfamiliar place. For this flight that I did today >> though, I just needed to doublecheck my fuel prices for a fuel stop, but knew the route well, so I didn't use all of voyager's features...I just popped it into the iphone and in seconds I had >> the plan filed. Today's flight was an iphone/Foreflight type >> flight for me. >> >> So there are many ways to skin cats, but those two things are what >> I have found to be the best for flight planning and filing. Both >> are actively developed and improved, which is another reason their >> cost is worth it....I hate buying computer software that could use >> more features but isn't actively developed because the person isn't >> making enough money at it to justify their hard work. >> >> Oh, and a side note.....if you jailbreak an iphone or ipod touch, there are lots of other options that you can have with them. For >> instance, my wife has an ipod touch. We got foreflight 3.0 for her >> too (which is one of my complaints...it used to be free for my 2nd >> ipod, but the new user model they have ties it to the device, so I >> pay twice to have it for 2 devices). But anyway, most people would >> think an ipod touch wouldn't be a good option for them because it >> has no GPS. With a jailbroken ipod touch, I was able to install a >> 3rd party GPS bluetooth stack that connects to the same Holux m1000 >> (and other) bluetooth GPS's like I have. She was able to track >> our flight on a VFR/IFR chart too, with an external GPS. So lots >> of options there. >> >> One thing about doing all of this stuff on an iphone...you do NOT >> want to skimp when you buy...get the 32GB one. A full install of >> Foreflight with all the charts is over 5GB. I have 16GB or more of >> music. I've got a 32GB 3GS, and I'm down to about 5GB free. So >> consider 32GB a minimum for any EFB, and if you're buying an >> iphone/pod, stick to the larger ones too. >> >> I'm pretty pumped about the functionality all these things can give >> for such small cost. I do plan to do a more complete write-up >> comparison with pro's and con's in the near term future. I know >> every time something like this comes up there are dozens of folks >> talking about their favorite, or their cheaper way to do things, >> but each one has an up and a downside, and cheapest isn't always >> what people need. For instance, some things only do approach >> plates, but you really want IFR/VFR charts, too. Skimping on >> necessary info for planning a safe flight can have consequences, >> and it's nice to know what the good and bad of various things are. >> I've tried many from the cheap approach plate CD's, to the CD's with some large charts on them, and various ways of doing EFB's. >> I've learned a lot about what doesn't work so well, which is why >> some of this stuff that does is so exciting. >> >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >> >> >> >> Jesse Saint wrote: >>> For those who have iPhones and were interested in the discussions >>> recently about EFB's, Foreflight just released version 3.0 that >>> is a free App with a subscription-based service. They are now >>> able to cache Approach Plates, VFR Charts and IFR Charts by state >>> for use while flying. The subscription is $70/year or >>> $25/quarter. I personally think it's a great option for an >>> inexpensive EFB (or maybe a backup for those who already have >>> one). It is also a great way to check weather and file a flight >>> plan. I always file through Foreflight personally, and love the >>> quick access to radar and satellite imagery. do not archive Jesse >>> Saint >> >> >> > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:05:49 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Bibb" <rbibb@tomet.net>
    Subject: plasma cutter
    Jake: I usually think of a plasma cutter when wanting to cut steel. The kerf on all but the best models is pretty rough. Not sure how well they do on aluminum. Richard Bibb 972-771-2598 972-835-5979 mobile -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn Walters Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: plasma cutter I wouldn't say 'wrong'. You can cut most anything that's electrically conductive with a plasma cutter. But, you'd be just as well off to use an ax. Linn JHearnsberger wrote: <jakehearnsberger@gmail.com> > > Would there be anything wrong with using a plasma cutter for trimming? I am just starting a RV-10 Empennage. > > Thanks, > > Jake > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278576#278576 > > >


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    Time: 03:33:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Short Video
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    Great image quality considering the pricing. Two years ago HD was $1,000. These definitely don't like shaking so you may want to consider another camera for the birth because there will be A LOT of ShAkINg going on! I like the HDMI output on the JVC. My ideal unit would have a video/audio in to hook up an external camera/audio source. Regardless enjoy the camera and we are looking forward to an on time arrival. Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Short Video I picked up a JVC model GC-FM1 for my wife for Christmas. We're expecting our first baby in a few months and thought this would be a good tool to keep in her purse. It films in High Def 1080p, 720p, VGA, and CVGA. Earlier today, I pulled it out of the box and charged it so we could use it to record our nieces on Christmas day. I think it shows some of the same traits as the Sony Webbie. My guess is that it's the digital image stabilization causing the effects. Here a quick video I shot and uploaded in High Def (1080p). Just by moving the camera from left to right, I'm seeing some strange behaviors too. It has to be the stabilization. You should click on HD to make sure you get the full effect of the image fracturing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcjiah3NFgA Haven't had a chance to use it behind a prop yet, but hopefully we can do that shortly after the New Year. Right now, it's going back in the box (fully charged), getting wrapped, and going under the tree. Phil From: Robin Marks [mailto:robin1@mrmoisture.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:39 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Short Video I used a cool RAM suction mount (new style with twist leaver) and Sony Webbie. With the new, free Windows Movie Maker Live and Google's YouTube it is seamless. I actually filmed this upside down and can invert a whole video with a simple click. I remember when it took most of my resources to rotate a photo. The 1080P Webbie is this one ($129.00): I expect to take better more vibrant videos in better lighting conditions. This was 15 minutes prior to rain (in CA no less!). Robin


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    Time: 04:59:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: plasma cutter
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    I know nothing about these things. But, I do know the aluminum we use is almost always heat treated. You wouldn't want to change that treatment in any load bearing area. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278626#278626


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    Time: 05:40:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Tumbling aluminum
    From: "Strasnuts" <sean@braunandco.com>
    After reading the Plasma cutter question, I am wondering if anyone knows what tumbling the aluminum pieces does to strength. The shop where I am building mine has a tumbler for metals and you can change it for plastics. It works great for deburring. I stuck a few scrap pieces of aluminum in it and let it run for a few hours and it turned out beautiful. I never dared to put actual parts in it being scared of the aluminum integrity. If it was okay to use it, it would be a great time saver. You could put 30 ribs in it and let her go. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278631#278631


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    Time: 06:29:35 PM PST US
    From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever <roxianmike@msn.com>
    Subject: plasma cutter
    I have a little experience with a plasma cutter in a prior life and based u pon the units I have used=2C it would be a bit of over kill unless more mod ern units allow you to dial it down to an extremely fine flow.............. I would expect it to blow away too much aluminum.......I guess you asked fo r opinions and mine would be to use less powerful tools on this soft alumin um as suggested by others that have replied...........good luck and welcome to the "club". > Subject: RV10-List: plasma cutter > From: jakehearnsberger@gmail.com > Date: Tue=2C 22 Dec 2009 08:37:28 -0800 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > com> > > Would there be anything wrong with using a plasma cutter for trimming? I am just starting a RV-10 Empennage. > > Thanks=2C > > Jake > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278576#278576 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 06:56:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Tumbling aluminum
    From: "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
    They make an aluminum oxide abrasive for tumblers too. I'd guess it's okay, but you'd lose the alclad and want to alumaprep and alodine (and/or prime) as soon as you pulled them out. Phil -----Original Message----- From: Strasnuts [mailto:sean@braunandco.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 7:39 PM Subject: RV10-List: Tumbling aluminum After reading the Plasma cutter question, I am wondering if anyone knows what tumbling the aluminum pieces does to strength. The shop where I am building mine has a tumbler for metals and you can change it for plastics. It works great for deburring. I stuck a few scrap pieces of aluminum in it and let it run for a few hours and it turned out beautiful. I never dared to put actual parts in it being scared of the aluminum integrity. If it was okay to use it, it would be a great time saver. You could put 30 ribs in it and let her go. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278631#278631


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    Time: 07:02:36 PM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: plasma cutter
    One of the nice things about plasma cutters ..... the heat doesn't seem to go too far from the kerf. Works better on steel, but leaves a little dross on the bottom edge when cutting aluminum. Easily cleaned up, but making an accurate cut is near impossible. Does make a wonderful cut on stainless though. Linn Bob Turner wrote: > > I know nothing about these things. But, I do know the aluminum we use is almost always heat treated. You wouldn't want to change that treatment in any load bearing area. > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278626#278626 > > >




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